Just to add that what fails the most about this strategy is the fact that we don't know exactly which characters and in the game. Then the problems comes when someone may claim to be an obscure one which isn't even on this!Sephibro wrote:
Some characters are for sure in the game. If someone claims one of those roles and there's no crossclaim, i'm gonna trust him 100%
If there's a crossclaim, we're set, as at least one of the two is scum
Then there are the "outsider" roles, which are i guess 5 maybe? SCUM ARE AMONG THESE CLAIMS FOR SURE
Well gg, i just realized that massclaiming is the right strategy to win this game
@mod: is every ability unique or more than one character can have the same ability?
Why does it seem that you WANT to claim?Sephibro wrote:
looks like i'm L-3, first claim of the game is close
Sephibro wrote:
pieguy read this topic but he didn't answer, that's suspect.
-_-Sephibro wrote:
pieguy is the only town leaning read i have for now
Rantai wrote:
@mod - can this game's alignments be determined by the character's anime "alignments"
CalignoBot in the Original Announcement wrote:
c. Alignments in this universe's canon will not be relevant in this setup.
c. To be absolutely clear: Any character can be any alignment.
knowing this, it is clear that a massclaim would be completely uselessCalignoBot wrote:
c. To be absolutely clear: Any character can be any alignment.
He thought he could act a bit careless and then claiming to get townread from us, but:Sephibro wrote:
Since most of us know the anime characters, we can make pretty accurate setup speculation. Why aren't we doing this already?
Furude Rika
Sonozaki Mion
Sonozaki Shion
Ryuuguu Rena
Hojou Satoko
Maebara Keiichi
^These characters are for sure in the game and they should be all town aligned (6/12)
It's still not confirmed that he's townCalignoBot in the Original Announcement wrote:
c. Alignments in this universe's canon will not be relevant in this setup.
c. To be absolutely clear: Any character can be any alignment.
If no, I don't need to say anymore.Dusting my hands here.
i didn't understand what you mean with thisIrreversible wrote:
you put tons of scumpartners
no, I didn't. :> I wanna know how you intend to find out who the mafia are by playing like this. without voting people to pressure them or get information, it becomes much harder to get "sure" information, at least IMO.NoHItter wrote:
I think you misread what I wrote. I said that I wouldn't vote someone quickly unless there was sure information. Since it's D1 and we have no sure information, I won't vote quickly.
why Sakura? I'm townreading her atmSephibro wrote:
Sakura + Rantai for scum imo
Sephibro wrote:
re-read all my posts and you'll see that there's no incoherence in my thoughts
kNoHitter wrote:
Sephibro wrote:
pieguy read this topic but he didn't answer, that's suspect.Sephibro wrote:
pieguy is the only town leaning read i have for now
Discussion? You don't have to pressure vote people early to get information. I prefer placing my votes after discussion has taken place.pieguy1372 wrote:
no, I didn't. :> I wanna know how you intend to find out who the mafia are by playing like this. without voting people to pressure them or get information, it becomes much harder to get "sure" information, at least IMO.
I don't understand this.Sephibro wrote:
Actually i wanted to AVOID a massclaim until i thought about that last strategy, but sinceknowing this, it is clear that a massclaim would be completely uselessCalignoBot wrote:
c. To be absolutely clear: Any character can be any alignment.
with "those posts" i mean to propose the massclaim as a good strategy in the endSephibro wrote:
Btw i can tell you that my role's abilities and alignment are the same as anime character's, that's why i supposed it was like this for every character in the game and made those posts
Thinking about it, the best it would do is allow role speculation to occur, which doesn't really help town at all.rEdo wrote:
don't wanna defend him or anything, but that could've gone out of curiousity. still, I have no idea what we're going to get even if everybody claims. in this game even Satoko could be scum, just for the shiggles, so setup speculation is pretty much useless at this point of the game.
I'm not ignore you if that makes you feel better.DakeDekaane wrote:
I love how I'm being ignored.
I've only heard from Rantai so far, what do YOU think?Irreversible wrote:
And are you going to tell the reasons why?
I believe Sakura is just making reaction tests. Pressure is put upon you when you are voted and often people say something they shouldn't have to. Anyways, seems like a good investigation. Pretty obvious Sephibro is scum, he just contradicted himself way too many times. And his reasons are just... meh.Irreversible wrote:
This might sound stupid now, but may I ask why i have a townread? People tend to trick me with that, so that's what gives be a slight scumread about you. Nevertheless, it's good that you're scumhunting.
Please dont ever target me with this.Sephibro wrote:
Calming Presence: night active - i may visit one person a night, calming them down > target loses 2HS levels
RogerSakura wrote:
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backing your arguments with a vote helps a lot in getting discussion. proving my point :>NoHItter wrote:
Discussion? You don't have to pressure vote people early to get information. I prefer placing my votes after discussion has taken place.
exactly what I want to sayfartownik wrote:
EBWODP: Forgot to mention. STOP BEING FUCKING SILLY. Flavor doesn't matter ANYHOW while judging the alignment in this game. I'm talking to Sephibro and Irreversible here. I stated that shit right in the beginning, and I thought you understood.
Sephibro wrote:
pieguy read this topic but he didn't answer, that's suspect.
