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Fabi
Also Lucian.
P r o m i s e s

Hika wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Is Youmuu worth a buy on adc or Last Whisper is still the better choice for armor penetration?

edit: just noticed youmuu is 2.7k while lw is 2.3k so i guess this is a dumb (?) question
wtf people actually buy the former???????????
I always buy Youmuu's on Riven. She is already really mobile and with Youmuu's she's even more mobile. It also gives a little crit chance, which is nice.
ReVeNg3r
[Agito]

Navizel wrote:

Is Youmuu worth a buy on adc or Last Whisper is still the better choice for armor penetration?

edit: just noticed youmuu is 2.7k while lw is 2.3k so i guess this is a dumb (?) question
Pretty nice on Twitch and Quinn, if youre ahead of course, otherwise I'd prefer LW. Not sure about the other AD carries, just seems to not scale well with alot of them, possible draven? Havent played him much but the movement speed with his w , and attack speed would be nice for him I guess.
[- Alex -]

ReVeNg3r wrote:


I know the feel...
Witch Mercy

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Lol troll or troll.
P r o m i s e s
I'm in my promo's to platinum owo. I hope all goes well.
Feast
Gl, It's not hard to get, just focus & carry your games :P
Hika
A few hours ago Riot decided to fuck up during a ranked game.

Surprisingly, the enemy team lagged just as hard as we did and we were always closer to dragon when we did lag so we made a comeback just stealing dragon every time it spawned. The server was too unstable during the game and I was hoping I'd get into my promos, but I ended up with 98LP. Troll. Very much troll.

rito pls
noneed_old

Hika wrote:

A few hours ago Riot decided to fuck up during a ranked game.

Surprisingly, the enemy team lagged just as hard as we did and we were always closer to dragon when we did lag so we made a comeback just stealing dragon every time it spawned. The server was too unstable during the game and I was hoping I'd get into my promos, but I ended up with 98LP. Troll. Very much troll.

rito pls
tell your team to buy banner of command and win that way.
Justykanna
Why does everyone call Riot, 'Rito'? I see it everywhere. o_O
Vulf
Kinda looking forward to patch 4.11
http://community.na.leagueoflegends.com ... h-forecast

Better jungle tank itemization (that will probably be abused by bruisers).
Nerfs to Kayle (gut the shit out of that ulti pls).

My PBE account is ready! :)
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Kinda looking forward to patch 4.11
http://community.na.leagueoflegends.com ... h-forecast

Better jungle tank itemization (that will probably be abused by bruisers).
Nerfs to Kayle (gut the shit out of that ulti pls).

My PBE account is ready! :)
I'm all for it if it means different items for my Maokai. =)
[- Alex -]
I just want to play Maokai ap mid..... To broken.
Vulf
Pretty sure it said jungle specific item and champion buffs. God forbid they give something like top lane shyvana better tank itemization.

I'm pretty sure they could actually unerf Warmogs since they buffed the crap out of the % damage on bork.
Eren Yaeger
I just hope they don't nerf Yasuo too hard :( Kayle ult can get gutted for all I care she's just fun to play IMO without the ult anyway. But I think they're just looking at just jung tank items and they're trying to stay away from non junglers picking them up from what I read.
Vulf
Not worried about laners picking them up if they are jungle specific.

Problem is if a tank jungler can benefit from it a bruiser jungler can equally if not abuse it more. This is why SoAG got nerfed to shit.
Which is why I'm really curious on how they are going to approach this because I don't have the slightest idea. xD

There should be a PBE patch later today.
Eren Yaeger
I would love to get on the PBE and see what they do to Yas and Kayle, I main both of them so I'm nervous D:
Kanye West

Vulf wrote:

Not worried about laners picking them up if they are jungle specific.

