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This is a feature request. Feature requests can be voted up by supporters.
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TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
8,436 posts
Joined March 2010
TheVileOne
If you want this, please check General Development.

This code could be used for other things as well such as multiplayer spectate. This should be even more initiative to support this idea. On a side note: This implementation would be one step closer to LAN connection options that peppy said he didn't have plans for. If you want these things and know how to make a video and map, please help.

Now to get back on topic, I imagine there to be an collaborative mapping chat, who wants this? Something that opens to all participants. The code is already there waiting to be repurposed. It would be nice to be able to send private messages that would be received by multiple participants in game.

The more I think about it, the more I want this.
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest

TheVileOne wrote:

Now to get back on topic, I imagine there to be an collaborative mapping chat, who wants this? Something that opens to all participants. The code is already there waiting to be repurposed. It would be nice to be able to send private messages that would be received by multiple participants in game.

The more I think about it, the more I want this.
A collaborative mapping chat without having to press F8 would be so awesome.
jemhuntr
933 posts
Joined February 2012
jemhuntr
Damn I totally forgot about the videos.
Kuro
836 posts
Joined July 2012
Kuro
Something more like live editing, where you and other collaborators can place objects in real time. Sort of like, inviting friends to create worlds with you in LBP, in which everything is done in real time.
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest

Kuro wrote:

Something more like live editing, where you and other collaborators can place objects in real time. Sort of like, inviting friends to create worlds with you in LBP, in which everything is done in real time.
Sounds like this feature request. What exactly did you wish to accomplish with this statement? Is it related to whatever "LBP" is?
MillhioreF
Pro Tester
5,004 posts
Joined July 2011
MillhioreF
"LBP" is LittleBigPlanet, where you can invite friends to join edit mode with you and let them modify things along with you. It's pretty much the ideal for multiplayer editing.
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
theowest

MillhioreF wrote:

From the OP of the collab mapping thread:

cheesiest wrote:

There'd be a supervisor(the map creator), and the others in the room. The supervisor can give permissions to people in that room to either start placing objects and inherited sections, add hitsounds, and any other thing that would fit.
The supervisor could deny any kind of editing privileges to the others in the room, essentially only letting them spectate.
Great point!
Kitsunemimi
2,188 posts
Joined April 2009
Kitsunemimi
This is the best feature request in the world and you should all pile all your stars onto it.
cheesiest
721 posts
Joined September 2009
Topic Starter
cheesiest

Kitsunemimi wrote:

This is the best feature request in the world and you should all pile all your stars onto it.
I concur with this statement.
Irreversible
osu! Alumni
4,317 posts
Joined December 2011
Irreversible
i love that idea, support~ This idea should really get more attention
Nines
392 posts
Joined May 2013
Nines

MillhioreF wrote:

"LBP" is LittleBigPlanet, where you can invite friends to join edit mode with you and let them modify things along with you. It's pretty much the ideal for multiplayer editing.
My gawd I love that game......

Anyways, maybe it could be like a multiplayer lobby sort of thing, where players will join a room, let the host choose the song, and have everyone ready up to start the live editing. I'm not sure how to keep out strangers other than making this room private by default and making invite only, but I'm just throwing out ideas :P
markesudes
15 posts
Joined July 2013
markesudes
Is it really possible ?
I support without star for the moment, it seems to me too difficult.
[Luxord]
503 posts
Joined August 2011
[Luxord]
if I had votes I would shoot them all at this request. This feature will be really awesome and helpful.
Metal
104 posts
Joined March 2013
Metal
wow

