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Vulf
Should you know every role and be able to play it? Yes
Is it mandatory to climb and get diamond or higher? Hell no and more of a hell no.

There are so many one trick ponies in high diamond now that it isn't even an accomplishment anymore.
TKiller
I didn't mean the role diversity. I meant being mindful of your team.
Kanye West
If you don't know how to play every role, you ruin ranked games for everyone else. It's irrelevant as to whether you want to climb or not.
TKiller
There's a very little amount of players who knows how to play all roles and champions at their current ranking level.

All the while, almost everyone knows the basics of all the roles and (though a bit less) champions at their current ranking level.

I fail to see your point.
Vulf

Kanye West wrote:

If you don't know how to play every role, you ruin ranked games for everyone else. It's irrelevant as to whether you want to climb or not.
Which is why you let your team know you are weak at X role. Saying I don't or can't play something is basically saying you don't give a shit about your team and basically forcing them to pick certain things around you.

90% of the time if I was going to be forced into the adc role and I let my team know it was my weakest role they were willing to work around it and let me play something else. Believe it or not people actually want to win ranked most of the time.
Jordan

BrokenArrow wrote:

I want to get a new graphic card too but then my processor would be too bad and slow everything down and in order to get one I'll need a new mainboard and to get enough power for all that I need a better power adapter but I lack money so fuck everything
am I the only one with this kind of problems ;_;
I feel with you
Vulf
It's worth it if you ever decide to upgrade. Just make sure you get stuff that will last several years.

I dumped like $500 into a new gpu, mobo and psu about 5 years ago and it's still going strong on most current games. still 300+ fps on league because it's not a very graphic intensive game.
BrokenArrow
I'd sell my soul for a new pc.
I've been saving up money for quite a while now, but when I see these spoiled kids who have no clue about anything but "lol i can play bf4 on ultra settings xd" getting a 1k€ pc for birthday I just wanna give up.

Anyone here who wants to get eloboosted? I'm a Gold III smurf ready to get you into Challenger, just 10 bucks per division!
AutoMedic

Kanye West wrote:

If you don't know how to play every role, you ruin ranked games for everyone else. It's irrelevant as to whether you want to climb or not.
I agree in this


I can't stress it when people force themselves in Midlane because "idek any roles"

Then dont play ranked if you don't know the five basic fucking roles
Navizel
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/17908

Curse Voice? lolololololololololol
Vulf
Except everyone now has access to timers.
Justykanna

BRBP wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

Well that's a new one for me...
Basically, you said "I'm not going to bot lane" without a reason, you're 3rd pick. It's not hard to believe that someone (Elise) is tired of hearing that in every game.
I generally don't complain about going bottom lane, if I end up being there. You're suppose to announce which roles are your strongest, no? If I have to support or ADC, I do. I just let my team know that they're my weakest. So what's the problem?

Vulf wrote:

As someone who has went from the bottom of silver to diamond you never say you can't play a specific role because that sets people off. If you aren't good at adc or support tell your team it is your "WEAKEST" roles and they will be more willing to work around it.

Vulf wrote:

Which is why you let your team know you are weak at X role. Saying I don't or can't play something is basically saying you don't give a shit about your team and basically forcing them to pick certain things around you.

90% of the time if I was going to be forced into the adc role and I let my team know it was my weakest role they were willing to work around it and let me play something else. Believe it or not people actually want to win ranked most of the time.
I didn't? When did I say I did? Like I said above, if I end up going there, I make sure my team knows it's my weakest (and I use that word).
I've had a lot of people willing to work around my lack of skill in bottom lane.

I don't say I can't play X-role. =s I find that wording more harsh than it needs to be. If I'm pick 5 and I'm stuck with ADC... oh well? I've had a few people at pick 4 willing to go ADC since I'm awful at it - I have 150 ranked games so far this season and have only needed to ADC four times. That's not bad.

Kanye West wrote:

Yeah, don't say, "I prefer this one role, but I can play these other roles".

