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Heterozygous_old
He dropped, and rejoined. That's why it's seems weird
Hattori Heiji
where is schedule of the tournament ?
plaatinum
Oinari-sama

Hattori Heiji wrote:

where is schedule of the tournament ?
All in the Wiki
Vuelo Eluko
Lol @ pizzicato with the penis and "FUCK" smoke drawings
Kamikaze
Pizzicato was mad
ceschierpadua
Rip PH.. and Lol at the rage dick by Pizzicato
Pizzicato
this isnt good for my heart

ggwp Argentina it was fun

HASDJF BSDGFSD FO SDFSDGFOSDHFGHWPE3T
Vuelo Eluko
so does this mean you can see eachothers scores while playing in the tournament server like its multiplayer team vs?
Kuneho

Pizzicato wrote:

this isnt good for my heart

ggwp Argentina it was fun

HASDJF BSDGFSD FO SDFSDGFOSDHFGHWPE3T
You did your best hun :D I love you <3
Pizzicato

Riince wrote:

so does this mean you can see eachothers scores while playing in the tournament server like its multiplayer team vs?
it's multiplayer team vs
Luna

Riince wrote:

so does this mean you can see eachothers scores while playing in the tournament server like its multiplayer team vs?
Yes, it is MP team VS.
It uses the same client and everything, just connects to a different server, so everything is the same as in regular multiplayer.
Source: Played in the taiko world cup

/E: ninja'd
Midget

B1rd wrote:

Lithuania took 2 matches from Taiwan, what?
Now I'm really interested in seeing how the vs. Norway and vs. Sweden games will turn out. STREAM AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE GAMES PLEASE ;_;.
Gumpy

Midgetas wrote:

Norway and Sweden
The one I want to see.
And the HK gamed cuz mutuals.
Aki Like Snow
Where can i find the latest result? The Statistic page just shows 3 matches.
Nanami Pyon

Aki Like Snow wrote:

Where can i find the latest result? The Statistic page just shows 3 matches.
I found this website very useful, you can find links to the matches and it records each team's score.

http://owc.nicarim.pw/results/view/3
CodeS
Can we get quality options in the stream?

a lot of people are watching this from places with low internet speed, it's impossible to watch the stream like this.
Vuelo Eluko
Lapis-
God save the queen. Youre next US.
Kamikaze
Do przodu Polska!
Do boju Polska!
Gumpy

CodeS wrote:

Can we get quality options in the stream?

a lot of people are watching this from places with low internet speed, it's impossible to watch the stream like this.
They need Twitch partner to do so.
Kamikaze
I swear it was available this morning, I watched on Medium on my tablet cuz Twitch app sucks
silmarilen
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10330997
good job netherlands 4-2 canada
sellyme

CodeS wrote:

Can we get quality options in the stream?

a lot of people are watching this from places with low internet speed, it's impossible to watch the stream like this.
There were definitely quality options this morning, I'm not sure where they went.
astelios
Link to the matches results pls

This is not working
http://owc.nicarim.pw/results/view/3

Pls.
We had it last year.
Pls my inet sucks >3< i cant watch the stream at this time of the day >3<
Darksonic
Argentina 3-4 Austria

https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10332923

Good job Austria! :)
AmaiHachimitsu
Ok, few things after the first match day.


Although I know it concerns only color x ztrot duo, I'm saying this to all the commentators

We all are aware how important a player WWW is, but I can definitely see how he is sometimes depicted as god without a good reason.

- Freemod Pick, WWW hasn't played the maps so he sticks with nomod while me and farto and SterruM pick HardRock. Who gets the standing ovation? "Great score by WWW with only 1x 100s and good job farto blah blah for getting a Full Combo"

- DT pick, we arrive at the first break (about half of the map). Farto and WWW still got SS. What's the comment? "OH MY GOD WWW still with SS" Farto apparently was invisible.

Well, it's not that we demand more praise, it's simply that the comments like the ones above imply that we're fucking carried by the mighty WWW each map and it makes the rest of the team look unneeded, extra, dummies etc.



