1/4 bpm slowdowns (actually it's quite obvious if you check the sliders in those time sections)ztrot wrote:
Happy30's:
Why does happy's have red timing sections shouldn't all the maps timing be the same?
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hmm.
i agree with ztrot .. there're 5 Insane ..
i agree with ztrot .. there're 5 Insane ..
Easy:
mind as Judgment (TV Size)s WHAT F YOU COPY PASTE
00:21:119 (1) - spinner is kind of hard for easy. It's short and has notes immediately after it. You could delete that slider right after it and have it end at 00:22:786 or something
01:23:619 (1,2) - AHHHHHHHHH that's going to be really confusing for beginners
02:02:119 (4,1) - this transition from 1/1 to 1/2 feels really awkward
02:06:786 (4,1) - ^
02:12:120 (4,1) - ^
Normal:
00:21:452 (1) - kind of short, but it's fine
00:39:452 (7,8,9,10) - could you move this stuff up a bit so the jump isn't so large? I don't mean like follow distance snap 100%, but maybe move it up so that the 7 is right under the previous slider's repeat. Also move those next few purple notes up a bit as well
01:59:119 - starting from here, you seem to follow a weird rhythm or something idk. Seems kind of difficult for normal. The next three suggestions make this seem less wtfff
02:02:619 (7) - remove one repeat and put a note at 02:03:786 and 02:03:952. Remove the note at 02:04:119. Possibly use two claps on those added notes.
02:05:286 (3) - extend by 1/2
02:07:952 (7) - remove one repeat and put a note at 02:09:119 and 02:09:286. Remove the note at 02:09:452. Maybe clap clap if you want.
Sooooo many insanes. This should have an actual "Hard" difficulty if you ask me. taka's difficulty is far above what would be considered merely "hard". Mainly because of the streams and the patterns like 00:35:286 (4,5,6)
The map itself is fine though.
happy30:
some of the red offsets are throwing the timing off by like 1-2ms at a time. This is adding up and causing some of the later notes to be ~9ms off
00:34:784 - put at 34,786
00:43:783 - 43,786
00:46:948 - 46,952
00:54:614 - 54,619
00:56:114 - 56,119
01:38:780 - 98,786
01:40:113 - 100,119
01:50:779 - 110,786
01:52:112 - 112,119
02:46:611 - 166,619
02:47:944 - 167,952
02:56:944 - 176,952
02:58:777 - 178,786
and then resnap the kiai sections to the new timing (and notes obviously)
ignore:
seems fine
Insane:
I can't tell what the hell is going on but I'm still hitting the notes correctly wtfff
The very beginning (up to the first spinner) is waaaay harder than the rest of the map for no real reason. Maybe tone it down a little bit.
Why is kiai different here from Easy and Normal? Why doesn't it start at 01:53:452. I think it would make more sense to change it to be the same as the others.
ALSO SOGA OR YAYA OR WHOEVER, SEND ME THAT SKIN.
mind as Judgment (TV Size)s WHAT F YOU COPY PASTE
00:21:119 (1) - spinner is kind of hard for easy. It's short and has notes immediately after it. You could delete that slider right after it and have it end at 00:22:786 or something
01:23:619 (1,2) - AHHHHHHHHH that's going to be really confusing for beginners
02:02:119 (4,1) - this transition from 1/1 to 1/2 feels really awkward
02:06:786 (4,1) - ^
02:12:120 (4,1) - ^
Normal:
00:21:452 (1) - kind of short, but it's fine
00:39:452 (7,8,9,10) - could you move this stuff up a bit so the jump isn't so large? I don't mean like follow distance snap 100%, but maybe move it up so that the 7 is right under the previous slider's repeat. Also move those next few purple notes up a bit as well
01:59:119 - starting from here, you seem to follow a weird rhythm or something idk. Seems kind of difficult for normal. The next three suggestions make this seem less wtfff
02:02:619 (7) - remove one repeat and put a note at 02:03:786 and 02:03:952. Remove the note at 02:04:119. Possibly use two claps on those added notes.
02:05:286 (3) - extend by 1/2
02:07:952 (7) - remove one repeat and put a note at 02:09:119 and 02:09:286. Remove the note at 02:09:452. Maybe clap clap if you want.