No. You're playing ranked, you should be able to play every role. Otherwise don't play ranked.
I 'can' do any role. Having five people say 'Fill' would be confusing x.x...
I'm just better at said above three roles than the other two. That's useful info, no? Like I told the others, I NEVER said I couldn't support or ADC.
Vulf
Not saying it is basically the same as saying you can't play it. At least that is how that elise took it.
Hika
I just call my preferred role, which has always been adc, and I don't get shit for it so I don't know what the big deal is. 8)

That Elise sounds like she had a shovel in her ass. np
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Not saying it is basically the same as saying you can't play it. At least that is how that elise took it.
Alright, what's an ideal way to call your role in ranked?
I just use that wording because if I don't get top, people in the lobby know what my 2nd or 3rd best role is.

Hika wrote:

I just call my preferred role, which has always been adc, and I don't get shit for it so I don't know what the big deal is. 8)

That Elise sounds like she had a shovel in her ass. np
I used to just say 'top pref', but I'd get a lot of "do you mind going __", so I figured I'd just save some time lol.
Lol... she sounded like that all game...
TKiller
I had a game some days ago that didn't feel platinum at all.

People not minding anyone's deaths at all, farming for the fights ahead, rotating around the map and objectives, everyone warding around the map (like 6+ pinks on the map at most times and who knows how much greens), baiting for counterganks.

Decided in a single teamfight where I got out of focus anb killed both carries out of position with Akali. Was fairly even before that.

All in complete silence.

Whoa.
Vulf
Probably all chat restricted.

Kayle
Intervention [ R ] - Cooldown is now 110/95/80 seconds (up from 90/75/60)

It finally happened! I hope this makes it to the live servers. :)
Hika

Vulf wrote:

Kayle
Intervention [ R ] - Cooldown is now 110/95/80 seconds (up from 90/75/60)
I literally just got out of bed and got on my knees. I pray to the gods of Riot that this change will be a thing. My hopes are too high now.
Blaziken

TKiller wrote:

I had a game some days ago that didn't feel platinum at all.

People not minding anyone's deaths at all, farming for the fights ahead, rotating around the map and objectives, everyone warding around the map (like 6+ pinks on the map at most times and who knows how much greens), baiting for counterganks.

Decided in a single teamfight where I got out of focus anb killed both carries out of position with Akali. Was fairly even before that.

All in complete silence.

Whoa.
Sounds like EUCS.

Navizel wrote:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/17908

Curse Voice? lolololololololololol
Thought it was a wall of text about the summoner spell so I didn't read.
AutoMedic

Navizel wrote:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/17908

Curse Voice? lolololololololololol
THE TIMERS ARE REAL
Navizel
Definitely my best support pick. Should be around 80% bind

Vulf
Those braum and rengar builds.

I've seen some pretty awful tank Rengars after meteos fed with it in the LCS.
Navizel
I really don't think rengar tank works. He's supposed to assassinate people imo. I'm surprised when Braum built Frozen Heart lol

The game is supposed to be easy but Katarina got fed even though her cs sucks. Good thing I managed to bind her twice so she can't go to the teamfight.


On the other hand, I just dodge a game because of a Zilean troll in champ select. He said Rammus top is a troll and a Rammus is supposed to jungle. I thought these kinds of people only exist in OCE (Disco Heat's League of Children reference). Never been so wrong.
TKiller

Vulf wrote:

Probably all chat restricted.

Kayle
Intervention [ R ] - Cooldown is now 110/95/80 seconds (up from 90/75/60)

It finally happened! I hope this makes it to the live servers. :)
Doubtful considering the post game chat but all's possible. The auto-ban system acts silly more than it doesn't.

The intervention cooldown needs to go up even more. It's still 60 to 48 seconds lategame.

Hope the righteous fury scaling change won't go through though. 0,4 -> 0,2 is really unnecessary.
Fabi
Today was a good day. Little by little im improving, hope to get Challenger again.
Eren Yaeger

TKiller wrote:

Vulf wrote:

Probably all chat restricted.

Kayle
Intervention [ R ] - Cooldown is now 110/95/80 seconds (up from 90/75/60)

It finally happened! I hope this makes it to the live servers. :)
Doubtful considering the post game chat but all's possible. The auto-ban system acts silly more than it doesn't.

