Does anyone here know where I can find the "slider follow circle" like the one in the video?
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Thank you very much.Garygoh884 wrote:
Some beatmaps have storyboards, consisting of visualization sprites. To enhance storyboard visibility while playing in Taiko, slider sprites, like taiko-slider.png and taiko-slider-fail.png are made invisible. If these sprites were visible regardless of their alpha channel (transparency), it may obstruct visibility for some storyboarding sprites.salamat wrote:
I'm new to skinning, but it's bugging me that my taiko-slider.png and taiko-slider-fail.png does not show up for certain songs. Why is it that it shows up on most songs but not on others? And is there a way to fix this?
Meepergon
I think it isn'tMeepergon wrote:
Do cursor sizes affect the hitbox of the cursor?
I think no because "Version: 2" and beyond's behaviour to tint the warning arrows to color redMeepergon wrote:
Also, is there any way to change the color the game tints warning arrows?
Yes, for each hitcircle, you can decide whether to put these number sprites in front of its hitcircleoverlay by adding "HitCircleOverlayAboveNumber: 0" to your skin.ini, or setting this value to 1 otherwise. These numbers are always drawn on top of its hitcircle.png.[cocoa] wrote:
Can i put default-(num) in front of hitcircleoverlay?
[cocoa]_old
Haha it's workGarygoh884 wrote:
Yes, for each hitcircle, you can decide whether to put these number sprites in front of its hitcircleoverlay by adding "HitCircleOverlayAboveNumber: 0" to your skin.ini, or setting this value to 1 otherwise. These numbers are always drawn on top of its hitcircle.png.
Thanks~
Hey, I just got myself a new skin but how can I get rid of this bg pictures showing up in the songselection I don't like it and my last skin didn't had it. http://puu.sh/9DAwC/5332b2b8d5.jpg
Disable "Show Thumbnails" in options
vahn10 wrote:
Disable "Show Thumbnails" in options
Thanks!
[Pikachu] wrote:
Hey, I just got myself a new skin but how can I get rid of this bg pictures showing up in the songselection I don't like it and my last skin didn't had it. http://puu.sh/9DAwC/5332b2b8d5.jpg
Or the other way xD
[cocoa]_old
I don't know but try this
RBRat3 wrote:
Fruit-catcher-idle.png
Fruit-catcher-kiai.png
Fruit-catcher-fail.png
vahn10 wrote:
I don't know but try thisRBRat3 wrote:
Fruit-catcher-idle.png
Fruit-catcher-kiai.png
Fruit-catcher-fail.png
EDIT: well i just read it is working for some people so... why is this happening:
Did i wrote something wrong? I've checked 987439 times.
I tried with version 2 and 2.2 but doesn't work, it always shows the old ryuuta.
[cocoa]_old
It's work!!! Thank you vahn10vahn10 wrote:
I don't know but try thisRBRat3 wrote:
Fruit-catcher-idle.png
Fruit-catcher-kiai.png
Fruit-catcher-fail.png
In my case, i just addElzapatoverde wrote:
I don't think this is working for skinning yet, i tried and it wont recognize the elements
EDIT: well i just read it is working for some people so... why is this happening:
Did i wrote something wrong? I've checked 987439 times.
Version: latestto the skin.ini i dunno it's work on another ppl PC
But:
And it is my Hinanawi Tenshi skin, of course i'm gonna share it.OsuMe65 wrote:
NEVER use "latest" as your Version if you have plans to share it :3
Never use "Version: latest" to a skin if you want to distribute it here.
Use Version: 2.3 since it's the latest version as of now. That is, if you want to distribute that skin.
Use Version: 2.3 since it's the latest version as of now. That is, if you want to distribute that skin.
Thank you so much, it works fine now using Version: 2.3
[cocoa]_old
Actually a skin without the 'version' in the skin.txt accepted now?OsuMe65 wrote:
Never use "Version: latest" to a skin if you want to distribute it here.
Use Version: 2.3 since it's the latest version as of now. That is, if you want to distribute that skin.
coz I have another skin in progress that started to edit before the ver2.3 one
Is it possible to change the FPS counter from using the default-numbers?
