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Wow thanks for letting us practice the maps from the mappack in advance.
Not.
Not.
inb4 No official mappackfartownik wrote:
Wow thanks for letting us practice the maps from the mappack in advance.
Not.
It is still a training.
I was being sarcastic for the maps not being released yet.
I was referring to the officials picking maps on the day. Anyways, I hope you kept your promise Loctav that you picked the right maps 
This means the maps were meant to be released on Friday already, since the first matches are on the next Friday. It's Sunday and they're still not up. I would not pick this up if not the fact that the staff had a real lot of time before the tournament even started to pick the proper maps.Rules wrote:
The maps for each round will be announced by the mapset selectors one week in advance.
soon™
Nah man, you should be glad you can participate and stuff. If you don't like it don't participate, amiright? Just shush and the almighty organization will continue doing whatever they want.fartownik wrote:
This means the maps were meant to be released on Friday already, since the first matches are on the next Friday. It's Sunday and they're still not up. I would not pick this up if not the fact that the staff had a real lot of time before the tournament even started to pick the proper maps.Rules wrote:
The maps for each round will be announced by the mapset selectors one week in advance.
I find it funny how the word 'almighty' only comes with sarcasm and the movie Bruce the Almighty.Moonpower wrote:
Nah man, you should be glad you can participate and stuff. If you don't like it don't participate, amiright? Just shush and the almighty organization will continue doing whatever they want.
If they couldn't hit their deadlines, it does say a lot tbh. From what you said Moonpower about the participants being "humbled" to compete, I feel sorry for Bahrain.
Things on time.
Topic Starter
What part of "Sunday" didn't you understand? You guys are weird.
isn't it sunday already? also some matches are on friday so imo they should've been released on friday so we can compain about them earlier
Dear to whom it may concern,
Who will be the streamer?
Regards,
Dexter
Who will be the streamer?
Regards,
Dexter
That's on the wiki.
Streamers: Nyquill, kingking9, Love, ShinseinaTenshi
ffs not you againLaVolpe024 wrote:
That's on the wiki.Streamers: Nyquill, kingking9, Love, ShinseinaTenshi
Yeah it's all on the wiki as Loctav mentioned in one of these threads.
Sorry I don't recognise you.Metro wrote:
ffs not you again
Uhh. There're less than five days until the first match, it's the middle of Sunday UTC, and there's still no mappool.
Mappool where?
Mappool where?
Though I can understand that loctav hasn't much free time as to post stuff, I'd be disappointed if it turned out that mappools hadn't been prepared earlier (I mean, like, days ago, and I mean all mappools). If mappools are ready (I hope they all are), posting them should be like.... one click away!
I'm pretty sure they are prepared.
he sure did have free time to answer those rants from other people thoughAmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Though I can understand that loctav hasn't much free time as to post stuff, I'd be disappointed if it turned out that mappools hadn't been prepared earlier (I mean, like, days ago, and I mean all mappools). If mappools are ready (I hope they all are), posting them should be like.... one click away!
and yeah it's sunday. where are the maps? O_o
Why would you post the mappool when you can call people weird for thinking that the mappool would be released on friday, as per wiki, but then making it sunday and trying to look better by making it 1 day earlier but not doing that in the end? Never doubt the German efficiency!
Topic Starter
The thing is, if people haven't even gotten the time to prepare and be ready to post a mappool with 10ish days of preparation. Then just think of the teams that are participating (especially the once that are playing on Friday), not only do they have to look daily for the mappool news, they also have to make time to practice them. I'll just assume that most participants are around 17-20 years old, which would mean they are studying/working through Monday - Friday, so some of them might have a tight training schedule.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Though I can understand that loctav hasn't much free time as to post stuff
I just hope we'll see some maps soon so the teams have time to practice them.
Anyway, good luck and have fun to all the participating players/staff of the OWC #4 and may the best team win!
Cheers~
Thank you~Loctav wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu_World_Cup_2013#Group_Stage
It's 2pm UTC, y so impatient
We're probably impatient because most of us expected the mappool to be out on Friday. Since that wasn't the case, we'd atleast want it as soon as possible to squeeze in any possible practice time we still have left during the weekend.Loctav wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Osu_World_Cup_2013#Group_Stage
It's 2pm UTC, y so impatient
Well, thanks for the mappool anyway.