Problem is if a tank jungler can benefit from it a bruiser jungler can equally if not abuse it more. This is why SoAG got nerfed to shit.
Which is why I'm really curious on how they are going to approach this because I don't have the slightest idea. xD

There should be a PBE patch later today.
Probably by nerfing bruisers to oblivion tbh.
P r o m i s e s
OMG I DID IT! I'M PLATINUM ASDFGHJKL

Vulf

Kanye West wrote:

Probably by nerfing bruisers to oblivion tbh.
In a way that would help at least make them more favorable, but It won't be enough to bring tank junglers back because people would just keep playing Kha'Zix, Elise, and Lee sin over them. I know Lee Sin is a bruiser, but I doubt they will touch him after the shit storm on reddit when they wanted to rework him a few months ago.

Anyways not all bruisers are an issue it's the ones that have overloaded kits in combo with tank junglers having shitty itemization (some with terrible clear speeds) in the jungle. Maokai, Amumu, and Nautilus are more than capable of competing with the more balanced (weaker) bruisers junglers like Warwick, Volibear, and Udyr. Problem is stuff like Vi and Lee do everything a tank jungler wants to do but way better.

Itemization is a good start and hopefully they can make something that isn't favorable on stuff like Vi and Lee because that will just create more problems.
Eren Yaeger
Hopefully they won't run with the idea of having so many tank stats = % more MS like they were talking about in the comments, that would just make things stupid for champs like lee sin who would just get super tanky and still do damage with something like a last whisper.
Vulf
I read that last night and facepalmed so hard. LOL

In order for something like that to work without being heavily abused by a bruiser it would literally have to give no stats outside of the passive/machete passive.
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Vulf wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

Probably by nerfing bruisers to oblivion tbh.
In a way that would help at least make them more favorable, but It won't be enough to bring tank junglers back because people would just keep playing Kha'Zix, Elise, and Lee sin over them. I know Lee Sin is a bruiser, but I doubt they will touch him after the shit storm on reddit when they wanted to rework him a few months ago.

Anyways not all bruisers are an issue it's the ones that have overloaded kits in combo with tank junglers having shitty itemization (some with terrible clear speeds) in the jungle. Maokai, Amumu, and Nautilus are more than capable of competing with the more balanced (weaker) bruisers junglers like Warwick, Volibear, and Udyr. Problem is stuff like Vi and Lee do everything a tank jungler wants to do but way better.

Itemization is a good start and hopefully they can make something that isn't favorable on stuff like Vi and Lee because that will just create more problems.
Nerf Kha'Zix and Lee Sin is a pretty bad idea. Once they got massively nerfed, they are useless. Once they are buffed, they are too OP. An unstable kit. I presume
Vulf
Kha'zix just got nerfed and Lee sin is immune so...
P r o m i s e s
Oh cool, looks like Maokai got a small buff to his ult in the PBE. His ult is now attached to Maokai. Instead of being cast on an area and sticking there. Now it's following him as he moves around
BrokenArrow
DFG Maokai masterrace
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It's Maokai Time!!!

Maokai is love
[- Alex -]
I play Maokai since beta (since season 3-4 actually)

RITO PLS , we need the dream , Maokai ap new meta.

And welcome to hell P r o m i s e s . Gl.
Kanye West
But guys, AD Maokai's been OP the whole time...

Fabi
This is the only way to play Maokai.

Blaziken
I just bought a GT 630 for price of a video game on the highstreet and now I can max this game. I should of done this sooner... >_>
BrokenArrow
I want to get a new graphic card too but then my processor would be too bad and slow everything down and in order to get one I'll need a new mainboard and to get enough power for all that I need a better power adapter but I lack money so fuck everything
am I the only one with this kind of problems ;_;
Fabi
Im on a CRT 17'
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Fabi wrote:

Im on a CRT 17'
CRT are for hipsters

Fight me.
Navizel
P r o m i s e s

BrokenArrow wrote:

I want to get a new graphic card too but then my processor would be too bad and slow everything down and in order to get one I'll need a new mainboard and to get enough power for all that I need a better power adapter but I lack money so fuck everything
am I the only one with this kind of problems ;_;
I have the exact same problem
TrinitehFoarse
FIRST PENTAAAAAAH!
Witch Mercy