Changing default numbers affects both FPS and hitcircle numbers if you use the default prefix for hitcircles as in your skin.ini. So if you want to change these two numbers individually, these are the steps, according to what I commented on the latest release notes:Keanulaszlo wrote:
Is it possible to change the FPS counter from using the default-numbers?
xrate56
[cocoa]_old
Re-make the image, or you can use photozoom pro but isn't free at all so you must buy the software firstxrate56 wrote:
How do I make a @x2 image without losing quality? When I double the size of an image it is very blurry.
You should do the @2x first, so you can make it smaller later without loosing quality.xrate56 wrote:
How do I make a @x2 image without losing quality? When I double the size of an image it is very blurry.
Does anyone know how to make it so the skip image isn't transparent? The image I am using isn't transparent but in game it is.
Nope, you can't do that (I hate it too).Gritoit wrote:
Does anyone know how to make it so the skip image isn't transparent? The image I am using isn't transparent but in game it is.
Is it possible to make it so the scorebar-ki set of images don't pulse? (how they get bigger on hit notes)
So..I am testing the version 2.3 of my skin
it seems 2.3 version do not support a full size of ranking panel? A bar left at top of my ranking panel
If not, anyone can help me to fix it
Ranking panels which covers entierly the beatmap background are only supported in Version 1 skins. If you're using a Version 2+ skin, making these ranking panels would not cover backgrounds entirely due to its shifted offset.Chaoslitz wrote:
So..I am testing the version 2.3 of my skin
it seems 2.3 version do not support a full size of ranking panel? A bar left at top of my ranking panel
If not, anyone can help me to fix it
well thanksGarygoh884 wrote:
Ranking panels which covers entierly the beatmap background are only supported in Version 1 skins. If you're using a Version 2+ skin, making these ranking panels would not cover backgrounds entirely due to its shifted offset.
Just wondering, is there a way to change the background when your in the ranking panel menu? I think it was playfield.png but its not working. The image I'm using is 1366 x 768 resolution.
I am not sure which image you are talking about@@Dudge wrote:
Just wondering, is there a way to change the background when your in the ranking panel menu? I think it was playfield.png but its not working. The image I'm using is 1366 x 768 resolution.
but a playfield (playfield.png) is different from the ranking panel (ranking-panel.png)
A playfield appear like thse when a beatmap don't own a background photo
Don't worry, figured it out myself. Thanks for the reply.Chaoslitz wrote:
I am not sure which image you are talking about@@Dudge wrote:
Just wondering, is there a way to change the background when your in the ranking panel menu? I think it was playfield.png but its not working. The image I'm using is 1366 x 768 resolution.
but a playfield (playfield.png) is different from the ranking panel (ranking-panel.png)
A playfield appear like thse when a beatmap don't own a background photo
Occasionally my skin won't load the hit50, 100, 300 and miss for my skin is there something that I can do to fix this?
Also Is it possible to make it so the scorebar-ki set of images don't pulse? (how they get bigger on hit notes)
Also Is it possible to make it so the scorebar-ki set of images don't pulse? (how they get bigger on hit notes)
I have 2 questions
Can I relocate the current combo in the right side instead of having it on the lower left (default) ?
Can I remove this things in replay mode?
I'm trying to make a youtube video showing 2 people playing the same song in multiplayer (we can't record it cause it will hit our pc significantly) using 2 replays.
It would be awesome if I can remove those replay elements so the video will be much cleaner. Also if I can move the current combo to left or right, then I would be able to show the difference on the current combo from the 2 players.
Can I relocate the current combo in the right side instead of having it on the lower left (default) ?
Can I remove this things in replay mode?
I'm trying to make a youtube video showing 2 people playing the same song in multiplayer (we can't record it cause it will hit our pc significantly) using 2 replays.
It would be awesome if I can remove those replay elements so the video will be much cleaner. Also if I can move the current combo to left or right, then I would be able to show the difference on the current combo from the 2 players.
simple questions with simple answers: No!
These buttons will always show up on replays and spectated plays.
The combo count also has its fixed postion in the bottom left corner. Best bet for this would be to request it as a feature and hope it gets implemented eventually.
