Shotgun Symphony is relatively hard, you just need to memorize it and that's it. It's also a shit map.
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you very well know that "being different" is not the reason it's an awful map. stop derailing this BDBlue Dragon wrote:
yeah, because everything different must suckAqo wrote:
shotgun symphony is really a shittyass map though and you know it
idk, the patterns look pretty crappy to me, everytime i play it i can't flow with the beat/rhythmBlue Dragon wrote:
2013 players like to say it's bad since it's not their common flowy AR10 map and is completely different from that, so they don't count itskiter43 wrote:
what about shotgun symphony?
also those start sliders
don't forget people also rate maps depending on how popular the mapper is
I find something ironic about BD bashing hard maps and pro players
hmmm...
hmmm...
Shotgun Symphony+ was mapped for difficulty, and that's really about it. It does a pretty good job at that by having weird patterns that are the polar opposite of flow, and it's harder to nomod FC than even the likes of Big Black or Pluto. Passing is pretty easy though just because of the hp6 and relatively low note density.
Ontopic: This map should be the final boss of osu!
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/120515
Its like Mad Machine with jumps like Jumpudding.
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/120515
Its like Mad Machine with jumps like Jumpudding.
Really fun mapPortalLife wrote:
Ontopic: This map should be the final boss of osu!
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/120515
Its like Mad Machine with jumps like Jumpudding.
And this is why I keep saying negative things about 2013 playersGoldenWolf wrote:
fun mapPortalLife wrote:
This map
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/120515
I don't quite get what you mean; what does that have to do with any of things you've said about 2013 players
It seems like the word "2013" is completely labeled as "negative" thing.
Both playing and mapping sides.
Both playing and mapping sides.
What I see from 2013 stereotypical players: Like playing only the most insane stuff. Calm maps are just boring and shouldn't be played. If the map has a very fast flow, 200BPM and AR10, insta-favourite. Likes only maps from 7odoa, Saten, nold and a few others.Frostmourne wrote:
It seems like the word "2013" is completely labeled as "negative" thing.
Both playing and mapping sides.
What I see from 2013 stereotypical mappers: They're here to fullfill the players' needs of incredibly hard maps, so they forget about quality or following the song, for the sake of making a very hard map that players will hopefully like.
I apologize for being offensive, btw. It's just that it irks me that people can find something they can't even play the "best maps".
Wrong thread for doing it, so yeah, sorry.
BD, from what I've seen in 2013 you're completely wrong. I won't elaborate though, sicne you won't listen to me anyway.
Truth Final WordBlue Dragon wrote:
What I see from 2013 stereotypical players: Like playing only the most insane stuff. Calm maps are just boring and shouldn't be played. If the map has a very fast flow, 200BPM and AR10, insta-favourite. Likes only maps from 7odoa, Saten, nold and a few others.Frostmourne wrote:
It seems like the word "2013" is completely labeled as "negative" thing.
Both playing and mapping sides.
What I see from 2013 stereotypical mappers: They're here to fullfill the players' needs of incredibly hard maps, so they forget about quality or following the song, for the sake of making a very hard map that players will hopefully like.
Just because many people like to play my crazy map,And those map get many favourite...
My easy map always be ignore (No one remember my easy map...)
Btw,I usually play "Hard" diff and I'm relaxed player.
My easy map always be ignore (No one remember my easy map...)
Btw,I usually play "Hard" diff and I'm relaxed player.
Step 1. You see a circle on the screen.PortalLife wrote:
Teach me how to aim please GW
Step 2. You move your cursor to the circle.
Step 3. While aiming to the said circle, you look at the next circle incoming.
Rinse and repeat.
I can't disagree at all since it's true. Whatever, let's stop being off-topic then ~.~Blue Dragon wrote:
What I see from 2013 stereotypical players: Like playing only the most insane stuff. Calm maps are just boring and shouldn't be played. If the map has a very fast flow, 200BPM and AR10, insta-favourite. Likes only maps from 7odoa, Saten, nold and a few others.Frostmourne wrote:
It seems like the word "2013" is completely labeled as "negative" thing.