Sooooo many insanes. This should have an actual "Hard" difficulty if you ask me. taka's difficulty is far above what would be considered merely "hard". Mainly because of the streams and the patterns like 00:35:286 (4,5,6)
The map itself is fine though.
happy30:
some of the red offsets are throwing the timing off by like 1-2ms at a time. This is adding up and causing some of the later notes to be ~9ms off
00:34:784 - put at 34,786
00:43:783 - 43,786
00:46:948 - 46,952
00:54:614 - 54,619
00:56:114 - 56,119
01:38:780 - 98,786
01:40:113 - 100,119
01:50:779 - 110,786
01:52:112 - 112,119
02:46:611 - 166,619
02:47:944 - 167,952
02:56:944 - 176,952
02:58:777 - 178,786
and then resnap the kiai sections to the new timing (and notes obviously)
ignore:
seems fine
Insane:
I can't tell what the hell is going on but I'm still hitting the notes correctly wtfff
The very beginning (up to the first spinner) is waaaay harder than the rest of the map for no real reason. Maybe tone it down a little bit.
Why is kiai different here from Easy and Normal? Why doesn't it start at 01:53:452. I think it would make more sense to change it to be the same as the others.
ALSO SOGA OR YAYA OR WHOEVER, SEND ME THAT SKIN.
Topic Starter
Changed everything besides the part for insane. I think I'm going to leave it like that...Lybydose wrote:
Easy:
mind as Judgment (TV Size)s WHAT F YOU COPY PASTE
00:21:119 (1) - spinner is kind of hard for easy. It's short and has notes immediately after it. You could delete that slider right after it and have it end at 00:22:786 or something
01:23:619 (1,2) - AHHHHHHHHH that's going to be really confusing for beginners
02:02:119 (4,1) - this transition from 1/1 to 1/2 feels really awkward
02:06:786 (4,1) - ^
02:12:120 (4,1) - ^
Normal:
00:21:452 (1) - kind of short, but it's fine
00:39:452 (7,8,9,10) - could you move this stuff up a bit so the jump isn't so large? I don't mean like follow distance snap 100%, but maybe move it up so that the 7 is right under the previous slider's repeat. Also move those next few purple notes up a bit as well
01:59:119 - starting from here, you seem to follow a weird rhythm or something idk. Seems kind of difficult for normal. The next three suggestions make this seem less wtfff
02:02:619 (7) - remove one repeat and put a note at 02:03:786 and 02:03:952. Remove the note at 02:04:119. Possibly use two claps on those added notes.
02:05:286 (3) - extend by 1/2
02:07:952 (7) - remove one repeat and put a note at 02:09:119 and 02:09:286. Remove the note at 02:09:452. Maybe clap clap if you want.
Sooooo many insanes. This should have an actual "Hard" difficulty if you ask me. taka's difficulty is far above what would be considered merely "hard". Mainly because of the streams and the patterns like 00:35:286 (4,5,6)
The map itself is fine though.
happy30:
some of the red offsets are throwing the timing off by like 1-2ms at a time. This is adding up and causing some of the later notes to be ~9ms off
00:34:784 - put at 34,786
00:43:783 - 43,786
00:46:948 - 46,952
00:54:614 - 54,619
00:56:114 - 56,119
01:38:780 - 98,786
01:40:113 - 100,119
01:50:779 - 110,786
01:52:112 - 112,119
02:46:611 - 166,619
02:47:944 - 167,952
02:56:944 - 176,952
02:58:777 - 178,786
and then resnap the kiai sections to the new timing (and notes obviously)
ignore:
seems fine
Insane:
I can't tell what the hell is going on but I'm still hitting the notes correctly wtfff
The very beginning (up to the first spinner) is waaaay harder than the rest of the map for no real reason. Maybe tone it down a little bit.
Why is kiai different here from Easy and Normal? Why doesn't it start at 01:53:452. I think it would make more sense to change it to be the same as the others.
ALSO SOGA OR YAYA OR WHOEVER, SEND ME THAT SKIN.
[Easy]
01:57:119 (7) - I Really don't like the timing of this slider, specially the begining of it.
[Normal]
00:15:619 (5,6,7) - Spacing problem here.