And I just realised having freemods during tiebreaker is a silly idea.
\:D/
because it's 10pm on UTC +8
because it's 10pm on UTC +8
Finally someone said it, thank youSlizzer wrote:
The thing is, if people haven't even gotten the time to prepare and be ready to post a mappool with 10ish days of preparation. Then just think of the teams that are participating (especially the once that are playing on Friday), not only do they have to look daily for the mappool news, they also have to make time to practice them. I'll just assume that most participants are around 17-20 years old, which would mean they are studying/working through Monday - Friday, so some of them might have a tight training schedule.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Though I can understand that loctav hasn't much free time as to post stuff
time to push essays aside #yolo
requesting a pack for the current map pool
Request accepted, here is your pack http://www.mediafire.com/?jn0c8p6wqfrtfhb
EDIT: added on wiki at the top of group stage section.
EDIT: added on wiki at the top of group stage section.
The tiebreaker should be freemod imo. Luv Letter nomod is a pain in the ass, have fun with random misses all the way with AR9.CXu wrote:
And I just realised having freemods during tiebreaker is a silly idea.
people should be able to read ar9 if they want to be in owc. its not all about faster faster faster.
also doesnt more misses make things more exciting? i remember people complaining about so called "accuracy matches"
also doesnt more misses make things more exciting? i remember people complaining about so called "accuracy matches"
It's a tiebreaker. I'd rather have everyone compete on equal basis really.
beatmaps were a bit on the hard side for r1 last year, I remember.
This year takes the cake.
This year takes the cake.
A little review from a newbie like me xD
No mod map pool:
That number 1 nomod map '-' , somehow, some part make me surprised (I'm talking about the map, not the background or otherelse)
Love number 4 and 6 pick :3
Speechless to number 5 pick (Middleisland - Roze)
Freemod:
Shotgun Seronita can be easy, but it is risky to play with HR. Yes, I love that pick
Tiebreaker:
Much more difficult than last year (Actually all of this year map is more difficult)
Will be updated, haven't reviewed all of the maps.
(Only need to download 4 maps from this map pool xD)
No mod map pool:
That number 1 nomod map '-' , somehow, some part make me surprised (I'm talking about the map, not the background or otherelse)
Love number 4 and 6 pick :3
Speechless to number 5 pick (Middleisland - Roze)
Freemod:
Shotgun Seronita can be easy, but it is risky to play with HR. Yes, I love that pick
Tiebreaker:
Much more difficult than last year (Actually all of this year map is more difficult)
Will be updated, haven't reviewed all of the maps.
(Only need to download 4 maps from this map pool xD)
i really like this mappool
http://puu.sh/57CFp.db Here are the collections sorted by mods. Make sure you backup your own collection.db file so you dont lose your own collections
NoMod
MiddleIsland - Roze (Lan wings) [Lan]
WHY. Seriously, I don't want to start hating or anything, but I want a SERIOUS explanation why THIS map was chosen.
It's a very experimental map and I don't say that it is bad, but it is GAMEPLAYWISE pretty much a free SS except for the one part in the middle. It's OD6, come on. So it comes down to that one part which like 10 seconds and the other 3 minutes don't even matter.
In games, a level, a stage should have a constant difficulty level so the player can play it until he passes it and can then move on to the next stage. If there's one part in that stage which is SIGNIFICANTLY harder than the rest it makes that whole rest of the stage redundant and in the end boring for the player who only struggles with that one obstacle.
Again, the map isn't bad, it's experimental, the timing is reaaaally impressive (shoutout to Charles) and it is well done, BUT FOR A TOURNAMENT this seems like a really bad pick to me.
MiddleIsland - Roze (Lan wings) [Lan]
WHY. Seriously, I don't want to start hating or anything, but I want a SERIOUS explanation why THIS map was chosen.