Both playing and mapping sides.
What I see from 2013 stereotypical mappers: They're here to fullfill the players' needs of incredibly hard maps, so they forget about quality or following the song, for the sake of making a very hard map that players will hopefully like.
I apologize for being offensive, btw. It's just that it irks me that people can find something they can't even play the "best maps".
Wrong thread for doing it, so yeah, sorry.
This might come as a shock to you, BD, but some people see osu as a video game and not as a jukebox and actually play for gameplay and not for listening to random songs they don't even like.Blue Dragon wrote:
What I see from 2013 stereotypical players: Like playing only the most insane stuff. Calm maps are just boring and shouldn't be played.
It's incredibly insulting for many mappers that you staple "high difficulty" as "lack of quality" (but at the same time you call shotgun symphony a good map? what.) when mappers this days strive to make high difficulty maps of a high quality as much as possible to make them enjoyable for the players who want to play high difficulty maps.
wow, so you enjoy playing easy maps. that's nice and all, but some people like challenging themselves and they don't play this game to listen to music, they already have winamp/foobar for that. You're very arrogant to think that you're the only one who's allowed to decide what are people allowed to have fun with. I don't get WHY or HOW you got the idea that mappers fulfilling the players' desires is a bad thing (isn't it the mapper's goal to create a fun map that people would want to play?) but you have to accept that stuff that is fun for you might be completely boring for somebody else and vica versa.
Had someone else been saying those things I'd understand, but you of all people are being a huge hypocrite for saying nonsense like this.
I can understand that there are ppl who play for difficulty and ppl who play for fun (as u called "jukebox").
Ppl who playing only for difficulty are hypocrite aswell, some of them were suggesting me to avoid map calm songs because its boring for them, I was just laughting.
BD is right in most cases about 2013 players.
Ppl who playing only for difficulty are hypocrite aswell, some of them were suggesting me to avoid map calm songs because its boring for them, I was just laughting.
BD is right in most cases about 2013 players.
As somebody who actually enjoys difficult maps and keeps in contact with people who play them, let me point out one huge flaw in BD's assumptions: most people prefer easy maps over hard ones.
He probably doesn't realize it because he's just going around being angry all day that his calm maps aren't getting as many plays as he wants; but the truth is that difficult maps are much more of a niche thing that very few players are interested in playing and the vast majority of osu spends a lot more time playing calm easy maps that they feel comfortable on.
One group might be more vocal than the other but it's very wrong to assume that all 2013 players only play hard maps and ignore calm songs.
He probably doesn't realize it because he's just going around being angry all day that his calm maps aren't getting as many plays as he wants; but the truth is that difficult maps are much more of a niche thing that very few players are interested in playing and the vast majority of osu spends a lot more time playing calm easy maps that they feel comfortable on.
One group might be more vocal than the other but it's very wrong to assume that all 2013 players only play hard maps and ignore calm songs.
Aqo wrote:
it's very wrong to assume that all 2013 players only play hard maps and ignore calm songs.
mhmBlue Dragon wrote:
What I see from 2013 stereotypical players
It's inevitable that somebody who can actually plays hard maps would need very few tries to produce an FC or an otherwise satisfying play by their own standards on an easy map, while needing many tries to beat a truly hard map; so if you look at those people you might get the assumption they only play the hard maps all day because that's what you'll see them spending most of their time on - but in reality for every one hard map they play they also play 50 other easy maps.
I remember you said at one point that you're angry that people only remember maps you made like big black and airman while not remembering your easy ones, but guess what, somebody who FC'd an easy map in 10 minutes with DTHD isn't going to be left with a strong mark of it in his memory and he's not going to discuss it a lot later or keep retrying it after he already FC'd (or got the rank he wanted or whatever). It's not that he hated it, but you're not going to hear about it a lot.
