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blissfulyoshi
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blissfulyoshi
Timing check: (I just tried fine tuning the timing a bit since the previous timing was pretty close. Apply what you think feels better)
BPM:150.500 Offset: 6,882
BPM:151.100 Offset:19,630
BPM:196.000 Offset:30,754
BPM:148.500 Offset:53,917
BPM:151.000 Offset:58,906
BPM:196.000 Offset:83,540
BPM:196.000 Offset:154,130

Good luck on ranking this song. Remember to apply this timing to all diffs (the osu! circle pulsates at the BPM you set, so make sure the easiest diff has the extra uninherited timing section) and resnap all the notes.

Edit:
Here is the form you can copy into the .osu file.
6882,398.671096345515,4,1,0,70,1,0
19630,397.350993377483,4,1,0,70,1,0
30754,306.122448979592,4,1,0,70,1,0
53917,404.040404040404,4,1,0,70,1,0
58906,397.350993377483,4,1,0,70,1,0
83540,306.122448979592,4,1,0,70,1,0
154130,306.122448979592,4,1,0,70,1,0
jockeytiyan
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jockeytiyan
I just noticed, why didn't you place the artist as Rise Against the Machines (I'm not sure what it exactly is. lol)?
soulfear
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soulfear
I hope this can be ranked as soon as possible.I love the song&map!
Blatzk
141 posts
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Topic Starter
Blatzk

jockeytiyan wrote:

I just noticed, why didn't you place the artist as Rise Against the Machines (I'm not sure what it exactly is. lol)?
uhh... "Rise Against" and "Rage against the Machine"... you just told me a combination of both ^^
I think they are two different bands or am i wrong?

soulfear wrote:

I hope this can be ranked as soon as possible.I love the song&map!
well... just depends on BATs... if they stop ignoring me it maybe gets ranked someday >.<
Luvdic
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Luvdic
General:

- The aproach circle is weird... It makes me feels dizzy for some reason ahahaha

Easy:

Consider adding a circle here 00:32:590, 00:42:386, 01:25:376, 01:30:274, 01:40:070 - etc, i hope you get what i mean.
00:49:121 (1) - Consider adding one extra repeat so it would end at 00:50:958. If youre going to do it, you will obviously have to move the spinner and shorten it a bit
01:26:907 (3) - Extend it so it would end at 01:27:213
01:36:703 (3) - ^

Normal:

I just think that there are parts that are a bit too confusive... I aint mentioning them cause it doesnt worth it. (btw, i partly blame it due to low distance spacing that makes them all clustered, oh and also these clustered things... they doesnt looks good in my opinion >_>)


Hard:

01:53:846 (4) - This 2x slider is kinda pointless.

Aqua92:

Nothing to say

And remember, they are just suggestions/comments from me,
Starrodkirby86
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[All Difficulties]:
00:59:700 (1) - Maybe have the red timing section start here to get the metronome straight?

[Easy]:
Why is there no pulsing storyboard on Easy? You can always put all the pulses except for the one on the last chorus in the .osb, then just make a new object for the pulse on the last chorus. XD

[Normal]:
01:20:958 (3) - This break seems random. xD

[Hard]:
Wow, that is one cool Speed-up warning.

[Aqua92's Prayer]:
00:41:162 (3) - Haha, lonely whistle. :V

Uhh...This is a bit nazi but, can you crop the hitcircle.png to make it 128x128? Thanks!
Blatzk
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Blatzk
ok... fixed that... thaaaaank you :3

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

[All Difficulties]:
00:59:700 (1) - Maybe have the red timing section start here to get the metronome straight?
well... it just doesn't work in [Hard] because there are notes before 00:59:700 and they need this timing.
FrozenOG
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Joined October 2009
FrozenOG
hey! i made a difficulty, im sorry if if might need a little work, but you know what they say: no map is a perfect map!

here it is (dont nag me about not having it on a forum and blah blah): http://www.sendspace.com/file/8ghakj
Blatzk
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Blatzk
what the... i never asked you to make one o.o
no new difs here... it would take another 2 month with modding... so no, thx >.<
but thx for that star
KRZY
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KRZY
I'm not skilled enough to mod, but I definitely want this song ranked as soon as possible. This is my favorite song by far. If I had any kudoses I would use all of them on this song.

