Justykanna wrote:

Well, saying x-champion isn't good isn't the solution either. I've always been taught to stick to a small pool of champions and those four happen to be my top laners because I like using them and I'm comfortable with them. Five if you include Garen. Changing the champions to use all the time just because they're good in the meta, without having much skill isn't 'really' a solid solution, is it? =/
Especially after telling me "don't pick Gangplank at all" when he's far and away my favourite champion.
Okay, so stay under turrets, avoid engages during all of laning phase? Wouldn't that be complete free farm for him then? I feel like teams wouldn't like that sort of thing. I mean. Giving him free kills is probably worse but still.

You listed champions, I told you what to expect. Play Gankplank all you want but expect to be stomped by people who know what they're doing.

"Free farming Renekton" is an oxymoron. You won't really deny a champion that has that much resourseless aoe healing through damage.

I forgot to mention that you can max W on Gankplank and sit through the lane and use flat AD + lasthit masteries + some AD runes on Malphite to lasthit more reliably, especially under tower which can lead into more efficient shield usage, a bit hard to explain. But I don't like those since first one makes you lose even more power time with Gankplank who falls off greatly towards late game in any build and using that stuff on Malphite makes you even more team-reliant for damage.

Oh, also Malphite Q is useless during laning phase since early Renekton will outheal it unless you go big on AP and mana pots. And if he builds any magic resist, he will outheal it even if you max it towards level 9. So unless your jungler pays attention to your lane put 3 or at least 2 points into E for waveclear. Still max Q after that since you're more likely to use it on other champions by then.

Anyway, point is Renekton lane 1v1 is mostly about Renekton and not you. If he's doing well and doesn't do stuff like using Q at full health without hitting you or failing to hit W after charging it up, then just focus on scaling yourself into game. You might not even outscale Renekton sometimes but that doesn't stop you from impacting the game.

TKiller wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

Well, saying x-champion isn't good isn't the solution either. I've always been taught to stick to a small pool of champions and those four happen to be my top laners because I like using them and I'm comfortable with them. Five if you include Garen. Changing the champions to use all the time just because they're good in the meta, without having much skill isn't 'really' a solid solution, is it? =/
Especially after telling me "don't pick Gangplank at all" when he's far and away my favourite champion.
Okay, so stay under turrets, avoid engages during all of laning phase? Wouldn't that be complete free farm for him then? I feel like teams wouldn't like that sort of thing. I mean. Giving him free kills is probably worse but still.

You listed champions, I told you what to expect. Play Gankplank all you want but expect to be stomped by people who know what they're doing.

"Free farming Renekton" is an oxymoron. You won't really deny a champion that has that much resourseless aoe healing through damage.

I forgot to mention that you can max W on Gankplank and sit through the lane and use flat AD + lasthit masteries + some AD runes on Malphite to lasthit more reliably, especially under tower which can lead into more efficient shield usage, a bit hard to explain. But I don't like those since first one makes you lose even more power time with Gankplank who falls off greatly towards late game in any build and using that stuff on Malphite makes you even more team-reliant for damage.

Oh, also Malphite Q is useless during laning phase since early Renekton will outheal it unless you go big on AP and mana pots. And if he builds any magic resist, he will outheal it even if you max it towards level 9. So unless your jungler pays attention to your lane put 3 or at least 2 points into E for waveclear. Still max Q after that since you're more likely to use it on other champions by then.

Anyway, point is Renekton lane 1v1 is mostly about Renekton and not you. If he's doing well and doesn't do stuff like using Q at full health without hitting you or failing to hit W after charging it up, then just focus on scaling yourself into game. You might not even outscale Renekton sometimes but that doesn't stop you from impacting the game.

Well if I faced people who "knew what they were doing", I'd assume they'd be diamond or something. Not Silver 5 with me, lol. Anyways.

