cdhsausageboy wrote:

Sorry for being extremely late.

[General]
Dat creepy BG. I remembered that I had nightmares after finding out what the song was referring to. (I'm really scared of spooky stuff involving dolls)
What is tyuh for?
Add vocaloid3 in tags since SeeU belongs in it

For Muzu & Oni : Use k d for "ding dong"?

[0gre's Muzukashii]
00:24:596 - I would delete this note as it would emphasize the break at 00:24:846 nicely and it flows better with the kdd before
00:27:846 (59,60,61,62,63,64) - This part is the only part that has 2 consecutive 3-note clusters (in 1/2) which is pretty strange , maybe delete 00:28:096 to make it similar like 00:59:346 (143,144,145,146,147) ?
00:44:596 - wouldn't following the drums here be better? move 00:44:846 to 00:44:596
00:52:846 - ^
01:07:846 - add finish/change to kat pls
The repeating patterns actually fits the kiai really well, since the song also repeats itself, emphasizing the pattern even more
01:32:846 - move to 01:32:596 if you did it before
01:40:846 - ^
01:55:846 to 01:57:346 imo it would be better if you follow the vocals that are getting stronger to emphasize it instead continue following the drums, give it a try!
01:57:846 to 01:59:596 - delete all notes for having a pause to emphasize the really creepy last kiai? >w<
02:23:096 - deleting this note makes this part a little better imo

[0gre's Oni]

heh

meh I don't like the Oni as much as the Muzu since imo the Oni is just mostly following the vocals while Muzu provides more variety of stuff >_>
01:57:846 to 01:59:596 - same as Muzu
02:02:596 (484,485,486,487,488,489) - ddk ddk doesn't really fit the rhythm of the song, delete 02:02:596 and 02:03:096 ?
02:06:596 (505,506,507,508,509,510) - ^
02:10:596 (526,527,528,529,530,531) - ^
02:15:846 - move the kiai end here
02:23:096 - same as Muzu

I still suck at modding Oni's >w<
Well, good luck for getting this map ranked after so many stars and so much time :3

Dainesl wrote:

creepy BG ._.

General

Find which vocaloid is used and put it in the tags (is it Hatsune Miku that's being used here or another one?)
Also I don't think Korean would be necessary if this is actually a Korean song instead of Japanese like most Vocaloid songs are. Not sure if this is Korean or not but if it is, remove Korean from tags, since it'll be given Korean when it's ranked
Perhaps you could also include the vocaloid version number?
Normal and Hard: CS +1 because these diffs are normally made for CS 3/4 rather than 2/3
Hitsound volume inconsistencies inbetween Taiko Muzu and Oni Muzu, which tbh seems redundant as you have an inherited point at the exact same time you have a timing point, both with different volumes. Is that even rankable? ;; Same deal with the Oni except soft and 70%, which makes it even more redundant unless you want to keep 0.9x SV, but if you do, make sure to fix this
Put the Preview Point at 01:09:846 - because that's where the Kiai begins and that's normally where the Preview Point is placed
Delete all notes past 02:22:846 - because there is NO GODDAMN MUSIC TO MAP TO AFTER THIS ;~; (all diffs!)

Taiko Muzukashii

Kiais seem kinda...empty for a Muzu, considering that the other bits are almost as difficult, doesn't really stand out enough Perhaps map some of the background instruments to show the development of the song at these times
On top of that they're EXTREMELY repetitive, which makes the map zzzzz boring.
00:32:596 (74) - Maybe remove this note to accomodate the lack of vocal?
00:40:346 (92,93,94,95,96,97) - Patterns like these don't fit the music well enough, move the 2nd note in these patterns next to the other 4 instead. ;w;
00:45:846 (108,109) - Invert these to show the higher pitch where (108) is instead of (109)
00:53:846 (131) - Perhaps make this a big kat because the vocal is high-pitch atm?
00:55:846 (135,136,137,138,139) - remove (136) and (138), see first suggestion to know why.
01:07:846 (164) - Maybe make this a kat to show the high-pitched cymbal-like sound?
01:10:346 (169) - 01:14:346 (182) - 01:18:346 (195) - 01:22:346 (208) - These don't sound emphasised enough to be finishers imo
01:57:846 (305) - Maybe make this a kat to emphasise the weird high-pitched "mi" sound?
02:13:346 (354) - Maybe make this a kat to show the continually high pitch here?