If you're angry that people are not fav'ing calm songs and discussing them left and right then you're forgetting the most basic thing that osu is a video game and not a jukebox.
I remember you said at one point that you're angry that people only remember maps you made like big black and airman while not remembering your easy ones, but guess what, somebody who FC'd an easy map in 10 minutes with DTHD isn't going to be left with a strong mark of it in his memory and he's not going to discuss it a lot later or keep retrying it after he already FC'd (or got the rank he wanted or whatever). It's not that he hated it, but you're not going to hear about it a lot.
If you're angry that people are not fav'ing calm songs and discussing them left and right then you're forgetting the most basic thing that osu is a video game and not a jukebox.
Aqo, don't even bother arguing about this, it's pointless.
Not only he is wrong overall (most players are extremely bad and play easy maps forever) but is also not able to understand that some people find really entertaining to play hard stuff, and those players are usually the ones that do not suck, and when you don't suck you don't play easy maps because they bore you even more than watching random commercials on TV.
Also, you are breaking one of the golden Internet rules!!!
Not only he is wrong overall (most players are extremely bad and play easy maps forever) but is also not able to understand that some people find really entertaining to play hard stuff, and those players are usually the ones that do not suck, and when you don't suck you don't play easy maps because they bore you even more than watching random commercials on TV.
Also, you are breaking one of the golden Internet rules!!!
tl;dr "every easy map is boring, hard map rules, easy maps are for n00bs XDXXDDXXDXD"Wishy wrote:
Aqo, don't even bother arguing about this, it's pointless.
Not only he is wrong overall (most players are extremely bad and play easy maps forever) but is also not able to understand that some people find really entertaining to play hard stuff, and those players are usually the ones that do not suck, and when you don't suck you don't play easy maps because they bore you even more than watching random commercials on TV.
You're just proving what I said about you guys.~
Also, Aqo's post really does bring a point. However, I don't mean that "easy maps should be the center of the game", but that people should care more about following the song AND that there are some outstanding easier maps that are largely ignored simply because of the fact they are not hard enough. I didn't say all hard maps suck and that people should only play/discuss easy diffs.
Anyways, enough talking about this subject, we're not going anywhere. It's obvious that things will stay the way they are (as bad as it is).
Of course. Easy maps are extremely boring to me, hard maps are extremely fun to me, conclusion: I play hard maps. Map quality = challenging, fun to play, and maybe good looking for me. Some other people find map quality in something else like you do. I'd rather have a completely overmapped fun to play song than some perfectly mapped easy.
Games are for fun, if you have fun playing challenging stuff then that's what you are gonna play, and easy maps are not challenging at least you are half retarded or started playing this game a week ago.
Also, you are still wrong, most players are bad and play easy maps, thing is casuals don't really get into the forums and post, they just play, like in every game, so you won't see them here posting "qq that is too hard and ugly I LOVE THIS --> [Link to easy]".
Games are for fun, if you have fun playing challenging stuff then that's what you are gonna play, and easy maps are not challenging at least you are half retarded or started playing this game a week ago.
Also, you are still wrong, most players are bad and play easy maps, thing is casuals don't really get into the forums and post, they just play, like in every game, so you won't see them here posting "qq that is too hard and ugly I LOVE THIS --> [Link to easy]".
Mamoru Senpai
Shall I feel offended now because I started playing 2013 and play for challenging myself? x_x Pointless. My personal view: No matter what game I played, I tried always to challenge and improve myself. That's at one point not possible with only playing easier maps. And yes, I have more fun with focussing 100% on the game instead of waiting for clicking the next circle, while watching TV. When I start playing Osu! I do it because I want to play, not because I want to touch myself while playing.
*2013-trash out*
*2013-trash out*
...Wishy wrote:
I'd rather have a completely overmapped fun to play song than some perfectly mapped easy.
No.Wishy wrote:
Map quality = challenging
I can pass hard insanes like Ascension to Heaven by Zapy, but I still enjoy more calm maps, the same I enjoy more playing BD easier maps than his renards, airman etc.
