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iTaSou
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I'm upgraded 8.0 > 8.1 today

In my case, It's fixed. whether lower or higher than 1.0x. Not fully resolve.

Easily visible in song selection and main menu. But normal behavior in options menu.

Edit: I play with 0.8x and it's playable. (still have little effect.) Even 1.6x make worse to control mouse but when start game it can play. :shock:
Darkimmortal
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In a Reddit thread on this subject, someone made the point that any driverless mouse (onboard memory etc.) is less badly affected.

I can play the game with as much accuracy as before with my Xai, however I'm getting a fair bit of input lag - it feels the cursor position only updates 60 times a second. I normally play at 300-500 fps on 120hz with a polling rate of 960hz, so the difference is very noticeable. The performance is identical to 60fps limit on 8.0.

The reddit thread also mentioned that raw mouse input games are unaffected, hopefully this is feasible to implement.
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Espionage724
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There's a rather large thread on MDL about the issue: http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thread ... g-in-Games

In any case, I usually always play at 1.0x, and haven't noticed any issue. I tried messing with the in-game sensitivity though, and the cursor got erratic. Wasn't too bad at values below 1.0x (but still noticeable), but it got real bad at values above 1.0x.

This is with a Microsoft Comfort Mouse 6000 with 2.2.173 Mouse and Keyboard Center drivers (latest) on 8.1 RTM (with GA updates).
peppy
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That thread is not the same issue, for what it's worth. This is also no longer low priority, as win8.1 has been released.
Espionage724
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Ah, I see.

Probably doesn't need any more confirmation, but here's a video also:
Yanaginagi
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Yanaginagi
I downgraded back to 8 because of this.
knot4ever
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You dont need to downgrade your windows.

Search on google for rinput 1.3, its inject dll on the exec to force use directinput work fine here.


exec rinput.exe then type osu!.exe, open osu! and play. =)
Darkimmortal
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knot4ever wrote:

You dont need to downgrade your windows.

Search on google for rinput 1.3, its inject dll on the exec to force use directinput work fine here.


exec rinput.exe then type osu!.exe, open osu! and play. =)
Wow, this is extremely impressive stuff.

Seems to be quite tricky to get hold of, so I've mirrored it here: http://dl.weeaboo.com/rinput131.rar

Will try it later on :)
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Darkimmortal
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Also earlier in the thread I mentioned a 60fps vsync effect - this was actually my mistake - my nvidia optimus settings had reset during the 8.1 upgrade so it was running on the integrated graphics

The only issue is the 200hz limit on mouse rate, and until Microsoft provide a fix for this, DirectInput is the only solution for osu. The solution proposed on some sites of compatibility mode and disabled DPI system doesn't work and is likely placebo as it appears to apply a vsync-like effect.
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knot4ever
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i had problems with my video drivers too, i just reinstall.

but my its amd driver.
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Espionage724
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knot4ever wrote:

You dont need to downgrade your windows.

Search on google for rinput 1.3, its inject dll on the exec to force use directinput work fine here.


exec rinput.exe then type osu!.exe, open osu! and play. =)
I could be wrong, but I vaguely recall trying to use this, and had no clicks register. Not sure on any specifics other than that though... (not on 8.1 to test it atm either)

But if it works for others, then I guess there was something wrong on my part.
knot4ever
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Games like battlefield have directinput, the dev from osu, could put option for directinput, in options.
knot4ever
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Another way.

If Control Panel, Appearance and Personalization, Display shows a 'Smaller...Larger' slider.

Try clicking the 'Let me choose one scaling level for all my displays' checkbox.

Apply Markc mousefix.

work fine with 1 senstivity.

i think osu senstivity change windows sensitivity, then the markc mousefix stop work.
Darkimmortal
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knot4ever wrote:

Another way.

If Control Panel, Appearance and Personalization, Display shows a 'Smaller...Larger' slider.

Try clicking the 'Let me choose one scaling level for all my displays' checkbox.