In other news

I don't know what causes it, but stream quality reaches bottom. Commentators' voice being robotic, traditional fake combo drops (client's fault?). I will oversee too strict rules for twitch.


Next is:

I already said it earlier, it's 7 days before the next round, please mappool


and now:

As you can see, not many upsets took place, but only today many of them were very close to happen. This just confirms our worries about the mappool. Germany and Austria clinched their wins in tiebreaker.

And last:

Seems like 5000 dollars isn't enough as to get a stable and secure server. Players are getting kicked, their osu! crashes and generally bancho is like a ticking bomb.

Actually one more:

Statistics are updated at the speed of slowpoke.

Peace
Astar

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

Statistics are updated at the speed of slowpoke.
Marcin is sleeping, not everyone's a robot : - )
buny

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

Although I know it concerns only color x ztrot duo, I'm saying this to all the commentators

We all are aware how important a player WWW is, but I can definitely see how he is sometimes depicted as god without a good reason.

- Freemod Pick, WWW hasn't played the maps so he sticks with nomod while me and farto and SterruM pick HardRock. Who gets the standing ovation? "Great score by WWW with only 1x 100s and good job farto blah blah for getting a Full Combo"

- DT pick, we arrive at the first break (about half of the map). Farto and WWW still got SS. What's the comment? "OH MY GOD WWW still with SS" Farto apparently was invisible.

Well, it's not that we demand more praise, it's simply that the comments like the ones above imply that we're fucking carried by the mighty WWW each map and it makes the rest of the team look unneeded, extra, dummies etc.
yep. The backriding is annoying in any commentated stream
Andrea
I'm so proud of my team, really.

Nice match with Portugal, friendly and nice people to play with! ^^

Same goes to Germany, was an awesome match to play too! >w<
Nwolf
AmaiHachimitsu

Nwolf wrote:

It was "week" earlier IIRC
Arnold0
I wonder why it seams many pro players have bad connexions. Many fake combo drops, players making the stream laggy or desynched, and even disconnections.
Also why the stream is only @ 2000kbps and without quality options ? ;-o
Xayne
Does Bancho have some kind of ddos detection system in place? I know it's kind of hard to pinpoint in a tournament this large over the internet, but I have a hard time believing that all of a sudden these players have insane connection issues to a game that doesn't require much of one. It's bad to think about, but at the same time you'd have to be pretty naive to think there isn't at least a little bit of that going on across the entire tournament.
Heterozygous_old
A quick reminder to those commentators:

Keep an eye on the discussion board, and make sure you'll do what ztrot has been doing before he left.
I don't want to see anymore examples of the map link updated after the game went for two rounds after warm-up. This is ridiculous.
KRZY

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

As you can see, not many upsets took place, but only today many of them were very close to happen. This just confirms our worries about the mappool. Germany and Austria clinched their wins in tiebreaker.
No, it means that said countries were underpracticed or just not as good as they are seen to be. Problem is on them, not on the mappool.
Aka
i am a girl, please dont call me HE next time thanks >_<
Topic Starter
Loctav
We are experiencing some.. interferences by pissed people while we stream and play. That's why you all shall do not open skype, teamspeak, steam or any other 3rd party program that exposes your IP to others in order to avoid getting targetted. Our commentators were also affected, so apologizes for this.

Keep in mind that it is your very own responsibility to keep yourself secure, because we can not help you, if you make yourself a beloved target for scumbags trying to ruin your tournament experience. Don't forget that.

Moreover, pools and schedules were ALWAYS released on Sunday evening or directly after the last match of groupstage took place. It was never different. And as long as the time span is equal for everyone to practise, it's still fair.

Players getting kicked and dropping is the player's fault. Most are having Skype open in background and they target the users directly. The servers are running perfectly fine.
KRZY
Time to blame Azer ;)
Sadolution

Loctav wrote:

Players getting kicked and dropping is the player's fault. Most are having Skype open in background and they target the users directly. The servers are running perfectly fine.
is that why everyone got disconeccted from bancho earlier? (a lot of ppl were mentioning it in streachat aswell. oh and yes i know participants using a different "server")
score submission went down for a few aswell. hmmmm...
Gigo
What's the reason for the fake combo drops that can be seen on stream? Is it the client's fault and if it is, can it be fixed?
Xytox
But closing down Skype won't help much if the attacker has already acquired the ip, will it?

