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[resolved] Windows 8.1 Mouse Cursor Issues [confirmed] [READ FOR FIX]

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TooFab4U

RawrinWabbit wrote:

The windows 8.1 mouse fix doesn't effect osu :c.
But, i've found that if you right click, Properties, Compatibility and "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". It will work for the most part, I do feel a few derps sometimes (could be just me), but it works quite well and is better than nothing.

http://i.imgur.com/xRXG574.png
Ignore this, I just tested the mouse fix again and it worked fine. Odd though, I restarted and then ran osu again and it failed. This time around it's working fine with a few derps here and there.

Now, the higher the sensitivity, the erraticness increases
peppy
Cjmmz

peppy wrote:

anyone tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
I install that update. Not solved :(
Darkimmortal

peppy wrote:

anyone tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
Yes, this fixes the 200hz cap/input lag issue

It doesn't fix the sensitivity != 1.0x issue though
peppy
that's a good start.
BlitzBattalion
Well, apparently we can fix osu! by manually extending the update part. The question is should i attempt to manually change it as the instructions say or should i wait until they have a fix fix? Also, does manually adding osu! solve the mouse sensitivity problem?
Darkimmortal

BlitzBattalion wrote:

Well, apparently we can fix osu! by manually extending the update part. The question is should i attempt to manually change it as the instructions say or should i wait until they have a fix fix? Also, does manually adding osu! solve the mouse sensitivity problem?
That's what I did, the update does nothing otherwise
Alucard108

Espionage724 wrote:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.

Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").
Added osu!.exe manually, works like a charm now.
esibun
That fix completely solved the issue for me. I can select sensitivities well above 1.0x without getting jumpy cursors like I was before I applied the update. I applied the registry fix, did the ShimFlushCache step, then rebooted and that fixed the problem. Mouse also seems slightly more responsive as well.

I notice that osu! seems to be taking longer to load with the fix, but that's a really minor issue compared to jumpy mouse.
Daymaul

esibun wrote:

That fix completely solved the issue for me. I can select sensitivities well above 1.0x without getting jumpy cursors like I was before I applied the update. I applied the registry fix, did the ShimFlushCache step, then rebooted and that fixed the problem. Mouse also seems slightly more responsive as well.

I notice that osu! seems to be taking longer to load with the fix, but that's a really minor issue compared to jumpy mouse.
This doesn't seem to be the case for me. I applied the fix and extended the update to osu and the problem is still there for me when I raise the mouse sensitivity in osu's settings. I made sure the path to the file is correct and the value data is correct too. So, this fix didn't work for me and it appears it didn't fix the sensitivity issue for other users here as well. I guess I'll stick to 1.0x for now.
Nerve_old
News:
http://techreport.com/news/25599/window ... x-incoming

Official Microsoft Response:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... 528c42e400

It hasn't been pushed but is available now for download.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279


Updated (11/8)

We want to thank our gaming community for the detailed feedback many of you have provided on these issues. We have released some fixes and workarounds that will allow you to get back to your gaming.

The “mouse lag” issue is actually several different issues that could vary based on the game, input methods used, etc.

The three following issues are addressed by a fix we have provided in KB 2908279:

Mouse jitters (jumps forward and back) as you move it through a game
– This occurs in some games because Windows 8.1 introduced changes to mouse input processing for low latency interaction scenarios and this causes some games to respond differently to mouse input than in previous releases of Windows.

Mouse movement is not to scale even after acceleration is turned off
– If you have turned off acceleration to make the distance on the screen match the distance you move the mouse, that may not work correctly anymore.

Measured mouse Polling Rate has a lower reporting frequency than expected
– If you have a gaming mouse that has a high frequency, when you test it, you may find it is reporting a lower frequency than you expect. Note: if you previously encountered issues with measuring the polling rate you will need to follow the instructions in KB 2908279 to ensure that, not only the patch is installed, but also the app used to measure the polling rate has an appropriate registry entry to enable the fix for that specific executable.
peppy
Can someone make a .reg for this?
Anzo
It seems that I can safely update to win8.1 now..
owo

Let's see what will happen.
Espionage724

peppy wrote:

Can someone make a .reg for this?
http://puu.sh/5hc1N.zip

1. Download KB2908279 Update (KB2908279.url)
2. Install it and reboot
3. Run osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg
4. Run ShimFlushCache.bat (as Administrator)
5. Reboot
6. Win

osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg contains:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

ShimFlushCache.bat contains:
Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache
peppy
Thanks much. I will look at automating this process in the next release.
Gabb1995

Espionage724 wrote:

peppy wrote:

Can someone make a .reg for this?
http://puu.sh/5g9P1.zip

- Run osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg to import the registry entry
- Run ShimFlushCache.bat
- Reboot

osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg contains:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

ShimFlushCache.bat contains:
Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache
I did all the steps and it's still not fixed for me.
Espionage724

Gabb1995 wrote:

I did all the steps and it's still not fixed for me.
Are you on Windows 8.1 (with GA updates), and have you installed the hotfix from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279?
Gabb1995

Espionage724 wrote:

Are you on Windows 8.1 (with GA updates), and have you installed the hotfix from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279?
I am on Windows 8.1, do I need to install some Windows update manually? If yes then from where? Also no I havent done the hotfix I thought it was in the fix you sent let me try it with the hotfix first. Thanks for help.

EDIT: It worked after I installed the hotfix, thanks for help I can finally play Osu! at uni.
Xcross

Espionage724 wrote:

peppy wrote:

Can someone make a .reg for this?
http://puu.sh/5g9P1.zip

- Run osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg to import the registry entry
- Run ShimFlushCache.bat
- Reboot

osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg contains:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

ShimFlushCache.bat contains:
Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache
Thanks for the .reg mate. Everything is working perfectly now :) Hooray
Espionage724

Gabb1995 wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

Are you on Windows 8.1 (with GA updates), and have you installed the hotfix from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279?
I am on Windows 8.1, do I need to install some Windows update manually? If yes then from where? Also no I havent done the hotfix I thought it was in the fix you sent let me try it with the hotfix first. Thanks for help.

EDIT: It worked after I installed the hotfix, thanks for help I can finally play Osu! at uni.
Ah; if you ran Windows Update, you probably have the GA update; at some point before launch though you had to manually download the update.

Updated the fix link and added clearer instructions :)
kisfiu87
Windows 8.1 Mouse Lag Fix :)

peppy
Has this update been released on windows update yet?
Lawhrah
I am having the same problem. Mouse movements are not to scale which is making it almost impossible for me to do spinners. So do we just need to wait for another update or...?
Marcin
Have you tried this solution... p/2681094 ?
Espionage724

peppy wrote:

Has this update been released on windows update yet?
Just did a clean install of 8.1, didn't get the update automatically.

I wonder if the update gets offered if you happen to have one of those games it mentions installed, but I doubt it.
EmmaFantasie

Espionage724 wrote:

peppy wrote:

Has this update been released on windows update yet?
Just did a clean install of 8.1, didn't get the update automatically.

I wonder if the update gets offered if you happen to have one of those games it mentions installed, but I doubt it.
"this update may cause adverse effects on the performance and battery life of the computer.", apparently this update won't be offered automatically.
peppy
So I guess microsoft are just saying "fuck you" to gamers in general then? Forcing everyone to encounter problems and find this hotfix on their own?
claudio rolna
LOL
Choconyaanyaa
Is there still no solution on this? T_T
Marcin

Marcin wrote:

Have you tried this solution... p/2681094 ?
Loko
What if I have problems with my mouse stability and sensitivity on a non-Windows 8 OS? Because I'm not really sure if it's just the mouse's laser len thing or the program itself, because it used to work perfectly fine with osu.
XPJ38

Lokorfi wrote:

What if I have problems with my mouse stability and sensitivity on a non-Windows 8 OS? Because I'm not really sure if it's just the mouse's laser len thing or the program itself, because it used to work perfectly fine with osu.
You should post your issue in a new thread to keep this one clean :P
Harusame_Inaba
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

I can confirm this update solves the problem completely, but you need to follow the steps given in the page (instead of just installing the update).
peppy
It would be nice to convert the fix to a wiki page, so it is easier to link to people having issues.
Nathanael
peppy
Awesome, thanks!

Might be good to add this too: p/2681094
Nathanael
I don't think that the path below would work in 32-bit.
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

So I uploaded a copy with this for the 32-bit (64-bit is also included, separated from 32-bit).
"C:\\Program Files\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

Windows 8.1 cursor stuttering solution.zip
Cjmmz
It did not work after following the steps in the solution.
But then, i tried to put it in compatibility mode for Windows XP (Service Pack 3) and it worked perfect. :)
(I have Windows 8.1 32-Bits)
Winshley
@Espionage724: The file path may differ depending on where you put your osu! folder at. So the registry tweak may not work on some people if they put osu! elsewhere than Program Files folder.
Espionage724

peppy wrote:

Has this update been released on windows update yet?
It seems it's now included in Windows Update as part of a rollup: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2903939

Pretty sure the registry entry is still needed, but I'll check a bit later.
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