pls

i wanna collab moar and this would make my life easier

love the idea
Kemdo
148 posts
Joined September 2012
Kemdo
This would be quite useful if people wanted to teach others how to map ; ___ ;
Tutorials have not done me any good :L
- Marco -
Technical Support Team
8,525 posts
Joined December 2011
- Marco -
Support. 0 stars >:(
PyaKura
2,084 posts
Joined January 2013
PyaKura
Great feature suggestion. Need more videos. :3
cheesiest
721 posts
Joined September 2009
Topic Starter
cheesiest
can i bumP? idk
reviving
Deventious
10 posts
Joined May 2012
Deventious
Love the idea, would need a lot of support though, that's a huge update, a whole new feature.. worth it imo.
izzydemon
1,382 posts
Joined April 2013
izzydemon
this is fucking genius omg
D33d
1,699 posts
Joined April 2011
D33d
Definitely supporting. This needs to happen. Collabs can be painfully slow, especially when taking into account timezone differences.
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny
kind of like a google doc?

i'd really like this
Raose
698 posts
Joined July 2012
Raose
s u p p o r t
Timorisu
772 posts
Joined November 2012
Timorisu

Raose wrote:

s u p p o r t
_dog
171 posts
Joined August 2012
_dog
I've had plans for video mapping tutorials for awhile but my mic broke. I could setup my phone mic again, but will probably wait until I get a new mic.

Suggestions:
also it would be nice to be able to see the a coloured circled where your partners cursor is and it has there name in a box next to the cursor so when collabing with multiple people you can see who is placing what. Also a non f8 chatbox in the corner with appearing actions, such as "mapper1 just rotated on 'time'." "mapper2 just removed a slider on 'time'." Also, it'd be nice to assign actual roles such as storyboarder where the storyboarder is creating themselves, and to prevent any lag problems has a button when they want to send the files of the sb to all the other people and the room, and once clicking the button each player in the room can click yes or no if they want the file at the moment depending on what they are doing and their net.

Also, this would mean implementing multiple creators into the metadata, so on the menu maybe a button next to the song on the seleet screen that shows all the creators and the main creator in the normal spot as it is right now. Also, this goes to the whole bookmark suggestion I made in #modhelp but never had a chance to request, bookmarks not only let you jump to places quickly, but you can place notes on the bookmarks. So when on a bookmark there is a button where all the other bookmark tools and once clicked, you can enter in a note and save, that note will be able to read by all members and you and can only be deleted by the creator.
Zexous
713 posts
Joined July 2012
Zexous
yes please
Hard
696 posts
Joined February 2013
Hard
i'd support this to. well i did :D
theleoleole
117 posts
Joined February 2013
theleoleole
Wow that's a very genius idea :D
GenoClysm
181 posts
Joined July 2013
GenoClysm
This is an interesting idea. +2
osu!drive much
Kardet
73 posts
Joined March 2012
Kardet
Not sure if I would ever use this, (since I'm terrible at mapping) but it seems like a really cool idea and I would love to see it implemented.

+26 ;)
Riari
743 posts
Joined April 2013
Riari

Kardet wrote:

Not sure if I would ever use this, (since I'm terrible at mapping) but it seems like a really cool idea and I would love to see it implemented.

+26 ;)
Same here.

+10
HanzeR
921 posts
Joined May 2012
HanzeR
have my little stars (ж＞▽＜)ｙ ☆
Liiraye
1,354 posts
Joined December 2011
Liiraye
+6 for LiinzeR ltd
_dog
171 posts
Joined August 2012
_dog
welp seeing as im in the process of ordering a mic once it gets here ill be making tutorials daily each being short to about 5 - 10 minutes except for the longer ones being the introduction and explanations on how to use them together. I;m looking for a good creative commons song i can use for the tutorials
cheesiest
721 posts
Joined September 2009
Topic Starter
cheesiest
Thanks so much you guys for your support! (-:
Avena
2,158 posts
Joined December 2012
Avena
No stars to give but YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
gogo mapping spectation o3o
Azer
World Cup Organiser
1,108 posts
Joined December 2012
Azer
oh hey stars
[Luanny]
8,248 posts
Joined April 2011
[Luanny]
why isn't this a thing yet?
Starz0r
197 posts
Joined March 2012
Starz0r

[Luanny] wrote:

why isn't this a thing yet?
I think peppy said why somewhere in this thread. :P

EDIT: Found It!

peppy wrote:

I'll make a deal: If someone creates a series of video tutorials on mapping in osu! – something I've hoped would have been done by now without even having to ask – I will put everything to one side and make something like this happen. This is not a new idea, and it is something I have been keen to implement, but there is a lot involved in making it work correctly.