Just saying there are ppl who have fun playing easier ones (but unfortunately 80% players care only about hard ones).
Mamoru Senpai
Take a look at the multiplayer lobbys and you'll see how many people are playing hard ones and how many playing easy ones. Just saying.Tidek wrote:
No.Wishy wrote:
Map quality = challenging
I can pass hard insanes like Ascension to Heaven by Zapy, but I still enjoy more calm maps, the same I enjoy more playing BD easier maps than his renards, airman etc.
Just saying there are ppl who have fun playing easier ones (but unfortunately 80% players care only about hard ones).
Most good players don't play in multi though
why doesnt anybody mention scarlet rose?
You know, the point is, Ellie Goulding - Burn by Ultimate is an OUTSTANDING map, it is INCREDIBLY good and fun.
I say that as a mapper and modder.
But when I'm actually playing I strive to become better. And since I won't improve all that much from playing that map, since I can already FC it, I most likely won't play it except for some random plays when F2 spits it out and I'm like "oh that map, might as well play it rn" after ranking on it.
I say that as a mapper and modder.
But when I'm actually playing I strive to become better. And since I won't improve all that much from playing that map, since I can already FC it, I most likely won't play it except for some random plays when F2 spits it out and I'm like "oh that map, might as well play it rn" after ranking on it.
Mamoru Senpai
Idk, I know more people who are hanging on hards for about 1 year than people who are playing really difficult stuff to improve themselves. Anyway, you don't need to care about what people prefer to play. And you don't have the right to complain about it. It's their business and you have to deal with it.GoldenWolf wrote:
Most good players don't play in multi though
People are playing with different intentions, that's a fact. So get used to it.
For me, map quality means that the map is fun, to be fun it has to be challenging. But that's just me, even if you submit the best map ever and get it ranked if it's very easy I'm gonna call it BORING.Tidek wrote:
No.Wishy wrote:
Map quality = challenging
I can pass hard insanes like Ascension to Heaven by Zapy, but I still enjoy more calm maps, the same I enjoy more playing BD easier maps than his renards, airman etc.
Just saying there are ppl who have fun playing easier ones (but unfortunately 80% players care only about hard ones).
Some people just don't have fun by playing easy stuff, that's it.
The biggest issue is that making a hard map that fits well is SO hard.
If I listed all the hard but actually impressively done maps, my list would be rather short. It's not that people don't want to follow the song, they just can't.
EDIT: And they never could, the only difference now is that there are more people who want hard maps in 2013.
If I listed all the hard but actually impressively done maps, my list would be rather short. It's not that people don't want to follow the song, they just can't.
EDIT: And they never could, the only difference now is that there are more people who want hard maps in 2013.
scarlet rose is hardest map
Im pretty sure my "imagine" statistics are close to truth ; )enik wrote:
StatisticsTidek wrote:
80%
About multiplayer, some1 already say that most better players dont spend time in multi.
¿¿¿¿
Ok, I will write it in details.
80% active players and players who CAN play insane maps (what mean that they can play hard and calm maps).
I didnt mean of course these 3,409,000 players where most isnt active ; )
80% active players and players who CAN play insane maps (what mean that they can play hard and calm maps).
I didnt mean of course these 3,409,000 players where most isnt active ; )
i find fast maps rather boring, unless they're mapped to the flow/fits in with the song. No map should ever have to use some crazy full screen jumps.
@BD you're only focusing on the negatives which is why so much h8 for 2013
@BD you're only focusing on the negatives which is why so much h8 for 2013
GladiOol wrote:
scarlet rose is hardest map
GoldenWolf wrote:
...Wishy wrote:
I'd rather have a completely overmapped fun to play song than some perfectly mapped easy.
Mamoru Senpai
^
Well, you're acting currently like your age.
You have to keep in mind that the standards now are higher than before 3 years trhough players like the Top50 and mapper like you (Big Black, Airman etc.).
Still can't understand why there's so much hate for people who want improve these days. Especially when they have fun with playing the game on a higher level.