I actually started doing that on Gangplank starting two weeks ago out of necessity, since my usual Crit-Plank build wasn't getting me anywhere. Crit-Plank build involved leveling Q first and going for Statikk/Infinity Edge first where as the build I recently swapped to maxes W first and goes either Gauntlet (as dumb as it sounds) or Trinity Force first. It makes early-mid game a little more tolerable. I lose power yeah, but it allows me to sustain a little better since I don't usually get much lifesteal. This all worked for the past week or so but yeah... I'm starting to see less results as I play more (especially against... yeah... Renektons poping up everywhere).
(Added to my frustrations, I played with a buddy of mine whose Silver 3 (two ranks above me), picked Gangplank up a few days ago, and made the Crit-Plank build work and demolished people, then carried a game... Something I can't do with my most played champion anymore using that build.)

Malphite I really only use if my team is screaming for an AP champion. He's stupidly boring to me vs the other top laners I use. But I'm 8-3 in ranked with him so far so hey, results.
Ah, I might have to swap to the E then for Malphite. Never considered that.

People are so focused on laning phases (at least from most of the games I see) that impacting the game (with proper team fights and ultimate usage with Gangplank in the mid game) doesn't really seem to go noticed. I'm not exactly looking for pats on the back, but if you do mediocre or worse in lane, it'd be nice not to catch the added toxicity that already comes from using unpopular champions to begin with. Have a mediocre or worse laning phase -> have decent team fights or global ultimate usage -> get blamed for a loss by two or three people.

Thanks for the help, I do appreciate it.

Infernocash wrote:

Anyone got tips on how to counter Syndra in mid lane? Every time my team is against her, she just bursts down whoever goes near her :/

Dodge skills especially the stun. Poke works too.

Syndra is very prone to all-ins. If her stun and ulti are down she is pretty much free food for a lot of things.

also Yasuo

BrokenArrow wrote:

also Yasuo

Didn't yasuo get nerfed?

Toyface wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

also Yasuo

Didn't yasuo get nerfed?

His W still blocks all her shit and he will always be strong if they don't touch his passive

BRBP wrote:

How to play veigar in silver ranked when you're bored
1,5k AP stronk
#1 build on mobafire i swear to god

HAHA, nice

BRBP wrote:

I asked for a gank and our nautilus tried to hook over a wall.

BrokenArrow wrote:

Let me know if it was any helpful.~

Played two games as Cass it didn't happen. I'll try a few more games to be sure~



How to play veigar in silver ranked when you're bored
1,5k AP stronk
#1 build on mobafire i swear to god

Dat Snoop Nasus skin tho. Nice build :p

Damn I love Sivir.<3

Sivir a scary mofo when done right.

BRBP wrote:

o_o I got the green great teammate tag next to my name on lobbies.
Sweet



one day after my chat restriction ended lol
does that mean I'm both loved and hated

Wait? Do they still exist? (the red/green/etc tags.)

My red one is gone for some time ;_;

Dade is such a god on this patch. Wow.

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Wait? Do they still exist? (the red/green/etc tags.)

My red one is gone for some time ;_;

Well I found this.

if your ribbon goes away because you did not continue to earn enough honor to maintain it

The honor system is one of the worst and most pointless things they have added.
If you want to reward people for good behavior this isn't the way to do it.

I only see the Ribbons in bot matches now.

I hate yasuo's shield... -_-

Yay I am winning games again
Seriously tho, there are at least 2 afks in every game I play on this account, how do new players even like this game

Yeah & 90% of the people at this level are smurfs loving to destroy newbies, so I'm wondering how can they like the game too.

I don't remember that I had smurfs in my games when I began & if I had to begin now I would just unistall after 2 games

BRBP wrote:

Why bot matches, you mean those level 1-10 newbie games where everyone honors everyone? I only play ranked (700 games this season ._.) and some random 3v3 games and I've seen a dozen of them, mostly that teamwork one, though.

A ribbon is better than nothing if they want to somehow award for good behavior. If they gave an actual IP/RP reward or something useful everyone would just trade honors.

Everyone honors each other in bot games. Doesn't matter what level you are.

It might as well be nothing at this point since they are extremely rare and even if you get one you'll lose it in a week or so. The system is pointless and DOES NOT promote good behavior which is the point of a system like that.

There really is no way to implement a good behavior system (smite has a good one which I explain in a second) without it being abused, therefore they should work on better methods to deal with the toxic players like dota 2's prisoner island MM for example.