The intervention cooldown needs to go up even more. It's still 60 to 48 seconds lategame.

Hope the righteous fury scaling change won't go through though. 0,4 -> 0,2 is really unnecessary.
I agree, but the cooldown should only be longer if it's used on a teammate, if it's used on herself I feel like it should be that 60seconds and maybe 90 for a teammate?
tiper
I feel like it should be that 60seconds and maybe 90 for a teammate?
It's a game changing ultimate ability that must have been already nerfed. It does deserve a hard nerf.
Witch Mercy

Navizel wrote:

Definitely my best support pick. Should be around 80% bind

building tank on rango is so pointless :V
probably need like at least 1-2 dmg items
TKiller
I just feel that they keep forgetting that Kayle is going to have at least 20/25% cooldown reduction and is pretty likely to have even more up to 40% as the game goes.

It'd be a ridiculous mistake to make but their numbers give me this feel.
BrokenArrow
Honestly I feel like instead of nerfing champions like Ziggs or Kayle Riot should adress the thing that actually makes them (and similar poke champs) strong: Cooldown reduction.
Being able to cap your CDR with just 2 items (not even taking runes/masteries into account) is just ridiculous. Does Nashor's Tooth really need 20% CDR to do its purpose? It doesn't.
The thing that makes many ap mids so strong is the fact that they can get 40% CDR very early into the game which increases their dps substantially without sacrificing anything.

Same goes for support items btw.



Armor pen caster build + masteries/runes Varus is op as fuck in ARAM
Vulf
Then there is blue buff.

The problem with nerfing something like Nashors is that it is already mediocre item on almost everything but Kayle. There are the off builds to stuff like Xin and Warwick that use it, but those are far from broken. I think giving Kayle's ulti a hard cap that can't be reduced by CDR would be the way to go instead of nerfing Nashors.
Witch Mercy
Omg all support items except like sight stone gives cdr...that's too much >_>
BrokenArrow
Yeah Nashor's was a bad example, I'm generally talking about CDR being on too many items.
Vulf
I would be fine with them removing CDR completely and adjusting cool downs accordingly.

I think another major problem that stems from the CDR issue is that Mages in general have the best itemization in the game by far to the point most supports can abuse it. Almost everything else has cookie cutter builds with the exception of 2-3 bruisers.
[- Alex -]
Marksman new meta . First item IE ? Wtf.

Lb still broken. She need's a damage nerf , not a silent remove . Rito pls.
BrokenArrow
Apart from her absurd mobility I'd say LeBlanc is pretty balanced as of now.
BT got buffed on the PBE again so it will definitly become a must-have item again. Maybe not as a first pick, but it should be in there somewhere, you can't leave out that extra 10% AD late game.

I want to have more well-designed marksmen such as Draven. His kit feels so perfect for an ADC and a good Draven player can be the most horrifying thing on earth ):
[- Alex -]

BrokenArrow wrote:

Apart from her absurd mobility I'd say LeBlanc is pretty balanced as of now.
BT got buffed on the PBE again so it will definitly become a must-have item again. Maybe not as a first pick, but it should be in there somewhere, you can't leave out that extra 10% AD late game.

I want to have more well-designed marksmen such as Draven. His kit feels so perfect for an ADC and a good Draven player can be the most horrifying thing on earth ):
And then a Lb come and insta kill him.

Draven , yes is very good. Nice damage early with Q , a late monster . But no escape mechanism .... And is this meta with hard CC camp and Burst i think he is useless in team fight without good protection .
Vulf
Mobility will always be a broken stat because Riot never really gave the more mobile champs a trade off for being super mobile and vice-versa. Hence mobility creep.