Well, you're acting currently like your age.
You have to keep in mind that the standards now are higher than before 3 years trhough players like the Top50 and mapper like you (Big Black, Airman etc.).
Still can't understand why there's so much hate for people who want improve these days. Especially when they have fun with playing the game on a higher level.
Because for some reason people give a shit about other peoples taste in beat maps, specifically the desire for hard insane ones.
why the hell does it matter, really
why the hell does it matter, really
all these random titles thrown around at different peoples mapping styles, just because something is overmapped to hell doesnt mean it's not good
just look at airman
just look at airman
If you guys keep flaming the new trend in mapping instead of actually discussing beatmap difficulty, then I'm going to have to lock this thread. Which might not be a bad thing, actually.
Also, I love the second post in this thread.
Also, I love the second post in this thread.
Will this thread die one day?
Even after 4 years SSII is still the hardest beatmap ever and awp is still the best mapper ever.
I make hard maps sometimes, it's enjoyable
I like playing them and I like watching people play them, seeing who fails and who succeeds
Sometimes I can enjoy easier or slower maps, but only if I'm playing very casually... If I'm playing seriously I only care about going fast or getting a high rank, because that's what I find fun most of the time.
And I think this "well, only a small fraction of a percentage of the playerbase can enjoy them!" argument is very silly... the amount of well-made, challenging maps is very low compared to the amount of well-made, easier maps... I think it's really okay that difficult maps do exist to cater to those players that want to play them, and for everyone else, they can go find something else to play. There's plenty out there.
Anyways, this map is really difficult! At least, I hope it is (as that was my intention)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/97595
/end shameless self-promotion
I like playing them and I like watching people play them, seeing who fails and who succeeds
Sometimes I can enjoy easier or slower maps, but only if I'm playing very casually... If I'm playing seriously I only care about going fast or getting a high rank, because that's what I find fun most of the time.
And I think this "well, only a small fraction of a percentage of the playerbase can enjoy them!" argument is very silly... the amount of well-made, challenging maps is very low compared to the amount of well-made, easier maps... I think it's really okay that difficult maps do exist to cater to those players that want to play them, and for everyone else, they can go find something else to play. There's plenty out there.
Anyways, this map is really difficult! At least, I hope it is (as that was my intention)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/97595
/end shameless self-promotion
the songs by robot609 are impossible. theyre all graveyarded... (1000 BPM!)
Dont download them o-o
Dont download them o-o
Not this cancer again. Scarlet rose now go home.
Topic Starter
IOSYS - Cirno's Perfect Math Class [TAG4] has to be up there.
that dumb hatsune miku no shoushitsu jump map with the like 10 diffs for every ar
obligatory scarlet rose
This thread will never die
big black and freedom dive.
if you're talking tag4, i think there's that k-on ending theme map.
if you're talking tag4, i think there's that k-on ending theme map.
jesus1412 wrote:
Not this cancer again. Scarlet rose now go home.
lets just end the thread right here
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/171747
The sheer cpu shredding levels of ridiculousness that happen at the very end of that map make it the hardest map
fun fact: my pc got a
3000 combo with halftime + playback .5x
3000 combo nomod playback .5x [3000 would be the assumed max now]
2.7k combo with halftime
2000 combo nomod
1300 at the end with doubletime
900 when played without doubletime, but playback set to 2x
so this means the map is being simply too hard for auto, rather than some broken eternal spinner or the cursor getting stuck on a slider while notes appear around it. I've never seen this happen even on the vuvuzela map and centipede map where auto seems to hit those circles easily.