Hell, I might even settle for new video tutorials on installing and loading new maps into osu! or anything really. I's so sad to see so few quality tutorial videos :(.
TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
8,436 posts
Joined March 2010
TheVileOne
ztrot is hard at work to convince peppy into making this happen. Everyone randomly PM him with appreciation.

@ztrot trollface
Osu Mapman
2,514 posts
Joined August 2012
Osu Mapman

Raose wrote:

s u p p o r t
Enipizza
2 posts
Joined January 2012
Enipizza
Take my star !
Japowpow
30 posts
Joined July 2013
Japowpow
I was told to show support for this idea. Ok cheesiest.

I support this idea.

Edit: No star ;_; maybe i will come back later with one
captin1
osu! Alumni
2,608 posts
Joined February 2011
captin1
I gave a couple stars :3
Kurokocchi
66 posts
Joined August 2013
Kurokocchi
+1 for a great idea :D
_dog
171 posts
Joined August 2012
_dog
tutorials coming soon seeing as my mic arrives tomorrow but firat need my tongue and gums to heal because of bullshit
[ Scarlet Red ]
380 posts
Joined September 2013
[ Scarlet Red ]
This could be epic, you and a group of friends making a map together, it could make maps be done in less time than normal. Even teaching a friend how to map would be easier! I really do believe this should be implimented!!!
Timorisu
772 posts
Joined November 2012
Timorisu

Timorisu wrote:

Raose wrote:

s u p p o r t
²

6 stars :)
Coffee Hero
Coffee Hero
I would love to see this :)
AGRX
540 posts
Joined May 2013
AGRX
SUPPORT 50 VOTES!
SuperMIC
420 posts
Joined July 2011
SuperMIC
I think this would be a great idea that promotes collaboration :O

support
Hard
696 posts
Joined February 2013
Hard
support! I support this hard! OMG !

Imagine how awesome this would be to TEACH mapping, but also to collab together. So nice. So gut.
Liiraye
1,354 posts
Joined December 2011
Liiraye

peppy wrote:

I'll make a deal: If someone creates a series of video tutorials on mapping in osu! – something I've hoped would have been done by now without even having to ask – I will put everything to one side and make something like this happen. This is not a new idea, and it is something I have been keen to implement, but there is a lot involved in making it work correctly.

Hell, I might even settle for new video tutorials on installing and loading new maps into osu! or anything really. I's so sad to see so few quality tutorial videos :(.

I soo hope this is one of the 2014 big surprises! :D
meigs2
12 posts
Joined April 2013
meigs2
What mapping videos have been made? I'd be more than happy to make a few to get this implemented! I have enough knowledge on mapping to make some basic tutorials like timing a map or setting the offset and some basic mapping techniques. I guess I'll also make some videos on some basic stuff like setting your universal offset and using a skin. What other videos should I make?

+support
Liiraye
1,354 posts
Joined December 2011
Liiraye

meigs2 wrote:

What mapping videos have been made? I'd be more than happy to make a few to get this implemented! I have enough knowledge on mapping to make some basic tutorials like timing a map or setting the offset and some basic mapping techniques. I guess I'll also make some videos on some basic stuff like setting your universal offset and using a skin. What other videos should I make?