That new jungle item/changes to SotAG are kinda OP. Wouldn't be surprised if Volibear makes a comback when that item hits live.
TKiller
I'd like to point attention towards the ridiculously underrated 4.10 BotrK-Youmuu's Vayne meanwhile.
Hika

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Marksman new meta . First item IE ? Wtf.
only good for ashe, god bless
Eren Yaeger

Hika wrote:

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Marksman new meta . First item IE ? Wtf.
only good for ashe, god bless
I like how that IE change was an indirect buff to Yasuo, I've loved him from the second I got him so much fun :>
tyrael6192
the real buff here is to critplank. god bless america
[- Alex -]

tyrael6192 wrote:

the real buff here is to critplank. god bless america
Critplank is dead , ap GP FTW!
Jordan
my chat restriction games amount keeps increasing even tho I don't play at all LOL (And I've never flamed to get them in the first place)

Loving the new tribunal :^)
AutoMedic

Hika wrote:

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Marksman new meta . First item IE ? Wtf.
only good for ashe, god bless
GG M8

IMA CRUSH U WITH MASSIVE SLOWS AND CRITS
Witch Mercy

Jordan wrote:

my chat restriction games amount keeps increasing even tho I don't play at all LOL (And I've never flamed to get them in the first place)

Loving the new tribunal :^)
clearly you're being very toxic m8
Vulf
The Skarner nerfs on PBE are both hilarious and depressing.
P r o m i s e s
So they scrapped up the idea of giving BT +10% bonus AD? Aww. I was looking forward to that.
Kanye West
There needs to be an item that gives a ridiculous amount of AD that drops on death, kind of like divine rapier from dota. That'd be sick.
Eren Yaeger
Still working on trying to find someone to get me a Korean league account, no luck so far ;~;

But yeah BT is back to being trash, before I could see a reason to pick it up with that 10% but now that it's gone it seems worthless again
BrokenArrow

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Still working on trying to find someone to get me a Korean league account, no luck so far ;~;

But yeah BT is back to being trash, before I could see a reason to pick it up with that 10% but now that it's gone it seems worthless again
I think they just temporarily reverted the change because the next live patch is hitting soon and it's not yet ready for it yet. Not sure about it though.
Jordan

Graciee wrote:

Jordan wrote:

my chat restriction games amount keeps increasing even tho I don't play at all LOL (And I've never flamed to get them in the first place)

Loving the new tribunal :^)
clearly you're being very toxic m8
I never flame :/ The true sad thing is seeing real toxic players not having chat restriction
BrokenArrow
Can confirm, I am super toxic in most of my ARAM's and all I get is a warning after every single game which never result in an actual chat restriction.
Nofool

kappa

edit:
Aldwych
Meh pl me Nofool! :>
AutoMedic

Nofool wrote:


kappa

edit:
Now proceed to cry in a corner and simultaneously repent for your sins
Nofool

Aldwych wrote:

Meh pl me Nofool! :>
I'm not good enough :c only a dia can pl! hu3

Sonatora wrote:

Now proceed to cry in a corner and simultaneously repent for your sins
I'll just try again untill i kill someone n______n
Backfire

sweg
Aldwych
I'm not good enough :c only a dia can pl! hu3
Then duo queue! /run
tyrael6192
best comment on the faker/dade 1v1

Kanye West
I seriously think Dade and maybe Pawn are both better than Faker. At least, they're both way better in the current meta than Faker is.
Navizel
nth promo to silver 4. oh well

edit: unsuccessful. why am i even trying
tyrael6192
welcome to solo q where 3rd pick forgets to swap his champion with 1st pick because he's too busy playing with his dick, both of them proceed to feed, and 4/13 shyvana tells everyone to die in a fire
BrokenArrow
Haha that reminds me of when I was last pick and was supposed to swap with someone who was in his promos and in the last minute (before switching) I wrote 'brb toilet' in chat. They flamed hard and in the last second I switched with him. In game, he had full AP masteries on Caitlyn and complained the shit out of me the whole game instead of making use of his OP cupcakes.

We lost. Worth it.

Remember kids: Toxcity loses you games. not runes.
Navizel
Another promo. cool!

First game has an afk gragas top

Last promo has a 1/13 twitch. "Feed and troll"

edit: Riven afk on 2nd game

I seriously don't get what's wrong with me and why I'm still playing this. It's only giving me stress
Justykanna

Navizel wrote:

Another promo. cool!

