There is no change. The deadline will remain the same, which is one week.CalignoBot wrote:
@Mod: How is the deadline affected when the leader is elected?
Not exactly. Town has 5 townies and 3 PRs, while the scum can claim whatever they want. They could even claim extra 3 PRs, but that would make a 50% lynch, which is nonsense.fartownik wrote:
3 scum will surely be in the VTs so the chances of a scumlynch will be 3/8.
y u do this ;_;Nyquill wrote:
pvote: kevinchela
are you tard or whatfartownik wrote:
Hi, if we massclaim today and everyone cooperates (from Town) we'll have 4 confirmed Townies (3 PRs + 1 Backup) vs 8 unconfirmed Vanilla Townies. 3 scum will surely be in the VTs so the chances of a scumlynch will be 3/8.
FAQ: 1. YES, I know we give ourselves for scum, but it will be easier for us to scumhunt out of 8 instead of out of 12.
2. YES, I know that if someone from Town fakeclaims then we're fucked. That's why we need everyone agreed on what we do here.
We don't claim roles. We only claim whether we are PRs or non-PRs (VTs). A number is enough to establish whether someone is Town or not. Claim can be done similarly to NH's claim in Stack the Deck (Two Style).
Not useless, but less powerful. And I've never said we have to claim roles.[/quote]CalignoBot wrote:
I fully disagree with massclaiming roles.
1. Claiming roles will just as likely make them useless as not.
Seriously, I said it already. Was there really a necessity to repeat it?CalignoBot wrote:
2. If we're ever doing this at all, we're NOT claiming roles, only that they are a PR. This is primarily due to the above. It gives the mafia a better chance to blend in, but our PRs won't be basically useless for most of the game either. This is still something I don't recommend doing.
This is the same situation as Stacking the Deck way back, except only slightly better.
are you tard or whatScum is pulling a 2/5 gambit if they want to claim PR. They can't just hop and claim it like a fucking boss and no one notices.
let's say we do this, do you really think scum will all claim vt?
if 1 scum claims pr and 2 scum claim vt your plan has NO SENSE at all and it only advantages scum because we reveal who's PR
again farto, i hope you're scum when you say these things, because if you aren't you are just tard
we're NOT doing this bullshit
ScummmCalignoBot wrote:
Also, everyone who voted to lead themselves so far has pretty much eliminated any chances of me actually voting for them today.
the dumbest thing is saying that massclaiming d1 is the dumbest thingTanzklaue wrote:
back inmmy day massclaiming at day 1 was the dumbest thing. it continues to be the dumbest thing and I won't agree to any plans of massclaiming on day 1 ever. the probability for town to get insta scum is too low at this point to warrant a massclaim.
Yes, you explained it with a shitty reason.Sephibro wrote:
in this case it's dumb and i explained why it is, in another case it could be the best thing to doTanzklaue wrote:
back inmmy day massclaiming at day 1 was the dumbest thing. it continues to be the dumbest thing and I won't agree to any plans of massclaiming on day 1 ever. the probability for town to get insta scum is too low at this point to warrant a massclaim.
just to teach you some maths, it's 2/5 gambit ONLY if scum has to claim first..the real chance scum gets away with a lucky claim is actually >than 50%fartownik wrote:
are you tard or whatScum is pulling a 2/5 gambit if they want to claim PR. They can't just hop and claim it like a fucking boss and no one notices.
let's say we do this, do you really think scum will all claim vt?
if 1 scum claims pr and 2 scum claim vt your plan has NO SENSE at all and it only advantages scum because we reveal who's PR
again farto, i hope you're scum when you say these things, because if you aren't you are just tard
we're NOT doing this bullshit
Both yours and Caligno's arguments smell scum defending themselves from the massclaim.
Because I asked you a question 1 minute after your reply? ;oIrreversible wrote:
What the fuck, I don't have to stay here 24/7, what's wrong with your gameplay? seriously
oh i see that you're well informedfartownik wrote:
That you are Town.
you can be townCTs-Th wrote:
Ahhhh... math...
I don't see anything useful in this RANDOM VOTE.CTs-Th wrote:
Let's see...
Vote: pieguy1372
Random vote is random... XD
Congratulations, you've figured out a lot of my very early game town strategy.fartownik wrote:
I don't see how it indicates alignment anyhow, you're making something up.