Star!
Kotya
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Kotya
I love this map
star ^^
Blatzk
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Topic Starter
Blatzk
Kubu edited his Insane. It had no hitsounds so i added them by myself.
Should be checked by BAT if it's rankable...
If yes I'll add it again. If not, it should gets separated cause it's so awesome ^^
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Andrea
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Andrea
This difficulty is really fun and challenging but it have a lot of unrankable things, like some hidden sliders and some "WTF" parts with strange spacings...

Try to get other opinions, but IMHO that difficulty is for approval only XD
Mismagius
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Mismagius
kubu diff back <3

irc modded but don't think he changed anything :P
ReimuSS
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ReimuSS
nice map!
niedz
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niedz
o.o
SteRRuM
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SteRRuM
Star
klubek
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klubek
good song, nice map, star~*
taNa
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taNa
cool
taka1235
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taka1235
crazy :(
f0012979
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f0012979
wow nice XD

star :)
Rolled
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Rolled
kubu <3
hvick225
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hvick225
Good crazy map :)
gto461013
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niceXD
Shinde
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Shinde
I love kubu's diff, I'm glad to see it's back.
Androws
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Androws
Nice map & song :)

star!
Gabi
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Gabi
kubus diff is fun ^^
MeRcYyy
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MeRcYyy
;)
Ana_Coppola
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Ana_Coppola
:) star~~~~~
crazy kubu diff~
Starrodkirby86
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Fun ~

Here's my thoughts...OK, I feel really bad about this mod now ;_;. A lot of them are only suggestions. If you think it works much better as it is, then tell me or something. o.o Um, maybe it's best if we were to discuss this in IRC too.

[kubu's Insane]:
00:36:876 (1,2,3,4) - The way (2) and (4) are spaced makes it very uncomfortable and cramped to play. If you look throughout this area the spacing seems to be quite large, so just squeezing it in like that, especially from (4) to the next (1), pretty much feels weird. Maybe the only reason I am complaining is because of this (4) and next (1). O_o
01:11:621 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Not that I had trouble with it, but what do you think of the underspacing here? o.o
01:18:778 (3) - New combo~
01:33:642 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Maybe you can rearrange this as some pretty circular loop shape instead of some hard-to-read overlap.
01:39:381 (1,2) - Hmm...this right here...I don't understand the rhythm behind it. Sure, I can press it in time yeah, but what does it follow? Secondly, it's just awkward that I have to squeeze in there to press (1) and (2) then jump out for the rest of the notes, you know? :S
01:54:152 (1) - Lol, who would anticipate this surprise? xP
02:34:130 (1,2,3,4) - I don't know why, but when they're squeezed in like this, I can't even get the rhythm right O_o.
02:41:476 (1,2,3,4) - Really, REALLY, difficult to read this. I can't see (2) very well, and to make things worse I have to go back to (4) for another near-hidden slider. =p
02:47:446 (4,5) - Eek. Who can tell that's a jump, or even actually make it successfully in this? :x
02:47:752 (6,7,8,1,2,1,2) - And the spacing here is so crowded. >x< It's very difficult to read 02:48:211 (1,2,1,2) - .
02:54:027 (2) - Can you space this a little more upwards?

Er...Sorry if it's a lot. ;_____;

The map is really enjoyable. Maybe I got carried away here. XD

Oh yes, the rankability question. A 1043 combo map for something that's not even three minutes might be a little over-the-top. ._. Seeing this difficulty as Approved would be pretty awesome. owo The score cap is all right by me though, but the fact that there's a lot of notes in such little time concerns me.
Nadina120
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Nadina120
cool map 8-)
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
kubuuuuuu! why you changed it! why!!?? was awesome :<
FrozenOG
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FrozenOG
it would be neat if kabu's insane had that beat pattern of 45:447 from my map on his. i'm just sayin' ;) :roll:
Lybydose
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Note that I only looked at the kubu's insane difficulty.