These buttons will always show up on replays and spectated plays.
The combo count also has its fixed postion in the bottom left corner. Best bet for this would be to request it as a feature and hope it gets implemented eventually.
ok thanks for the fast reply. Don't need Feature requests for this I guess.
I'll try to edit the combo position instead in my NLE, except for those replay elements :3
Then edit some elements in the skins instead to differentiate the 2 players
I'll try to edit the combo position instead in my NLE, except for those replay elements :3
Then edit some elements in the skins instead to differentiate the 2 players
I've always wanted to ask. Where do skinners get there sounds from? For example, I want Kugimiya Rie saying baka as an osu combobreak sound. How do the skinners get this? Do they just rip it off the episode that you can hear it in or is there a database of sounds that are exclusive to skinners that I don't know about?
Google is our Bestfriend.
Sometimes, we rip voices from anime episodes; sometimes we Google for that.
Sometimes, we rip voices from anime episodes; sometimes we Google for that.
Does anyone know where to get larger versions of these letter rankings for the ranking screen?
These are actually available on this site and were easy to find using the various tools contained within "F12" on chrome, it turns out they were at these URLs:
https://s.ppy.sh/images/XH.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/X.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/SH.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/S.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/A.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/B.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/C.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/D.png
These are suitable for the small ranking during playtime for "@2x" and "regular size" (I can just downscale these), but I would really like large ones to use for the ranking screen.
These are actually available on this site and were easy to find using the various tools contained within "F12" on chrome, it turns out they were at these URLs:
https://s.ppy.sh/images/XH.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/X.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/SH.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/S.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/A.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/B.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/C.png
https://s.ppy.sh/images/D.png
These are suitable for the small ranking during playtime for "@2x" and "regular size" (I can just downscale these), but I would really like large ones to use for the ranking screen.
In the first page of THIS THREAD you can find two templates that contain those ranking letters.
Do you mean the default skin templates? Those do not use the ranking letters I posted. If you mean another template can you please send me a link because I cannot find any others on the first page.Elzapatoverde wrote:
In the first page of THIS THREAD you can find two templates that contain those ranking letters.
Yep, those are the default ranking letters, but from the "old skin template" .
Great! Thank you, that was precisely what I was looking for.
What are the hit sound samples of Taiko skin?
I want to change them, but idk what they are called >.<
I want to change them, but idk what they are called >.<
they use the same format for the taiko hitsounds (eg. normal-hitnormal) but affixed with taiko- in the beginning (eg. taiko-normal-hitnormal) [if my memory serves me right though].
But the Big Don/Kat and Kat?
How to do those?
How to do those?
taiko-(sampleset)-hitfinish = for the big dons
taiko-(sampleset)-hitwhistle = for the big katsus
(sampleset) here refers to normal, soft, and drum samplesets.
taiko-(sampleset)-hitwhistle = for the big katsus
(sampleset) here refers to normal, soft, and drum samplesets.
Thanks!ReddScorn wrote:
you forgot the spinner-circle. it's used on Taiko spinners and old-style spinners (the set with background and metre, not the new-style ones).Elzapatoverde wrote:
Are there specific elements for the spinner on taiko? or does anyone know whats happening?
I can't get rid of a blue trail for my osu skin. There is no file for a cursor trail
http://puu.sh/9SZPh/687a0b2ffe.jpg
http://puu.sh/9SZPh/687a0b2ffe.jpg
[cocoa]_old
copy your "cursormiddle" file and rename the copy one of cursormiddle to cursortrailmrgkevin wrote:
I can't get rid of a blue trail for my osu skin. There is no file for a cursor trail
http://puu.sh/9SZPh/687a0b2ffe.jpg
[cocoa]_old
How do I change the selected song font and star.png color from black? I've tried fiddling with "SongSelectActiveText:" as the wiki suggested but nothing happened at all.
I really dislike this change that was made a little while ago, specially the part about changing the stars colors too.
I really dislike this change that was made a little while ago, specially the part about changing the stars colors too.