Apply Markc mousefix.

work fine with 1 senstivity.

i think osu senstivity change windows sensitivity, then the markc mousefix stop work.
It fixes the 1:1 movement certainly

But it doesn't do anything about the 200hz polling limit, which makes mouse play at a high skill level significantly harder
Fyxe
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Does it go crazy when you change it in the option menu? because mine is fine with the options n single player games. It just spazz out when I press F8/F9. Set the frame limiter to Unlimited and It'll be fine for singleplayer.
knot4ever
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my g400 work fine with 1000hz
Darkimmortal
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knot4ever wrote:

my g400 work fine with 1000hz
Have you checked this with mouserate.exe?
knot4ever
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knot4ever
yeah =/ mouserate its 200hz O.o
knot4ever
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The problem is with mouse rate checker, with mousemovmentrecord and DirectInput Mouse Rate(dimr.exe) they show 1000hz.
picupiee
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i have test on several FPS limit and this is the result (tested on win 8.1 build 9600 RTM)

SPOILER








Darkimmortal
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knot4ever wrote:

The problem is with mouse rate checker, with mousemovmentrecord and DirectInput Mouse Rate(dimr.exe) they show 1000hz.
Because they use raw input from the mouse (ie WM_INPUT), bypassing Microsoft's latest changes

osu uses WM_MOUSEMOVE and/or the other non-raw mouse events, which are now capped at 200hz. This is what mouserate.exe measures


Hopefully peppy can implement raw input, even just as a wrapper around the existing mouse movement code with appropriate scaling.
knot4ever
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Darkimmortal wrote:

knot4ever wrote:

The problem is with mouse rate checker, with mousemovmentrecord and DirectInput Mouse Rate(dimr.exe) they show 1000hz.
Because they use raw input from the mouse (ie WM_INPUT), bypassing Microsoft's latest changes

osu uses WM_MOUSEMOVE and/or the other non-raw mouse events, which are now capped at 200hz. This is what mouserate.exe measures


Hopefully peppy can implement raw input, even just as a wrapper around the existing mouse movement code with appropriate scaling.

=/ Microsoft hates gamers, i hope SteamOS can be great.
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Please test this on the test build.
Darkimmortal
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peppy wrote:

Please test this on the test build.
Mouse seems a little more responsive (may be placebo), but still not as good as 8.0

Sensitivity != 1.0 is still very derpy
picupiee
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Test result with osu! test build (still on the same os)

SPOILER


]




look the different ? :)

[Edited] i've just turn on the compbality to windows 8, disable display scaling on high DPI setting and run administrator when i want to test it again
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peppy
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I'm still trying to understand what happened here. Has behaviour at non-1.0 changed in test build? Could you make a video?
Darkimmortal
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peppy wrote:

I'm still trying to understand what happened here. Has behaviour at non-1.0 changed in test build? Could you make a video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41vRYCNB ... e=youtu.be

At 4.0x i'm doing the exact same small spinning motion
peppy
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I feel as though I'm going to have to install a native copy of win8.1 in order to figure this one out. VM just doesn't cut it since I cannot replicate the exact behaviour you are seeing.
Darkimmortal
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peppy wrote:

I feel as though I'm going to have to install a native copy of win8.1 in order to figure this one out. VM just doesn't cut it since I cannot replicate the exact behaviour you are seeing.
Is it hard to implement the raw input api? Would basically kill two birds with one stone as you could then apply sensitivity more accurately and it would fix the mouse rate input lag issue.
Nya Nya Neko
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I think The problem is windows 8..
well ever since i got windows 8 my Mouse doesn't work in Osu.
But know since I've upgraded to 8.1 its extreme...
peppy
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PSA: use sensitivity at 1x until this is fixed
leoroids
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I have the same issue when im in the menus etc. but when i am actually playing a beatmap my cursor works fine
peppy
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http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/11/03/2 ... ises-a-fix promising?
Ferdroid8080
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another way in order to fix this issue is setting sensivity to 1.0x and handle sensivity in mouse options on windows disabling precision
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peppy wrote:

PSA: use sensitivity at 1x until this is fixed
karma_komodo
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What if peppy developed a mouse driver that multiplies mouse input for the whole system?
It would also be nice to have 2 decimal digit multipliers. What do you say peppy?

