League of Legends

PsychoSkill

Joined November 2010

PsychoSkill 2014-01-05T15:52:09+00:00

BrokenArrow wrote:
My Akali has beaten every fed Riven so far and Kassadin never gets picked because the enemy team ends up banning him anyways. And in case they don't, I still have my Talon and fuck him up so hard that he won't be able to transfer into midgame at all.

Btw, teamfighting with Akali in lower elo is actually quite simple, just get a Q mark on one of their carries, then jump in into a 1v5 and oneshot him because he doesn't expect it. Instantly go into shroud while waiting for your cooldowns, let your team follow up, oneshot their next carry and it's already won. Problem is that I don't always find ways to engage into the fight because carries tend to not get in range of my Q. :/
But I'd say Akali is the perfect noobstomper, in Season 4 I will hopefully have the chance to play against higher elo people with her too.

We don't talk about individuall skill when u speak about Strong/Op- Champs

GeeNX

1,081 posts

Joined June 2012

GeeNX 2014-01-05T15:56:36+00:00

This thread is getting funny lately. I dont want to offend anyone, but few people is actually saying things with logic.

Actually Riven can do shit in lane and still carry the game, you just need to rely a bit on your teammates.

PsychoSkill wrote:
We don't talk about individuall skill when u speak about Strong/Op- Champs

And I totally agree with you, there are some champs that at least, you need to have a bit of mechanics to pull of big plays, like... zed for example, I think it's very easy to shut down a bad zed, and a good zed can really fuck up your plans. With most OP champs I meant champs like... oh, Im getting focused, Im about to die, np I use Q+E+R on me and I do triple.

Champs with insane burst with low ap, with easy spells to land. Or just ridiculous CD's, that mostly Riven problem imo

Jordan

1,037 posts

Joined December 2010

Jordan 2014-01-05T16:03:45+00:00

Vulf wrote:
First of all where did I say she was OP in that post? There is a difference between feeding in lane, going even, and winning matchups. Riven does not need to snowball to be useful which is pretty much what you said, and she has the tools to be able to comeback if she does end up losing her lane.

Edit: If you have actually been paying attention to my post you'd know I am against a lot of nerfs Riot has been giving out lately. The only reason I agree with her E nerf is that it makes it more consistent with the whole doing damage while being tanky/free stats riot seems to hate so much.

Hmm yes I agree with the E duration nerf. Being able to pull off a permashield at max cdr is really annoying for the enemy. Besides that, I don't think she's OP too

TKiller

4,390 posts

Joined May 2009

TKiller 2014-01-05T16:39:08+00:00

I'm apparently 12-3 with Vlad, one of the most useless champions of this game in my opinion, yet 45-41 with Akali, who I know and play well, usually win my lane and roam the map like a fucking jet.

I don't understand something about carrying games.

My opinion > your opinion.

BrokenArrow

2,236 posts

Joined June 2010

BrokenArrow 2014-01-05T16:43:31+00:00

Best game of my life

Snepif

1,127 posts

Joined July 2010

Snepif 2014-01-05T20:11:37+00:00

SPOILER

omg
omg
omg
yes
even though I didn't play THAT well this game, all of my yes.

BrokenArrow

2,236 posts

Joined June 2010

BrokenArrow 2014-01-05T20:49:15+00:00

Snepif wrote:
SPOILER

omg
omg
omg
yes
even though I didn't play THAT well this game, all of my yes.

Gj!
I've been wondering about this for quite some time now.. isn't it actually almost completely wasted effort playing ranked during preseason so close before the softreset? Why not wait for the next season to start? I at least would hate to get promoted only to end up 3 divisions below in th next season anyways.

Vulf

17 posts

Joined November 2009

Vulf 2014-01-05T20:56:49+00:00

Edit: Confusing information. Sorry

Last edited by Vulf 2014-01-05T21:45:20+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Nofool

Elite Mapper

1,102 posts

Joined February 2011

Nofool 2014-01-05T21:04:30+00:00

Vulf wrote:
you won't get placed into anything higher than gold 1 even if you win 10/10.

really o_o ? link pls

Snepif

1,127 posts

Joined July 2010

Snepif 2014-01-05T21:15:27+00:00

If it's a soft elo reset, it's untrue that it's useless. Soft elo reset means your past season elo is still taken into account. Anyway I take it as a learning and improve experience above all, I want to become as good as humanly possible...