It's worrying to say the least, and really sad at that as well. Like holy shit. I refuse to believe that Norway would disconnect that much against us. I could bet thousands of dollars that they wouldn't if it was a regular match in multiplayer. Still, that's what happened, and they were not the only ones. Some of my teammates dropped as well. One got kicked from the server entirely even.

And then when our match is done, the next matches gets streamed and not a single problem in sight.

Like I'm so confused. Who the actual fuck would be interested in DDoS'ing Norway or Sweden out of all countries?
PsychoJake
Osu! World Cup 2014 - Saturday results

New Zealand 1 - 4 Philippines
Lithuania 2 - 4 Taiwan
Indonesia 1 - 4 Australia
Malaysia 1 - 4 China
Hong Kong 0 - 4 Netherlands
Singapore 4 - 3 Finland
Denmark 1 - 4 Russia
Portugal 0 - 4 South Korea
Argentina 4 - 3 Philippines
Hong Kong 0 - 4 Poland
Denmark 1 - 4 Malaysia
Russia 1 - 4 China
Portugal 0 - 4 Italy
Finland 1 - 4 UK
Lithuania 0 - 4 Norway
Canada 0 - 4 Poland
Chile 1 - 4 France
Canada 2 - 4 Netherlands
Ukraine 4 - 2 Brazil
Finland 0 - 4 USA
Argentina 4 - 3 Austria
Mexico 0 - 4 Brazil
Norway 1 - 4 Sweden
Italy 3 - 4 Germany
New Zealand 0 - 4 Argentina
UK 2 - 4 USA
Chile 2 - 4 Australia
Mexico 0 - 4 Japan
buny

Xytox wrote:

But closing down Skype won't help much if the attacker has already acquired the ip, will it?

It's worrying to say the least, and really sad at that as well. Like holy shit. I refuse to believe that Norway would disconnect that much against us. I could bet thousands of dollars that they wouldn't if it was a regular match in multiplayer. Still, that's what happened, and they were not the only ones. Some of my teammates dropped as well. One got kicked from the server entirely even.

And then when our match is done, the next matches gets streamed and not a single problem in sight.

Like I'm so confused. Who the actual fuck would be interested in DDoS'ing Norway or Sweden out of all countries?
people that hate swedes maybe?
or just to cause controversy in general

I'm curious if that skype group got much practical use out of it either


US>UK
mighty murrica 2stronk for queen gg piekaoru and gunther
Enhu

PsychoJake wrote:

Osu! World Cup 2014 - Saturday results

New Zealand 1 - 4 Philippines
Lithuania 2 - 4 Taiwan
Indonesia 1 - 4 Australia
Malaysia 1 - 4 China
Hong Kong 0 - 4 Netherlands
Singapore 4 - 3 Finland
Denmark 1 - 4 Russia
Portugal 0 - 4 South Korea
Argentina 4 - 3 Philippines
Hong Kong 0 - 4 Poland
Denmark 1 - 4 Malaysia
Russia 1 - 4 China
Portugal 0 - 4 Italy
Finland 1 - 4 UK
Lithuania 0 - 4 Norway
Canada 0 - 4 Poland
Chile 1 - 4 France
Canada 2 - 4 Netherlands
Ukraine 4 - 2 Brazil
Finland 0 - 4 USA
Argentina 4 - 3 Austria
Mexico 0 - 4 Brazil
Norway 1 - 4 Sweden
Italy 3 - 4 Germany
New Zealand 0 - 4 Argentina
UK 2 - 4 USA
Chile 2 - 4 Australia
Mexico 0 - 4 Japan
Thank you but, we lost against Austria lol
Raiku
first day was a good success if you look at it as a whole!