Oops i got out of track, we are talking about Win8. Does anyone have a gaming mouse with adjustable DPI? Does this happen no matter what DPI are you using?
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ArmandoR wrote:

Oops i got out of track, we are talking about Win8. Does anyone have a gaming mouse with adjustable DPI? Does this happen no matter what DPI are you using?
This happens no matter what DPI you're using, but I have no idea why you'd even bother using a setting other than 1.0x if you can change your DPI.
Neizers
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I supposed that problem will be correct in the next update hmm? :3 :?
TakuMii
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Neizers wrote:

I supposed that problem will be correct in the next update hmm? :3 :?
The problem isn't osu!, peppy can't fix it. You have to wait for a hotfix from Microsoft.
Neizers
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Okay.... :(
Espionage724
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.

Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").
billy96
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Espionage724 wrote:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.

Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").
I can confirm, this fix doesn't help much.

Why, Microsoft? So close and yet..
TooFab4U
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The windows 8.1 mouse fix doesn't effect osu :c.
But, i've found that if you right click, Properties, Compatibility and "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". It will work for the most part, I do feel a few derps sometimes (could be just me), but it works quite well and is better than nothing.

http://i.imgur.com/xRXG574.png
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TakuMii
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That update only seems to fix stuttering and/or freezing cursors. I'd assume the fix for jumpy/unresponsive cursor is something separate..
Espionage724
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Espionage724 wrote:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.

Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").
Quick correction on this; it actually does seem to help. I didn't take note of that ShimFlushCache instruction (either it wasn't there before, or I really did miss it; in any case, take note to do step 8). That plus a reboot, and osu! with sensitivity above/below 1.0x works fine, for me anyway.

RawrinWabbit wrote:

The windows 8.1 mouse fix doesn't effect osu :c.
But, i've found that if you right click, Properties, Compatibility and "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". It will work for the most part, I do feel a few derps sometimes (could be just me), but it works quite well and is better than nothing.

http://i.imgur.com/xRXG574.png
This didn't help the jumpy/erratic cursor movement I had with above/below 1.0x sensitivity.

YayMii wrote:

That update only seems to fix stuttering and/or freezing cursors. I'd assume the fix for jumpy/unresponsive cursor is something separate..
Hmm, my problem was a jumpy cursor above/below 1.0x sensitivity.
Carlos Ruiz
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Hi, well i was lurking (Alot) this forum since I have the same exact problem, just tried what Espionage724 said about the update, and it works very well, I still notice some derps here and there (Maybe it's just me :/) but definitely playable now.


Btw: Thanks!
billy96
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Uhh, the mouse fix actually works, you just need to do a restart after adding osu! to the list(?).
Xcross
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I just got windows 8.1 yesterday and tried some of these solutions but none of them have worked.

I use a Razer Naga which has a customisable DPI so I just have to play on 1x (normally 2.5x) for now and try to adjust my DPI accordingly until a proper fix is found.

I have just now made a separate mouse profile for osu! since the mouse speed I use for the game is way too high for normal computer use. I hate having to swap between mouse profiles every time I want to play osu! though :(
Marcin
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Using DPI is a lot better O.o If you can use DPI and leave osu! at 1,0x.
Xcross
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Marcin wrote:

Using DPI is a lot better O.o If you can use DPI and leave osu! at 1,0x.

I would just use this all the time but I hate having to constantly switch between mouse profiles.

