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Correct me if I'm wrong, but he's busy focusing other modes than mania. lolArcherLove wrote:
you forget https://osu.ppy.sh/u/394326 <-- this guy ..
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i love how vocal o!m people are, brings tears to my eye (only the one)
if i become BAT, ill rank every retard hard map ever made
#BassistVinyl2014
#BassistVinyl2014
lol
I am very glad to see someone has addressed this. I was considering making a post about this myself but you beat me to it.Tear wrote:
There's been no mania BAT activity for a few weeks now. [Shi-ra] resigned, Roxas and PROGUY are inactive, there's only Charles445 who's also a standard BAT so he's very busy. We need 2 BATs to get a map ranked, and 3 to get it approved. (+1 if a BAT himself wanted to get a map ranked/approved)
What can we do about that? Is there someone we can message about this among osu! staff?
Rumia- lemme kiss u bby-Kamikaze- wrote:
Actually we were discussing that yesterday on #osumania andWhich is true if all of them would be 100% active, which is impossible.Loctav wrote:
we have 4 mania BATs
thats enough for rankingYeah, there are few worth mentioningLoctav wrote:
find me proper candidates that do not shit on our community rules
REDYUMiKA
Simple_Star
Reikosaka lets get be together reikosaka-sama
Kuo Kyoka i will start being true to myself senpai
arcwinolivirus
Entozer
Skalim
yoshilove moe overdose
I could name potential BAT's all day.
Rumia, Yumika (if he/she could show less of his/her intent of becoming BAT openly lol), Simple_Star, arcwin are all ok candidates. I either don't see the others fitting the role enough or simply don't know them enough.
Ento is not mentionned since he quit being BAT quite a while ago.
I could see Agka as BAT as well but hey, I highly doubt he agrees to be BAT. Requesting him for the role would already be quite a feat lol.
Drace too but he's given up on o!m long ago
Ento is not mentionned since he quit being BAT quite a while ago.
I could see Agka as BAT as well but hey, I highly doubt he agrees to be BAT. Requesting him for the role would already be quite a feat lol.
Drace too but he's given up on o!m long ago
we need batman
More BATs who are not qualified enough can lead to less maps with quality. Searching for BATs is not as easy as someone might thing, especially when it is about finding BATs who are active. But well, mania is not the mode where I know the community the best.ishimaru94 wrote:
more BATs, faster ranking \:D/
Anyway, you should try contacting Loctav(or the other BATm such as Charles) and suggest candidates with well founded reasons.
I doubt that discussing here for a long time will help much more.
Aqo wrote:
we need batman
First one to map this becomes a BATegas00 wrote:
lol that what's agka said . but well BATman !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vv0tpfr1Tk
why find new bats if the mode needs to be reworked anyway
why posting here if you dont even play this gamemodeLust wrote:
why find new bats if the mode needs to be reworked anyway
Loctav wrote:
why posting here if you dont even play this gamemodeLust wrote:
why find new bats if the mode needs to be reworked anyway
HAHAHAHAHA XDLoctav wrote:
why posting here if you dont even play this gamemodeLust wrote:
why find new bats if the mode needs to be reworked anyway
well, just disscussion is importan too =w=)b
so what if i dont play this game mode as often as the others (i dont really play anyway), mania is still part of the game i loveLoctav wrote:
why posting here if you dont even play this gamemodeLust wrote:
why find new bats if the mode needs to be reworked anyway
its like liking a movie, sure im not in it but i enjoy talking about it
I definitely agree that finding BATs is much harder than people seem to think. It takes a lot of time and dedication to be a BAT, and that's on top of everything else. The mania community is pretty short on qualified people, to be honest, so it's hardly a surprise that we have so few BATs, but now things are beginning to be a problem.OnosakiHito wrote:
More BATs who are not qualified enough can lead to less maps with quality. Searching for BATs is not as easy as someone might thing, especially when it is about finding BATs who are active. But well, mania is not the mode where I know the community the best.ishimaru94 wrote:
more BATs, faster ranking \:D/
Anyway, you should try contacting Loctav(or the other BATm such as Charles) and suggest candidates with well founded reasons.
I doubt that discussing here for a long time will help much more.
However, there's one thing you said that I disagree with. I believe that its important to let us discuss things like this on the forum. Even if discussion can't magically solve the problem, it helps by giving players somewhere that they can voice their opinion on the matter (as long as they feel that everyone's opinion has equal weight).
Of course, that's not to say that topics like this shouldn't be moderated (they definitely should, shitposts should not be allowed in topics like this (and there are a few here), and anyone caught making them should have their post deleted, and at least receive some sort of warning), but should be freely available for people to discuss these sort of issues in a civil manner.
It's more of a surprise that you guys used to have 7 that were active; us Taiko people almost always had the bare minimum (not 4 as Loctav thinks but 5 imo, there's an aspect of a BAT mapset for approval getting popped once which require: 1 BAT for the map, 1 BAT for Bub1, 1 to pop it and rebub, 1 to Bub2, and one to rank). It's been the same for us in TWC (we had like zero available as many of the BAT were playing; or Ono as map-sel had to prepare shit so no time to mod and Kana was totally AFK), so for MWC you may expect the same.
Now as people have said, find good candidates; make an internal discussion or whatever so you all agree on who could be one (doing it in #spectator helps a lot as you don't pollute #osumania and spoil everything ever), and send submissions to Loctav or Charles445 or whoever is qualified enough to say if yes or no they're suitable for this position.
I said it in my previous post, people have to be active and regular(I'm watching them...), be clean (No point in giving people BATship if they shit on the CR as Loc said), and get 'noticed'.