GeeNX

1,081 posts

Joined June 2012

GeeNX 2014-01-05T21:18:56+00:00

if I am not mistaken what soft reset means it's. (Actual ELO+MMR+1200)/3 and there is your soft reset, correct me if I am mistaken

Lets see how season four will start, I have high expectations for it, I have been training vs most of the best spanish teams, so I think my level improved a bit, obviously still far from them, but we stand chances

Snepif

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Joined July 2010

Snepif 2014-01-05T21:25:24+00:00

Yeah you are right I think, I knew it was something like elo+1200 but I didn't know exactly what.

Edit: I believe it's (MMR+1200)/2

Vulf

17 posts

Joined November 2009

Vulf 2014-01-05T21:44:20+00:00

There is a formula to calculate it, but there hasn't been an official Riot post claiming what is true or not. Season 3 was similar to the above one (MMR + 1200)/2. So if you are 2400 MMR the reset should put you at about 1800 which is Gold 1/Plat V. Where you are placed off that depends on how well you do in your placements. There was a post on reddit stating there is a cap, but not entirely sure if that's true or not.

I'll edit my other post so I don't cause a panic attack for people. LOL

Snepif

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Joined July 2010

Snepif 2014-01-06T00:26:32+00:00

Either way I'm happy. But I gotta learn more! Wonder when will S4 start.

TKiller

4,390 posts

Joined May 2009

TKiller 2014-01-06T01:58:24+00:00

Kinda concerned by the item nerfs coming up by the way.

10% CDR off Spirit Visage and level scaling damage on Sunfire are gonna hit my Zac in the nuts.

Might stick to cdr glyphs on him now but Sunfire is a large hit.

My opinion > your opinion.

pola[r]is

51 posts

Joined October 2013

pola[r]is 2014-01-06T02:31:12+00:00

As a Silver V scrub I can successfully say I'm a scrub at this game.
Period.

osssssssssss

Snepif

1,127 posts

Joined July 2010

Snepif 2014-01-06T02:33:03+00:00

It was for the greater good, I guess. In reality they should just raise the price a lil' bit or just nerf the champs that abuse it but mmmhm...

Vulf

17 posts

Joined November 2009

Vulf 2014-01-06T02:39:42+00:00

Spirit visage was being abused by manaless tops too hard and sunfire was being used as a snowball item. Those nerfs were totally justified. lol

TKiller

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Joined May 2009

TKiller 2014-01-06T04:31:07+00:00

Spirit Visage was op, hands down. It just sucks that it's the only CDR item it makes sense to build on laning Zac.

But the sunfire is kinda eeeeeh. Making it break even at level 15, I don't really know. It's still kinda ok to enable pushing on certain champions and less Lee/Vi players rushing sunfire after 1 damage item is kinda good. But on Zac, where the whole champion mechanic requires you to prolong fights, that early damage is crucial. Dealing, say, 6 less damage per second is like dealing 150 less damage through the whole fight where you try to secure the kill. Add the general laning to that and eeeeeeh.

Dunno, maybe I'm overreacting. Needs testing.

My opinion > your opinion.

Snepif

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Joined July 2010

Snepif 2014-01-06T04:39:41+00:00

Well then the problem is Zac, not the item. What you mean is that Zac needs a buff.

TKiller

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Joined May 2009

TKiller 2014-01-06T04:49:57+00:00

Might be and I'm viewing Sunfire from Zac point of view. But I still see a lot less point in building Sunfire at all. You can slowly build Randuin's to gain armor and health.

But then again if you don't build it at all it's 43 dps less late game. And being personal again, considering I use 14 pen page on Zac, Liadry's and often sorc boots it seems like a lot of a loss on paper but is it really?

I'm confused. Riot why.

My opinion > your opinion.

Vulf

17 posts

Joined November 2009

Vulf 2014-01-06T12:43:24+00:00

You can pretty much rush a sunfire and win top lane because the 40 damage per second aura is stupidly strong early game and makes it impossible for your lane opponent to trade with you. That's why it's getting nerfed.