I can't seem to find a DPI setting that feels the same either. No matter what I do it feels off and it sucks having to change settings after months of using these ones T-T

Again, I can manage like this but it was much simpler before aha
TooFab4U
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RawrinWabbit wrote:

The windows 8.1 mouse fix doesn't effect osu :c.
But, i've found that if you right click, Properties, Compatibility and "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings". It will work for the most part, I do feel a few derps sometimes (could be just me), but it works quite well and is better than nothing.

http://i.imgur.com/xRXG574.png
Ignore this, I just tested the mouse fix again and it worked fine. Odd though, I restarted and then ran osu again and it failed. This time around it's working fine with a few derps here and there.

Now, the higher the sensitivity, the erraticness increases
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anyone tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
Cjmmz
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peppy wrote:

anyone tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
I install that update. Not solved :(
Darkimmortal
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peppy wrote:

anyone tried this? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279
Yes, this fixes the 200hz cap/input lag issue

It doesn't fix the sensitivity != 1.0x issue though
peppy
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that's a good start.
BlitzBattalion
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Well, apparently we can fix osu! by manually extending the update part. The question is should i attempt to manually change it as the instructions say or should i wait until they have a fix fix? Also, does manually adding osu! solve the mouse sensitivity problem?
Darkimmortal
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BlitzBattalion wrote:

Well, apparently we can fix osu! by manually extending the update part. The question is should i attempt to manually change it as the instructions say or should i wait until they have a fix fix? Also, does manually adding osu! solve the mouse sensitivity problem?
That's what I did, the update does nothing otherwise
Alucard108
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Espionage724 wrote:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

Not sure if it fixes the exact issue with osu! or not though.

Edit: Doesn't seem to help. If you want to test it, you have to flag osu!.exe to be affected by the update (instructions under "How to extend the update to other games").
Added osu!.exe manually, works like a charm now.
esibun
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That fix completely solved the issue for me. I can select sensitivities well above 1.0x without getting jumpy cursors like I was before I applied the update. I applied the registry fix, did the ShimFlushCache step, then rebooted and that fixed the problem. Mouse also seems slightly more responsive as well.

I notice that osu! seems to be taking longer to load with the fix, but that's a really minor issue compared to jumpy mouse.
Daymaul
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esibun wrote:

That fix completely solved the issue for me. I can select sensitivities well above 1.0x without getting jumpy cursors like I was before I applied the update. I applied the registry fix, did the ShimFlushCache step, then rebooted and that fixed the problem. Mouse also seems slightly more responsive as well.

I notice that osu! seems to be taking longer to load with the fix, but that's a really minor issue compared to jumpy mouse.
This doesn't seem to be the case for me. I applied the fix and extended the update to osu and the problem is still there for me when I raise the mouse sensitivity in osu's settings. I made sure the path to the file is correct and the value data is correct too. So, this fix didn't work for me and it appears it didn't fix the sensitivity issue for other users here as well. I guess I'll stick to 1.0x for now.
Nerve_old
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News:
http://techreport.com/news/25599/window ... x-incoming

Official Microsoft Response:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... 528c42e400

It hasn't been pushed but is available now for download.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279


Updated (11/8)

We want to thank our gaming community for the detailed feedback many of you have provided on these issues. We have released some fixes and workarounds that will allow you to get back to your gaming.

The “mouse lag” issue is actually several different issues that could vary based on the game, input methods used, etc.

The three following issues are addressed by a fix we have provided in KB 2908279:

Mouse jitters (jumps forward and back) as you move it through a game
– This occurs in some games because Windows 8.1 introduced changes to mouse input processing for low latency interaction scenarios and this causes some games to respond differently to mouse input than in previous releases of Windows.

Mouse movement is not to scale even after acceleration is turned off
– If you have turned off acceleration to make the distance on the screen match the distance you move the mouse, that may not work correctly anymore.