I believe this also depends on the processing power of the computer involved too, as well. You could use the last part of this map to determine how 'good' your computer is at Osu!. I guess my computer caps out at about 65.7 cookiezi's
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/171747
The sheer cpu shredding levels of ridiculousness that happen at the very end of that map make it the hardest map
fun fact: my pc got a
3000 combo with halftime + playback .5x
3000 combo nomod playback .5x [3000 would be the assumed max now]
2.7k combo with halftime
2000 combo nomod
1300 at the end with doubletime
900 when played without doubletime, but playback set to 2x
so this means the map is being simply too hard for auto, rather than some broken eternal spinner or the cursor getting stuck on a slider while notes appear around it. I've never seen this happen even on the vuvuzela map and centipede map where auto seems to hit those circles easily.
I believe this also depends on the processing power of the computer involved too, as well. You could use the last part of this map to determine how 'good' your computer is at Osu!. I guess my computer caps out at about 65.7 cookiezi's
Take the hardest map ever
Add any object
poof, new hardest map
Add any object
poof, new hardest map
big freedom image black rose
loll xDDDDDD
loll xDDDDDD
hardest map submitted in osu:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/173862 259.47 stars (length: 0:00, no difficulty name)
hardest map that is both submitted and has above zero drain time:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/386157 220.92 stars (9 seconds drain time, 10000 notes)
hardest map that has at least one minute drain time:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/69318 (18939 notes in 3:20 minutes, 74.81 stars)
hardest map that has at least one minute drain time and was submitted during 2013 or later:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/293477 (the [Hard], not the [Insane]. 31622 notes in 2 minutes. 65.63 stars)
a map that is actually cool on auto:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/372245 (Knife Party - Centipede. 30.46 stars apparently)
a map that is mapped good and actually looks like it was mapped to be played by humans but nobody will ever be good enough to play it:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/404663 (7.47 stars)
hardest ranked map:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/41686
*waiting for next necro*
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/173862 259.47 stars (length: 0:00, no difficulty name)
hardest map that is both submitted and has above zero drain time:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/386157 220.92 stars (9 seconds drain time, 10000 notes)
hardest map that has at least one minute drain time:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/69318 (18939 notes in 3:20 minutes, 74.81 stars)
hardest map that has at least one minute drain time and was submitted during 2013 or later:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/293477 (the [Hard], not the [Insane]. 31622 notes in 2 minutes. 65.63 stars)
a map that is actually cool on auto:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/372245 (Knife Party - Centipede. 30.46 stars apparently)
a map that is mapped good and actually looks like it was mapped to be played by humans but nobody will ever be good enough to play it:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/404663 (7.47 stars)
hardest ranked map:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/41686
*waiting for next necro*
259.47 stars one is corrupt, can't process it 
it's too hard for auto, he just quits the game when you try to load the map
This is the actual hardest beatmap ever. Everything else is irrelevant.Aqo wrote:
hardest ranked map:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/41686
/thread
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/150945
^ hardest map ever legit
^ hardest map ever legit
Scarlet rose. Haven't passed it yet.
How did you write that black text? XDFrizz wrote:
BD make loadsa hard maps ಠ_ಠ
But they're still playable anyway
GoldenWolf wrote:
GoldenWolf wrote:
GoldenWolf wrote:
please lock this thread
not before someone mentions scarlet rose
nogard is dragon backwards
I am not a very good osu player, but I know that https://osu.ppy.sh/b/106965&m=0 and https://osu.ppy.sh/s/41823 are really hard and that https://osu.ppy.sh/b/97462 map tops it all (10 Stars)! 
I am a very good osu! player and I think you just necro'ed an old topic which itself is a nonsense
i am a trashcan and i think this is my brother
Sry to annoy, but this is the hardest map I have ever seen https://osu.ppy.sh/s/150945 (it is not playable)
Winber.... Your just something special. It's like you never run out of highly intellectual comments. You are the great Aristotle of osu.
This thread
it's like Kenny
reverse Kenny actually, it doesn't die every episode, it gets revived every time
it's like Kenny
reverse Kenny actually, it doesn't die every episode, it gets revived every time
Maxi1 wrote:
Sry to annoy, but this is the hardest map I have ever seen https://osu.ppy.sh/s/150945 (it is not playable)
zwoots wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/34168
Hardest or not, it evacuates multiplayer matches like nothing else.