00:35:786 (2) - on WHAT is this based on? it sounds pretty odd imo
From 00:36:952 to 00:54:119 : There are a lot of repeating sliders with their repeating circle which sounds relly late. I know this is to get on right time after, but it sounds really weird.
01:55:452 (4,5,6,7) - I see spacing problem~
[Taka]
00:21:452 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I do not approve.
01:05:119 (3,1) - align please.
01:06:786 (1,7) - symetry
01:31:452 (9,10,11) - this shouldn't be here. I don't know if you see what I mean, but this "pattern" should be 1beat earlier
01:42:952 (2,2,2) - these notes are completely hidden. Do not like.
01:48:119 (1,2,1,2) - Else make them the same, or make them distinctively different, imo.
01:50:702 (12) - useless note imo
[happy30]
00:33:452 (1,1) - the end of the slider and this note are on the same time.
[ignore]
00:52:119 (1,2,3) - These overlaps are... humm.. i don't know how to say... Well, I don't like.
this map is really chaotic.
[Insane]
This one is really Hard to read. Jumps everywere, hidden notes by sliders (exemple 00:49:286 (1,3) ) etc etc.). I know this is supposed to be an Insane but.. nvm.
For this kind of difficulty, it's better to ask experienced players to know their opinion.
There. I finally finished modding this.
01:57:119 (7) - I Really don't like the timing of this slider, specially the begining of it.
[Normal]
00:15:619 (5,6,7) - Spacing problem here.
00:35:786 (2) - on WHAT is this based on? it sounds pretty odd imo
From 00:36:952 to 00:54:119 : There are a lot of repeating sliders with their repeating circle which sounds relly late. I know this is to get on right time after, but it sounds really weird.
01:55:452 (4,5,6,7) - I see spacing problem~
[Taka]
00:21:452 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I do not approve.
01:05:119 (3,1) - align please.
01:06:786 (1,7) - symetry
01:31:452 (9,10,11) - this shouldn't be here. I don't know if you see what I mean, but this "pattern" should be 1beat earlier
01:42:952 (2,2,2) - these notes are completely hidden. Do not like.
01:48:119 (1,2,1,2) - Else make them the same, or make them distinctively different, imo.
01:50:702 (12) - useless note imo
[happy30]
00:33:452 (1,1) - the end of the slider and this note are on the same time.
[ignore]
00:52:119 (1,2,3) - These overlaps are... humm.. i don't know how to say... Well, I don't like.
this map is really chaotic.
[Insane]
This one is really Hard to read. Jumps everywere, hidden notes by sliders (exemple 00:49:286 (1,3) ) etc etc.). I know this is supposed to be an Insane but.. nvm.
For this kind of difficulty, it's better to ask experienced players to know their opinion.
There. I finally finished modding this.
Easy:
01:57:285 (7) - suggest moving it forward 1/2 (and fix spacing after of course)
01:24:452 (1,2,3) - this is better, but it would probably be preferable that the notes are right under the slider like that. Try just making the slider point in a different direction, like down and left in a diagonal line
Normal:
00:15:286 - add circle?
happy30:
One of the timing sections is still verrrry slightly off. The third section needs +2, setting it at 34,786. Also this section isn't snapped either, so resnap it after doing that.
Insane:
BEST HARDEST HIDDEN MAP EVER
ok one complaint: the combo numbering system at one part makes it more confusing than it needs to be:
02:30:786 - put new combo on this note instead
02:32:119 - this note new combo
02:33:452 - and then a new combo here
remove new combo from any of the notes in those time periods except those 3 notes
another thing:
starting from 02:22:952, it would be much more readable if you made the placement such that the patterns change on every large white tick. What is mean is how you've got it here: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5886 (I may have changed the combos around, my point is that at the (1) the pattern changes) Ideally you would want this trend to continue for this entire section, unlike what you have here: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5887 and then set up your combo numbering such that the new combo is on the large white tick AND coincides with the pattern switch.
01:57:285 (7) - suggest moving it forward 1/2 (and fix spacing after of course)
01:24:452 (1,2,3) - this is better, but it would probably be preferable that the notes are right under the slider like that. Try just making the slider point in a different direction, like down and left in a diagonal line
Normal:
00:15:286 - add circle?
happy30:
One of the timing sections is still verrrry slightly off. The third section needs +2, setting it at 34,786. Also this section isn't snapped either, so resnap it after doing that.