Now as people have said, find good candidates; make an internal discussion or whatever so you all agree on who could be one (doing it in #spectator helps a lot as you don't pollute #osumania and spoil everything ever), and send submissions to Loctav or Charles445 or whoever is qualified enough to say if yes or no they're suitable for this position.
I said it in my previous post, people have to be active and regular(I'm watching them...), be clean (No point in giving people BATship if they shit on the CR as Loc said), and get 'noticed'.
point being you don't know shit if you think the gamemode needs "reworking", nothing moreLust wrote:
so what if i dont play this game mode as often as the others (i dont really play anyway), mania is still part of the game i love
its like liking a movie, sure im not in it but i enjoy talking about it
lol?CephiCC wrote:
point being you don't know shit if you think the gamemode needs "reworking", nothing moreLust wrote:
so what if i dont play this game mode as often as the others (i dont really play anyway), mania is still part of the game i love
its like liking a movie, sure im not in it but i enjoy talking about it
At least define "reworking". :/
Anyways that's off-topic.
I see PROGUY has logged in today. I SEE HOPE.
Anyways that's off-topic.
I see PROGUY has logged in today. I SEE HOPE.
i'd rather have a few non-perfect bats rather than.. well... no bats
not everyone can be a Charles
mania can't afford the luxury of searching for perfect candidates, it needs people that have the motivation to push it forward, even when those people do mistakes every now and then
not everyone can be a Charles
mania can't afford the luxury of searching for perfect candidates, it needs people that have the motivation to push it forward, even when those people do mistakes every now and then
This ^
BATs are not required to be perfect and having flawless mapping knowledge. They can always ask for playtests and opinions from trusty,, non-biased, high-level players to help them in some cases, which has already been done many times before.
Finding potential BATs isn't hard; I feel like the issue comes from the amount of work which awaits the BATs, they become easily overloaded (Shi-Ra) even though they take their role very seriously, and then leave.
O!m just needs a few more BATs to take on all the requests, and they should know they can rely on the community to help them. Noone can do everything alone. (Hopefully modding v2 can achieve this goal).
I'm sure BATmanagers have already some people in their minds for the role. I'd say, even though it might be risky, nominating them and making them go through an evaluation period where both mappers/modders and the staff give their judgement on the newly appointed BATs. It's kind of a radical solution but the more we keep waiting, the more requests are accumulating. We can't rely on Charles and kanpankyin forever and ever.
BATs are not required to be perfect and having flawless mapping knowledge. They can always ask for playtests and opinions from trusty,, non-biased, high-level players to help them in some cases, which has already been done many times before.
Finding potential BATs isn't hard; I feel like the issue comes from the amount of work which awaits the BATs, they become easily overloaded (Shi-Ra) even though they take their role very seriously, and then leave.
O!m just needs a few more BATs to take on all the requests, and they should know they can rely on the community to help them. Noone can do everything alone. (Hopefully modding v2 can achieve this goal).
I'm sure BATmanagers have already some people in their minds for the role. I'd say, even though it might be risky, nominating them and making them go through an evaluation period where both mappers/modders and the staff give their judgement on the newly appointed BATs. It's kind of a radical solution but the more we keep waiting, the more requests are accumulating. We can't rely on Charles and kanpankyin forever and ever.
Modding v2? H'what?PyaKura wrote:
This ^
BATs are not required to be perfect and having flawless mapping knowledge. They can always ask for playtests and opinions from trusty,, non-biased, high-level players to help them in some cases, which has already been done many times before.
Finding potential BATs isn't hard; I feel like the issue comes from the amount of work which awaits the BATs, they become easily overloaded (Shi-Ra) even though they take their role very seriously, and then leave.
O!m just needs a few more BATs to take on all the requests, and they should know they can rely on the community to help them. Noone can do everything alone. (Hopefully modding v2 can achieve this goal).
I'm sure BATmanagers have already some people in their minds for the role. I'd say, even though it might be risky, nominating them and making them go through an evaluation period where both mappers/modders and the staff give their judgement on the newly appointed BATs. It's kind of a radical solution but the more we keep waiting, the more requests are accumulating. We can't rely on Charles and kanpankyin forever and ever.
WELL, THANK GOD FOR THAT.Zare wrote:
not everyone can be a Charles
New ranking/modding system developmentCephiCC wrote:
Modding v2? H'what?
Seems 1 of o!m BATs come back.
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omg i'm in a movie!Lust wrote:
so what if i dont play this game mode as often as the others (i dont really play anyway), mania is still part of the game i love
its like liking a movie, sure im not in it but i enjoy talking about it
And I'd like to point out that even with PROGUY and Charles it's still impossible to get a marathon approved...
No more maps ;w;
well there IS kanpankyin but I feel guilty about asking people who've gotta mod and bub and rank modes which aren't their specialtyTear wrote:
omg i'm in a movie!Lust wrote:
so what if i dont play this game mode as often as the others (i dont really play anyway), mania is still part of the game i love
its like liking a movie, sure im not in it but i enjoy talking about it
And I'd like to point out that even with PROGUY and Charles it's still impossible to get a marathon approved...
I'd like a marathon map. Or at least something to help train more. I've been looking for something that would train me. Like, a program that would, based on PP, give me a regimen and tracks to play. But with so little ranked maps, it'd be hard. Or just marathon training maps in the least.
Wrong thread bro
couple people were talking about marathon maps, I just shared what I thought on them lol. It'd be nice to see at least you know, one, ranked.
Well there are two of them I believe. But well, not really marathon as in 10 minutes+.
On a side note (huehue) ROXAS'S ONLINE.
On a side note (huehue) ROXAS'S ONLINE.
RANK END TIME NOW /me runsPyaKura wrote:
ROXAS'S ONLINE.
Side note #2 PROGUY has been online and ranking maps recently \o/
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