BrokenArrow wrote:

I want to get a new graphic card too but then my processor would be too bad and slow everything down and in order to get one I'll need a new mainboard and to get enough power for all that I need a better power adapter but I lack money so fuck everything
am I the only one with this kind of problems ;_;
I had this for problem for like 5 to 6 plus years.
Then I finally manned up and saved up some money from my part time jobs and built my current comp.
Life is good now >w<
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Hey guys, I'm planning to map Pentakill - Lightbringer once my current project is done
Justykanna
Well that's a new one for me...
Hika

Sonatora wrote:

Hey guys, I'm planning to map Pentakill - Lightbringer once my current project is done
DFG or Ohmwrecker pls
Backfire

ty for carry tbte
Blaziken

Hika wrote:

Sonatora wrote:

Hey guys, I'm planning to map Pentakill - Lightbringer once my current project is done
DFG or Ohmwrecker pls
Orb of Winter pls
BrokenArrow
Pentakill is overrated.
*runs*
VoidnOwO
:)
Vulf
As someone who has went from the bottom of silver to diamond you never say you can't play a specific role because that sets people off. If you aren't good at adc or support tell your team it is your "WEAKEST" roles and they will be more willing to work around it.
Kanye West
Yeah, don't say, "I prefer this one role, but I can play these other roles".

No. You're playing ranked, you should be able to play every role. Otherwise don't play ranked.
TKiller
That is, if you give a fuck about your rank. And not just for this specific game but overall.
Vulf
Should you know every role and be able to play it? Yes
Is it mandatory to climb and get diamond or higher? Hell no and more of a hell no.

There are so many one trick ponies in high diamond now that it isn't even an accomplishment anymore.
TKiller
I didn't mean the role diversity. I meant being mindful of your team.
Kanye West
If you don't know how to play every role, you ruin ranked games for everyone else. It's irrelevant as to whether you want to climb or not.
TKiller
There's a very little amount of players who knows how to play all roles and champions at their current ranking level.

All the while, almost everyone knows the basics of all the roles and (though a bit less) champions at their current ranking level.

I fail to see your point.
Vulf

Kanye West wrote:

If you don't know how to play every role, you ruin ranked games for everyone else. It's irrelevant as to whether you want to climb or not.
Which is why you let your team know you are weak at X role. Saying I don't or can't play something is basically saying you don't give a shit about your team and basically forcing them to pick certain things around you.

90% of the time if I was going to be forced into the adc role and I let my team know it was my weakest role they were willing to work around it and let me play something else. Believe it or not people actually want to win ranked most of the time.
Jordan

BrokenArrow wrote:

I want to get a new graphic card too but then my processor would be too bad and slow everything down and in order to get one I'll need a new mainboard and to get enough power for all that I need a better power adapter but I lack money so fuck everything
am I the only one with this kind of problems ;_;
I feel with you
Vulf
It's worth it if you ever decide to upgrade. Just make sure you get stuff that will last several years.

I dumped like $500 into a new gpu, mobo and psu about 5 years ago and it's still going strong on most current games. still 300+ fps on league because it's not a very graphic intensive game.
BrokenArrow
I'd sell my soul for a new pc.
I've been saving up money for quite a while now, but when I see these spoiled kids who have no clue about anything but "lol i can play bf4 on ultra settings xd" getting a 1k€ pc for birthday I just wanna give up.