I can't see why this difficulty wouldn't be rankable now that all the unrankable stuff like hidden sliders and such have been removed. As stated by peppy, Approval is *supposed* to be only for maps that are too long and/or have a really high maximum score. This is neither. It isn't even really THAT difficult either. I suppose it is a lot of notes in 3 minutes, but that kind of comes with the song speed - it is 196 BPM after all :)

It could use a few changes though:

Increasing the stack leniency by 1 tick makes the map much more readable overall. This should really be changed if you want this difficulty ranked. It doesn't really mess up any patterns EXCEPT this one:

01:57:825 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9)

You can correct that by moving the entire stack 1 grid right and down (note that I mean at grid level 1) and it will stack "correctly"

01:11:618 (1,2,3) - this is kind of weird and cramped
01:44:279 (16,1) - mid 1/4 stream jump? at 196 BPM? :( Couldn't you just like make it all part of the same stream? Like this I mean: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14112 All I did was move the yellow 1 so that it was between the 8 and 9 in the stream and then vertical flipped it.
01:59:815 - add a circle here maybe?
02:34:130 (1,2,3,4) - why did you change this? It was so much better as jumps
02:38:415 (1,2,3,4) - this is pretty ridiculous, but I didn't have a problem reading or hitting it
02:46:987 (1,2,3,4) - what the hell?
03:09:640 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - could you make these two mini-streams a bit more curved, rather than a linear L shape like that?

Actually I liked the section from 03:03:517 to 03:10:864 better in the original version.

Usually I don't points out combo mods, but a couple parts of the map are actually more confusing because of the combo placement:

02:50:048 (1,2,3,1) - move the combos around to make these notes all the same combo...
02:50:813 (2,1,2) - ...and then make these all the same combo
02:54:104 (1) - remove this new combo

Also the timing might be slightly off? I didn't check it in great detail
Gens
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Gens
Speed ups feel pretty random in [Aqua92's Prayer]. I'd advise you to remove them...

Also, in the storyboard images, some files contain unnecessary transparency. "quote1-1.png" could use some cutting from up and down, it really doesn't need to be that big.

In [Hard], the section at 02:34:130 is supposed to be 196, like the other difficulties.

Everything else looks... good.
mtmcl
mtmcl
Bubbling a map that will probably continue to be disputed. I'd love to spec some better players trying kubu's insane though. It looks fine to me. With all the talk, I actually expected it to be HARDER. It's a whole lot of fun though.

</balls>
WubWoofWolf
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:o
RemmyX25
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All difficulties:
Turn the stack leniency up. It looks terrible as it is right now.



kubu's Insane:
inb4 i start a shitwar.

First off: http://puu.sh/22Y <---- absolutely not. this needs to be raised to a more appropriate level

02:15:121 (2) - Is this really necessary? It's nothing but noise. Having one or two hit circles instead would be better than inflating the combo.
02:46:987 (1,2,3,4) - ^
03:02:293 (1,1) - ^
03:10:864 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Not spaced correctly, use new colors if you want to keep the jumps
Natteke
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Natteke
First play. Some jumps are quite challenging, but there are maps a lot harder than this, so I think it's ok o.o

SPOILER
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Kubu
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Kubu

RemmyX25 wrote:

03:10:864 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Not spaced correctly, use new colors if you want to keep the jumps
The most of ztrot formations are in the same combo colours, so why ^ need new combo colours? =3
CrazyBanana
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CrazyBanana
star
bmin11
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bmin11
have a star just in case
I love those Insane Jumps <3 (last Streams are still a killer though)
ElecoR
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ElecoR
good :lol:
Marpfie
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Marpfie
Stern für dich :P
Shinxyn
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Shinxyn
O.o a popped bubble eh.. I'll keep try to keep this simple then..
Don't like how the music cuts off at the end, but... okay..... would prefer if it was better (or do I redownload)
We can fix your tags, so thats fine.. (guest diff in all tags..)
delete the thumbs file >_<

Normal-
00:50:958 (1) - spinner's end isn't snapped in right place~

kubu's.. whoa o_O ending after last break is quite a difficulty spike
00:50:958 - why is this BPM so odd? the end of the slider isn't properly snapped (not much of a noticeable difference... and the next offset is on a different spot, so... okay...?)
01:54:152 (1) - hm... I would say this is totally not necessary... 1/8 and 2x...
I agree with remmy with 02:15:121 (2) (it sounds more like 1/4, 1/8 does seem too fast)
That ztrot formation is a fine...
and.. maybe new combo 02:38:721 (3)... (though I don't mind)
As for the patterns, I like~ too bad the BPM's a bit too fast for me

Most of the formations could look better in all the diffs, but I won't nitpick on a former bubble.

