Is it hard to implement the raw input api? Would basically kill two birds with one stone as you could then apply sensitivity more accurately and it would fix the mouse rate input lag issue.peppy wrote:
I feel as though I'm going to have to install a native copy of win8.1 in order to figure this one out. VM just doesn't cut it since I cannot replicate the exact behaviour you are seeing.
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Why, Microsoft? So close and yet..
I would just use this all the time but I hate having to constantly switch between mouse profiles.
I can't seem to find a DPI setting that feels the same either. No matter what I do it feels off and it sucks having to change settings after months of using these ones T-T
Again, I can manage like this but it was much simpler before aha
Now, the higher the sensitivity, the erraticness increases
It doesn't fix the sensitivity != 1.0x issue though
1. Download KB2908279 Update (KB2908279.url)
2. Install it and reboot
3. Run osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg
4. Run ShimFlushCache.bat (as Administrator)
5. Reboot
6. Win
osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg contains:
ShimFlushCache.bat contains:
EDIT: It worked after I installed the hotfix, thanks for help I can finally play Osu! at uni.
Hooray
Updated the fix link and added clearer instructions
I wonder if the update gets offered if you happen to have one of those games it mentions installed, but I doubt it.
Pretty sure the registry entry is still needed, but I'll check a bit later.
Microsoft released a rollup that included the mouse fix, so you may already have the update. Verify that you have the rollup update first, then add the registry entry to flag osu! to receive the fix.
can i have some help
Put it 1x and change the windows mouse speed if you have problems
Nevermind
I think The problem is windows 8..
well ever since i got windows 8 my Mouse doesn't work in Osu.
But know since I've upgraded to 8.1 its extreme...
well ever since i got windows 8 my Mouse doesn't work in Osu.
But know since I've upgraded to 8.1 its extreme...
PSA: use sensitivity at 1x until this is fixed
I have the same issue when im in the menus etc. but when i am actually playing a beatmap my cursor works fine
another way in order to fix this issue is setting sensivity to 1.0x and handle sensivity in mouse options on windows disabling precision
peppy wrote:
PSA: use sensitivity at 1x until this is fixed
What if peppy developed a mouse driver that multiplies mouse input for the whole system?
It would also be nice to have 2 decimal digit multipliers. What do you say peppy?
Oops i got out of track, we are talking about Win8. Does anyone have a gaming mouse with adjustable DPI? Does this happen no matter what DPI are you using?
It would also be nice to have 2 decimal digit multipliers. What do you say peppy?
Oops i got out of track, we are talking about Win8. Does anyone have a gaming mouse with adjustable DPI? Does this happen no matter what DPI are you using?
This happens no matter what DPI you're using, but I have no idea why you'd even bother using a setting other than 1.0x if you can change your DPI.ArmandoR wrote:
Oops i got out of track, we are talking about Win8. Does anyone have a gaming mouse with adjustable DPI? Does this happen no matter what DPI are you using?
I supposed that problem will be correct in the next update hmm? :3 
The problem isn't osu!, peppy can't fix it. You have to wait for a hotfix from Microsoft.Neizers wrote:
I supposed that problem will be correct in the next update hmm? :3
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.
Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").
Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.
Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").
I can confirm, this fix doesn't help much.Espionage724 wrote:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.
Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").
Why, Microsoft? So close and yet..
The windows 8.1 mouse fix doesn't effect osu :c.
But, i've found that if you right click, Properties, Compatibility and "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". It will work for the most part, I do feel a few derps sometimes (could be just me), but it works quite well and is better than nothing.
http://i.imgur.com/xRXG574.png
But, i've found that if you right click, Properties, Compatibility and "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". It will work for the most part, I do feel a few derps sometimes (could be just me), but it works quite well and is better than nothing.
http://i.imgur.com/xRXG574.png
That update only seems to fix stuttering and/or freezing cursors. I'd assume the fix for jumpy/unresponsive cursor is something separate..
Quick correction on this; it actually does seem to help. I didn't take note of that ShimFlushCache instruction (either it wasn't there before, or I really did miss it; in any case, take note to do step 8). That plus a reboot, and osu! with sensitivity above/below 1.0x works fine, for me anyway.Espionage724 wrote:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.
Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").
This didn't help the jumpy/erratic cursor movement I had with above/below 1.0x sensitivity.RawrinWabbit wrote:
The windows 8.1 mouse fix doesn't effect osu :c.
But, i've found that if you right click, Properties, Compatibility and "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". It will work for the most part, I do feel a few derps sometimes (could be just me), but it works quite well and is better than nothing.
http://i.imgur.com/xRXG574.png
Hmm, my problem was a jumpy cursor above/below 1.0x sensitivity.YayMii wrote:
That update only seems to fix stuttering and/or freezing cursors. I'd assume the fix for jumpy/unresponsive cursor is something separate..
Hi, well i was lurking (Alot) this forum since I have the same exact problem, just tried what Espionage724 said about the update, and it works very well, I still notice some derps here and there (Maybe it's just me :/) but definitely playable now.
Btw: Thanks!
Btw: Thanks!
Uhh, the mouse fix actually works, you just need to do a restart after adding osu! to the list(?).
I just got windows 8.1 yesterday and tried some of these solutions but none of them have worked.
I use a Razer Naga which has a customisable DPI so I just have to play on 1x (normally 2.5x) for now and try to adjust my DPI accordingly until a proper fix is found.
I have just now made a separate mouse profile for osu! since the mouse speed I use for the game is way too high for normal computer use. I hate having to swap between mouse profiles every time I want to play osu! though
I use a Razer Naga which has a customisable DPI so I just have to play on 1x (normally 2.5x) for now and try to adjust my DPI accordingly until a proper fix is found.
I have just now made a separate mouse profile for osu! since the mouse speed I use for the game is way too high for normal computer use. I hate having to swap between mouse profiles every time I want to play osu! though
Using DPI is a lot better O.o If you can use DPI and leave osu! at 1,0x.
Marcin wrote:
Using DPI is a lot better O.o If you can use DPI and leave osu! at 1,0x.
I would just use this all the time but I hate having to constantly switch between mouse profiles.
I can't seem to find a DPI setting that feels the same either. No matter what I do it feels off and it sucks having to change settings after months of using these ones T-T
Again, I can manage like this but it was much simpler before aha
Ignore this, I just tested the mouse fix again and it worked fine. Odd though, I restarted and then ran osu again and it failed. This time around it's working fine with a few derps here and there.RawrinWabbit wrote:
The windows 8.1 mouse fix doesn't effect osu :c.
But, i've found that if you right click, Properties, Compatibility and "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". It will work for the most part, I do feel a few derps sometimes (could be just me), but it works quite well and is better than nothing.
http://i.imgur.com/xRXG574.png
Now, the higher the sensitivity, the erraticness increases
anyone tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
I install that update. Not solvedpeppy wrote:
anyone tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
Yes, this fixes the 200hz cap/input lag issuepeppy wrote:
anyone tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
It doesn't fix the sensitivity != 1.0x issue though
that's a good start.
Well, apparently we can fix osu! by manually extending the update part. The question is should i attempt to manually change it as the instructions say or should i wait until they have a fix fix? Also, does manually adding osu! solve the mouse sensitivity problem?
That's what I did, the update does nothing otherwiseBlitzBattalion wrote:
Well, apparently we can fix osu! by manually extending the update part. The question is should i attempt to manually change it as the instructions say or should i wait until they have a fix fix? Also, does manually adding osu! solve the mouse sensitivity problem?
Added osu!.exe manually, works like a charm now.Espionage724 wrote:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.
Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").
That fix completely solved the issue for me. I can select sensitivities well above 1.0x without getting jumpy cursors like I was before I applied the update. I applied the registry fix, did the ShimFlushCache step, then rebooted and that fixed the problem. Mouse also seems slightly more responsive as well.
I notice that osu! seems to be taking longer to load with the fix, but that's a really minor issue compared to jumpy mouse.
I notice that osu! seems to be taking longer to load with the fix, but that's a really minor issue compared to jumpy mouse.