Measured mouse Polling Rate has a lower reporting frequency than expected
– If you have a gaming mouse that has a high frequency, when you test it, you may find it is reporting a lower frequency than you expect. Note: if you previously encountered issues with measuring the polling rate you will need to follow the instructions in KB 2908279 to ensure that, not only the patch is installed, but also the app used to measure the polling rate has an appropriate registry entry to enable the fix for that specific executable.
peppy
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Can someone make a .reg for this?
KoumeSh
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It seems that I can safely update to win8.1 now..
owo

Let's see what will happen.
Espionage724
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peppy wrote:

Can someone make a .reg for this?
http://puu.sh/5hc1N.zip

1. Download KB2908279 Update (KB2908279.url)
2. Install it and reboot
3. Run osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg
4. Run ShimFlushCache.bat (as Administrator)
5. Reboot
6. Win

osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg contains:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

ShimFlushCache.bat contains:
Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache
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peppy
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Thanks much. I will look at automating this process in the next release.
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Espionage724 wrote:

peppy wrote:

Can someone make a .reg for this?
http://puu.sh/5g9P1.zip

- Run osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg to import the registry entry
- Run ShimFlushCache.bat
- Reboot

osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg contains:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

ShimFlushCache.bat contains:
Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache
I did all the steps and it's still not fixed for me.
Espionage724
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Gabb1995 wrote:

I did all the steps and it's still not fixed for me.
Are you on Windows 8.1 (with GA updates), and have you installed the hotfix from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279?
Gabb1995
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Espionage724 wrote:

Are you on Windows 8.1 (with GA updates), and have you installed the hotfix from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279?
I am on Windows 8.1, do I need to install some Windows update manually? If yes then from where? Also no I havent done the hotfix I thought it was in the fix you sent let me try it with the hotfix first. Thanks for help.

EDIT: It worked after I installed the hotfix, thanks for help I can finally play Osu! at uni.
Xcross
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Espionage724 wrote:

peppy wrote:

Can someone make a .reg for this?
http://puu.sh/5g9P1.zip

- Run osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg to import the registry entry
- Run ShimFlushCache.bat
- Reboot

osu! 8.1 Mouse Fix.reg contains:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

ShimFlushCache.bat contains:
Rundll32 apphelp.dll,ShimFlushCache
Thanks for the .reg mate. Everything is working perfectly now :) Hooray
Espionage724
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Gabb1995 wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

Are you on Windows 8.1 (with GA updates), and have you installed the hotfix from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279?
I am on Windows 8.1, do I need to install some Windows update manually? If yes then from where? Also no I havent done the hotfix I thought it was in the fix you sent let me try it with the hotfix first. Thanks for help.

EDIT: It worked after I installed the hotfix, thanks for help I can finally play Osu! at uni.
Ah; if you ran Windows Update, you probably have the GA update; at some point before launch though you had to manually download the update.

Updated the fix link and added clearer instructions :)
kisfiu87
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Windows 8.1 Mouse Lag Fix :)

peppy
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Has this update been released on windows update yet?
Lawhrah
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I am having the same problem. Mouse movements are not to scale which is making it almost impossible for me to do spinners. So do we just need to wait for another update or...?
Marcin
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Have you tried this solution... p/2681094 ?
Espionage724
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peppy wrote:

Has this update been released on windows update yet?
Just did a clean install of 8.1, didn't get the update automatically.

I wonder if the update gets offered if you happen to have one of those games it mentions installed, but I doubt it.
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Espionage724 wrote:

peppy wrote:

Has this update been released on windows update yet?
Just did a clean install of 8.1, didn't get the update automatically.