It's a very experimental map and I don't say that it is bad, but it is GAMEPLAYWISE pretty much a free SS except for the one part in the middle. It's OD6, come on. So it comes down to that one part which like 10 seconds and the other 3 minutes don't even matter.
In games, a level, a stage should have a constant difficulty level so the player can play it until he passes it and can then move on to the next stage. If there's one part in that stage which is SIGNIFICANTLY harder than the rest it makes that whole rest of the stage redundant and in the end boring for the player who only struggles with that one obstacle.
Again, the map isn't bad, it's experimental, the timing is reaaaally impressive (shoutout to Charles) and it is well done, BUT FOR A TOURNAMENT this seems like a really bad pick to me.
I like the mappool , especially the HR en DT picks. Plus it has my favourite maps Lagomorphic and Luv Letter.
, especially the HR en DT picks. Plus it has my favourite maps Lagomorphic and Luv Letter.Couldn't agree more.Zarerion wrote:
NoMod
MiddleIsland - Roze (Lan wings) [Lan]
WHY. Seriously, I don't want to start hating or anything, but I want a SERIOUS explanation why THIS map was chosen.
It's a very experimental map and I don't say that it is bad, but it is GAMEPLAYWISE pretty much a free SS except for the one part in the middle. It's OD6, come on. So it comes down to that one part which like 10 seconds and the other 3 minutes don't even matter.
In games, a level, a stage should have a constant difficulty level so the player can play it until he passes it and can then move on to the next stage. If there's one part in that stage which is SIGNIFICANTLY harder than the rest it makes that whole rest of the stage redundant and in the end boring for the player who only struggles with that one obstacle.
Again, the map isn't bad, it's experimental, the timing is reaaaally impressive (shoutout to Charles) and it is well done, BUT FOR A TOURNAMENT this seems like a really bad pick to me.
Rest is fine tho.
holy crap this is incredibly difficult. nice picks though
how is this even going to work if multiplayer isn't even working, we are trying to play and random crashes happen nonstop then there is huge lag I see other people playing while I am stuck at "waiting for players" and then I start playing 20sec late like wat is dis. Also passing lead takes like 30sec to register same with ready and start button its just stupid and unplayable chat also lags.
Ah, sorry. The Freemod picks are questionable, especially the Miku one. The risk vs reward ratio is too high. I think you misunderstood the meaning of the FreeMod here. The map should be as hard with HardRock as the maps from HardRock pool are, same goes for Hidden. The Miku map is definitely harder than all the HardRock maps from the pool, it's just too risky to miss for anyone to pick HR on it. You picked some maps in NoMod & Hidden that could work very well in the FreeMod bracket - Artcore Jinja, Max Love or manima ni. All these maps have a fair amount of HD and HR scores in the scoreboard and would be a rewarding and safe pick during the match.
Please re-think the FreeMod next time.
Please re-think the FreeMod next time.
thanks <3Marcin wrote:
Request accepted, here is your pack http://www.mediafire.com/?jn0c8p6wqfrtfhb
EDIT: added on wiki at the top of group stage section.
the maps are challenging, but they're really nice
fuck roze.
I am really disappointed that Scarlet Rose and Big Black weren't chosen! I am crying as I write this...
you make me feel ashamedArtaxerx wrote:
I am really disappointed that Scarlet Rose and Big Black weren't chosen! I am crying as I write this...
And I was just to say "pls don't pick best maps at the very beginning", I was late.
2. I can't see the experimental thingy in this map apart from uncommon tune.
3. it's epic
WHY. Seriously, I don't want to start hating or anything, but I want a SERIOUS explanation why THIS map was chosen.1. It's epic
2. I can't see the experimental thingy in this map apart from uncommon tune.
3. it's epic
did you even read my post?
Don't choose maps for being popular please
Don't choose maps for being popular please
Uhm... what?! Did you seriously not get the sarcasm in my post?!LoliFlan wrote:
you make me feel ashamedArtaxerx wrote:
I am really disappointed that Scarlet Rose and Big Black weren't chosen! I am crying as I write this...