Hmm? should I leave this to Remmy to recheck? or no...? hm...
RemmyX25
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Shinxyn wrote:

Hmm? should I leave this to Remmy to recheck? or no...? hm...
Yes.

I've been keeping tabs on this, waiting for the mapper to let me know when hes done.
noneed_old
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noneed_old
Rise Against ftw!! :D
star~
Blatzk
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Blatzk
Well... i don't know if it was real... but kubu asked me to delete his dif again o.o... but i refused to do so and I just changed his dif myself cause i don't know if he will do it >.< If yes, I'll replace the one edited by me.
I hope it was just a joke or a bad day of kubu >.<
Epic... kubu really now wants me to delete his dif!!!!11 Don't cry at me but at kubu's fail! :evil:

Talking about kubu's Insane...:
  • <kuburaczek> so delete it now
    <kuburaczek> just do it
    <kuburaczek> when u deleted it, your map can be ranked very fast
    <bLaTzK> but then everyone will cry at me
    <bLaTzK> so i just can get it ranked with your dif...
    <kuburaczek> i will cry if it will be ranked
Sry about that... but kubu is just crying at those mods cause he doesn't want to change that much to keep it this epic...
If i go on fixing it i'll surely destroy the epic parts that are loved by everyone >.<

> I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'LL DO NOW...! < - *DELETED*
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deadbeat
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deadbeat
why not just keep the epic parts the same...
Blatzk
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Blatzk

deadbeat wrote:

why not just keep the epic parts the same...
If BAT-sensei says that it's too bad then i need to fix that >.<

So, at last... i cant hold up his dif against his own will... So going to delete it again...
"Don't hold me up, now!..." - but you did, kubu!...

Download: Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee (bLaTzK) [kubu's Insane].osu
Blatzk
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Blatzk

RemmyX25 wrote:

Shinxyn wrote:

Hmm? should I leave this to Remmy to recheck? or no...? hm...
Yes.

I've been keeping tabs on this, waiting for the mapper to let me know when hes done.
Well... I'm done... and done with kubu's Insane!! >.<

EDIT: LOL - failed at sending private message xD
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Blatzk
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Blatzk

Shinxyn wrote:

  1. Don't like how the music cuts off at the end, but... okay..... would prefer if it was better (or do I redownload)
  2. We can fix your tags, so thats fine.. (guest diff in all tags..)
  3. delete the thumbs file >_<
  1. Sry... changing the end or mp3 will fuck up timings again...
  2. Now that kubu's Insane is gone, it's ok again...
  3. Lol, didn't see that file (Hidden System Files)
minyeob
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minyeob
kubu diff is fucking awesome lol

Anyway detailed modding coming soon
I don't know why he deleted his diff ;_;
noneed_old
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noneed_old
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT O___O
kubu's diff is so damn perfect for the song.. is he nuts?why is he throwing such a kickass difficulty away? o.o''
damn,damn,damn...
RemmyX25
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This is looking a lot better. It's a shame kubu's difficulty couldnt be fixed.

Anywho, bubbled.
Blatzk
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Blatzk
Hehe... xD
  • <RemmyX25> you sure need some balls to map a rock song like this

RemmyX25 wrote:

It's a shame kubu's difficulty couldnt be fixed.
well i think it could be fixed... but anyway... he waned it like that >.<
minyeob
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Ranked~
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
Holy shit ... kubu's difficulty was awesome, no errors i check it some times, problem is : you are too low for play it ..
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Selee
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Selee
Nice map~

I think it's better to put a video in it :D

The MV is pretty nice
Cuddlebun
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Cuddlebun
fuck yeah Rise Against
Natteke
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Natteke

Todesengal wrote:

fuck yeah Rise Against
QFT


also, kubu diff was cool, you bastards :<
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
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KRZY
ffffff Cookiezi fced Kubu's diff under 5 tries and I in 30 tries, should have been ranked...

anyways, so glad my all-time favorite song has been ranked.
Card N'FoRcE
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I have a request.

Is it possible to have Kubu's diff posted here as an Unranked diff so that everyone can still enjoy it?