I wonder if the update gets offered if you happen to have one of those games it mentions installed, but I doubt it.
"this update may cause adverse effects on the performance and battery life of the computer.", apparently this update won't be offered automatically.
peppy
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So I guess microsoft are just saying "fuck you" to gamers in general then? Forcing everyone to encounter problems and find this hotfix on their own?
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LOL
Choconyaanyaa
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Is there still no solution on this? T_T
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Marcin wrote:

Have you tried this solution... p/2681094 ?
Loko
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What if I have problems with my mouse stability and sensitivity on a non-Windows 8 OS? Because I'm not really sure if it's just the mouse's laser len thing or the program itself, because it used to work perfectly fine with osu.
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Lokorfi wrote:

What if I have problems with my mouse stability and sensitivity on a non-Windows 8 OS? Because I'm not really sure if it's just the mouse's laser len thing or the program itself, because it used to work perfectly fine with osu.
You should post your issue in a new thread to keep this one clean :P
Harusame_Inaba
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2908279

I can confirm this update solves the problem completely, but you need to follow the steps given in the page (instead of just installing the update).
peppy
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It would be nice to convert the fix to a wiki page, so it is easier to link to people having issues.
Nathanael
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Nathanael
Created: osu!wiki: Windows 8.1 cursor stuttering solution
peppy
19,322 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
Awesome, thanks!

Might be good to add this too: p/2681094
Nathanael
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Nathanael
I don't think that the path below would work in 32-bit.
"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

So I uploaded a copy with this for the 32-bit (64-bit is also included, separated from 32-bit).
"C:\\Program Files\\osu!\\osu!.exe"="NoDTToDITMouseBatch"

Windows 8.1 cursor stuttering solution.zip
Cjmmz
8 posts
Joined January 2012
Cjmmz
It did not work after following the steps in the solution.
But then, i tried to put it in compatibility mode for Windows XP (Service Pack 3) and it worked perfect. :)
(I have Windows 8.1 32-Bits)
Winshley
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Winshley
@Espionage724: The file path may differ depending on where you put your osu! folder at. So the registry tweak may not work on some people if they put osu! elsewhere than Program Files folder.
Espionage724
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Joined August 2011
Espionage724

peppy wrote:

Has this update been released on windows update yet?
It seems it's now included in Windows Update as part of a rollup: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2903939

Pretty sure the registry entry is still needed, but I'll check a bit later.
McBob49
56 posts
Joined October 2013
McBob49
Same problem, but I have vista.
The movement also seems more sluggish during a song than it is elsewhere.
Lunarhiro
93 posts
Joined March 2010
Lunarhiro
Well, I'm glad that it's playable at 1.0 sensitivity.

Had to change my desktop pointer speed to make it work well with 1.0. Hope this gets fixed soon though, cuz my mouse is zoomin around now. xD
sibotax36
18 posts
Joined April 2013
sibotax36
still... (yup) disappointed...
playing for further sensitivity (3.1 or more) will sucks for hard difficulty and up... :?: :?: :?: :o
xhsl940616
8 posts
Joined March 2013
xhsl940616
For me, it says update is not applicable to your computer. What do i do?
Espionage724
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Espionage724

xhsl940616 wrote:

For me, it says update is not applicable to your computer. What do i do?
p/2743163
Microsoft released a rollup that included the mouse fix, so you may already have the update. Verify that you have the rollup update first, then add the registry entry to flag osu! to receive the fix.
K I D D
6 posts
Joined August 2013
K I D D
I have done just about everything on the Wiki page with all the downloads and everything correct about 3 times and I still have a very glitch mouse if I go above anything like 2.0x at best. Even at 2.0x it glitches a whole lot. Any additional suggestions?
Orange Mushroom
22 posts
Joined November 2012
Orange Mushroom

Cjmmz wrote:

It did not work after following the steps in the solution.
But then, i tried to put it in compatibility mode for Windows XP (Service Pack 3) and it worked perfect. :)
(I have Windows 8.1 32-Bits)
After I tried all the previous solutions, this one worked for me.
effenelle
10 posts
Joined September 2011
effenelle
Can this fix be used for Windows 8?
Marcin
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Marcin
If you happen to have this issue on windows 8, it is mostly likely something with your settings. Fix explained here fixes mouse issue which occurs when using sensitivity higher than 1,0x
TakuMii
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TakuMii
Windows 8 doesn't have this issue, only Windows 8.1. If you're having an issue like this on 8, then there's something else causing the problem.
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