This doesn't seem to be the case for me. I applied the fix and extended the update to osu and the problem is still there for me when I raise the mouse sensitivity in osu's settings. I made sure the path to the file is correct and the value data is correct too. So, this fix didn't work for me and it appears it didn't fix the sensitivity issue for other users here as well. I guess I'll stick to 1.0x for now.esibun wrote:
That fix completely solved the issue for me. I can select sensitivities well above 1.0x without getting jumpy cursors like I was before I applied the update. I applied the registry fix, did the ShimFlushCache step, then rebooted and that fixed the problem. Mouse also seems slightly more responsive as well.
I notice that osu! seems to be taking longer to load with the fix, but that's a really minor issue compared to jumpy mouse.
News:
http://techreport.com/news/25599/window ... x-incoming
Official Microsoft Response:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... 528c42e400
It hasn't been pushed but is available now for download.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
http://techreport.com/news/25599/window ... x-incoming
Official Microsoft Response:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... 528c42e400
It hasn't been pushed but is available now for download.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
Updated (11/8)
We want to thank our gaming community for the detailed feedback many of you have provided on these issues. We have released some fixes and workarounds that will allow you to get back to your gaming.
The “mouse lag” issue is actually several different issues that could vary based on the game, input methods used, etc.
The three following issues are addressed by a fix we have provided in KB 2908279:
Mouse jitters (jumps forward and back) as you move it through a game
– This occurs in some games because Windows 8.1 introduced changes to mouse input processing for low latency interaction scenarios and this causes some games to respond differently to mouse input than in previous releases of Windows.
Mouse movement is not to scale even after acceleration is turned off
– If you have turned off acceleration to make the distance on the screen match the distance you move the mouse, that may not work correctly anymore.
Measured mouse Polling Rate has a lower reporting frequency than expected
– If you have a gaming mouse that has a high frequency, when you test it, you may find it is reporting a lower frequency than you expect. Note: if you previously encountered issues with measuring the polling rate you will need to follow the instructions in KB 2908279 to ensure that, not only the patch is installed, but also the app used to measure the polling rate has an appropriate registry entry to enable the fix for that specific executable.
Can someone make a .reg for this?
It seems that I can safely update to win8.1 now..
owo
Let's see what will happen.
owo
Let's see what will happen.
http://puu.sh/5hc1N.zippeppy wrote:
Can someone make a .reg for this?
1. Download KB2908279 Update (KB2908279.url)
2. Install it and reboot
3. Run osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg
4. Run ShimFlushCache.bat (as Administrator)
5. Reboot
6. Win
osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg contains:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"
ShimFlushCache.bat contains:
Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache
Thanks much. I will look at automating this process in the next release.
I did all the steps and it's still not fixed for me.Espionage724 wrote:
http://puu.sh/5g9P1.zippeppy wrote:
Can someone make a .reg for this?
- Run osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg to import the registry entry
- Run ShimFlushCache.bat
- Reboot
osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg contains:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"
ShimFlushCache.bat contains:Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache
Are you on Windows 8.1 (with GA updates), and have you installed the hotfix from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279?Gabb1995 wrote:
I did all the steps and it's still not fixed for me.
I am on Windows 8.1, do I need to install some Windows update manually? If yes then from where? Also no I havent done the hotfix I thought it was in the fix you sent let me try it with the hotfix first. Thanks for help.Espionage724 wrote:
Are you on Windows 8.1 (with GA updates), and have you installed the hotfix from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279?
EDIT: It worked after I installed the hotfix, thanks for help I can finally play Osu! at uni.
Thanks for the .reg mate. Everything is working perfectly nowEspionage724 wrote:
http://puu.sh/5g9P1.zippeppy wrote:
Can someone make a .reg for this?
- Run osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg to import the registry entry
- Run ShimFlushCache.bat
- Reboot
osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg contains:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"
ShimFlushCache.bat contains:Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache
HoorayAh; if you ran Windows Update, you probably have the GA update; at some point before launch though you had to manually download the update.Gabb1995 wrote:
I am on Windows 8.1, do I need to install some Windows update manually? If yes then from where? Also no I havent done the hotfix I thought it was in the fix you sent let me try it with the hotfix first. Thanks for help.Espionage724 wrote:
Are you on Windows 8.1 (with GA updates), and have you installed the hotfix from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279?