good job to all who participated, im proud of the uk for being able to steal some points off USA and retain some dignity :D
Pizzicato

Enhu wrote:

Thank you but, we lost against Austria lol
oh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
Bauxe

buny wrote:

people that hate swedes maybe?
or just to cause controversy in general

I'm curious if that skype group got much practical use out of it either


US>UK
mighty murrica 2stronk for queen gg piekaoru and gunther


This seems to stop skype resolvers at the very least. Probably still possible for contacts to get the IP, in which case using a proxy is always an option.
Melt3dCheeze
If you're promoting us to not use skype, can you atleast make an ingame chatrooms like #red and #blue? Skype and other third party programs are good for team communication, but ingame would be nice.
Topic Starter
Loctav

Melt3dCheeze wrote:

If you're promoting us to not use skype, can you atleast make an ingame chatrooms like #red and #blue? Skype and other third party programs are good for team communication, but ingame would be nice.

Smoo will work on it. Meanwhile, use the language chats or #ctb or #taiko. They yet exist on the OWC bancho and are empty.
B1rd
I am hoping for Japan to win this OWC. previously it was Taiwan but then they lost Hvick and Rucker.
Topic Starter
Loctav
Lance
neonat

PsychoJake wrote:

Osu! World Cup 2014 - Saturday results

New Zealand 1 - 4 Philippines
Lithuania 2 - 4 Taiwan
Indonesia 1 - 4 Australia
Malaysia 1 - 4 China
Hong Kong 0 - 4 Netherlands
Singapore 4 - 3 Finland
Denmark 1 - 4 Russia
Portugal 0 - 4 South Korea
Argentina 4 - 3 Philippines
Hong Kong 0 - 4 Poland
Denmark 1 - 4 Malaysia
Russia 1 - 4 China
Portugal 0 - 4 Italy
Finland 1 - 4 UK
Lithuania 0 - 4 Norway
Canada 0 - 4 Poland
Chile 1 - 4 France
Canada 2 - 4 Netherlands
Ukraine 4 - 2 Brazil
Finland 0 - 4 USA
Argentina 4 - 3 Austria
Mexico 0 - 4 Brazil
Norway 1 - 4 Sweden
Italy 3 - 4 Germany
New Zealand 0 - 4 Argentina
UK 2 - 4 USA
Chile 2 - 4 Australia
Mexico 0 - 4 Japan
Singapore lost 3 to 4 :\
Xayne
When was the last time a team won two 3v4's against two different teams on the same day? I don't ever remember that happening before. Very impressive.
Gumpy

Xytox wrote:

It's worrying to say the least, and really sad at that as well. Like holy shit. I refuse to believe that Norway would disconnect that much against us. I could bet thousands of dollars that they wouldn't if it was a regular match in multiplayer. Still, that's what happened, and they were not the only ones. Some of my teammates dropped as well. One got kicked from the server entirely even.
I refuse to believe that with the kind of internet Norway/Sweden has would suddenly drop.
Oinari-sama
Austria 4:0 New Zealand https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10348353
Taiwan 4:1 Norway https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10348348
France 4:2 Indonesia https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10348356
sellyme
That second map in South Korea v Germany...



Well, time to wrap it up. Can't get better than that. So crazy to watch.
B1rd
Dustice seems to be feeling the pressure.
Xayne
Still blows my mind how they didn't consider South Korea a top seed.
Nwolf
Xayne
DEM GERMANS DOE
Astar
Why not make some sorf of a spec buffer, I wouldn't mind a little delay for no lag stream experience.
Athrun
rip korea. first loss in 3 years.
Noobsicle
that was a big comeback by germany, wp!

australia #1!!
Deimos
Italy vs. Germany: 3-1 -> 3-4
South Korea vs. Germany: 3-1 -> 3-4

The best things come in threes. Portugal vs. Germany: 3-1 -> 3-4

The new wonder of "3-1"
buny
would be nice if the first 50 matches weren't the same map tbh

just a suggestion in case the map selectors want to put in the extra effort to make the first couple days less repetitive