Garygoh884 wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/354252
I wonder if this would be a legimate beatmap. Might be possible with HT.
none of those maps are scarlet roseMaxi1 wrote:
I am not a very good osu player, but I know that https://osu.ppy.sh/b/106965&m=0 and https://osu.ppy.sh/s/41823 are really hard and that https://osu.ppy.sh/b/97462 map tops it all (10 Stars)!
i got 60% with nofailRewben2 wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/157763
Here's a post I made somewhere else now can this thread /rip for real. It's just the same joke being posted on every page along with the occasional person who has no clue. Seriously if you're going to lock other threads ( t/243653/start=0 ) for being answered then I don't see why this isn't locked.
Alright well excluding tag4 maps (including them utage would be the hardest to pass and would tie with some other tag4's for hardest to FC) then I'd say the hardest to pass map that is ranked is indeed four dimensions. I'm meant to be fucking baller at streams and STILL have only 5 clears on four dimensions after over 1300 attempts at the map. I have passed all the other "hard" maps numerous time and pretty much with ease. Image material, scarlet rose, rainbow dash, atama, big black etc are all very easy to pass compared to 4d. The hardest map to FC that isn't tag is probably shotgun symphony but I'll exclude that because it's only hard due to shitty mapping. This leaves us with a few choices for "hardest proper map to fc". I'd say it's between rainbow dash likes girls, image material, and four dimensions. Narrowing it down further because 4d has been fced multiple times be 3 people we're left with the conclusion that it's between rainbow dash and image material. The difficulty with FCing image material is entirely down to the length which means that if you want the hardest raw map with the hardest to fc patterns then rainbow dash is your map. If we're talking unranked maps then the hardest passed map ever was probably hatsune miku no shoushitsu (original ar9 version) (here's the play, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN6oznC_yqk ).
Some notable maps include: rainbow Tylenol, shotgun symphony, atama no taisou, strange program, forgotten, cry for eternity, he has no mittens, I, heterochrimia iridis, pluto, chipscape, matzcore, the big black, elemental creation, fallen world, through the fire and flames, revolution death squad, night of knights, don't say lazy, cirno's perfect math class, utage wa eien ni, barusa of mikosu, U.N Owen wa kanojo nanoka?, kokou no sousei and can't defeat airman.
(JK scarlet rose hardest map)
Alright well excluding tag4 maps (including them utage would be the hardest to pass and would tie with some other tag4's for hardest to FC) then I'd say the hardest to pass map that is ranked is indeed four dimensions. I'm meant to be fucking baller at streams and STILL have only 5 clears on four dimensions after over 1300 attempts at the map. I have passed all the other "hard" maps numerous time and pretty much with ease. Image material, scarlet rose, rainbow dash, atama, big black etc are all very easy to pass compared to 4d. The hardest map to FC that isn't tag is probably shotgun symphony but I'll exclude that because it's only hard due to shitty mapping. This leaves us with a few choices for "hardest proper map to fc". I'd say it's between rainbow dash likes girls, image material, and four dimensions. Narrowing it down further because 4d has been fced multiple times be 3 people we're left with the conclusion that it's between rainbow dash and image material. The difficulty with FCing image material is entirely down to the length which means that if you want the hardest raw map with the hardest to fc patterns then rainbow dash is your map. If we're talking unranked maps then the hardest passed map ever was probably hatsune miku no shoushitsu (original ar9 version) (here's the play, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN6oznC_yqk ).
Some notable maps include: rainbow Tylenol, shotgun symphony, atama no taisou, strange program, forgotten, cry for eternity, he has no mittens, I, heterochrimia iridis, pluto, chipscape, matzcore, the big black, elemental creation, fallen world, through the fire and flames, revolution death squad, night of knights, don't say lazy, cirno's perfect math class, utage wa eien ni, barusa of mikosu, U.N Owen wa kanojo nanoka?, kokou no sousei and can't defeat airman.
(JK scarlet rose hardest map)