I don't think leader voting is enough of a deal to consider what CTs did as Town. Your read doesn't speak to me at all.CalignoBot wrote:
Congratulations, you've figured out a lot of my very early game town strategy.fartownik wrote:
I don't see how it indicates alignment anyhow, you're making something up.
But in all seriousness, I already answered that point. In a game where you vote for who you think is town, RVS suddenly becomes a hell of a lot less useful since votes are the most anti-pressure thing you can do. Voting for someone else, even at random, is a hell of a lot more useful than that.
So why exactly are pieguy and kevincela not in the same vote? Because they bandwagoned.
Incorrect. I would never elect a pro-town with reads that are complete shit.Jinxy wrote:
Obviously the most pro-town should be chosen
Okay.CalignoBot wrote:
If you have any ideas for concrete reads based on what we have so far, I'm all ears.
"and flips scum."Irreversible wrote:
Said the one who wants to massclaim all the time, and flips scum.
So you prefer to pick the scummiest one out of all?CalignoBot wrote:
Incorrect. I would never elect a pro-town with reads that are complete shit.Jinxy wrote:
Obviously the most pro-town should be chosen
this doesn't make sense, if you see someone pro-town that means you already have a town read, and does that mean you would rather lynch someone scummy?CalignoBot wrote:
Incorrect. I would never elect a pro-town with reads that are complete shit.Jinxy wrote:
Obviously the most pro-town should be chosen
fartownik wrote:
So you prefer to pick the scummiest one out of all?CalignoBot wrote:
Incorrect. I would never elect a pro-town with reads that are complete shit.
I find this response incredibly interesting, as it completely assumes that I'll only ever have one town read in the entire game.Nyquill wrote:
this doesn't make sense, if you see someone pro-town that means you already have a town read, and does that mean you would rather lynch someone scummy?CalignoBot wrote:
Incorrect. I would never elect a pro-town with reads that are complete shit.
WAT?CalignoBot wrote:
Now let's continue with voting for CTs, thanks.
NO!fartownik wrote:
Caligno, so you want CTs as the Leader? Are you sure?
For example, X is a conftown. However, he thinks Y and Z are scum and basically tunnels on them, despite the rest of the players not agreeing with him. If he gets voted to be leader, he might lynch Y or Z over what the majority wants. And the majority doesn't want that to happen. You know, a little like p/2464657 .Nyquill wrote:
no what the actual fuck I have no clue what calignobot is talking about, someone else understand?
tbh it doesn't really seem a good motivation. Just because he didn't reply to your question there doesen't necessarily mean he's a scum, I don't think that this kind of attitude is so suspicious right now :\fartownik wrote:
"and flips scum."Irreversible wrote:
Said the one who wants to massclaim all the time, and flips scum.
I still don't get this part.
Also 1 minute after that, I asked him a question. He didn't reply to it for about an hour so I called him out for leaving the discussion in the middle. He came even more mad and STILL DIDN'T REPLY. Irre is also scum.
I can, yes. why?Sephibro wrote:
tanzklaue can you read
Sephibro wrote:
we have to decide who we want to lynch, then we can elect anyone who's not the lynchee
there is the chance of the lyncher doing what he wants. especially with you and farto hating each others guts.Sephibro wrote:
Sephibro wrote:
we have to decide who we want to lynch, then we can elect anyone who's not the lynchee
and getting lynched d2Tanzklaue wrote:
there is the chance of the lyncher doing what he wants.
as CB said, what if the lyncher is obv town, but still didn't lynch the guy we wanted?Sephibro wrote:
and getting lynched d2Tanzklaue wrote:
there is the chance of the lyncher doing what he wants.
Irre, could you explain the bolded part? What exactly are you referring to?Irreversible wrote:
Said the one who wants to massclaim all the time, and flips scum.
Perhaps you should start playing like Town and not Anti-town all the time?Irreversible wrote:
Well, it kinda sucks that it always happens the same.
I say something random, I'm scum. Surprise: I'm not.
Sephibro and fartownik fighting because of massclaim, the usual stuff.
Then CalignoBot says something like "If you voted yourself, I'm not going to vote you". And? What do you wanna reach with that comment?
I don't know, but I pretty much loose any motiviation as soon as fartownik has his 5 minutes again, which pretty much goes over the whole game.
No.Raging Bull wrote:
Good suggestion.
farto, do you think pieguy is town after this post?