First game has an afk gragas top

Last promo has a 1/13 twitch. "Feed and troll"

edit: Riven afk on 2nd game

I seriously don't get what's wrong with me and why I'm still playing this. It's only giving me stress
According to one of my friends, Fridays and weekends are when "kids" play and it's not a good time to play ranked. Especially with duos who are Gold and Bronze in a Silver game. She has the same type of experience with promos last week.
Not sure how much I believe her though.
Segnaro

Justykanna wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Another promo. cool!

First game has an afk gragas top

Last promo has a 1/13 twitch. "Feed and troll"

edit: Riven afk on 2nd game

I seriously don't get what's wrong with me and why I'm still playing this. It's only giving me stress
According to one of my friends, Fridays and weekends are when "kids" play and it's not a good time to play ranked. Especially with duos who are Gold and Bronze in a Silver game. She has the same type of experience with promos last week.
Not sure how much I believe her though.
If that's the case then summer is completely unsafe.
P r o m i s e s
Lol that's what I was thinking.
Justykanna

Segnaro wrote:

If that's the case then summer is completely unsafe.

P r o m i s e s wrote:

Lol that's what I was thinking.
Lols, it's all a mindset that I don't really think about.
Navizel

Justykanna wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Another promo. cool!

First game has an afk gragas top

Last promo has a 1/13 twitch. "Feed and troll"

edit: Riven afk on 2nd game

I seriously don't get what's wrong with me and why I'm still playing this. It's only giving me stress
According to one of my friends, Fridays and weekends are when "kids" play and it's not a good time to play ranked. Especially with duos who are Gold and Bronze in a Silver game. She has the same type of experience with promos last week.
Not sure how much I believe her though.
I never trusted duos.
Hika
Summer is always unsafe for anyone to play ranked but it's the only time anyone could ever do it...
I don't trust anyone except my duo partner 8-)
Eren Yaeger
The only reason why I play riven in ranked is because I never trust my teammates, if I'm duo with my brother MAYBE I'll go mid but after seeing what my teammates do I will always pick riven top if I get the chance, I need to see a chiropractor after the shit I carry with her.
P r o m i s e s
I don't know why but for the last few weeks I have been performing terrible. I'm losing a lot of matches, I farm bad I can't snowball the lane and the list goes on. Any tips for this? Should I take a break, play more normals, different champions?
Eren Yaeger
Take a very long break, your obviously playing off bad habits and it's coming back to bite you, watch some streams do whatever, read up on league just don't play for awhile then come back playing some normals for a while till you get your confidence back, then duo with a friend before you solo Q.
[- Alex -]
I will never play supp again from this day. 3 games. 1 top , i rekt the enemy Jax 0/7 .

1 game jungler , i was camping my team , 15/3 in the end for me.

1 game supp , win bot , then lose the game because jungler can't gank , enemy Irelia feed as hell , and the mid.

This season you can't carry with supp.
Kanye West
Sure you can. Braum is hella broken. Braum + fed ADC can carry games 2v5 in solo queue.
Navizel
Supports can carry.

My adc sucks so bad and yet I carried her. Kind of snowballed after we got the first blood.
TKiller
I find Morgana better than Braum. She's a lot less reliable in snowballing but in case of your team is feeding she feels like a higher threat when stalling with all the catch potential.

They've both been banned more lately though.
Nofool
Nofool vs bo5 for dia round 2 ;_;


edit : ez

omw challenger
Navizel
grats!

Meanwhile, still stuck on silver V



only normals, first time Janna
carrying a noob adc
Eren Yaeger
Nidd supp is actually really fun I find her quite enjoyable when I do have to supp because you can win your lane so easily with her early damage that most people don't expect.
Witch Mercy

Hika wrote:

Summer is always unsafe for anyone to play ranked but it's the only time anyone could ever do it...
I don't trust anyone except my duo partner 8-)
THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
those
Shouldn't even trust your duo partner.
Justykanna

those wrote:

Shouldn't even trust your duo partner.
I consistently play with the same duo partner and she covers my worst two roles and vic-versa. lol. So it works out nicely for us.
Witch Mercy

those wrote:

Shouldn't even trust your duo partner.
depends
if it's adc/sup duo and you're like best friends or bf/gf then you could probably trust them and have better synergy than playing with randoms
Vulf
I have to smurf to duo with a majority of my friends because they are all between gold and bronze. =\
Diamond life too hard.
[- Alex -]
Jax nerf YEY!