Anyone here who wants to get eloboosted? I'm a Gold III smurf ready to get you into Challenger, just 10 bucks per division!
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Kanye West wrote:

If you don't know how to play every role, you ruin ranked games for everyone else. It's irrelevant as to whether you want to climb or not.
I agree in this


I can't stress it when people force themselves in Midlane because "idek any roles"

Then dont play ranked if you don't know the five basic fucking roles
Navizel
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/17908

Curse Voice? lolololololololololol
Vulf
Except everyone now has access to timers.
Justykanna

BRBP wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

Well that's a new one for me...
Basically, you said "I'm not going to bot lane" without a reason, you're 3rd pick. It's not hard to believe that someone (Elise) is tired of hearing that in every game.
I generally don't complain about going bottom lane, if I end up being there. You're suppose to announce which roles are your strongest, no? If I have to support or ADC, I do. I just let my team know that they're my weakest. So what's the problem?

Vulf wrote:

As someone who has went from the bottom of silver to diamond you never say you can't play a specific role because that sets people off. If you aren't good at adc or support tell your team it is your "WEAKEST" roles and they will be more willing to work around it.

Vulf wrote:

Which is why you let your team know you are weak at X role. Saying I don't or can't play something is basically saying you don't give a shit about your team and basically forcing them to pick certain things around you.

90% of the time if I was going to be forced into the adc role and I let my team know it was my weakest role they were willing to work around it and let me play something else. Believe it or not people actually want to win ranked most of the time.
I didn't? When did I say I did? Like I said above, if I end up going there, I make sure my team knows it's my weakest (and I use that word).
I've had a lot of people willing to work around my lack of skill in bottom lane.

I don't say I can't play X-role. =s I find that wording more harsh than it needs to be. If I'm pick 5 and I'm stuck with ADC... oh well? I've had a few people at pick 4 willing to go ADC since I'm awful at it - I have 150 ranked games so far this season and have only needed to ADC four times. That's not bad.

Kanye West wrote:

Yeah, don't say, "I prefer this one role, but I can play these other roles".

No. You're playing ranked, you should be able to play every role. Otherwise don't play ranked.
I 'can' do any role. Having five people say 'Fill' would be confusing x.x...
I'm just better at said above three roles than the other two. That's useful info, no? Like I told the others, I NEVER said I couldn't support or ADC.
Vulf
Not saying it is basically the same as saying you can't play it. At least that is how that elise took it.
Hika
I just call my preferred role, which has always been adc, and I don't get shit for it so I don't know what the big deal is. 8)

That Elise sounds like she had a shovel in her ass. np
Justykanna

Vulf wrote:

Not saying it is basically the same as saying you can't play it. At least that is how that elise took it.
Alright, what's an ideal way to call your role in ranked?
I just use that wording because if I don't get top, people in the lobby know what my 2nd or 3rd best role is.

Hika wrote:

I just call my preferred role, which has always been adc, and I don't get shit for it so I don't know what the big deal is. 8)

That Elise sounds like she had a shovel in her ass. np
I used to just say 'top pref', but I'd get a lot of "do you mind going __", so I figured I'd just save some time lol.
Lol... she sounded like that all game...
TKiller
I had a game some days ago that didn't feel platinum at all.

People not minding anyone's deaths at all, farming for the fights ahead, rotating around the map and objectives, everyone warding around the map (like 6+ pinks on the map at most times and who knows how much greens), baiting for counterganks.

Decided in a single teamfight where I got out of focus anb killed both carries out of position with Akali. Was fairly even before that.

All in complete silence.

Whoa.
Vulf
Probably all chat restricted.

Kayle
Intervention [ R ] - Cooldown is now 110/95/80 seconds (up from 90/75/60)

It finally happened! I hope this makes it to the live servers. :)
Hika

Vulf wrote:

Kayle
Intervention [ R ] - Cooldown is now 110/95/80 seconds (up from 90/75/60)
I literally just got out of bed and got on my knees. I pray to the gods of Riot that this change will be a thing. My hopes are too high now.
Blaziken

TKiller wrote:

I had a game some days ago that didn't feel platinum at all.

People not minding anyone's deaths at all, farming for the fights ahead, rotating around the map and objectives, everyone warding around the map (like 6+ pinks on the map at most times and who knows how much greens), baiting for counterganks.

