knot4ever wrote:

The problem is with mouse rate checker, with mousemovmentrecord and DirectInput Mouse Rate(dimr.exe) they show 1000hz.

Darkimmortal wrote:

knot4ever wrote:

The problem is with mouse rate checker, with mousemovmentrecord and DirectInput Mouse Rate(dimr.exe) they show 1000hz.

Because they use raw input from the mouse (ie WM_INPUT), bypassing Microsoft's latest changes

osu uses WM_MOUSEMOVE and/or the other non-raw mouse events, which are now capped at 200hz. This is what mouserate.exe measures


Hopefully peppy can implement raw input, even just as a wrapper around the existing mouse movement code with appropriate scaling.

peppy wrote:

Please test this on the test build.

peppy wrote:

I'm still trying to understand what happened here. Has behaviour at non-1.0 changed in test build? Could you make a video?

peppy wrote:

I feel as though I'm going to have to install a native copy of win8.1 in order to figure this one out. VM just doesn't cut it since I cannot replicate the exact behaviour you are seeing.

peppy wrote:

PSA: use sensitivity at 1x until this is fixed

ArmandoR wrote:

Oops i got out of track, we are talking about Win8. Does anyone have a gaming mouse with adjustable DPI? Does this happen no matter what DPI are you using?

Neizers wrote:

I supposed that problem will be correct in the next update hmm? :3

Espionage724 wrote:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.

Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").

Espionage724 wrote:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.

Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").

RawrinWabbit wrote:

The windows 8.1 mouse fix doesn't effect osu :c.
But, i've found that if you right click, Properties, Compatibility and "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". It will work for the most part, I do feel a few derps sometimes (could be just me), but it works quite well and is better than nothing.

http://i.imgur.com/xRXG574.png

YayMii wrote:

That update only seems to fix stuttering and/or freezing cursors. I'd assume the fix for jumpy/unresponsive cursor is something separate..

Marcin wrote:

Using DPI is a lot better O.o If you can use DPI and leave osu! at 1,0x.

RawrinWabbit wrote:

The windows 8.1 mouse fix doesn't effect osu :c.
But, i've found that if you right click, Properties, Compatibility and "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". It will work for the most part, I do feel a few derps sometimes (could be just me), but it works quite well and is better than nothing.

http://i.imgur.com/xRXG574.png

peppy wrote:

anyone tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

peppy wrote:

anyone tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

BlitzBattalion wrote:

Well, apparently we can fix osu! by manually extending the update part. The question is should i attempt to manually change it as the instructions say or should i wait until they have a fix fix? Also, does manually adding osu! solve the mouse sensitivity problem?

Espionage724 wrote:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.

Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").

esibun wrote:

That fix completely solved the issue for me. I can select sensitivities well above 1.0x without getting jumpy cursors like I was before I applied the update. I applied the registry fix, did the ShimFlushCache step, then rebooted and that fixed the problem. Mouse also seems slightly more responsive as well.

I notice that osu! seems to be taking longer to load with the fix, but that's a really minor issue compared to jumpy mouse.

Updated (11/8)

We want to thank our gaming community for the detailed feedback many of you have provided on these issues. We have released some fixes and workarounds that will allow you to get back to your gaming.

The “mouse lag” issue is actually several different issues that could vary based on the game, input methods used, etc.

The three following issues are addressed by a fix we have provided in KB 2908279:

Mouse jitters (jumps forward and back) as you move it through a game
– This occurs in some games because Windows 8.1 introduced changes to mouse input processing for low latency interaction scenarios and this causes some games to respond differently to mouse input than in previous releases of Windows.

Mouse movement is not to scale even after acceleration is turned off
– If you have turned off acceleration to make the distance on the screen match the distance you move the mouse, that may not work correctly anymore.

Measured mouse Polling Rate has a lower reporting frequency than expected
– If you have a gaming mouse that has a high frequency, when you test it, you may find it is reporting a lower frequency than you expect. Note: if you previously encountered issues with measuring the polling rate you will need to follow the instructions in KB 2908279 to ensure that, not only the patch is installed, but also the app used to measure the polling rate has an appropriate registry entry to enable the fix for that specific executable.

peppy wrote:

Can someone make a .reg for this?

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache

Espionage724 wrote:

peppy wrote:

Can someone make a .reg for this?

http://puu.sh/5g9P1.zip

- Run osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg to import the registry entry
- Run ShimFlushCache.bat
- Reboot

osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg contains:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

ShimFlushCache.bat contains:

Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache

Gabb1995 wrote:

I did all the steps and it's still not fixed for me.

Espionage724 wrote:

Are you on Windows 8.1 (with GA updates), and have you installed the hotfix from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279?

Espionage724 wrote:

peppy wrote:

Can someone make a .reg for this?

http://puu.sh/5g9P1.zip

- Run osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg to import the registry entry
- Run ShimFlushCache.bat
- Reboot

osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg contains:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

ShimFlushCache.bat contains:

Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache

Gabb1995 wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

Are you on Windows 8.1 (with GA updates), and have you installed the hotfix from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279?

I am on Windows 8.1, do I need to install some Windows update manually? If yes then from where? Also no I havent done the hotfix I thought it was in the fix you sent let me try it with the hotfix first. Thanks for help.

EDIT: It worked after I installed the hotfix, thanks for help I can finally play Osu! at uni.

peppy wrote:

Has this update been released on windows update yet?

Espionage724 wrote:

peppy wrote:

Has this update been released on windows update yet?

Just did a clean install of 8.1, didn't get the update automatically.

I wonder if the update gets offered if you happen to have one of those games it mentions installed, but I doubt it.

Marcin wrote:

Have you tried this solution... p/2681094 ?

Lokorfi wrote:

What if I have problems with my mouse stability and sensitivity on a non-Windows 8 OS? Because I'm not really sure if it's just the mouse's laser len thing or the program itself, because it used to work perfectly fine with osu.

"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

"C:\\Program Files\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

peppy wrote:

Has this update been released on windows update yet?

xhsl940616 wrote:

For me, it says update is not applicable to your computer. What do i do?

Cjmmz wrote:

It did not work after following the steps in the solution.
But then, i tried to put it in compatibility mode for Windows XP (Service Pack 3) and it worked perfect.
(I have Windows 8.1 32-Bits)

626kelvin wrote:

running on 8.1, i still have the same problem and tried the steps a couple of times.
-comp already got the update
-created the .reg no fixes

NaThaNeL wrote:

since the new Update my Tablet is buggy but why??