Since when 50k plays on an insane diff is "popular"? It's quite the contrary. Because of the BPM changes and the slow parts it's unpopular to most but popular to players that can appreciate it.Zarerion wrote:
did you even read my post?
Don't choose maps for being popular please
I'm glad to know most of you guys liked the picks, hope you all can feel the real challenge this year 
The mappool could've been better.
Why in gods name would someone include roze into this pool, that is beyond me
Why in gods name would someone include roze into this pool, that is beyond me
It always can be better, but that's better than nothing, or better than maps that everyone in a match are able to fc which would make it really boring :pShinseinaTenshi wrote:
The mappool could've been better
Also, if you guys don't like Roze just don't pick it, that map is there because is pretty challenging and we wanted to see how you guys will do there, besides the map is pretty decent and fits really good with the other picks in the round.
So maps that go batsh.. halfway through? OkayDarksonic wrote:
It always can be better, but that's better than nothing, or better than maps that everyone in a match are able to fc which would make it really boring :pShinseinaTenshi wrote:
The mappool could've been better
Roze is not a good pick since it's a gimmick map, the 230bpm part with AR9 makes players highly vulnerable for misses. I won't be surprised if even top players miss there at random (if it's even picked, which I doubt in the first place).Darksonic wrote:
It always can be better, but that's better than nothing, or better than maps that everyone in a match are able to fc which would make it really boring :pShinseinaTenshi wrote:
The mappool could've been better
Also, if you guys don't like Roze just don't pick it, that map is there because is pretty challenging and we wanted to see how you guys will do there, besides the map is pretty decent and fits really good with the other picks in the round.
I hope you will at least think off my notices about the FreeMod bracket. 'better than nothing' is not a very convincing argument of the maps' quality.
Implying I don't appreciate it, lol. I said, the map is pretty awesome, it's just very shitty for a tournament, and I still wonder why anyone would think it would be a good idea to choose for this mappool.Metro wrote:
Since when 50k plays on an insane diff is "popular"? It's quite the contrary. Because of the BPM changes and the slow parts it's unpopular to most but popular to players that can appreciate it.Zarerion wrote:
did you even read my post?
Don't choose maps for being popular please
I wasn't implying anything and I wasn't saying if it fits or not for tournament. You were calling it a popular map and I called you out on it. That's all.Zarerion wrote:
Implying I don't appreciate it, lol. I said, the map is pretty awesome, it's just very shitty for a tournament, and I still wonder why anyone would think it would be a good idea to choose for this mappool.
I've read every opinion and complain, and that line I said was not referring to the quality or to something like "Oh yeah these maps were the only ones I found that people could play, so enjoy it or don't even play them, that's how it is.".. just no. As I said before, we wanted to have more challenging and different stuff this time, one map different than the others won't hurt, and I even can bet that map won't be even picked and if it is, I would like to see how people does there, because even if the map is hard and people could miss easily there, we have to agree that it would be fun to watch.fartownik wrote:
Roze is not a good pick since it's a gimmick map, the 230bpm part with AR9 makes players highly vulnerable for misses. I won't be surprised if even top players miss there at random (if it's even picked, which I doubt in the first place).
I hope you will at least think off my notices about the FreeMod bracket. 'better than nothing' is not a very convincing argument of the maps' quality.
About the FreeMod bracket, you surely got a point, but these hard picks will be only for the first round, I mean, I'm thinking about a different mappool for the next round, difficulty and brackets related so you guys don't have to worry about this because the FreeMod ones won't be that hard each round. I have to say that at the end we didn't have too much time to pick, Wishy got abscent one week ago and I had to find/change (In case I find something better than other old pick) the last maps by myself. We were making it since the first day and then we were changing lots of maps on it until some days ago.
So yeah, opinions and complains are always welcome, I want to know what everyone thinks about this, it maybe could help us to think a bit better at the next rounds' picks.
Freemod is broken because of the fact that usually to add a mod is not viable, mods are only useful if the map is a free FC so adding mods could actually help you win. If using at least one mod was mandatory it would be quite interesting but truth is you can just play nomod so there is no real point to using mods.