Insane:
ok one complaint: the combo numbering system at one part makes it more confusing than it needs to be:
02:30:786 - put new combo on this note instead
02:32:119 - this note new combo
02:33:452 - and then a new combo here
remove new combo from any of the notes in those time periods except those 3 notes
another thing:
starting from 02:22:952, it would be much more readable if you made the placement such that the patterns change on every large white tick. What is mean is how you've got it here: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5886 (I may have changed the combos around, my point is that at the (1) the pattern changes) Ideally you would want this trend to continue for this entire section, unlike what you have here: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5887 and then set up your combo numbering such that the new combo is on the large white tick AND coincides with the pattern switch.
offset -7ms ??
also insane is really insane XD
also insane is really insane XD
happy30's difficulty has some unsnapped notes. Do NOT use "resnap all" though. Instead, set your beat snap divisor to 1/8 and manually snap these notes:
00:33:452 (1) -
00:46:612 (4) -
00:46:785 (5) -
00:54:611 (1) -
02:46:612 (1) -
a few other things got messed up with the offset change as well:
00:44:112 (1) - I believe this is supposed to start at 00:43:945 instead (move entire thing back 1/8)
00:45:445 (1) - move this back 1/8
00:46:112 (3) - back 1/8
01:50:779 (1) - move this back to the proper place so that it's a really slow slider
insane:
02:36:112 (1) - wasn't this a 1/2 speed slider before? it isn't now
00:33:452 (1) -
00:46:612 (4) -
00:46:785 (5) -
00:54:611 (1) -
02:46:612 (1) -
a few other things got messed up with the offset change as well:
00:44:112 (1) - I believe this is supposed to start at 00:43:945 instead (move entire thing back 1/8)
00:45:445 (1) - move this back 1/8
00:46:112 (3) - back 1/8
01:50:779 (1) - move this back to the proper place so that it's a really slow slider
insane:
02:36:112 (1) - wasn't this a 1/2 speed slider before? it isn't now
fumoffu pubble (ﾉﾟωﾟ)ﾉ
RAGGGE
Got ranked.
Difficulty spread is terrible.
Disappointed.
Disappointed.
yay, ranked already :3
now we don't have to split the mapset to 2 different mapsets, to have the difficulties spread better.
now we don't have to split the mapset to 2 different mapsets, to have the difficulties spread better.
So are 99% of the maps on osu!, gonna go post this on them too? I'll link just a few them for you!Ephemeral wrote:
Difficulty spread is terrible.
Disappointed.
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5720
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12035
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9848
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13737
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10889
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13694
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12838
Look, one of those are even a BAT!
Sure.yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:
So are 99% of the maps on osu!, gonna go post this on them too?Ephemeral wrote:
Difficulty spread is terrible.
Disappointed.
Might as well do what I can to make sure this map doesn't end up as another statistic, eh?
Well, linked some of them for you ^^Ephemeral wrote:
Sure.yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:
So are 99% of the maps on osu!, gonna go post this on them too?
Might as well do what I can to make sure this map doesn't end up as another statistic, eh?
now we don't have to split the mapset to 2 different mapsets, to have the difficulties spread better.yep, glad this got ranked
im going to have to agree with yeahx3
EDIT1: i also have to agree with eph and WHY DOES A MAP NEED 5 INSANES
EDIT1: i also have to agree with eph and WHY DOES A MAP NEED 5 INSANES
I'm not saying a map needs 5 insanes, I never thought this would be ranked TBH go look back at the 1st (or 2nd?) page. My point is this is something that needs to be addressed more strictly, BUT TO EVERY MAP. Specially the < 3.0 star part as it says it is NECESSARY in the guidelines. I in no way support over 5 Insanes.ouranhshc wrote:
im going to have to agree with yeahx3
EDIT1: i also have to agree with eph and WHY DOES A MAP NEED 5 INSANES
You're right.
It's not getting ranked.
Not in this state.
Unranked due to absurd difficulty spread.
Split the guest insanes off into another mapset and run it for approval.
It's not getting ranked.
Not in this state.
Unranked due to absurd difficulty spread.