@Sephibro: I'm so busy =A= I don't have the chance to post every time I look at the thread. I like to check back here every so often to keep up even if I don't have the chance to make a post orzfartownik wrote:
Sakura was writing up for a little while too. She decided to post only after I did though, with nothing else than a response to me as her first sentence.
Intredasting.
BRBP wrote:
What is my town meta then?
townIrre wrote:
This might sound stupid now, but may I ask why i have a townread? People tend to trick me with that, so that's what gives be a slight scumread about you. Nevertheless, it's good that you're scumhunting.
rEdo wrote:
Sephibro wrote:
And tbh, i still think NoLynch is a good strategy for d1 in a game like this. Well, unless you want everyone to claim d1mind to elaborate why do you think this is a good strategy?nevermind, you did that earlier. so what if we don't lynch anyone today? we also won't get to know ANYTHING from it, while the HS levels increase. we won't gain much by massclaiming either.
holy shit I just ended up typing the same stuff as farto did, AGAIN
FACK YOU STOP READING MY MIND WHILE I'M READING THE TOPIC AND RESPONDING TO THEM POSTS RESPECTIVELY IN ORDERthe game would we way too slow if scum couldn't add up less than 3 HS points, actually I believe it's more.Sephibro wrote:
the nightkill only occours when someone reaches 5 HS, I don't think that someone can reach such a high value on n1 only
FoS: Sephibro
Was there really a need for you to FoS the same person twice?rEdo wrote:
don't wanna defend him or anything, but that could've gone out of curiousity. still, I have no idea what we're going to get even if everybody claims. in this game even Satoko could be scum, just for the shiggles, so setup speculation is pretty much useless at this point of the game.
FoS: Sephibro
gonna hold on with the vote, I wanna read some more from him.
This is starting to be more of a discussion about preferred method of play rather than the game itself...pieguy1372 wrote:
backing your arguments with a vote helps a lot in getting discussion. proving my point :>NoHItter wrote:
Discussion? You don't have to pressure vote people early to get information. I prefer placing my votes after discussion has taken place.
As I said, it's not certain. I believe he's not scum, but I wouldn't put him on the townread list either since he still might end up being scum. The list consists pretty much safe bets of players being Town, Sephibro is yet to be one.NoHitter wrote:
@farto:
You believe Sephibro's not scum, but you don't think he's town either based on your read list?
That's legit, i agree that i've been playing quite retarded lately; i had convinced myself that game alignment == anime alignment and blindly focused on that despite warnings.fartownik wrote:
As I said, it's not certain. I believe he's not scum, but I wouldn't put him on the townread list either since he still might end up being scum. The list consists pretty much safe bets of players being Town, Sephibro is yet to be one.
I'm going to comment that my reason for Scum BRBP isn't meta related, but it is true I haven't mentioned it, I probably will do so next week if people still can't tell why or how I came up with those reads.Rantai wrote:
I'm a little concerned at how fast that wagon formed with a lot of meta arguments being thrown around.
BRBP wrote:
Sakura wrote:
Vote: Blue YoshiSakura wrote:
Unvote
Vote: NoHitterThis is literally all you've said. Can you even talk?Sakura wrote:
Unvote
Vote: Sephibro
Deadline is on the 19th... yeah no.DakeDekaane wrote:
At this rate, no lynch is going to happen. Nice timing to change the wagon.
what does him FoS'ing the same person twice imply?NoHItter wrote:
Was there really a need for you to FoS the same person twice?
it's not a discussion about a method of play. it's a discussion about your intent to find scum. given your previous games, I don't see a similar town intent to find scum in this game. = =NoHItter wrote:
This is starting to be more of a discussion about preferred method of play rather than the game itself...
"here we go again" implies they did it before, can you link where they did it before plz? mb I just missed it @_@Zexion_Vi wrote:
And here we go again, acussing me of scum because I'm being shy? I'm not posting too much because of my RL lol. I don't know what's "shy" about me. Also I'm not good on scumhunting.
what is this I don't evenRantai wrote:
I don't see any logical or constructed defense.
Seems you ran out of steam for your half-assed anti-town plan fast and now resorting to baseless accusations.
o.o has there been 1 before?DakeDekaane wrote:
At this rate, no lynch is going to happen. Nice timing to change the wagon.
Unvote
Vote: BRBP
I don't think so. As it was stated before, the game would be way too slow or too difficult if the scum couldn't increase multiple HS levels in a night. Taking a wild guess here, but its plausible to say they could kill a person a night if all of them targeted the same person.DakeDekaane wrote:
Scum can't NK in this game, unless they can increase the HS level of one person multiple times in a single night, and I doubt there's a PR that can kill.
If we go for no-lynch we are relying too much in PRs, which I don't like too much, as it's mere luck that we can get useful interaction/results without risking our identities, this could lead to a massclaim, which I'm still neutral to do.
How is that random lynch thing? I can't see that happening or being suggested.
It means lynching someone with nothing more than just a feeling of him being scum. Policy lynch is lynching someone because he did something that may be scummy or anti-townDakeDekaane wrote:
How is that random lynch thing? I can't see that happening or being suggested.
Sephibro wrote:
nice edit, i was about to correct that
How can you townread someone who didn't talk at all?Sakura wrote:
Town: NoHitter, Blue Yoshi, Irreversible.
Blue Yoshi wrote:
Explain por favor.Sakura wrote:
Vote: Blue Yoshi