Taiko Oni

Again, repetitive Kiais make me sad ;; although they are decently dense for an Oni
00:37:846 - place inherited point here instead of 1/4 beat before here
00:37:846 (116) - Add finisher here to emphasise beginning of new vocal section?
00:42:596 (137,138,139,140) - place (139) between (137) and (138) and make that a ddk pattern, plays better to the music imo
01:28:721 (342) - I can't really hear any instrument being played here, remove perhaps?
01:35:096 (367,368,369,370,371,372) - Maybe simplify these "double triplet" patterns (as I call them) to play a bit better with regards to the music?
01:40:596 (393,394,395) - Maybe make this ddk/kdk instead of dkd to fit the mostly high-low-high fluctuation?
01:57:846 (464) - See suggestion on Muzu of the same time
02:15:846 - End Kiai Time here instead of 1/4 beat before

WELL ANYWAY, I WILL TRY TO IMPROVE IT so plz let me have some time

neonat wrote:

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, 8 March 2014 at 2:00:09 AM

Artist: Ho-Ong-I
Title: Hide and Seek
Tags: vocaloid SeeU -apxh 0gre Tyuh vocaloid3
BPM: 120
Filesize: 18766kb
Play Time: 02:23
Difficulties Available:

1. 0gre's Muzukashii (4.49 stars, 382 notes)
2. 0gre's Oni (4.83 stars, 576 notes)
3. Hard (4.49 stars, 271 notes)
4. Insane Collab (4.93 stars, 327 notes)
5. Insane (4.82 stars, 352 notes)
6. Normal (2.61 stars, 168 notes)

Download: Ho-Ong-I - Hide and Seek
Download: Ho-Ong-I - Hide and Seek (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
4th song.
Normal - Complete
Hard - Complete
Insane - Complete
Insane Collab - Map done by -APXH and me
Taiko Difficulties - Done by 0gre
Video: http://ho-ong-i.crecrew.net/4565
It is pretty much finalized

Lyrics

English Lyrics:
Ding-Dong Hurry and open the door, I have come
Even if you try to hide, it's no use
Ding-Dong Hurry and open the door, I have come
It's already too late to run
Looking through the window, our eyes met
Two eyes frozen in fear, I want to see up close
Ding-Dong I'm coming in, hurry up and run
Let play tag and have fun
Ding-Dong I've come in, hurry up and hide
Lets play hide-and-seek and have fun
The thumping of your footsteps can be heard
Your ragged breathing can be heard
*Hide tightly
I can see your hair
Hide tightly
I can see your hair
Hide tightly
I can see your hair
Hide tightly*
Head...
(The part above is a korean phrase used when playing hide-and-seek like the song Kagome Kagome is used in the Japanese game)
Knock-Knock I'm in front of your room door
I'm coming in, I won't ask for permission
Knock-Knock I'm inside your room, where are you hiding
The game is almost at end
I looked under the bed in your room
You're not here, next is inside your closet...
Ding-Dong Here you are
Ding-Dong You were here all along
You're it
Ding-Dong I've found you now
You're it
Ding-Dong It looks like I won
You're it
Ding-Dong
Receive your penalties
Ding-Dong The game is at end
There's no one left
Ding-Dong goodbye to everyone

neonat wrote:

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, 8 March 2014 at 2:00:09 AM