If we pick some free FC map then, at always, it will be picked just because it's easy and for some reason people tend to think that if they do good on a map (even if it's because it's damn easy) they have high chances of winning.
If we pick some free FC map then, at always, it will be picked just because it's easy and for some reason people tend to think that if they do good on a map (even if it's because it's damn easy) they have high chances of winning.
The problem about Roze is not that it's hard. The problem is that it's in fact very easy except for one single jump part, which is just annoying. I can tell you what happens if someone really picks it.Darksonic wrote:
I've read every opinion and complain, and that line I said was not referring to the quality or to something like "Oh yeah these maps were the only ones I found that people could play, so enjoy it or don't even play them, that's how it is.".. just no. As I said before, we wanted to have more challenging and different stuff this time, one map different than the others won't hurt, and I even can bet that map won't be even picked and if it is, I would like to see how people does there, because even if the map is hard and people could miss easily there, we have to agree that it would be fun to watch.fartownik wrote:
Roze is not a good pick since it's a gimmick map, the 230bpm part with AR9 makes players highly vulnerable for misses. I won't be surprised if even top players miss there at random (if it's even picked, which I doubt in the first place).
I hope you will at least think off my notices about the FreeMod bracket. 'better than nothing' is not a very convincing argument of the maps' quality.
We will have 8 super nervous players playing, probably SSing the whole map, everyone is waiting for that one part and 6 out of 8 players (assuming it's not Korea vs Japan) will miss there, nope, I don't think that will be fun for the players or viewers.
why do you even choose maps when you don't expect it to be picked.
Not ranting, just giving feedback so future mappools won't have such problems.
@Metro: yeah sorry. It's less popular and more well known among the active community thanks to the timing. That's what I originally meant.
i like roze, i would love to see it get picked just to see who can get through that one part
This is the main idea of it, it's better than a map where all the players are able to fc without efforts, imo.silmarilen wrote:
i like roze, i would love to see it get picked just to see who can get through that one part
The problem about Roze is not that it's hard. The problem is that it's in fact very easy except for one single jump part, which is just annoying. I can tell you what happens if someone really picks it.I think the map is equally hard starting from jump part to the ending slowdown. So it's like half of the whole combo.
I'm disappointed that this map is in nomod bracket. It would fit either freemod OR a hr pick in ko stage.
As to other maps, I still find some being easier than the rest, significantly. But maybe it's just player's preference. Overally I think the pool is quite ok.
Jump Around and this TOTAL OBJECTION are pretty boring, but it's again taste.
Higurashi Moratorium it's ok i guess, Jump Arround it's pretty boring but well.
And the rest of the maps are fine, i agree with farto on the free mod bracket tho.
And the rest of the maps are fine, i agree with farto on the free mod bracket tho.
could've used more maps in the pool imo
looks nice though
looks nice though
Every score on Roze in the tournament ever ;(
Otherwise a nice map pool, but this makes it even harder for less capable teams to get past the group stage. All maps are CS4, BPM dispersion is way too small imho and a lot of maps with either high jumps or streams. I guess I do appreciate a few stylistic differences between the maps, but there's just a huge lack of mechanical variety. This is the first group stage, so with the amount of maps there are (seems like it doubles up each year :p) I thought there would be a showing of other ends of the spectrum, but I guess you can't have it all. Also I'm a little disappointed since I've only played 6 maps out of the current pool and I seriously lack time to practice, but I won't go down without a fight! Let's just hope I don't have to work during the weekend.
Got the rant out of the way. Good luck to all contestants nevertheless!
ditto: I request a no-vid map pack
Got the rant out of the way. Good luck to all contestants nevertheless!
ditto: I request a no-vid map pack
mappool is jumpy as hell... tho i guess is ok for a OWC... group stage? It's more a filter than a mappool imo but w/e.
just realised tie breaker is easier/same difficulty than the no mods. lol
fartownik wrote:
Every score on Roze in the tournament ever ;(
Now seriously, Roze will be a pain in the ass, and I like it
Please stop posting.buny wrote:
just realised tie breaker is easier/same difficulty than the no mods. lol
are the videos of the streams going to be uploaded on twitch also? Asking this because the stream of the drawings wasn't recorded when i wanted to watch them, quite disappointed about that.
also, is there going to be a no-vid map pack uploaded?
also, is there going to be a no-vid map pack uploaded?
