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Starrodkirby86
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animask wrote:

..btw if its called BAT why do they do more than just beatmap approval stuff?
This is to chop redundant and repetitive team things.

BATs are also known as the moderators of osu! as well. That's kind of why they have !silence, !kill, and other interesting powers of the like. They also help peppy identify bugs in test builds, so when you obtain your public build, there's way less of the troubles than what you'd originally get.

And I would recommend people, but I'm too much of a fresh meat for that. Too much BATs is also another thing, but that point has already been mentioned. ._.
tieff
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awp
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Two reasons why current staff is enough but doesn't seem like enough:

One, as many say, is due to inactive BAT members. But rather than focus on who is inactive, focus on how active the BAT are as a whole. Some BAT members really do not mod a lot (and I mean like three times a month or something) but I tend to disregard them as an accurate representation of the "BAT" identity.

The second reason is that people are getting lazy with their maps. What is the ratio, I wonder, of BAT posts to BAT bubble/ranks. In a perfect world, it would be 1:1. BATs are considered experts in the field of modding and their opinions are considered valuable. But that's no reason to just do a half-assed job, sit back, and wait until one of the BAT comes along and lists all the problems/improvements with the map so you can go an' fix 'em without having to look too hard. Yes, the kudosu system has done a great job of getting everyone to pitch in and help out, but I just want to restate a very important point (this is gonna enter someone's sig, probably)

The rate at which maps are ranked is not a reflection of the efficacy of the BAT, it is a reflection of the efficacy of the community as a whole.
Gens
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Gens
Seeing as how I mod, I should probably be shooting for BAT. :D
Oh well, *ahem*...

I agree with everything awp said above (Especially with the "Lazy Mappers" part), but a few more BATs wouldn't hurt.
I've always wondered, if peppy said there shouldn't be more than 2/3 bubbles, why are there like 7/8 bubbles? Perhaps we need more BATs to take care about it.

I'm just sayin', ignore me as you please. .-.
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
I vote for a seperate team that actually only "Approves Beatmaps" and ranks them...
Jarby
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Jarby

animask wrote:

I vote for a seperate team that actually only "Approves Beatmaps" and ranks them...
Could you explain why these groups need to be separated in the first place?
Sleep Powder
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Starrodkirby86
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This sounds a lot like an original idea about having a special 'mod' group I heard about months ago, or a newbie BAT group (Something like that). It's more as in the lines of people in this special group were allowed to mod + bubble, but they couldn't rank. I don't know what happened to that idea now.

I don't think giving "pre-BATs" the ability to rank is a good idea. It's better for a more qualified person, such as a BAT, to do such tasks. They can bubble the map though (Pre-BATs), which doesn't hurt much at all (Has no bad consequences).
Sleep Powder
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awp
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Sleep Powder
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awp wrote:

BAT are technically not supposed to mod
awp : Couldn't we have a team that was meant to help with the editing of beatmaps if thats the case?
Derekku
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To help people with editor? There's the faq, tutorials, and anyone in #mod/#osu to help with that.

To mod? There's too many maps to mod for there to be a "team" of people to do it. Everyone just needs to help mod as a community :<
Sleep Powder
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Derekku Chan : I was thinking more of a team that fills in the blank of the 2 teams so far.
If the BAT were meant to approve. Global Mods were meant for the forums. The team for helping to mod would fit in pretty well right? I know the community can do a lot of work to help but we could use a little support with the ranking process. Even though I think its going much faster than before. This will prevent any future build-ups for sure.

also...if the team is created can I join? =o

EDIT: The team could have the ability to raise SP by like 5 or something =o
Ekaru
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Ekaru
K, here's your beatmap modding team:

Beatmap Modding Team:

Anyone who isn't a BAT

I even made a guide on how to mod, and if someone has time to map they have time to mod, so no excuses, guys.
RemmyX25
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Ekaru wrote:

Beatmap Modding Team:

Anyone who isn't a BAT
This.

You don't need more BATs to mod, you need more regular players to test drive your map.
Gabi
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i think it is safe to say that we can delete half of these guidelines now.
Larto
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Mystearica
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Larto wrote:

Fuck you.
?

Gabi's just raising a question which seems legit to me?
Gens
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Gens

minyeob wrote:

I'll try.
If not, tell me what to develop more. I'm a beginner modder
This post makes me giggle now. Grats minyeob~ (yes, again)
arien666
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arien666

RemmyX25 wrote:

Ekaru wrote:

Beatmap Modding Team:

Anyone who isn't a BAT
This.

You don't need more BATs to mod, you need more regular players to test drive your map.
More regular players' modding also helps someone's map.
It can consider everyone's hope :3
Anyway...

BMT seems good :3
Derekku
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Sir Minelli
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0_o
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0_o
YES.

YES I DO.
Froslass
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Froslass

0_o wrote:

YES.

YES I DO.
That's true.

When I reach 5 ranked maps I will post here again. (lol)
Real1
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Real1
Yeah. If I stop being lazy and actually mod more. I could qualify... But not now. Gonna go and do lazy things.
Kytoxid
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Derekku
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Uh, maybe once I stop being lazy and start finishing my maps (and modding more). Stupid school :(.
Jarby
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Jarby
Everyone with 5 or more ranked maps is now a BAT.

Discuss.
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder

JarJarJacob wrote:

Everyone with 5 or more ranked maps is now a BAT.

Discuss.
orly?


I think that's slightly prejudice towards all the beatmappers. Ranked beatmaps only show that they seem to get more attention than most people and popularity shouldn't be a major issue when being a BAT.
Gabi
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Gabi
someone make Card'n'Force a BAT ok? thanks
awp
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animask wrote:

I think that's slightly prejudice towards all the beatmappers. Ranked beatmaps only show that they seem to get more attention than most people and popularity shouldn't be a major issue when being a BAT.
You seem to think that everyone must have the same skills when it comes to beatmapping in order to make the assumption that more ranked maps = more popular

but there's also this to consider: some people need between 0 and 4 corrections to have a map ranked. Others need between 40 and 50.

Back to the 5+ ranked == bat, this would imply the better you are at beatmapping, the faster you become a bat, and isn't this what we want anyway? Good people? Or at least persistent people.
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
Just because they can get things done faster doesn't mean they're better
Gens
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Starrodkirby86
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Gens wrote:

(If you go look at my beatmap threads, ignore the normal user posts; the first BAT finds little to no errors, then bubble and rank it. At least in my recent maps. :D )
Uh...but shouldn't be we not ignore those user posts? I mean, what if they had corrections? Unless they were all Star :) and the like, I would count those corrections too.
Gens
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Gens

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

Uh...but shouldn't be we not ignore those user posts? I mean, what if they had corrections? Unless they were all Star :) and the like, I would count those corrections too.
Well, yeah, but most users pull out suggestions I disagree with, and they are small (clap here, new combo), so that's why I said that. Since I'm trying to get my priority up now, I can't avoid those horrible nazis. I was mainly referring to major issues. ;o
Andrea
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Well, we have to see :P

I have already 33 ranked beatmaps, so I'm sure ranked beatmaps for me isn't a problem XD

Anyway yes, why not. I wanna try :P
Kytoxid
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Personality counts too. Arbitrary numbers suck.
Jarby
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Jarby

Kytoxid wrote:

Personality counts too. Arbitrary numbers suck.
I love you.
Andrea
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Andrea

Kytoxid wrote:

Personality counts too. Arbitrary numbers suck.
Yeah I know :P
Elises_old
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awp
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Elises wrote:

No question, of course I'd love to end up being a BAT. I mean, that probably wont happen for a really, REALLY long time, but if I can ever become one, but it's definitely something for me to strive for. I love listening to other people's favorite songs, what can I say, I'm a music lover =D, and I can't run out of ideas to make a song fun to play and watch. Not to mention, the thought of being able to help out others with their own color-struck song-based designs is something I could really get into. Like watching a person's dream develop into reality before your very eyes...

maybe someday karma (or whatever you prefer to believe, I'll use karma for now) will return the favor.
'round these parts it's known as "kudosu".
Elises_old
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Elises_old

awp wrote:

Elises wrote:

maybe someday karma (or whatever you prefer to believe, I'll use karma for now) will return the favor.
'round these parts it's known as "kudosu".
lol. You're right.
Esupanitix
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Esupanitix
< Clearly not going to be a BAT anytime soon.
EnPassant
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EnPassant
I'm never going to be a BAT

Never gonna have that kind of time.
deadbeat
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being a BAT would be fun...but i'll never make make it
I suck at modding
I REALLY suck at modding :P
I really don't think I'm suited to be a BAT full stop :(
Skyripper
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Skyripper
Mod more, you'll get better at it.
Breeze
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Breeze
I like doing mod as fun, not a job
BAts are always busy, yes, great job they do
my compliments to all BATs
Happy new year~
SupaBullet
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SupaBullet
Sounds OK... Too noob to do it.
Froslass
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Froslass
My modding sucks.
I have 1 ranked map.
It sucks.

NOW IM A BAT!!!!1!!1'2

Really, I'm too busy to mod 234234234 songs and bubble/rank something.
Jarby
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Jarby
Is there any actual point in posting in this thread and saying "idontwannabebatisucklol"?
Froslass
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JarJarJacob wrote:

Is there any actual point in posting in this thread and saying "idontwannabebatisucklol"?
Is there any actual point in posting in this thread and saying "Is there any actual point in posting in this thread and saying "idontwannabebatisucklol"?"?

Seriously, no.
Jarby
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Jarby
It might be a good idea to stop posting.
Crimmi
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Crimmi
Well Even Though I Don't Have Any Ranked Maps Yet I Might Take A Shot At It, Though I'm Bored At Home Modding All Day xD
So Hit Me With Your Best Shot =]
Sakura
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I do want to try it as well, i do have 3 ranked maps and i spend 90% of my free time modding maps, yeah i do check maps in pending/WIP when i dont have any requests, since i love modding more than anything. But yeah i think i got what it takes (from the stuff in the first post anyways) however i'm still improving in all aspects since i strive to being better than what i am learning from my errors on my maps and modding ^^ hope someday i can get to be one so yeah ^^ i'll keep trying
soulfear
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soulfear
Mod maps in Help and Pending, the way other mods mod them. Take the initiative and show us you can mod.
Create your own maps and get them ranked. Not only does this show that you have dedication to your work, you will also learn valuable tricks and tips which you can pass on when modding.
Chat on IRC (in-game chat). We'll get to know you better, which in turn makes it more likely for us to promote you. A cheerful, bright personality with a good sense of humour helps.
Don't ask, complain or rave on about how good you are, how many posts you've made, or how you've worked so hard and are still not a BAT. If we haven't approached you to become a BAT, you're probably not doing something right, be it modding or behaviourwise (ie. learn to internet). Put yourself in our shoes; would you want to promote someone who keeps whining?

I just want BATs can mod more for mapper.
TsukiAnimeGirl
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TsukiAnimeGirl
I would like to be a BAT
I'm online on osu almost all the days (except tuesday and thursday, 'cause I'm at my mom's house and there is no internet DX)

and I would like to make faster this thing of approve beatmaps

sometimes I find good beatmaps at pending list.

and one question: is obligatory a beatmap have a background?
'cause at pendind list has some beatmaps without background
Derekku
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Derekku
Even if a map includes a video/storyboard, it should still include a background for the song selection screen.

If you'd like to strive to become a BAT, then (as others have said) mod maps in pending/help like other experienced modders/BAT do, and perhaps one day a dream will become a reality. :P

Also, creating your own maps and getting them ranked/approved is essential, as well. P:
Lilac
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Lilac

Derekku Chan wrote:

Also, creating your own maps and getting them ranked/approved is essential, as well. P:
This should have been part of the MAT criteria.
LaunchedthousandShip
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LaunchedthousandShip
Responsibility , this is the most important thing not only to bat, but to all ppl in the world.

I love my avatar :3 and wish you guys can be responsible bats once you become bats~
TraceTheKriken
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TraceTheKriken
SPOILER

Echo wrote:

  1. Mod maps in Help and Pending, the way other mods mod them. Take the initiative and show us you can mod. I have modded maps before. If you want to see how I'm modding, I can mod a map if you want
  2. Create your own maps and get them ranked. Not only does this show that you have dedication to your work, you will also learn valuable tricks and tips which you can pass on when modding.So far I don't have Ranked maps, but I have few quest diffs (These maps are ranked)
If you want to ask something that will help, go ahead.
When you reply, please tell me everything that I still need to do to be a BAT

And if you want you can check my maps, just in case if any of them is good enough to be approved/ranked
EDIT: I'M NOT INTERESTED ANYMORE, SO JUST IGMORE THIS MESSAGE
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eveless
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eveless

TraceTheKriken wrote:

Echo wrote:

  1. Mod maps in Help and Pending, the way other mods mod them. Take the initiative and show us you can mod. I have modded maps before. If you want to see how I'm modding, I can mod a map if you want
  2. Create your own maps and get them ranked. Not only does this show that you have dedication to your work, you will also learn valuable tricks and tips which you can pass on when modding.So far I don't have Ranked maps, but I have few quest diffs (These maps are ranked)
If you want to ask something that will help, go ahead.
When you reply, please tell me everything that I still need to do to be a BAT

And if you want you can check my maps, just in case if any of them is good enough to be approved/ranked
EDIT: People have forgotten these good songs...
wtf with it
Ayeen_old
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Ayeen_old
Struggling with 4 mapsets to get ranked :o A BAT? Uhm, I dont have a ranked map "yet". I can push myself becoming BAT. BAT, BAT.... now I need a wing :roll:
theowest
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theowest
Oh gosh. Well.. I've got no problems with those criteria's. I sure hope I can continue striving till I become one!
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Shiirn
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Shiirn
General Rule: If you want to be a bat, you shouldn't be one.
James2250
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James2250

Shiirn wrote:

General Rule: If you want to be a bat, you shouldn't be one.
Don't really agree...
Soaprman
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Soaprman
PM me and I will personally promote you to a BAT with my magical powers.
Ayeen_old
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Ayeen_old
Would responsibility and equality to all mapppers and not to just to your friends/someone you know included in the rules? It seem these day, I saw like MAT/BAT prioritize friends before touching someone who they didn't even know personally in life or in game
Hyguys
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Hyguys
Create your own maps and get them ranked.
Derekku
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Derekku
Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008
Yeah... this thread is pretty outdated. BATs are no longer chosen the same way they were in 08/09. Now, they are chosen from MATs that show substantial modding expertise. Thus, please see the Think you've got what it takes to be a MAT? thread for more up-to-date information.
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