+support

http://www.youtube.com/user/osuacademy/videos


We don't have to do anything, it's already done and more vids keep coming out by a selected few people. All we have to do now is to await this feature! :)
meigs2
12 posts
Joined April 2013
meigs2

Liiraye wrote:

meigs2 wrote:

What mapping videos have been made? I'd be more than happy to make a few to get this implemented! I have enough knowledge on mapping to make some basic tutorials like timing a map or setting the offset and some basic mapping techniques. I guess I'll also make some videos on some basic stuff like setting your universal offset and using a skin. What other videos should I make?

+support

http://www.youtube.com/user/osuacademy/videos


We don't have to do anything, it's already done and more vids keep coming out by a selected few people. All we have to do now is to await this feature! :)
Perfect. Thanks!
Wafu
1,703 posts
Joined June 2011
Wafu
Will be hard to implement.. but I still support this. However if it doesn't happen, there could be at least ability to give a mapper permission to update his own difficulty.
Shizuroh
1,771 posts
Joined October 2010
Shizuroh
wawwwwww +vote
dennischan
454 posts
Joined June 2013
dennischan
Whoops no votes ~~~
Yet absolutely support this idea! Best idea seen on this subforum~
(reviving this thread)
xtrem3x
1,789 posts
Joined July 2009
xtrem3x
4 stars for this idea XDDD
Liiraye
1,354 posts
Joined December 2011
Liiraye
A status update from peppy would be great...
Jaxalotl
189 posts
Joined December 2012
Jaxalotl
I support this.


It would be good for this to be implemented.

Go Go Go peppy o/
PyaKura
2,084 posts
Joined January 2013
PyaKura
As much as I'd like to see this feature implemented, remember what peppy said a few pages back :

peppy wrote:

I'll make a deal: If someone creates a series of video tutorials on mapping in osu! – something I've hoped would have been done by now without even having to ask – I will put everything to one side and make something like this happen. This is not a new idea, and it is something I have been keen to implement, but there is a lot involved in making it work correctly.

Hell, I might even settle for new video tutorials on installing and loading new maps into osu! or anything really. I's so sad to see so few quality tutorial videos :(.
Giving this feature req more stars isn't going to lead us anywhere lol

I have plans of making mania mapping tuts, but o!m isn't the main mode.
Would ztrot's osu!academy count towards this goal ? :'D
onotoleonide
onotoleonide
cool yeah
Liiraye
1,354 posts
Joined December 2011
Liiraye
Just got it confirmed that peppy is planning on making it (at least before he dies), he just has a lot to do.

Probably doesnt say much but at least it's confirmed that it will be done some day

shoumei
Kuki
722 posts
Joined October 2013
Kuki
Fantastic Idea! I hope someone does make a set of video tutorials o:
WingSilent
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Joined August 2012
WingSilent
Sounds like a great idea. :)
PyaKura
2,084 posts
Joined January 2013
PyaKura

Liiraye wrote:

Just got it confirmed that peppy is planning on making it (at least before he dies), he just has a lot to do.

Probably doesnt say much but at least it's confirmed that it will be done some day

shoumei
Made me smile. That's true, shitloads of things have to be done beforehand, but I'm glad the idea has not been thrown away.
Satyrsaw
89 posts
Joined March 2013
Satyrsaw
This you a great idea. But i haven seen the post of the comfimation of this. Btw Ztrot has been working an a great series, realy great job. So that might be the videos that peppy asked for.
Liiraye
1,354 posts
Joined December 2011
Liiraye

Satyrsaw wrote:

This you a great idea. But i haven seen the post of the comfimation of this. Btw Ztrot has been working an a great series, realy great job. So that might be the videos that peppy asked for.

Liiraye wrote:

Just got it confirmed that peppy is planning on making it (at least before he dies), he just has a lot to do.

Probably doesnt say much but at least it's confirmed that it will be done some day

shoumei
Why don't people read? it's literally the post before yours
Okoayu
Nomination Assessment Team
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Okoayu
I just don't want this to be on the 3rd page because this is such a great idea and you have my support on this
Sakurai Miyo
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Sakurai Miyo


Happy 1000 Stars!
xasuma
The First Completionist
1,011 posts
Joined August 2013
xasuma
I agree, this is an amazing idea. Please implement, I would like to learn how to map ^^ and this would be fun.
Eni
1,437 posts
Joined May 2013
Eni
Bumping this.