Sarcasm on text, you're doing it right.Artaxerx wrote:
Uhm... what?! Did you seriously not get the sarcasm in my post?!
Well, it was mistake (or, twitch changed from automatic on, to off) because streamers hasn't enabled saving videos, now it should be saved automatically.buny wrote:
are the videos of the streams going to be uploaded on twitch also? Asking this because the stream of the drawings wasn't recorded when i wanted to watch them, quite disappointed about that.
also, is there going to be a no-vid map pack uploaded?
Ilye_old
It was still obivious sarcasm, you just suckLoliFlan wrote:
Sarcasm on text, you're doing it right.Artaxerx wrote:
Uhm... what?! Did you seriously not get the sarcasm in my post?!
I think it might be possible, I'll ask further.[-Aoi-] wrote:
Is it possible for one of the streamers to record and upload unaired games without commentary? cause for example personally I find UK vs Japan game quite interesting, also some countries like Chile have only one game streamed.
Soarezi
I'll stream it for you with commentary bby.[-Aoi-] wrote:
Is it possible for one of the streamers to record and upload unaired games without commentary? cause for example personally I find UK vs Japan game quite interesting, also some countries like Chile have only one game streamed.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
Actually that isn't the one we wanted to pick, the other one was harder and fits much better for the first tiebreaker, sadly we had to change it.buny wrote:
just realised tie breaker is easier/same difficulty than the no mods. lol
British accent win winjesus1412 wrote:
I'll stream it for you with commentary bby.[-Aoi-] wrote:
Is it possible for one of the streamers to record and upload unaired games without commentary? cause for example personally I find UK vs Japan game quite interesting, also some countries like Chile have only one game streamed.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
buny is right, tiebreaker is same level as nomods. probably easier than some depending on the players' strengths.
not that that's a bad thing, depending on what you want to make out of it.
not that that's a bad thing, depending on what you want to make out of it.
Blame Loctav.Aqo wrote:
buny is right, tiebreaker is same level as nomods. probably easier than some depending on the players' strengths.
*runs*
Yeah I know how the map picking process "works".Darksonic wrote:
Blame Loctav.
Anyway nice picks so far. 12 Green lights, 6 Yellow lights, 5 Red lights.
Something to keep in mind guys: Don't pick all the interesting maps from the start or else you'll have nothing left for later stages. Plan ahead on this.
23(?)x5(?) = sooooooo maps
Topic Starter
What. Wishy put it there. I picked like two maps from the entire pool and you two agreed. Don't push the blame to me :C also the previous pick was harder but a bunch of crap mapping wise.Darksonic wrote:
Blame Loctav.Aqo wrote:
buny is right, tiebreaker is same level as nomods. probably easier than some depending on the players' strengths.
*runs*
@Aqo last year, fartownik was the one bitching around. Not me : DDD
yo ar9 is easyPortalLife wrote:
I am glad Im not playing this year. dem AR9 hard maps
>Implying current mappool doesn't have a bunch of crap mapping wise *cough* yuugure *cough*Loctav wrote:
but a bunch of crap mapping wise.
Overlap hnghhh.CXu wrote:
>Implying current mappool doesn't have a bunch of crap mapping wise *cough* yuugure *cough*Loctav wrote:
but a bunch of crap mapping wise.
I think it would be better to have something that could fit better in the pool whatever the map style is, rather than a good map but eaaaasier one, the current tiebreaker sadly doesn't have enough challenge ;_; but that's the best we could find for it, it isn't too easy either but the other one was more enjoyable imo.Loctav wrote:
What. Wishy put it there. I picked like two maps from the entire pool and you two agreed. Don't push the blame to me :C also the previous pick was harder but a bunch of crap mapping wise.
But hey, is not like the current pool is filled with great maps though :p
inb4 the other one was Skystar
I'm actually surprised there's no Skystar map in the first pool, but I guess they're gonna wait until the later rounds