In #2 we had a different map pool for each match in group stages
Athrun

buny wrote:

would be nice if the first 50 matches weren't the same map tbh

just a suggestion in case the map selectors want to put in the extra effort to make the first couple days less repetitive


In #2 we had a different map pool for each match in group stages
I concur. Just getting too repetitive
sables
Germany hype. Congrats guys!
cr1mmy
THANKS FOR DDOSING RUSSIA, PIDORS
benny10033
Just a quick question: Why not put team coop. in game mode?
Shiro

Aka wrote:

i am a girl, please dont call me HE next time thanks >_<
ggs to Chile, Indonesia and Australia !
I'm disappointed in my performance, but meh. This is just the beginning, things will get better =P
Melt3dCheeze
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10350503
4:0 France vs Australia
France Wins
Shiro OP
Shiawase

cr1m wrote:

THANKS FOR DDOSING RUSSIA, PIDORS
THANKS FOR DDOSING RUSSIA, PIDORS
Lapis-
UK 4 - 0 Singapore

God save the queen. https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10350506
Xantaria
srsly tho .. DDOSing ... to destroy a competition that way is just the worst experience for everybody participating and watching.
Yauxo

benny10033 wrote:

Just a quick question: Why not put team coop. in game mode?
Well, why would they?
Setsuen

Zantaria wrote:

srsly tho .. DDOSing ... to destroy a competition that way is just the worst experience for everybody participating and watching.
Just what happened while I was out of my house @.@
Andrea
Was a nice match against Korea as well, great experience from it.

We had really hard teams against but I'm proud of my team and the performance that we did, we demonstrated to be pretty good players.

Though yeah, every year we suffer so badly to make it out of the group stage! xD

OWC 2013: Italy vs New Zealand 4-0 | Latvia vs Italy 4-3 | United States vs Italy 4-3

OWC 2014: Italy vs Portugal 4-0 | Germany vs Italy 4-3 | South Korea vs Italy 4-2
Xantaria

Setsuen wrote:

Just what happened while I was out of my house @.@
It seemed like multiple russian players got DDOS'd when they were 3/0 in the lead
Nwolf
Wow Netherlands GG
silmarilen
netherlands 4-2 poland
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10353347

that was a bit unexpected, but yay!
Gangsterkill

silmarilen wrote:

netherlands 4-2 poland
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10353347

that was a bit unexpected, but yay!
You guys deserved it 8-)
rEdo
What happened on Towa yori Towa ni that it was a 4v3?

Well played, nevertheless.
fartownik

rEdo wrote:

What happened on Towa yori Towa ni that it was a 4v3?

Well played, nevertheless.
Astar's internet GG
KRZY
Mixed feelings for this group stage.

Really proud of how the first-timers in the team performed, especially MathClass. K i R i K a R u has officially been promoted to the driver's seat of the bus that is the Korean team, and it's both impressive and happy to see a player who's been around forever finally making a name for himself as one of the best players in the world at the biggest stage of the game.

A bit disappointed with my own performance, for me it is fair to say I single-handedly threw away the Germany game with the miss on Bonfire and then the Terekakushi pick. Should have thought better. Overall I missed too many times on no-mod maps than I would have liked, but improvements will be made.

Had forgotten how fun this tournament is. Loving it at the moment.
Vuelo Eluko
USA pls stop winning
Synchrostar

silmarilen wrote:

netherlands 4-2 poland
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10353347

that was a bit unexpected, but yay!
yay

never picking hdhr again
Cyclohexane
17 solid hours of commentary later, I am left broken and voiceless

Can't wait to do that again next week!
Chaoslitz
Good game :>
Kazutakee
I lost it for Denmark at the last match.. u_u
plaatinum
Welp, I guess that's all for us this year. Pretty impressed that we were at least able to upgrade from being swept 0-4 to every team last year to at least giving Finland a run for their money this year. Hopefully we can come back next year and perform better than we did this year.
El Koko
Well, that was it for Mexico.