Split the guest insanes off into another mapset and run it for approval.
tbh...I only see 3-4 insane's ;~;
Four insane difficulties is still completely unacceptable.
Like I said, split or remove off the other three guest difficulties or whatever into another mapset so this one has a more acceptable spread. If you want those other insanes ranked, gun the new mapset for approval.
Like I said, split or remove off the other three guest difficulties or whatever into another mapset so this one has a more acceptable spread. If you want those other insanes ranked, gun the new mapset for approval.
I will make an easy for the new mapset.... Really so pathetic guys...
do you think what are doing is a little extreme.
Edit: i am also willing to make a normal diff if this gets split up
Edit: i am also willing to make a normal diff if this gets split up
What exactly is the difference between N/H/I and N/H/I/I/I?
Instead of being able to choose between Normal, Hard, or Insane to play, you'll be able to choose between Normal, Hard, or...Insane.
Except in this case many of the "insane" maps were easier than the others, so this would just make the difficulty spread worse.
Instead of being able to choose between Normal, Hard, or Insane to play, you'll be able to choose between Normal, Hard, or...Insane.
Except in this case many of the "insane" maps were easier than the others, so this would just make the difficulty spread worse.
Go unrank these too then.
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12756
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13676
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11894
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13305
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12838
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13628
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13737
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9848
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12998
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12735
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10006
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11423
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11443
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10233
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11056
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11947
All these maps have 4 or more (I) difficulties and are from the year 2010 (i didn't check for taiko diffs, but hey, i'm human too).
So, there really was a need to do this?
._.
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12756
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13676
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11894
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13305
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12838
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13628
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/13737
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9848
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12998
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12735
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10006
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11423
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11443
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10233
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11056
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/11947
All these maps have 4 or more (I) difficulties and are from the year 2010 (i didn't check for taiko diffs, but hey, i'm human too).
So, there really was a need to do this?
._.
Lunah_old
FACEPALM*Ephemeral wrote:
Four insane difficulties is still completely unacceptable.
Like I said, split or remove off the other three guest difficulties or whatever into another mapset so this one has a more acceptable spread. If you want those other insanes ranked, gun the new mapset for approval.
Oh god, if you want apply the new rule go unrank all songs in osu with 3-4-5-6 insane D: gogo ...
THIS MAP (ALL DIFF) IS AWESOME .. speechless .
Since when are rules applied retrospectively?
I'm not going to repeat myself again. BAT can only influence maps within a week of them being ranked.
I'm not going to repeat myself again. BAT can only influence maps within a week of them being ranked.
Lunah_old
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=439Ephemeral wrote:
rules.
READ THIS: All guidelines are exactly that: GUIDELINES. They are NOT rules and may be broken in special cases. If you are wanting to break a guideline, ask yourself only this: Does what I'm doing make sense? Is it more fun to play like this compared to if i had to stick to the guidelines? If you answer yes to both these questions then it is probably OK.
A reminder.
Lunah_old
Yeah i mean this.Card N'FoRcE wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=439Ephemeral wrote:
rules.READ THIS: All guidelines are exactly that: GUIDELINES. They are NOT rules and may be broken in special cases. If you are wanting to break a guideline, ask yourself only this: Does what I'm doing make sense? Is it more fun to play like this compared to if i had to stick to the guidelines? If you answer yes to both these questions then it is probably OK.
A reminder.
Wutthe.... I see no scores.
looks like someone was late to the party
The easiest diff is not easy enough imo :/
DJPop wrote:
The easiest diff is not easy enough imo :/
Topic Starter
easy being not easy enough isnt the "problem". the "problem" is that there are too many insanes etc etc etc. read older posts. too lazy to go over it.Zekira wrote:
DJPop wrote:
The easiest diff is not easy enough imo :/
Might as well address this now that we're here again, right?simplistiC wrote:
easy being not easy enough isnt the "problem". the "problem" is that there are too many insanes etc etc etc. read older posts. too lazy to go over it.
If you had listened before when I pointed this out then none of this would have happened.
I'm completely speechless now... ok.
EDIT: Orz I have ask Dangaard and I understand now.. T_T
cough, so wut is the plan for this map?
.......Reranked. End of discussion. Locked thread.