EDIT: It worked after I installed the hotfix, thanks for help I can finally play Osu! at uni.
Updated the fix link and added clearer instructions
Has this update been released on windows update yet?
I am having the same problem. Mouse movements are not to scale which is making it almost impossible for me to do spinners. So do we just need to wait for another update or...?
Just did a clean install of 8.1, didn't get the update automatically.peppy wrote:
Has this update been released on windows update yet?
I wonder if the update gets offered if you happen to have one of those games it mentions installed, but I doubt it.
EmmaFantasie
"this update may cause adverse effects on the performance and battery life of the computer.", apparently this update won't be offered automatically.Espionage724 wrote:
Just did a clean install of 8.1, didn't get the update automatically.peppy wrote:
Has this update been released on windows update yet?
I wonder if the update gets offered if you happen to have one of those games it mentions installed, but I doubt it.
So I guess microsoft are just saying "fuck you" to gamers in general then? Forcing everyone to encounter problems and find this hotfix on their own?
LOL
Is there still no solution on this? T_T
What if I have problems with my mouse stability and sensitivity on a non-Windows 8 OS? Because I'm not really sure if it's just the mouse's laser len thing or the program itself, because it used to work perfectly fine with osu.
You should post your issue in a new thread to keep this one cleanLokorfi wrote:
What if I have problems with my mouse stability and sensitivity on a non-Windows 8 OS? Because I'm not really sure if it's just the mouse's laser len thing or the program itself, because it used to work perfectly fine with osu.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
I can confirm this update solves the problem completely, but you need to follow the steps given in the page (instead of just installing the update).
I can confirm this update solves the problem completely, but you need to follow the steps given in the page (instead of just installing the update).
It would be nice to convert the fix to a wiki page, so it is easier to link to people having issues.
I don't think that the path below would work in 32-bit.
So I uploaded a copy with this for the 32-bit (64-bit is also included, separated from 32-bit).
Windows 8.1 cursor stuttering solution.zip
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"
So I uploaded a copy with this for the 32-bit (64-bit is also included, separated from 32-bit).
"C:\\Program Files\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"
Windows 8.1 cursor stuttering solution.zip
It did not work after following the steps in the solution.
But then, i tried to put it in compatibility mode for Windows XP (Service Pack 3) and it worked perfect.
(I have Windows 8.1 32-Bits)
But then, i tried to put it in compatibility mode for Windows XP (Service Pack 3) and it worked perfect.
(I have Windows 8.1 32-Bits)
@Espionage724: The file path may differ depending on where you put your osu! folder at. So the registry tweak may not work on some people if they put osu! elsewhere than Program Files folder.
It seems it's now included in Windows Update as part of a rollup: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2903939peppy wrote:
Has this update been released on windows update yet?
Pretty sure the registry entry is still needed, but I'll check a bit later.
Same problem, but I have vista.
The movement also seems more sluggish during a song than it is elsewhere.
The movement also seems more sluggish during a song than it is elsewhere.
Well, I'm glad that it's playable at 1.0 sensitivity.
Had to change my desktop pointer speed to make it work well with 1.0. Hope this gets fixed soon though, cuz my mouse is zoomin around now. xD
Had to change my desktop pointer speed to make it work well with 1.0. Hope this gets fixed soon though, cuz my mouse is zoomin around now. xD
still... (yup) disappointed...
playing for further sensitivity (3.1 or more) will sucks for hard difficulty and up...
playing for further sensitivity (3.1 or more) will sucks for hard difficulty and up...
For me, it says update is not applicable to your computer. What do i do?
p/2743163xhsl940616 wrote:
For me, it says update is not applicable to your computer. What do i do?
Microsoft released a rollup that included the mouse fix, so you may already have the update. Verify that you have the rollup update first, then add the registry entry to flag osu! to receive the fix.
I have done just about everything on the Wiki page with all the downloads and everything correct about 3 times and I still have a very glitch mouse if I go above anything like 2.0x at best. Even at 2.0x it glitches a whole lot. Any additional suggestions?