Mapper spectate could also be incorporated with live mapping.
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Suisei Hosimati
3,049 posts
Joined March 2013
Suisei Hosimati
Why is not gonna be a real feature? It's 2 years already
Comet
82 posts
Joined June 2014
Comet
It's been a fair amount of time.

Are you still looking for mapping tutorials, peppy, or is your wish fulfilled? :P
AndRay2014
28 posts
Joined December 2014
AndRay2014
Guys, I wanted to ask a question.
If this feature is implemented, will peppy have enough server capacity to handle this? Say, we have average 15000 people connnected.
I know .osu files are light but we already have multiplaying, normal playing scores, calculating PP, chatting, wiki posts and normal BSS.

Don't get me wrong though, I really liked the idea. I just want to know if this can be done
xasuma
The First Completionist
1,011 posts
Joined August 2013
xasuma

AndRay2014 wrote:

Guys, I wanted to ask a question.
If this feature is implemented, will peppy have enough server capacity to handle this? Say, we have average 15000 people connnected.
I know .osu files are light but we already have multiplaying, normal playing scores, calculating PP, chatting, wiki posts and normal BSS.

Don't get me wrong though, I really liked the idea. I just want to know if this can be done
Server capacity is not an issue.
Landorus
24 posts
Joined April 2011
Landorus
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MouseEasy
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Joined April 2012
MouseEasy
this is a good idea!
Oinari-sama
osu! Alumni
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Oinari-sama
t/108829?
Landorus
24 posts
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Landorus
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Oinari-sama
osu! Alumni
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Joined July 2010
Oinari-sama
Great! This will be a nice addition :D
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Nuolong
1,032 posts
Joined August 2014
Nuolong
I want to have this so badly &_& It would be so awesome 8-)
yugijedi
151 posts
Joined December 2012
yugijedi

ashihiro wrote:

Well, as measured by the game itself: Mod, get help.

Why not raise this concept? Why not take the improvement of mappers to a new level?

With the Edit / Modding Room, the mapper can take help of modding in real time, the mapper can make changes and modders he can give ideas and invite their views during the edit, making it much faster and easy way to map.

Moreover, it can be also used a "personal" chat mapper and their modders and the system of "notes", where a modder have a suggestion it adds a note, and it will appear as a "post-it" on screen mapper and click it to see what is in the message.

As soon as possible will be putting pictures as would be the Edit / Modding Room.


Edit #1:
Some pictures of Edit / Modding Room




Edit #2: The command to add your modders to the room chat could be "/modinvite Nickname"
And they receive the join link in pm.



Johan.
Why don't you call it the modding spectator mode ;)
the mapper can send something like a "spectate request" to the modder who mods his map and the modder can accept or decline (maybe he don't want to be spectated during editing) and if he accept the mapper can really spectate the modder during editing and see what the modder's suggestions are (so you don't have to use puush everythime if you want to make a slidershape suggestion)