We did well. We gave the best we could under the circumstances. Being our first world cup, the pressure from much better teams on us, our team being generally weak (the weakest in the entire tournament?) and for each of us individually under the pressure of carrying the entire weight of the team on us (well, at least for me, I felt that way) we couldn't expect much more, but I think we still did a good performance. We could have done much better, but we didn't. That's just how things are.

At least I'm happy for playing in the tournament, it was fun, it was a nice experiencie and we're going to come back next year with a much better team. We're going to work hard on that.

Thanks everyone for the games and good luck to every team on your future matches.
cptnXn

KRZY wrote:

Mixed feelings for this group stage.

Really proud of how the first-timers in the team performed, especially MathClass. K i R i K a R u has officially been promoted to the driver's seat of the bus that is the Korean team, and it's both impressive and happy to see a player who's been around forever finally making a name for himself as one of the best players in the world at the biggest stage of the game.

A bit disappointed with my own performance, for me it is fair to say I single-handedly threw away the Germany game with the miss on Bonfire and then the Terekakushi pick. Should have thought better. Overall I missed too many times on no-mod maps than I would have liked, but improvements will be made.

Had forgotten how fun this tournament is. Loving it at the moment.
our match was simply amazing. Huge props to MathClass he performed really really well! I didn't think we can come back but oh well that freemod pick / your hdhr was really playing into our hands
Lunah
I just wonder how Korea was "high seed" and Germany "top seed" and our team was marked as "low seed" while Portugal was a "medium seed", I would like know what's the "top seed" on groups like Group C, Group B and Group E.. lmao

well, nothing else to say, I am happy of our performance, we almost won against Germany and played really well, I hope a better organization for the next owc.



Next year I would suggest to use some experienced players to make groups properly.
cptnXn

lesslunatic wrote:

I just wonder how Korea was "high seed" and Germany "top seed" and our team was marked as "low seed" while Portugal was a "medium seed", I would like know what's the "top seed" on groups like Group C, Group B and Group E.. lmao

well, nothing else to say, I am happy of our performance, we almost won against Germany and played really well, I hope a better organization for the next owc.



Next year I would suggest to use some experienced players to make groups properly.
i'll have to agree on this one. Italy could've easily won against other top seed teams with their performance and certainly didn't deserve 2nd lowest seed, same for Korea and high seed. This was one tough group man, other groups were nothing compared to this, everyone played SO well!
Deimos
Austria was last year low-seeded and got the 1st place in their group. Can't remember if they were also complaining about being wrong seeded.
Andrea

cptnXn wrote:

lesslunatic wrote:

I just wonder how Korea was "high seed" and Germany "top seed" and our team was marked as "low seed" while Portugal was a "medium seed", I would like know what's the "top seed" on groups like Group C, Group B and Group E.. lmao

well, nothing else to say, I am happy of our performance, we almost won against Germany and played really well, I hope a better organization for the next owc.



Next year I would suggest to use some experienced players to make groups properly.
i'll have to agree on this one. Italy could've easily won against other top seed teams with their performance and certainly didn't deserve 2nd lowest seed, same for Korea and high seed. This was one tough group man, other groups were nothing compared to this
Also completely agree with everything that was said here, we got an awesome experience from these matches at least, and it was damn awesome and competitive to play against you guys. :)
xasuma
Being on the other end of the straw(spectator on twitch) I would like to inquire for someone to attempt and fix fake misses. I know it is "client lag", but there is got to be something someone can do about it.
This one thing is for me at least the most annoying one when watching owc. Hopefully for the next weekends coming, but if it's not possible that quickly, at least for next year. ty
Marcin

Mr Color wrote:

17 solid hours of commentary later, I am left broken and voiceless

Can't wait to do that again next week!
17 solid hours of streaming later

I'm hearing voices in my head

seeing circles all around the room

my head hurts

voice of ephemeral telling me "MARSEEEN YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU BROKE IT AGAIN"

I can't sleep, I'm deprived.

One circle is falling on me, it's trying to crush me!

---dead---

Is it reality, or just fantasy?
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