You have to put it under the [Colours] section, not somewhere else.TeaDots wrote:
How do I change the selected song font and star.png color from black? I've tried fiddling with "SongSelectActiveText:" as the wiki suggested but nothing happened at all.
I really dislike this change that was made a little while ago, specially the part about changing the stars colors too.
volume-bar can't be skinned. volume-bg-effect is shown when you rotate the mouse wheel or change music with the arrow keys while holding the Alt-key.[cocoa] wrote:
Sorry for double post but i have a question here i dunno it's double post or............ yeah whatever
- There is a element named "volume-bar" & "volume-bg-effect" where i can find that's element showing in osu!? and this still skinnable?
- And what name of these three element?
To the three elements: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2996701 http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2998111 http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2999197
Short example and explanation on the new default sliderball. They are called sliderb, sliderb-nd, and sliderb-spec.
Sadly they only work on the default sliderball. You can apply the sliderb-nd and sliderb-spec to the default ball but you can't apply them when you have a custom sliderball for now.
You should also change SongSelectInactiveText.TeaDots wrote:
How do I change the selected song font and star.png color from black? I've tried fiddling with "SongSelectActiveText:" as the wiki suggested but nothing happened at all.
I really dislike this change that was made a little while ago, specially the part about changing the stars colors too.
[cocoa]_old
oh i see, so the slider can't be skinned yet?ReddScorn wrote:
volume-bar can't be skinned. volume-bg-effect is shown when you rotate the mouse wheel or change music with the arrow keys while holding the Alt-key.
To the three elements: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2996701 http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2998111 http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2999197
Short example and explanation on the new default sliderball. They are called sliderb, sliderb-nd, and sliderb-spec.
Sadly they only work on the default sliderball. You can apply the sliderb-nd and sliderb-spec to the default ball but you can't apply them when you have a custom sliderball for now.
Does anyone know what is the animation sequence for pippidonclear#.png?
In Custom Taiko Characters says that is: 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-5-6-5-4-3-2-1-0
but that was 5 years ago, and i think that now is: 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-4-3-2-1-0 or 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-3-2-1-0
Can anyone confirm?
In Custom Taiko Characters says that is: 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-5-6-5-4-3-2-1-0
but that was 5 years ago, and i think that now is: 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-4-3-2-1-0 or 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-3-2-1-0
Can anyone confirm?
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How do I skin the spinner? Broken after one of the older updates, too lazy to post until now.
Changed to correct icon~
Mh, think there was a way to specify at which combo count a comboburst appears, but how was that done? Cant remember..
that only applies to the sounds, not the images.Granger wrote:
Mh, think there was a way to specify at which combo count a comboburst appears, but how was that done? Cant remember..
Topic Starter
Try naming selected pictures "comboburst-0", "comboburst-1", "comboburst-2" etc. without ComboBurstRandom in skin.ini.Granger wrote:
Mh, think there was a way to specify at which combo count a comboburst appears, but how was that done? Cant remember..
Im trying to have those only appear at 500 combo steps... oh well that works too i guess, a lot of blank images then. :VMLGnom wrote:
Try naming selected pictures "comboburst-0", "comboburst-1", "comboburst-2" etc. without ComboBurstRandom in skin.ini.Granger wrote:
Mh, think there was a way to specify at which combo count a comboburst appears, but how was that done? Cant remember..
Does anyone have a template that contains multi-skipped@2x.png and multi-skipped.png? None of the templates I can find have this element included and according to this thread it should be skinable I would just like to have a base resolution and original image to work with.
I can't change my Menu Background?
I tried any possible way to change my Menu Background but it doesn't apply In-game. Any help would be much appreciated.
I tried any possible way to change my Menu Background but it doesn't apply In-game. Any help would be much appreciated.
Be a supporter; nothing else.
Sorry, I'm kinda' new to this game.
What is supporter?
Will i be able to change my Menu Background if i become a supporter?
What is supporter?
Will i be able to change my Menu Background if i become a supporter?
andruru
Here is my question I have this parts for my skin: http://puu.sh/a0KAY/1a41240a8b.png
The problem is, when song reaches number10 or more. it appears double and it bugs ;-; and looks like: http://puu.sh/a0KIf/0bb0599f9a.jpg
How do i do to make songs dont pass the number 9, or that takes 1 again after 9..? anyone knows or it's impossible and i have to change the default numbers to hit circles?