Decided in a single teamfight where I got out of focus anb killed both carries out of position with Akali. Was fairly even before that.

All in complete silence.

Whoa.
Sounds like EUCS.

Navizel wrote:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/17908

Curse Voice? lolololololololololol
Thought it was a wall of text about the summoner spell so I didn't read.
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Navizel wrote:

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/17908

Curse Voice? lolololololololololol
THE TIMERS ARE REAL
Navizel
Definitely my best support pick. Should be around 80% bind

Vulf
Those braum and rengar builds.

I've seen some pretty awful tank Rengars after meteos fed with it in the LCS.
Navizel
I really don't think rengar tank works. He's supposed to assassinate people imo. I'm surprised when Braum built Frozen Heart lol

The game is supposed to be easy but Katarina got fed even though her cs sucks. Good thing I managed to bind her twice so she can't go to the teamfight.


On the other hand, I just dodge a game because of a Zilean troll in champ select. He said Rammus top is a troll and a Rammus is supposed to jungle. I thought these kinds of people only exist in OCE (Disco Heat's League of Children reference). Never been so wrong.
TKiller

Vulf wrote:

Probably all chat restricted.

Kayle
Intervention [ R ] - Cooldown is now 110/95/80 seconds (up from 90/75/60)

It finally happened! I hope this makes it to the live servers. :)
Doubtful considering the post game chat but all's possible. The auto-ban system acts silly more than it doesn't.

The intervention cooldown needs to go up even more. It's still 60 to 48 seconds lategame.

Hope the righteous fury scaling change won't go through though. 0,4 -> 0,2 is really unnecessary.
Fabi
Today was a good day. Little by little im improving, hope to get Challenger again.
Eren Yaeger

TKiller wrote:

Vulf wrote:

Probably all chat restricted.

Kayle
Intervention [ R ] - Cooldown is now 110/95/80 seconds (up from 90/75/60)

It finally happened! I hope this makes it to the live servers. :)
Doubtful considering the post game chat but all's possible. The auto-ban system acts silly more than it doesn't.

The intervention cooldown needs to go up even more. It's still 60 to 48 seconds lategame.

Hope the righteous fury scaling change won't go through though. 0,4 -> 0,2 is really unnecessary.
I agree, but the cooldown should only be longer if it's used on a teammate, if it's used on herself I feel like it should be that 60seconds and maybe 90 for a teammate?
tiper
I feel like it should be that 60seconds and maybe 90 for a teammate?
It's a game changing ultimate ability that must have been already nerfed. It does deserve a hard nerf.
Witch Mercy

Navizel wrote:

Definitely my best support pick. Should be around 80% bind

building tank on rango is so pointless :V
probably need like at least 1-2 dmg items
TKiller
I just feel that they keep forgetting that Kayle is going to have at least 20/25% cooldown reduction and is pretty likely to have even more up to 40% as the game goes.

It'd be a ridiculous mistake to make but their numbers give me this feel.
BrokenArrow
Honestly I feel like instead of nerfing champions like Ziggs or Kayle Riot should adress the thing that actually makes them (and similar poke champs) strong: Cooldown reduction.
Being able to cap your CDR with just 2 items (not even taking runes/masteries into account) is just ridiculous. Does Nashor's Tooth really need 20% CDR to do its purpose? It doesn't.
The thing that makes many ap mids so strong is the fact that they can get 40% CDR very early into the game which increases their dps substantially without sacrificing anything.

Same goes for support items btw.



Armor pen caster build + masteries/runes Varus is op as fuck in ARAM
Vulf
Then there is blue buff.

The problem with nerfing something like Nashors is that it is already mediocre item on almost everything but Kayle. There are the off builds to stuff like Xin and Warwick that use it, but those are far from broken. I think giving Kayle's ulti a hard cap that can't be reduced by CDR would be the way to go instead of nerfing Nashors.
Witch Mercy
Omg all support items except like sight stone gives cdr...that's too much >_>
BrokenArrow
Yeah Nashor's was a bad example, I'm generally talking about CDR being on too many items.
Vulf
I would be fine with them removing CDR completely and adjusting cool downs accordingly.