Spirit visage should have never been buffed. It was a niche item for some healers but nope Riot had to make it good on every bruiser and tank because not getting full benefit from the passive is toxic and antifun.

BrokenArrow

2,236 posts

Joined June 2010

BrokenArrow 2014-01-06T14:02:42+00:00

On another note, AP Malphite is actually pretty fun.

maal

maal 2014-01-06T14:33:06+00:00

SPOILER

hue

Fabi

1,130 posts

Joined September 2009

Fabi 2014-01-06T14:39:45+00:00

maal wrote:
SPOILER

hue

Niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

TKiller

4,390 posts

Joined May 2009

TKiller 2014-01-06T14:46:38+00:00

Vulf wrote:
You can pretty much rush a sunfire and win top lane because the 40 damage per second aura is stupidly strong early game and makes it impossible for your lane opponent to trade with you. That's why it's getting nerfed.

Spirit visage should have never been buffed. It was a niche item for some healers but nope Riot had to make it good on every bruiser and tank because not getting full benefit from the passive is toxic and antifun.

Good AD/lifesteal laners destroy Sunfire rush builds. With probably an exception of Mundo.

But there's a lot of trading and laning skill to take into account, on paper Sunfire is better.

My opinion > your opinion.

Vulf

17 posts

Joined November 2009

Vulf 2014-01-06T15:17:09+00:00

I still think it is a very stupid item and I am glad it's getting nerfed. Sunfire cape has been an incredibly powerful item for a very long time now and no one has really noticed until tanks became retarded with the new defensive tree.

I pretty much rush it on Warwick in every lane except jungle and never lose after that.

Sapphiire_old_1

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Joined July 2013

Sapphiire_old_1 2014-01-06T17:46:56+00:00

anny tips on how to lvl a smurf account fast ? i wanna make a challenge for myself and make a Teemo only account see how far i can get with it :p

GeeNX

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Joined June 2012

GeeNX 2014-01-06T17:49:19+00:00

I don't know what impact will have the new sunfire, hope it's still viable since I build it with so many junglers, and about spirit visage, well, it was okay being buffed, but they just buffed it way too much, I still miss force of the nature

Kanye West

2,222 posts

Joined July 2011

Kanye West 2014-01-06T18:01:45+00:00

Force of Nature was the best, Spirit Visage is shit, fuck that item. I think it's hilarious how Riot wanted to get rid of sustain when they did that huge healing nerf and then they buff a sustain item. Ridiculous.

Vulf

17 posts

Joined November 2009

Vulf 2014-01-06T18:26:19+00:00

My point exactly. Old Spirit Visage was a perfectly fine niche item i.e. effective on like 3 champions, decent on like 5 others. Now it's pretty much being nefed into a worse state than the old one LMAO.

Now people are wanting Wit's End to be viable on more stuff. LOL

Only items that are truly terrible at this point are Atmas (though I don't ever want this to come back) and Executioners Calling (which could be decent with a good upgrade for late game).

Snepif

1,127 posts

Joined July 2010

Snepif 2014-01-06T20:33:50+00:00

Force of Nature was an instawin with Singed and Udyr LOL

GeeNX

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Joined June 2012

GeeNX 2014-01-06T21:28:24+00:00

I still remember mordekaiser force of the nature, warmog and thornmail, when I was a newbie I called them THE 3 EMPEROR ARMORS, and having those 3 on morde meant = win

Sapphiire_old_1

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Sapphiire_old_1 2014-01-06T21:44:32+00:00

Yeah thats was OP

this is how morde was played back in the days :

1) Warden's Mail, build into Omen.
2) Spirit Visage
3) Boots of choice
4) Situational, although often Force of Nature or Thornmail

Reasoning is this:

Mordekaiser's shield is affected by armor and MR, so by increase these two stats, increase the effective HP of his shield.

HP/Regen comes on 2 of core items, nice bonus, negates the HP cost of his spells.

Cooldown reduction - this was so powerful on Mordekaiser. Allowed to spam spells quicker for more damage AND replenish my shield so much faster.

Snepif

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Snepif 2014-01-06T22:15:36+00:00

Errr, BAAACK in the day, Morde was played with 6 Hextech Revolvers HEHEHEHE.

Sapphiire_old_1

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Sapphiire_old_1 2014-01-06T22:20:07+00:00