The problem is, when song reaches number10 or more. it appears double and it bugs ;-; and looks like: http://puu.sh/a0KIf/0bb0599f9a.jpg
How do i do to make songs dont pass the number 9, or that takes 1 again after 9..? anyone knows or it's impossible and i have to change the default numbers to hit circles?
In the skin.ini-file set "HitCircleOverlap:" found in the [Fonts] section to the max width of your default numbers or 999 if you're not sure.dragonhuman- wrote:
Here is my question I have this parts for my skin: http://puu.sh/a0KAY/1a41240a8b.png
The problem is, when song reaches number10 or more. it appears double and it bugs ;-; and looks like: http://puu.sh/a0KIf/0bb0599f9a.jpg
How do i do to make songs dont pass the number 9, or that takes 1 again after 9..? anyone knows or it's impossible and i have to change the default numbers to hit circles?
You will sometimes see the 1 behind another number when reaching 10 or above but you can't do anything against that.
andruru
ReddScorn wrote:
In the skin.ini-file set "HitCircleOverlap:" found in the [Fonts] section to the max width of your default numbers or 999 if you're not sure.dragonhuman- wrote:
Here is my question I have this parts for my skin: http://puu.sh/a0KAY/1a41240a8b.png
The problem is, when song reaches number10 or more. it appears double and it bugs ;-; and looks like: http://puu.sh/a0KIf/0bb0599f9a.jpg
How do i do to make songs dont pass the number 9, or that takes 1 again after 9..? anyone knows or it's impossible and i have to change the default numbers to hit circles?
You will sometimes see the 1 behind another number when reaching 10 or above but you can't do anything against that.
http://puu.sh/a0QqM/0841eb7ace.jpg it's even worse lol..
I think cr1m has the same hitnumbers but... his numbers does not bug Q_Q
Judging from my own experiments I can assure that if you set it to 160 that won't happen if you scaled them right (or your width of the images, 999 was just an example).dragonhuman- wrote:
http://puu.sh/a0QqM/0841eb7ace.jpg it's even worse lol..
I think cr1m has the same hitnumbers but... his numbers does not bug Q_Q
andruru
you are god. thank you so much!ReddScorn wrote:
Judging from my own experiments I can assure that if you set it to 160 that won't happen if you scaled them right (or your width of the images, 999 was just an example).dragonhuman- wrote:
http://puu.sh/a0QqM/0841eb7ace.jpg it's even worse lol..
I think cr1m has the same hitnumbers but... his numbers does not bug Q_Q
Hello, I got a question. Is it possible to change the opacity of the play-skip button?
I edited it with Gimp. Opacity is at 100 with Transparency background but Osu! makes it barely visible.
Thanks guys!
(Edit)
Don't mind me, I found my Answer. https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3191007
I edited it with Gimp. Opacity is at 100 with Transparency background but Osu! makes it barely visible.
Thanks guys!
(Edit)
Don't mind me, I found my Answer. https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3191007
I'll still leave the question here if someone else have a different answer for me :Elzapatoverde wrote:
Nope, you can't do that (I hate it too).Gritoit wrote:
Does anyone know how to make it so the skip image isn't transparent? The image I am using isn't transparent but in game it is.
Anyone know where this guy's osu ui file is from? ㄎ: http://youtu.be/ZLrzMP1J97s
Hi!Anyone know which fonts are used for combo
Fixed already, nevermind.
I want to turn off or turn down/off the opacity of the play-skip on my skin but I don't know how. Help!
no You can't I think...LK7 wrote:
I want to turn off or turn down/off the opacity of the play-skip on my skin but I don't know how. Help!
Logically possible.
Turning down opacity in Photoshop will do = w=
(can't guarantee success though)
Turning down opacity in Photoshop will do = w=
(can't guarantee success though)
What's with play-warningarrow always showing up red in-game? How can I make it the correct color?