Artist: Ho-Ong-I
Title: Hide and Seek
Tags: vocaloid SeeU -apxh 0gre Tyuh vocaloid3
BPM: 120
Filesize: 18766kb
Play Time: 02:23
Difficulties Available:

1. 0gre's Muzukashii (4.49 stars, 382 notes)
2. 0gre's Oni (4.83 stars, 576 notes)
3. Hard (4.49 stars, 271 notes)
4. Insane Collab (4.93 stars, 327 notes)
5. Insane (4.82 stars, 352 notes)
6. Normal (2.61 stars, 168 notes)

Download: Ho-Ong-I - Hide and Seek
Download: Ho-Ong-I - Hide and Seek (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
---------------
4th song.
Normal - Complete
Hard - Complete
Insane - Complete
Insane Collab - Map done by -APXH and me
Taiko Difficulties - Done by 0gre
Video: http://ho-ong-i.crecrew.net/4565
It is pretty much finalized

Lyrics

English Lyrics:
Ding-Dong Hurry and open the door, I have come
Even if you try to hide, it's no use
Ding-Dong Hurry and open the door, I have come
It's already too late to run
Looking through the window, our eyes met
Two eyes frozen in fear, I want to see up close
Ding-Dong I'm coming in, hurry up and run
Let play tag and have fun
Ding-Dong I've come in, hurry up and hide
Lets play hide-and-seek and have fun
The thumping of your footsteps can be heard
Your ragged breathing can be heard
*Hide tightly
I can see your hair
Hide tightly
I can see your hair
Hide tightly
I can see your hair
Hide tightly*
Head...
(The part above is a korean phrase used when playing hide-and-seek like the song Kagome Kagome is used in the Japanese game)
Knock-Knock I'm in front of your room door
I'm coming in, I won't ask for permission
Knock-Knock I'm inside your room, where are you hiding
The game is almost at end
I looked under the bed in your room
You're not here, next is inside your closet...
Ding-Dong Here you are
Ding-Dong You were here all along
You're it
Ding-Dong I've found you now
You're it
Ding-Dong It looks like I won
You're it
Ding-Dong
Receive your penalties
Ding-Dong The game is at end
There's no one left
Ding-Dong goodbye to everyone

0gre wrote:

heww.. so far i got stuck in... by lots of different ideas
but I just want to say something to some of the mods that,
"What is a wrong of repeating bunch of notes at where vocal and rhythm is almost exactly same?"
I can understand if the song is full and talking about 1st part and 2nd part of kiai or etc for eg.
but it is strange to have different pattern at same part with same rhythm.

WELL ANYWAY, I WILL TRY TO IMPROVE IT so plz let me have some time

Muzukashii (remade) ~ http://puu.sh/7sSjr.zip
Oni (renew) ~ in process

cdhsausageboy wrote:

0gre wrote:

heww.. so far i got stuck in... by lots of different ideas
but I just want to say something to some of the mods that,
"What is a wrong of repeating bunch of notes at where vocal and rhythm is almost exactly same?"
I can understand if the song is full and talking about 1st part and 2nd part of kiai or etc for eg.
but it is strange to have different pattern at same part with same rhythm.

WELL ANYWAY, I WILL TRY TO IMPROVE IT so plz let me have some time

Muzukashii (remade) ~ http://puu.sh/7sSjr.zip
Oni (renew) ~ in process

I actually praised you for repeating the patterns ;w; Keep up the good work, repeated patterns can be very nice to play even though it can't be accepted by some people *shrugs*

nooo Im not really picking you. I am just saying to some of previous mods those I got who mentioned about it and maybe some mods willing to get
btw I am kind renewing Oni, trying to follow this suggestion

Lapis Aoki wrote:

Heard that this map is gonna get bubbled soon, so quick check~ owo (I'm also modding this cause I like SeeU~ >w<)
[Normal]
00:43:317 (2) -Move to x:200 y:244 and change it shape like this better:

SPOILER

^ It follows the rhythm perfectly changed whole section
00:48:846 (5) -Move to x:340 y:344 ^
01:01:846 (1) -Change shape: used a different shape

SPOILER

01:41:846 -Better remove spinner here, it doesn't fit the timing. I do not think it is wrong though, it's just a spinner over 1 line of the vocals
01:49:846 -^ ^
02:00:346 (2) -Move to x:360 y:164 It will be better for normal players. no change

GL and star ~ ! >w<

1. 00:53:846 (174) - finisher? 00:45:846 (141) - ここでシンバルを拾わずにfinisherを置かないなら、曲の流れが変わる 00:53:846 に置いてあげると綺麗だと思います。
   01:41:846 (376) - same as above.
2. 01:41:096 (373) - change to d? 1番と比べてパターンが詰まってる事自体は問題無いのですが、kat の音が少しうるさく感じたので一度ピッチを落としてあげた方がプレイする上では良かったです。
3. 01:56:846 - add a k here. バスドラムに合わせた空白だと思いますが、1番サビ前は叩かせっぱなしでしたし、同じようにこちらも何か置いて勢いを付けた方が良いと感じました。
4. 01:59:846 ~ パターンが多いためどれが良いとは言えませんが、finisherの使い方にもう少し統一性を持たせた方が良いと感じました。1番のサビがうまくまとまってた反面、こちらは意図的にしても少しバランスが悪いように思えます。
5. 02:15:846 - => 02:16:346 - move x0.9 line here. 移動というより緑線を追加して、元々あった緑線はSVx1.0に変えてあげてください。わかりやすい速度変化とはいえ、ちょっと変な感じです。

1. 00:52:596 (127) - del? その直後にある kkk 自体必要ないような気もしましたが、Oniとの差別化のためなら問題無いと思います。が、Muzukashii的にはもう少し休憩が欲しいです。
2. 00:53:846 (132) - finisher? same reason as Oni.
   01:41:846 (293) - ^
3. 01:01:596 (157) - del? これと言った音も無いですし、01:01:846 - を孤立させてあげた方が良い気がします。
4. 02:15:846 - この速度変化もOniと同じように次のノーツにずらしてあげてください。
5. 02:18:721 (75) - del? Oniにも同じような2連符がありますが、Muzukashiiなのでこっちは消してあげても良いと思います。

TKS wrote:

[ 0gre's Oni]

1. 00:53:846 (174) - finisher? 00:45:846 (141) - ここでシンバルを拾わずにfinisherを置かないなら、曲の流れが変わる 00:53:846 に置いてあげると綺麗だと思います。
   01:41:846 (376) - same as above.
2. 01:41:096 (373) - change to d? 1番と比べてパターンが詰まってる事自体は問題無いのですが、kat の音が少しうるさく感じたので一度ピッチを落としてあげた方がプレイする上では良かったです。変更
3. 01:56:846 - add a k here. バスドラムに合わせた空白だと思いますが、1番サビ前は叩かせっぱなしでしたし、同じようにこちらも何か置いて勢いを付けた方が良いと感じました。はい
4. 01:59:846 ~ パターンが多いためどれが良いとは言えませんが、finisherの使い方にもう少し統一性を持たせた方が良いと感じました。1番のサビがうまくまとまってた反面、こちらは意図的にしても少しバランスが悪いように思えます。と言われましても、何回も作りすぎてるため、もうアイデアが...
5. 02:15:846 - => 02:16:346 - move x0.9 line here. 移動というより緑線を追加して、元々あった緑線はSVx1.0に変えてあげてください。わかりやすい速度変化とはいえ、ちょっと変な感じです。了解

[ 0gre's Muzukashii]