Smite has a pretty good system that both punishes and rewards bad/good people. It's called the Goodwill system.
Basically it's a percentage and you start at around 50% (I think? I'm not a dick in game so I've had 100% since the system was implemented like a year ago).
100% = Extra Favor (IP equivalent in League) for playing games.
0% = You are put into a matchmaking queue with other players that have low goodwill and you also can not play ranked games if you fall below 50%. Basically if you rage and leave games all the time you are pretty much screwed. inb4 what if I get troll reported? Getting a 1 report every few games isn't going to screw you over and premades can't really abuse this either.

Other MOBA's have figured it out I'm not sure why it's so hard for LoL other than they are lazy.

You start at 100% in the beginning, just to correct you on that
But yeah I agree, that system is pretty nice

ninjaedit

Yeah I couldn't remember since I've been at 100% for a very very long time. Basically since they added that system.

Graciee wrote:

I hate yasuo's shield... -_-

I play Yasuo very often

It's pretty hard to pull off a great wall

unless enemy lucian is dumb enough

Those OGN teamfight breakdown were pretty fun to watch.

*checking CS post game*



Yep, it's Sunday all right.

BRBP wrote:

Vulf wrote:

Everyone honors each other in bot games. Doesn't matter what level you are.

oh, ok. I just had no idea people actually play bot games after they get lv. 3/5 to unlock PvP lol. I played one 2v5 bot game against 5 intermediate bots to test the AI update they did a while ago, it wasn't even difficult to win. I don't see the point of playing bot games

Vulf wrote:

Smite stuff

Well that sounds better than a ribbon...

I have like 800 bot games played lol. Easy, fast, stress, free first win of the day.

There are a lot of things in both Dota 2 and Smite that I wish league would consider, but why would they waste time on stuff like that when they can invest more of those resources into their precious e-sports. =\

I would be so happy if they put voice chat in league

Man do I love seeing Cloud 9 lose


that balls teleport was literally level-10-and-below tier

Enemy team surrendering right before destroying our Nexus.. never gets old lmao.

Seraph though. I just hope he will improve.

Navizel wrote:

Seraph though. I just hope he will improve.

Link had quite disappointing game as well.

Someone in the chat said that Seraph should have a lot of pressure on his shoulders & I agree with that. Hopefully he will improve after playing a bit more in the LCS & get use to it.

LMQ 4-0 tho, the dream !

tossu wrote:

Navizel wrote:

Seraph though. I just hope he will improve.

Link had quite disappointing game as well.

Link was fucking amazing this whole week,his laning phase is the best out of any mid in NA right now
Seraph just gets fucked by every level 1/2 in every single game lol,he's just unlucky right now and they will need 4 weeks and then they will wreck everyone

f i z i k wrote:

Link was fucking amazing this whole week,his laning phase is the best out of any mid in NA right now
Seraph just gets fucked by every level 1/2 in every single game lol,he's just unlucky right now and they will need 4 weeks and then they will wreck everyone

Oh, don't get me wrong, I think he played amazing during the weekend except this game.

Meh. I live CLG but this year is LOMO year. (LMQ)

Randomly got mystery gifted MistleToe Leblanc from someone, wow I'm so happy right now

People are starting to realize Rengar is retarded broken so it's time for me to quit league until he gets nerfed into unviability again. =\
inb4 rework v3 because that champion can never be balanced with that resource system.

At least Smite is fun again I guess. lol

Vulf wrote:

People are starting to realize Rengar is retarded broken so it's time for me to quit league until he gets nerfed into unviability again. =\
inb4 rework v3 because that champion can never be balanced with that resource system.

At least Smite is fun again I guess. lol

I hope they don't do the same shit to Yasuo. I'm fine with the wind wall nerfs.

Yasuo is fine after his last nerf + the new exhaust. If exhaust ever gets nerfed and he becomes a problem again I think they might need to touch his shield passive again.
Windwall has plenty of opportunities to outplay and interact with as an enemy, but his flow passive does not.

Rengar is sooooooooooooo fun to play dude, it was even funnier pre rework but I'm fine with his current state

Remember: If you dislike League because you hate playing against certain champion - play those champions yourself and make the others
feel your pain.

BrokenArrow wrote:

Rengar is sooooooooooooo fun to play dude, it was even funnier pre rework but I'm fine with his current state

Remember: If you dislike League because you hate playing against certain champion - play those champions yourself and make the others
feel your pain.

Your signature is telling me something

Also, I don't play Rengar. I have no experience whatsoever in his current rework

BrokenArrow wrote:

Rengar is sooooooooooooo fun to play dude, it was even funnier pre rework but I'm fine with his current state

Remember: If you dislike League because you hate playing against certain champion - play those champions yourself and make the others
feel your pain.

I guess I should play Talon and build lots of armor pen then

Navizel wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

Rengar is sooooooooooooo fun to play dude, it was even funnier pre rework but I'm fine with his current state

Remember: If you dislike League because you hate playing against certain champion - play those champions yourself and make the others
feel your pain.

I guess I should play Talon and build lots of armor pen then

I thought I was the only one to know how full armpen Talon equals freelo :<

everyone is trying to play the ryan choi 4-dorans rengar and most of the time they fuck it up and lose because they dont understand the champion

meanwhile riven reigns supreme

tyrael6192 wrote:

everyone is trying to play the ryan choi 4-dorans rengar and most of the time they fuck it up and lose because they dont understand the champion

meanwhile riven reigns supreme

LoL XD
I rarely see someone using rengar in my server. Dunno why

kagaminelenz wrote:

tyrael6192 wrote:

everyone is trying to play the ryan choi 4-dorans rengar and most of the time they fuck it up and lose because they dont understand the champion

meanwhile riven reigns supreme

LoL XD
I rarely see someone using rengar in my server. Dunno why

Rengar isn't that famous unlike Kha'Zix. Many people don't play him 'cuz he's to complex I think

[/quote="Sonatora"]Rengar isn't that famous unlike Kha'Zix. Many people don't play him 'cuz he's to complex I think[/quote]

Complex, eh...
I think I'll wait for champion rotation and try rengar
Is it have a different play style with Warwick ?

kagaminelenz wrote:

[/quote="Sonatora"]Rengar isn't that famous unlike Kha'Zix. Many people don't play him 'cuz he's to complex I think

Complex, eh...
I think I'll wait for champion rotation and try rengar
Is it have a different play style with Warwick ?[/quote]

Like I said in my previous posts, I dont have any experience with Rengar whatsoever, But the thing I know is that his kit is pretty complex

Sonatora wrote:

his kit is pretty complex

It really isn't.
Use ult - Activate Ferocity Q -> Jump on target -> Faceroll (along with item actives such as Hydra and Youmuu's) -> Profit
If the target has flash you might consider saving your skillshot thingy

Just avoid jumping into 5 people without backup unless you are really fed
Rengar with Orianna and Morgana can 1v5 an entire team

EDIT: Sure, his kit CAN be complex, but most of the time the steps above do the job just fine since people can't react to your insane burst of damage anyways. No need to know all the in-depth knowledge, just deal most damage possible in the shortest amount of time.





EDIT2: I just got drophacked in an ARAM. What the fuck. The whole game is suddenly gone. Why would people do this.

tyrael6192 wrote:

everyone is trying to play the ryan choi 4-dorans rengar and most of the time they fuck it up and lose because they dont understand the champion

Can confirm. Played against A LOT of Rengar's the last few games in top lane, I played all the matches as Riven and they pretty much got destroyed (not over reacting) and every game enemy team asked us to report Rengar for "feeding". There was however ONE Rengar that was actually pretty decent and did manage to do Assassin Rengar like Ryan Choi, but he would fail most of the times.

Rengar broken? HAHAHAHA. Play Darius top and that kitty will be 0.

Darius is the best top laner. If you know to play him no one can beat you. Maybe just a good Teemo .

But he has no gapcloser and therefore sucks and is unviable in S4

WingsOfDeadthx wrote:

Rengar broken? HAHAHAHA. Play Darius top and that kitty will be 0.

Darius is the best top laner. If you know to play him no one can beat you. Maybe just a good Teemo .

Or you know, Reneketon with a gap closer, stun, great ult, and crazy self healing, I heard he's pretty good.

But he has no lategame and therefore sucks and is unviable in S4

I played rengar before the hype train which sucks, meaning that now everyone will be playing him :c Time to go back to riven then, and we're just talking about laning phase I would assume not late game.

BrokenArrow wrote:

But he has no gapcloser and therefore sucks and is unviable in S4

Maybe but with a good team comp like Sivir Karma bot he can be pretty good. And Renekton is like god in this season. The the ult buff is good for the late.

Eren Yaeger wrote:

I played rengar before the hype train which sucks, meaning that now everyone will be playing him :c Time to go back to riven then, and we're just talking about laning phase I would assume not late game.

What? There was no "before the hype train". He was hyped at release because you could build AP on him and do crazy damage.

Kanye West wrote:

Eren Yaeger wrote:

I played rengar before the hype train which sucks, meaning that now everyone will be playing him :c Time to go back to riven then, and we're just talking about laning phase I would assume not late game.

What? There was no "before the hype train". He was hyped at release because you could build AP on him and do crazy damage.

Nawh before the big one of ryan choi and his stupid 4 doran blades when people learned that he is actually pretty scary in solo que

Oh. Yeah true. people think that building four dorans on Rengar makes him auto OP but in reality it's just because Ryan Choi is really good at the champion lol

I'm still trying to figure out why he builds so many, if he's building it for the HP getting a vamp specter would be so much better and for the attack damage just a long sword gives more and can build into a vamp spect, I love playing rango he's so much fun, would be a shame if he was nerfed

He will get nerfed there is no maybe about it. He is up there with Shaco and stun from stealth Eve when it comes to an anti fun factor.
Also 4 dorans blade Rengar has been a thing since very early season 3.

His rework only solved ONE problem and that was his insane split pushing. Everything else was slightly nerfed or made even better since he is tankier and can get out after he deletes someone easier since he retains MS after stealth. He is still doing exactly what Riot doesn't want him to do hence why I said rework v3.

BrokenArrow wrote:

Rengar is sooooooooooooo fun to play dude, it was even funnier pre rework but I'm fine with his current state

Remember: If you dislike League because you hate playing against certain champion - play those champions yourself and make the others
feel your pain.

I would rather have pre-rework Rengar back than this one.

I don't need to. Warwick is an ultimate counter to Rengar so I can make the Rengar players life miserable. Still doesn't mean I don't hate that champion. He is badly designed and should have never existed to begin with. Just looking at his kit alone makes me (game designer) cringe.

Yeah, his rework cracked me up back then. "We don't like Rengar deleting carries but we don't know what to do with him so let's make him delete those even more reliably." Moving the snowball parts to permanent teamfight participation stacks is cat on head silly as well.

Although meanwhile I am still happy that soloq didn't remember Veigar yet and hopefully won't ever.

TKiller wrote:

Yeah, his rework cracked me up back then. "We don't like Rengar deleting carries but we don't know what to do with him so let's make him delete those even more reliably." Moving the snowball parts to permanent teamfight participation stacks is cat on head silly as well.

Although meanwhile I am still happy that soloq didn't remember Veigar yet and hopefully won't ever.

I just don't get how someone like Scruffy is even a game designer at Riot, though I love the new Skarner despite how much hate people give him for that. The Olaf and Rengar reworks have been a complete mess from day one. He also doesn't take feedback very well either which is very bad for any rework.

Rengars ulti initially was going to grant a much larger warning indication when it was discussed in a thread Scruffy made pre-rework, but it was massively whined about by a majority of the people posting there (God forbid something like that has counterplay LOL) and Scruffy caved. The only real argument was that it made it a worse version of Warwick's E which was quite hilarious to read. The circle jerk in that thread was real.

Veigar is pretty much a better version of Syndra.

With that aside I don't want Veigar to ever be considered good because I like that champion and when stuff becomes popular it gets nerfed. Stuff like Brand and Veigar are what burst mages are supposed to be.

TKiller wrote:

Moving the snowball parts to permanent teamfight participation stacks is cat on head silly as well.

I see what you did there. Wp.

goddamn

Navizel wrote:

goddamn

Holy shit that's pretty good.

La Volpe wrote:

Navizel wrote:

goddamn

Holy shit that's pretty good.