After I tried all the previous solutions, this one worked for me.Cjmmz wrote:
It did not work after following the steps in the solution.
But then, i tried to put it in compatibility mode for Windows XP (Service Pack 3) and it worked perfect.
(I have Windows 8.1 32-Bits)
If you happen to have this issue on windows 8, it is mostly likely something with your settings. Fix explained here fixes mouse issue which occurs when using sensitivity higher than 1,0x
Windows 8 doesn't have this issue, only Windows 8.1. If you're having an issue like this on 8, then there's something else causing the problem.
The fix reg fix worked perfectly! Thanks 
running on 8.1, i still have the same problem and tried the steps a couple of times.
-comp already got the update
-created the .reg no fixes
-comp already got the update
-created the .reg no fixes
Thank you Espionnage724, you've made me save a few money.... when I first noticed this problem I just thought it was coming from my mouse and was considering buying a new one x) Your steps completly solved the problem (though it looks like I actually already had the fix, through an automatic update maybe?). For those whose problem may not be fixed, I personally had to change the directory (http://puu.sh/6OKpS.png) so maybe you should check it too.
its the same for me too i did ever thing but still n working and have 8-1626kelvin wrote:
running on 8.1, i still have the same problem and tried the steps a couple of times.
-comp already got the update
-created the .reg no fixes
can i have some help
So I updated to 8.1 today, and when I tried installing the windows patch, it said it wasn't applicable to my system. I followed the steps and now my cursor issues with mouse movement speed are resolved, but for whatever reason all my mouse movements in osu feel really off now. I've double checked to make sure mouse acceleration is turned off, but sometimes I'll be able to do big jumps and the next play my mouse will go like 3/4s of the way across the screen with what feels like the same hand motion.
I've had this issue before and I have no idea what I did to fix it. For a while all my jumps felt good and I knew exactly how far to move my mouse to get it where I wanted but now everything just feels... off.
Is this related to the windows 8.1 update? Or is it something completely different?
I've had this issue before and I have no idea what I did to fix it. For a while all my jumps felt good and I knew exactly how far to move my mouse to get it where I wanted but now everything just feels... off.
Is this related to the windows 8.1 update? Or is it something completely different?
Test build has a potential fix for this. It also allows tablet users to change sensitivity. Please test and let me know how it feels.
I think I have the patch applied to my win 8.1 already so im not sure if i would still get mouse jitter, but currently in test build i can do 4.0x just fine with no jitter.
However going below 1.0x I cant move my cursor around the whole screen, its most notable at 0.5x where my mouse is locked to a small sub section of the osu window (usually the top right or bottom right, i cant move it to the left half of my screen). I am running it fullscreen windowed and have two monitors if thats important.
However going below 1.0x I cant move my cursor around the whole screen, its most notable at 0.5x where my mouse is locked to a small sub section of the osu window (usually the top right or bottom right, i cant move it to the left half of my screen). I am running it fullscreen windowed and have two monitors if thats important.
Check out this thread or, if the issue is different, create a new thread.NaThaNeL wrote:
since the new Update my Tablet is buggy but why??
I install new last update Osu
and for me bug with mouse not solved
Win 8.1
Damn
:c
I want play with my friends
and for me bug with mouse not solved
Win 8.1
Damn
:c
I want play with my friends
Nevermind
Try #2. Please report back with success stories.
Marking resolved.
Hi!
I have Win 8.1 and when i pull mouse sensitivity inside osu over/under 1.0X, it tells me, that since I have Win 8.1+, it enables the Raw input, but my mouse freezes - even though i can click, but ONLY click.
Do I have to use osu!Beta to have this solved?
Already tried the mentioned solutions. Every single one.
I have Win 8.1 and when i pull mouse sensitivity inside osu over/under 1.0X, it tells me, that since I have Win 8.1+, it enables the Raw input, but my mouse freezes - even though i can click, but ONLY click.
Do I have to use osu!Beta to have this solved?
Already tried the mentioned solutions. Every single one.
OK I had this issue as well and i fixed it. Go into your tablet settings and change it from pen mode to mouse mode.