1. 00:52:596 (127) - del? その直後にある kkk 自体必要ないような気もしましたが、Oniとの差別化のためなら問題無いと思います。が、Muzukashii的にはもう少し休憩が欲しいです。難易度関係でｋｋｋを外しました
2. 00:53:846 (132) - finisher? same reason as Oni.
   01:41:846 (293) - ^
3. 01:01:596 (157) - del? これと言った音も無いですし、01:01:846 - を孤立させてあげた方が良い気がします。どかしました
4. 02:15:846 - この速度変化もOniと同じように次のノーツにずらしてあげてください。ずらしました
5. 02:18:721 (75) - del? Oniにも同じような2連符がありますが、Muzukashiiなのでこっちは消してあげても良いと思います。

jonathanlfj wrote:

alright lets see

[General]
preview time should be at 00:05:846, its at 00:05:830 atm which is slightly early Ok will change this

[Normal]
00:36:846 (4) - is the whistle on slider body intentional? Was because both ends had whistle, I guess I could remove it since it's not really needed
00:51:846 (2) - this would look better if you took 00:50:846 (1) and flipped it by 180 degrees so the curve looks the same shifted other positions there too
01:38:846 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - try perfectly center this on the y-axis makes sense to make them equal x or y axis
02:21:846 (3) - whistle on start not really going to highlight this note with whistle, didn't do so in other difficulties too

[Hard]
00:32:596 - add a note here? keeps consistency with 00:24:596 (4) ok
00:37:846 (1) - add a finish here? only added to Normal because of the object density and how it would be less noisy
01:41:846 (1) - use a 3-point slider, right now it kinda looks meh ok

[Insane]
00:23:846 (1) - probably forgot a whistle it was a gradual lead up in hitsounds to the verse but yeh it does make it seem better with one more whistle
01:34:846 (3,4,5) - the flow here feels a bit broken, since you stop to hit the stack and then jump really far to reach the next slider. try position 01:35:096 (4) at x:192 y:32 shifted both in a way where they overlap 01:34:846 (3) - equally and the downward motion is kept
01:42:846 (1) - NC is not really needed, since the same sv is being followed ok
01:57:346 (4) - make this into a slider thats a vertical flip of 01:56:346 (2), gives a nice lead into 01:57:846 (1) clarified this
02:01:846 (6) - try stacking this under 02:01:346 (5), makes more sense with how you comboed the section I must have left that out somehow

[Insane Collab]
00:10:846 (2,3) - move it a bit up to avoid the partial overlap with 00:09:846 (1) changed and ended up shifting 00:11:346 (4,5) too
00:53:846 (1) - move the end point a bit left to get a better blanket on 00:54:846 (2,3) fixed
01:11:846 (1) - pretty sure volume settings like this are questionable in rankability, i'd suggest to use 25% instead to be safe (apply to all 15% sections) changed
01:23:341 - unsnapped green line, snap to 01:23:346 fixed
01:57:846 - i would actually remove this break here, especially because the next section comes really fast, and the pause can be considered a transition verse instead of a break in music section ok
02:12:846 (3,4,5,6) - rearrange the order makes this section play better imo: ok

SPOILER

recommend you fix the stuff in blue, and then let me know

Hinsvar wrote:

This is quite a wait (with +125 priority even lol)

Congrats!

HeatKai wrote:

Congrats Neonat! At last you manage to get it ranked! /claps

Cloudchaser wrote:

First SeeU song ranked! congratz

UnderminE wrote:

trap

oh-

DJNightmare wrote:

Finally, Congrats on your first ranked beatmap neonat :3

Kaguya Hourain wrote:

Congrats man! Been a long time since I wanted this ranked! Awesome!

[ Aily ] wrote:

wwwwww finally ranked

AlpacaCokelat wrote:

WHOOOOOOOP CONGRATZ!!!! :'D

mingmichael wrote:

wohoo congrats

[Minakami Yuki] wrote:

I remember this song...
gratz

cdhsausageboy wrote:

Gratz~

[Seraphin] wrote:

nice

kirigherkins wrote:

+1 for new national anthem.

Sieg wrote:

Congrats (: