Instead of making a topic for this, would 218 BPM 1/4th note stacks be a little tooo much?
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After practicing for hours, I seem to miss even more with the keyboard ;o. I guess because I'm so use to "feeling the impact" on the circles when I click. If that made any sense... but I'll keep trying I guess, unless there are any more suggestions.
while (!Player.isDead())
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++deathstream;
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I dislike the travel time on the Z/X keys, so I just use the two mouse buttons. For sheer fast stacks like on Marisa, you could try doing both Z/X and the mouse buttons at the same time if you can't click fast enough.
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++deathstream;
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I dislike the travel time on the Z/X keys, so I just use the two mouse buttons. For sheer fast stacks like on Marisa, you could try doing both Z/X and the mouse buttons at the same time if you can't click fast enough.
if you casn do it on keyboard, just stick with mouse clicking.
it would be hard to force yourself to do something that is awkward at first like switching from mouse click to keyboard.
ask Ivalset or something for alt clicking stuffs since hes the only guy i knew who is very good at alternate clicking.
it would be hard to force yourself to do something that is awkward at first like switching from mouse click to keyboard.
ask Ivalset or something for alt clicking stuffs since hes the only guy i knew who is very good at alternate clicking.
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You also wear your hand out alternate clicking because generally you're pressing down harder trying to keep your mouse from moving.
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I can alternate click pretty easily if the stack has only up to 5-6 and get all 300s. After that, it becomes a bit hard. As Ivalset mentioned, I do have a problem with moving the mouse and clicking if the circles are coming in really fast. I did try mouse + keyboard, yet I just can't get the feel for it. Guess I'll stick with alternate clicking and hope to get better ;o!
@lukewarmholiday: My hands haven't been worn out yet
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@lukewarmholiday: My hands haven't been worn out yet
!speaking of left click + keyboard button, i tend to do that also since it feels that i can press buttons faster when doing that.
like those stacks at the beginning of kanbu. i tend to press those really slow when using zx.
like those stacks at the beginning of kanbu. i tend to press those really slow when using zx.
Oh yeah, I also forgot, make sure you're not overshooting. Sometimes the rhythm isn't as fast as you think.
I use this with deathstacks and deathstreams too (most stacks though). Except I use C and a tablet tap.James wrote:
speaking of left click + keyboard button, i tend to do that also since it feels that i can press buttons faster when doing that.
like those stacks at the beginning of kanbu. i tend to press those really slow when using zx.
Steams are tougher for that though. Depending how fast stacks or streams are determines whether I use C/V or C/tap. I almost never use C/tap for anything less than 5 beats, and never for triplets (except Kanbu....).
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I can finally say with certainty, I'll never get use to this D:<!
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I have always used Z/X since i found out about it, and think it's much easier. But that's probably from playing lots of Guitar Hero, I think trills (quick alternating between two notes) are also the reason why I use my middle finger as 'primary' finger.
Practice.
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i used to play with the mouse. then i switched over to z/x. i couldn't even hold them down for spinners. it took some time to get used to z x but yea it's worth it imo because some streams feels like they are impossible with mouse ^^
Same here.Gabi wrote:
i used to play with the mouse. then i switched over to z/x. i couldn't even hold them down for spinners. it took some time to get used to z x but yea it's worth it imo because some streams feels like they are impossible with mouse ^^
Switching to the keyboard has been great. My only issue now is jumps (especially those jumps which go left-right-left-right quickly, and up or down, or at whatever angle... yanno) on the keyboard, which I was much better at with the mouse.
I do hold my mouse button down while spinning, though, mostly to keep my mouse gripped better. (I'm a wild spinner.)
This is what I do. I alternate tablet taps with z or x. If I actually had a mouse for my laptop, I would probably alternate z and x, thoughAn64fan wrote:
I use this with deathstacks and deathstreams too (most stacks though). Except I use C and a tablet tap.James wrote:
speaking of left click + keyboard button, i tend to do that also since it feels that i can press buttons faster when doing that.
like those stacks at the beginning of kanbu. i tend to press those really slow when using zx.
you could use zx for streams and for normal circle is mouse.
Try doing this map
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/20968
you have to use mouse but you can use the keyboard for practice , its not that hard,try it
Try doing this map
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/20968
you have to use mouse but you can use the keyboard for practice , its not that hard,try it
it's 囧rz XDSousei wrote:
Jiongrzzzz
i use zx to tap steams,and i will adjust my taping speed while playing
i also use 2 keyboard buttons and in a long stream i watch my mouse carefully - i often move faster than the steam and make a miss ><
Am I alone in the thought that deathstreams are exceedingly cheap and a really poor mapping utility?
Maybe it's because I still suck at the osu, but I can just not find anything appealing about mashing the surface of my mouse like an idiot just to get to bits of a song that are actually worth the effort..
Maybe it's because I still suck at the osu, but I can just not find anything appealing about mashing the surface of my mouse like an idiot just to get to bits of a song that are actually worth the effort..
^As said in previous posts. Use Z/X for streams if you are having a hard time.
Easier said than done, especially since I only discovered z/x yesterday..
But even then you're still playing tap-fu, just with the keyboard instead of the mouse which is only slightly easier.
But even then you're still playing tap-fu, just with the keyboard instead of the mouse which is only slightly easier.
Of course it will be hard if you're just starting out. Practice makes perfect ;o!
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I ALWAYS use Z/X no matter the situation.
My trick for long streams is tapping my foot to the tempo of the song at the same time as hitting Z/X. Usually the way it works is, There should be 4 Hit circles between each time you tap your foot to the tempo.
So it goes like this:
FT = Foot Tap
# = hit circles
Z/X = Keys Z and X
FT-------------FT-------------FT-------------FT-------------FT-------------FT-------------FT-------------FT-----------
-1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
-Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X
I'm not sure if this illustration makes any sense to anyone but for some reason I can get through most streams this way.
If you have trouble tapping with your foot, try counting 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4 to the tempo in your head repeatedly during the stream in question and alternate click 4 times on Z/X between each number you count.
That's my trick to beating those damn streams.
My trick for long streams is tapping my foot to the tempo of the song at the same time as hitting Z/X. Usually the way it works is, There should be 4 Hit circles between each time you tap your foot to the tempo.
So it goes like this:
FT = Foot Tap
# = hit circles
Z/X = Keys Z and X
FT-------------FT-------------FT-------------FT-------------FT-------------FT-------------FT-------------FT-----------
-1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4
-Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X - Z - X
I'm not sure if this illustration makes any sense to anyone but for some reason I can get through most streams this way.
If you have trouble tapping with your foot, try counting 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4 to the tempo in your head repeatedly during the stream in question and alternate click 4 times on Z/X between each number you count.
That's my trick to beating those damn streams.
lol nice technique i try it XD
QFT. very important to keep in mind. being able to control the speed of clicking/pushing your keys is the way to 300 a whole stack.Ivalset wrote:
Oh yeah, I also forgot, make sure you're not overshooting. Sometimes the rhythm isn't as fast as you think.
QFTx2Hanyuu wrote:
i also use 2 keyboard buttons and in a long stream i watch my mouse carefully - i often move faster than the steam and make a miss ><
its probably possible after some practice, but z+x or left + right mouse muttons would seem much easier to get used toKennjin wrote:
How about using the X button and the mouse X) ?
i know some people do play like that though
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I use left and right clicks only, and I turn out fine for streams.
Same here, but still perfer jumps
how do you get faster? 160 BPM looks like the limit for me.. to 300 all
Practice. A LOT.Hanyuu wrote:
how do you get faster? 160 BPM looks like the limit for me.. to 300 all
I know it sounds like something obvious, but it works.
Play 200~215 BPM with one key. Play 165~175 BPM with two keys. Dare to take on 175+ BPM with two keys.
A small list of training maps:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/7305
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/3861
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/8675
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/36077
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/25903
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/36601
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/4132
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/24733
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/21010
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/24555
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/29179
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/24595
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/20349
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/36354
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28366
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/34051
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/24548
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/29912
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/17906
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/26727
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/24539
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/26436
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1147
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/16266
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/22993
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/36952
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/313
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/31819
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/37810
When you get tired, stop playing for a while. You don't want to damage yourself for good!
Also, if you get tense, try relaxing during a break. Stay relaxed as long as you can while still playing effectively.
You can use z and x as well!? o_oTapdancingmetroid wrote:
Try using Z and X on the keyboard. It helps for those sorts of things.
Thanks, I was also having difficulty with these things and wasn't really getting better at the game.
im am getting better now BPM 170 plays good...
countless tries on marisa, candy galy, power of dream, utage..
still training
countless tries on marisa, candy galy, power of dream, utage..
still training
try playing kanbu around 500 times and you will get the hand of it
200 is still too fast for me
i bought a new keyboard yesterday because my old one some keys were so overused they stopped working lol...
i bought a new keyboard yesterday because my old one some keys were so overused they stopped working lol...
*reading this thread because I just played Marisa and I can't pass through that damned deathstreammmm - Aeris cries histerically*
I thought there would be a more realistic (to my eyes...since I'm not a pro, unfortunately) way to win them than just press x and y, since that's what I do everytime I try it but...I fail miserably doing it.
Well, I'll play it 4579 more times and I'll see what I can do. *sigh*
I thought there would be a more realistic (to my eyes...since I'm not a pro, unfortunately) way to win them than just press x and y, since that's what I do everytime I try it but...I fail miserably doing it.
Well, I'll play it 4579 more times and I'll see what I can do. *sigh*
If you can 300 the stacks and do well in the first stream, the only problems with the second stream are stamina and having to hold the keys slightly longer (else you risk combo breaks).Aeris wrote:
*reading this thread because I just played Marisa and I can't pass through that damned deathstreammmm - Aeris cries histerically*
I thought there would be a more realistic (to my eyes...since I'm not a pro, unfortunately) way to win them than just press x and y, since that's what I do everytime I try it but...I fail miserably doing it.
Well, I'll play it 4579 more times and I'll see what I can do. *sigh*
Stamina is the real problem T.T I feel like I can't hold too much...strager wrote:
Aeris wrote:
If you can 300 the stacks and do well in the first stream, the only problems with the second stream are stamina and having to hold the keys slightly longer (else you risk combo breaks).
Maybe if I try harder someday I'll get used to it *-*
ok here is another tip. play the following BPM's maps, 110,120,130,140,150,160,170,180 etc etc and FOCUS and remember a good pattern for pressing z/x. chances are you are doing it too fast sometimes(often with BPM's below 150).
you can't just simply press z/x and win, you need to listen to the beats in the BGM. really it will come naturally to you, and you will sync better with the BGM beats. eventually you will be able to hear the BGM and your z/x pressing ^^
i can't give you a good help for stamina except keep playing maps with 200BPM and give it your best.
you can't just simply press z/x and win, you need to listen to the beats in the BGM. really it will come naturally to you, and you will sync better with the BGM beats. eventually you will be able to hear the BGM and your z/x pressing ^^
i can't give you a good help for stamina except keep playing maps with 200BPM and give it your best.
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i am good with 180 now.. if its not veryyy long.. but im hopeless with 185 and 190
for stamina i play Final battle [vs Red] with 1 finger only 2 for stack to fc it.. its a very good training to concentrate on moving the hand..
also play2-3 times power of dream [darri mix] before i try fast maps.. i dont know why. this beatmap is the best to train
for stamina i play Final battle [vs Red] with 1 finger only 2 for stack to fc it.. its a very good training to concentrate on moving the hand..
also play2-3 times power of dream [darri mix] before i try fast maps.. i dont know why. this beatmap is the best to train
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Hmm, is it bad that I'm only using my left mouse button for deathstreams? The z/x thing throws my off, still. ._.
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How fast is your deathstream?Exidus3 wrote:
left mouse button for deathstreams
I generally fail at streams, but I'm getting better (300 on 170bpm).
I play right-hand mouse left-hand s/d keys.
This. I used to try and click all fast streams too quickly and raged that it went out of rhythm even when I "had it right". But then I noticed that I clicked way too fast.Ivalset wrote:
Oh yeah, I also forgot, make sure you're not overshooting. Sometimes the rhythm isn't as fast as you think.