The new version of skin.ini will force it to show in red colour so can't @@CommAshen wrote:
What's with play-warningarrow always showing up red in-game? How can I make it the correct color?
Actually possible, but will have to make skin into Version 1Chaoslitz wrote:
The new version of skin.ini will force it to show in red colour so can't @@CommAshen wrote:
What's with play-warningarrow always showing up red in-game? How can I make it the correct color?
Making skin version 1 would cause a thousand other problems even if it fixes this 1, so not worth.dws123 wrote:
Actually possible, but will have to make skin into Version 1
There is no other way?
Why is this new "upgraded" skin style taking customizability AWAY from the user and making my skin look ugly? I don't get it...
Hey guys, this is the first time I ever posted anything in osu!forum so please forgive me if there is something wrong with my post, thank you.
I tried some skinning myself (just mixing some skins) and I found one skin with combobursts. As I heard the voice in the combobursts, I immidiately want to apply them in my skin. So I just copy and paste (so sorry if that was rude, but I do not claim them as mine, it was this skin t/224240 )
But I cannot get them all to work when I play. I can only hear the combobreak sound.
It wasn't a big disappoint to me until today, when I record a replay I played, I can hear them VERY nice. And it just pisses me off
Can any1 help me please?
I tried some skinning myself (just mixing some skins) and I found one skin with combobursts. As I heard the voice in the combobursts, I immidiately want to apply them in my skin. So I just copy and paste (so sorry if that was rude, but I do not claim them as mine, it was this skin t/224240 )
But I cannot get them all to work when I play. I can only hear the combobreak sound.
It wasn't a big disappoint to me until today, when I record a replay I played, I can hear them VERY nice. And it just pisses me off
Can any1 help me please?
There's really no reason for them not to work :/ They all work on both my desktop and laptop, are you starting to name them on "comboburst-0"? They should work. Also they're not mine, I took it from another skin after seeing it on several others as well.-Shireishi- wrote:
Hey guys, this is the first time I ever posted anything in osu!forum so please forgive me if there is something wrong with my post, thank you.
I tried some skinning myself (just mixing some skins) and I found one skin with combobursts. As I heard the voice in the combobursts, I immidiately want to apply them in my skin. So I just copy and paste (so sorry if that was rude, but I do not claim them as mine, it was this skin t/224240 )
But I cannot get them all to work when I play. I can only hear the combobreak sound.
It wasn't a big disappoint to me until today, when I record a replay I played, I can hear them VERY nice. And it just pisses me off
Can any1 help me please?
Is anyone able to make/find this hitsound this person has? I dont mind if its something similar but it sounds so awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5FW0F1gQI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5FW0F1gQI4
I think It's Shizuru-'s old Hitsounds...kyjelly wrote:
Is anyone able to make/find this hitsound this person has? I dont mind if its something similar but it sounds so awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5FW0F1gQI4
http://puu.sh/90f2h/eb164caba9.rar
There's an option where You can disable thumbnails in the options menuArcanine wrote:
Are we able to disable thumbnails for a specific skin?
can i ask if someone has this snow default number? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHFMuCW ... -B0qHHCEtQ
I didn't change anything from yoursMilhofo wrote:
There's really no reason for them not to work :/ They all work on both my desktop and laptop, are you starting to name them on "comboburst-0"? They should work. Also they're not mine, I took it from another skin after seeing it on several others as well.
I just copied and pasted, nothing more it's really weird how they do not work while I play, or when I watch replays. But when record it sounds just fine
Topic Starter
Do you have enabled "Use skin's sound samples" in options?-Shireishi- wrote:
I didn't change anything from yoursMilhofo wrote:
There's really no reason for them not to work :/ They all work on both my desktop and laptop, are you starting to name them on "comboburst-0"? They should work. Also they're not mine, I took it from another skin after seeing it on several others as well.
Hey #skinninsupport, I have a custom skin for a mapset. What happens to players using HD skins if my beatmap skin only has SD stuff? Will the player see them or...?
Also I heard some skin.ini commands can be added for the beatmap skins too. How and which ones?
Also I heard some skin.ini commands can be added for the beatmap skins too. How and which ones?