I think another major problem that stems from the CDR issue is that Mages in general have the best itemization in the game by far to the point most supports can abuse it. Almost everything else has cookie cutter builds with the exception of 2-3 bruisers.
[- Alex -]
Marksman new meta . First item IE ? Wtf.

Lb still broken. She need's a damage nerf , not a silent remove . Rito pls.
BrokenArrow
Apart from her absurd mobility I'd say LeBlanc is pretty balanced as of now.
BT got buffed on the PBE again so it will definitly become a must-have item again. Maybe not as a first pick, but it should be in there somewhere, you can't leave out that extra 10% AD late game.

I want to have more well-designed marksmen such as Draven. His kit feels so perfect for an ADC and a good Draven player can be the most horrifying thing on earth ):
[- Alex -]

BrokenArrow wrote:

Apart from her absurd mobility I'd say LeBlanc is pretty balanced as of now.
BT got buffed on the PBE again so it will definitly become a must-have item again. Maybe not as a first pick, but it should be in there somewhere, you can't leave out that extra 10% AD late game.

I want to have more well-designed marksmen such as Draven. His kit feels so perfect for an ADC and a good Draven player can be the most horrifying thing on earth ):
And then a Lb come and insta kill him.

Draven , yes is very good. Nice damage early with Q , a late monster . But no escape mechanism .... And is this meta with hard CC camp and Burst i think he is useless in team fight without good protection .
Vulf
Mobility will always be a broken stat because Riot never really gave the more mobile champs a trade off for being super mobile and vice-versa. Hence mobility creep.

That new jungle item/changes to SotAG are kinda OP. Wouldn't be surprised if Volibear makes a comback when that item hits live.
TKiller
I'd like to point attention towards the ridiculously underrated 4.10 BotrK-Youmuu's Vayne meanwhile.
Hika

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Marksman new meta . First item IE ? Wtf.
only good for ashe, god bless
Eren Yaeger

Hika wrote:

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Marksman new meta . First item IE ? Wtf.
only good for ashe, god bless
I like how that IE change was an indirect buff to Yasuo, I've loved him from the second I got him so much fun :>
tyrael6192
the real buff here is to critplank. god bless america
[- Alex -]

tyrael6192 wrote:

the real buff here is to critplank. god bless america
Critplank is dead , ap GP FTW!
Jordan
my chat restriction games amount keeps increasing even tho I don't play at all LOL (And I've never flamed to get them in the first place)

Loving the new tribunal :^)
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Hika wrote:

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Marksman new meta . First item IE ? Wtf.
only good for ashe, god bless
GG M8

IMA CRUSH U WITH MASSIVE SLOWS AND CRITS
Witch Mercy

Jordan wrote:

my chat restriction games amount keeps increasing even tho I don't play at all LOL (And I've never flamed to get them in the first place)

Loving the new tribunal :^)
clearly you're being very toxic m8
Vulf
The Skarner nerfs on PBE are both hilarious and depressing.
P r o m i s e s
So they scrapped up the idea of giving BT +10% bonus AD? Aww. I was looking forward to that.
Kanye West
There needs to be an item that gives a ridiculous amount of AD that drops on death, kind of like divine rapier from dota. That'd be sick.
Eren Yaeger
Still working on trying to find someone to get me a Korean league account, no luck so far ;~;

But yeah BT is back to being trash, before I could see a reason to pick it up with that 10% but now that it's gone it seems worthless again
BrokenArrow

Eren Yaeger wrote:

Still working on trying to find someone to get me a Korean league account, no luck so far ;~;

But yeah BT is back to being trash, before I could see a reason to pick it up with that 10% but now that it's gone it seems worthless again
I think they just temporarily reverted the change because the next live patch is hitting soon and it's not yet ready for it yet. Not sure about it though.
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