BASE HEALTH 561 ⇒ 535
HEALTH PER LEVEL +98 ⇒ +85
ARMOR PER LEVEL +3.5 ⇒ +3.0

Rly rito?

Lucian ..... yeap

"We have no change for Lucian this patch but wanted to highlight that he's currently high on our list. Specifically in competitive play, Lucian is crowding out almost all other marksman choices (aside from maybe Kog'Maw) due to his high general strengths and lack of meaningful weaknesses (does this sound familiar?). We're currently very aware of Lucian's dominating performance but want to make sure we get the right changes in to give him said weaknesses!"

VERY STRONG Yes ⇒ Still yes

Nidalee buff..... and a big one.

Rip Skarner again , not rly but why the nerf....

My Maokai ap is rekt now.....

And the best part.

Yasuo - E - Sweeping Blade
BONUS DAMAGE CAP 100% at 4 stacks ⇒ 50% at 2 stacks

On the good side , we got new image for Urgot.... yey... well done rito.
Hika

Graciee wrote:

if it's adc/sup duo and you're like best friends or bf/gf then you could probably trust them and have better synergy than playing with randoms
this is so accurate

honestly i don't think i could play ranked with my boyfriend, it would get too distracting so i'd much rather play with a random

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

"We have no change for Lucian this patch but wanted to highlight that he's currently high on our list. Specifically in competitive play, Lucian is crowding out almost all other marksman choices (aside from maybe Kog'Maw) due to his high general strengths and lack of meaningful weaknesses (does this sound familiar?). We're currently very aware of Lucian's dominating performance but want to make sure we get the right changes in to give him said weaknesses!"
you can't be serious right now, it's like no matter how many times i try to play kobe bryant i can't he's so annoying
AutoMedic

WingsOfDeadthX wrote:

Jax nerf YEY!

BASE HEALTH 561 ⇒ 535
HEALTH PER LEVEL +98 ⇒ +85
ARMOR PER LEVEL +3.5 ⇒ +3.0

Rly rito?
They should nerf Counter Strike instead. God that thing is awful
winber1
buff jax pls so i can reach challenger
Witch Mercy
did you see dyrus's thread about jax on the forums
first page was full of comments that were downvoted to oblivion lol
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/bo ... ight=dyrus
Hika

Graciee wrote:

did you see dyrus's thread about jax on the forums
first page was full of comments that were downvoted to oblivion lol
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/bo ... ight=dyrus
10/10 would read again

hahaha i swear these people are just sucking dyrus' dick though
Aldwych
nice one lel
Hika
actually the entire thread is literally downvotes hahaha this is one of the best things i've seen today
tyrael6192
Vulf

Graciee wrote:

did you see dyrus's thread about jax on the forums
first page was full of comments that were downvoted to oblivion lol
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/bo ... ight=dyrus
That thread is over 2 years old. =\
Eren Yaeger
RIP in peace Kayle, she does 0 damage but her ult is still ok. Should revert the dmg nerf and nerf the ult more honestly. And Yasuo early dmg isn't too strong meaning I can get bullied out of lane pretty easy due to no way to harass back. My brother is liking the jungler tank buff as he just picked up Elise c:
ztrot
be warned of new patch causing drops.
Vulf

Eren Yaeger wrote:

RIP in peace Kayle, she does 0 damage but her ult is still ok. Should revert the dmg nerf and nerf the ult more honestly. And Yasuo early dmg isn't too strong meaning I can get bullied out of lane pretty easy due to no way to harass back. My brother is liking the jungler tank buff as he just picked up Elise c:
Good! DESERVED!! Pretty much no one is going to miss her.



My brain. My eyes. Those builds. I usually have to duo with someone to get matched with people like this.
I should probably stop playing normals and try to get my Warwick only account to diamond. :(
Witch Mercy

ztrot wrote:

be warned of new patch causing drops.
rip
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