I'd really like to see it.
Gabi
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Gabi
i'm not sure if Kubu changed anything in his diff from when i tried it, but here we go, someone might have a never version i'm not sure

Download: Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee (bLaTzK) [kubu's Insane].osu
Lybydose
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Lybydose
Here's the earliest version. No changes, no hitsounds, etc etc

Download: Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee (bLaTzK) [kubu's Insane].osu
Natteke
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Natteke
@ kubu, submit this diff yourself and make it approved
I still don't get why it's unrankable though. Is it because Remmy sucks at playing osu or what?
Matma Rex
586 posts
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Matma Rex

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

I have a request.

Is it possible to have Kubu's diff posted here as an Unranked diff so that everyone can still enjoy it?

I'd really like to see it.
It's here: viewtopic.php?p=473701#p473701
Larto
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Larto

DJ KRZY wrote:

ffffff Cookiezi fced Kubu's diff under 5 tries and I in 30 tries, should have been ranked...
Not trying to cause any drama, but just because you can Full Combo something, it doesn't mean it's rankable, and it doesn't mean that it's good either.
I'm not saying kubu's diff was bad, in fact, I haven't even seen the latest version of the diff (however I think you can rely on Remmy's judgement).
I just wanted to have this clarified =]
Blatzk
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Blatzk
DEAR GOD...
don't force kubu to make something with his dif >.<
HE ASKED ME TO DELETE IT!
can't you just understand and accept that?! Damn...
Seems like you all think I'm so badass and just deleted his dif myself... Well.. If that's so... then think about this:
Why did i added it a second time, huh?...
I deleted it both times cause kubu told me to... Nothing less... It's his difficulty after all... so he decides what happens with it!
Live with it... if you can't just make a dif like that yourself!

...or go and beg to kubu until he gets pissed of your requests - lol
eee
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eee
awesome song, gratz on the rank bLaTzK, good job with keeping it in pending!
I haven't played kubu's though :(
Blatzk
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Topic Starter
Blatzk

eee wrote:

I haven't played kubu's though :(
Well... dl it, add it to "Songs/11090..." folder, update songs and play it unranked if you want to... i posted last edit in this topic... (like Matma Rex also mentioned):
viewtopic.php?p=473701#p473701

Others seem to post other versions too... so just read and you can find it xD

EDIT: Also posted the link to the dif on mainpage so no one needs to search all the posts ^^
Lunah_old
Lunah_old

Larto wrote:

DJ KRZY wrote:

ffffff Cookiezi fced Kubu's diff under 5 tries and I in 30 tries, should have been ranked...
Not trying to cause any drama, but just because you can Full Combo something, it doesn't mean it's rankable, and it doesn't mean that it's good either.
srsly larto ._.'' ... lol, it was rankable, i fc'ed too and so many players fc'ed too, that mean it was possible, so what is the problem? i checked all jumps, spacing position, timings, etc and i not found nothing to unrankable , score is 1400k so it is okay .. i really don't understand

@bLaTzK : I think there is a reason why he asked to delete it, he loves this map, i know .. he don't asked to delete it without a reason, and i'm almost sure that is for NAZI-MODS, i think if i go to your own map and i impose you to make many changes, you will not be happy

EDIT : and i think your signature is stupid
Lesjuh
Elite Mapper
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Lesjuh
Seriously guys whats your problem? The only difference is that kubu's diff doesnt have a leaderboard. You can still play it. Also kubu himself didnt want it to get ranked. Stop whining and if you really want that leaderboard you should get kubu to upload his map and get it approved.
Cuddlebun
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Cuddlebun

Larto wrote:

Not trying to cause any drama, but just because you can Full Combo something, it doesn't mean it's rankable, and it doesn't mean that it's good either.

LoweH wrote:

srsly larto ._.'' ... lol, it was rankable, i fc'ed too and so many players fc'ed too, that mean it was possible, so what is the problem? i checked all jumps, spacing position, timings, etc and i not found nothing to unrankable , score is 1400k so it is okay .. i really don't understand
reading is fun
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
read next man/girl ^^;, btw stop here

i can only say : that is wrong
Cuddlebun
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Cuddlebun
how dare you say I'm wrong, reading is fun and you can't deny that

it's fucking rad
Andrea
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Andrea
Heart fixed.
e v r n
e v r n
｡+ﾟ.。+。(´ω｀*)♪♪Nice MAP(*○゜∀。)/☆*。*.・+★
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