The Kharthus voice tho. If you know what i say :p

I still hate Riven top lane. Not saying she is OP or anything, but I really do have this deep passionate hate for champs that can just spam their abilities in lane while I have to actually manage my mana or I lose.



Probably would have lost this if their Riven left top lane instead of just split pushed for 25 minutes. May work in her Silver games, but that shit doesn't work against diamond players. LOL

Also I really love playing with good Draven players. So funny to see stuff like Riven die horribly to him in 1v1's.
Our Rammus's build was beautiful. xD

Haven't played Warwick for such a long time now that I think of it. Maybe it's time to surprise soloq a bit.

Only played 2 games of him on the FF patch and those were with a good duo partner so those don't really count.

That Rammus build 10/10 lol.

Vulf wrote:

"dat matchmaking"

It's a normal game.

So I logged to my old NA account.



You just look at this beauty.

LOOK. AT. IT.

I got a penta on this game.

I played Rengar in a normal to just play him, and thought I'd feed to no end. I went against a riven, and literally it went like this: I get 5 ferocity, wait till I can get to her, Q twice, that's a kill.

Skip 4 dorans, straight to tiamat, kill jungler, kill riven more, kill mid, feed mid game, assassinate ADC then leave, almost throw, then win. Easy.

Super fun deleting people though. Armor pen is fun.

Me and my friends tried sustain lane (WW,Nunu,SIon) but then nunu and sion dc'ed so became a 3v5 battle. totally recked the enemy until the reconed around 15 mins.

missing chromosomes detected

i laned with riven at top lane. bullied her that within 2 minutes i got 2 kills which made noc camp top and leb freely kill mid and bot until nunu and sion reconnected

MOST EPIC MATCH IN MY LIFE. AND INTENSIVE OMG



But rly now. DONT PICK KHARTHUS IN THIS MODE. NEVER!

tyrael6192 wrote:

missing chromosomes detected

more like extra

Haha I love watching Rivens lose. Also nidalees.

please, that riven was just an AA and Q to me early game

Played a ranked game with only 4 people on our team and 2 on the other team. o_o

La Volpe wrote:

Played a ranked game with only 4 people on our team and 2 on the other team. o_o

fix EUW please

Slith wrote:

La Volpe wrote:

Played a ranked game with only 4 people on our team and 2 on the other team. o_o

fix EUW please

Well Canada isnt in EU but you know everyone have their problems. :p

Fucking RNG



I'll never get to play my Lee Sin

Team Builder Queu - Captains Looking For - Assassin Mid
Wait time, short.



I just wanna play yoloqueu talon. QQ

This song rolf

I swear every time I try to do something nice in this game it back fires on me. Let this Nidalee take top so I went support and the next thing I know she is 2/12 in lane and started talking a bunch of shit to the team. Never ever again no matter how nicely they ask. lol

Vulf wrote:

I swear every time I try to do something nice in this game it back fires on me. Let this Nidalee take top so I went support and the next thing I know she is 2/12 in lane and started talking a bunch of shit to the team. Never ever again no matter how nicely they ask. lol

Is lol wtf. If you are nice , is sure a lose . Pick order > Call order .

It was a normal draft so I was fine with someone getting to play what they wanted because I'm a nice guy. The feeding wouldn't have bother me as much but the trash talking when they were pretty much the reason we were losing was a bit hilarious.

So yeah being nice gets you no where in this game.

So i'm decaying today, if I don't play that is. I forgot the blitz locked and I locked support like the idiot I am so I just dodged.

Now i'm sitting on -3LP


Watdo?

If I win will I get demoted?

Play a game? A dodge doesn't count as a game played.

If you are recently promoted to that tier there is a couple of games grace period if not you will probably get demoted if you lose. If you decay you get demoted if you are currently 0 points. If you win you will not get demoted.

Have fun with ladder anxiety lol

Didn't get demoted, I get to not be silver 5 for another month.

I'm gonna go practice in normal. My miss fortune used to go in ;_;

Dont worry Litchmore you can be on -3lp lose a game and not get demoted. Im on a 7 lose streak in ranked and im on 0lp and i ain't demoted its fine