Would be so much more linked with the game osu! I think that will increase the participation at mapping and modding of players much!
George
George
it sounds like google docs
Lach
1,118 posts
Joined November 2012
Lach
Bumping this thread in hopes that this may come to fruition now that we've had osu!academy for over a year now.
abraker
Global Moderator
8,356 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker
Look at all the mapping vids
osu!academy Time Lapse Mapping! Miqz - Sound of my Dream [Easy]
osu!academy Time Lapse Mapping! Miqz - Sound of my Dream [Normal]
osu!academy Time Lapse Mapping! Miqz - Sound of my Dream [Hard]
osu!talk Guest difficulties Vs Single mapper set!
osu!academy Time Lapse Mapping! Miqz - Sound of my Dream
osu!academy Episode 31 - Guest mapping and contributions limits
osu!talk special Over Mapping
osu!academy Episode 30 - Storyboard Basics! 2
osu!academy Episode 29 - Storyboard Basics!
osu!academy Episode 27 - Guest Mapping
osu!academy Episode - 23 Community Modding! Feat.Shiro
osu!academy Episode - 16 Mania Editor Basics
osu!academy Episode - 14 CtB Mapping Basics
osu!academy Episode - 12 Taiko Mapping Basics
osu!academy Episode - 10 Modding Part 2
osu!academy Episode - 9 Modding Part 1
osu!academy Episode 8 - Hitsounds
osu!academy Episode 7-3 - Grids
osu!academy Episode 7-2 - Timing Basics
osu!academy Episode 7-1 - Slider Creation Basics
osu!academy Episode 7 - Mapping Editor Basics
[ iL ]
29 posts
Joined September 2013
[ iL ]
*intent stare*
This would be awesome. Could people without editing permissions playtest the map? That'd be neat.
Spaghetti
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Joined August 2014
Spaghetti

George wrote:

it sounds like google docs
Liiraye
1,354 posts
Joined December 2011
Liiraye
Over a year ago peppy said that he will finish it some day as long as he's alive, and seeing as there has been no mention of it, I'm assuming he hasn't started yet. Regardless, I'd like to hear something because this request is wanted by so many people and deserves a higher priority IMO. I get that pepsi has a LOT to do but you can always wish right? After all, you did say that you'd put everything to one side and make this happen...

I'll make a deal: If someone creates a series of video tutorials on mapping in osu! – something I've hoped would have been done by now without even having to ask – I will put everything to one side and make something like this happen.
Sir Lance
18 posts
Joined October 2014
Sir Lance
Take my stars. I need this in my life.
Crowie
osu!artist
328 posts
Joined August 2015
Crowie
Hopefully this will happen for osu!next?
ffstar
513 posts
Joined October 2011
ffstar
good idea!
Tae
1,077 posts
Joined June 2015
Tae
yes please
Frolski
131 posts
Joined October 2014
Frolski
Very good idea. That would be useful.
Sylvette
332 posts
Joined July 2015
Sylvette

peppy wrote:

I'll make a deal: If someone creates a series of video tutorials on mapping in osu! – something I've hoped would have been done by now without even having to ask – I will put everything to one side and make something like this happen. This is not a new idea, and it is something I have been keen to implement, but there is a lot involved in making it work correctly.

Hell, I might even settle for new video tutorials on installing and loading new maps into osu! or anything really. I's so sad to see so few quality tutorial videos :(.
PEPPY THERE'S BEEN TONS OF SERIES CREATED NOW WHERE THE FUDGE IS THIS??????????????!?!?!?!?!?!!?

Please don't take this seriously.
Erebos
13 posts
Joined August 2014
Erebos
I think it'd be a slightly better idea that instead of giving people permissions, there'd be the host with the map open, and experienced mappers and qualified helpers, likely designated in some weird way, can give the host feedback via chat, and unofficially placing "notes" that the host can refer back to (Kinda like a shadow note that doesn't affect the mapping, but can be seen as a way to help w.o doing it for them). Others who would also like to learn could also spectate the mapping room+chat to reduce the amount of rooms that would be live.
-Kyu
487 posts
Joined October 2015
-Kyu

peppy wrote:

I'll make a deal: If someone creates a series of video tutorials on mapping in osu! – something I've hoped would have been done by now without even having to ask – I will put everything to one side and make something like this happen. This is not a new idea, and it is something I have been keen to implement, but there is a lot involved in making it work correctly.

Hell, I might even settle for new video tutorials on installing and loading new maps into osu! or anything really. I's so sad to see so few quality tutorial videos :(.

Sorry for necropost,but does pishi's mapping tutorial counts?

DO IT PEPPY
CoffeeDrream
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CoffeeDrream
amazin
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