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boat

SiFly wrote:

I've won a ranked as soraka jungle. Doesn't mean people are happy that i picked it, same goes with those other picks you listed, though jarvan might be decent as support if the enemies don't have jumps/dashes.
It doesn't necessarily work backwards. Not the same concept.

If you don't prioritize excessive ward coverage, alternatively sustain or generally slightly stronger/more CC you can always use that extra position to get some more dps and a different kind of utility. Just about anyone clearly "works" as a "support", but you would generally have to favor champs with either good base damage or good utility. Orianna and zyra have CC and utility, elise has health % damage, your jungler can get aegis and everyone should at least buy a few wards once in a while. Of course you can build damage increasing items on a support as well, but it should be obvious why say elise support, given nami doesn't land an amazing bubble or doesn't have her ult up, can be far more useful in a teamfight.

In uncoordinated play such as low level yoloqueue you'd often benefit more from significantly more damage than a squishy ward-bot. And if you're bad at the general support champions and are forced to support anyways I'd rather have you play a champion you're good with despite it not being what people would generally pick. Chances are you'll do better with that pick than if you'd play first time blitz and get 500 fieldgoals in a twenty minute game.

People don't like unconventional picks because just like this community, everyone are xenophobes. Whenever you try something outside of the meta people either assume that you suck and don't know jack or that you've seen it on some stream and expect the outcome to be the same. Just go ahead and pick whatever you do well with. It's a game, froggen wont come knocking on your door ready to beat you up just because you played jungle anivia.
Backfire
I won another ranked with Diana.

Is this character just hard to play against? Me and my friend duo queued as Akali mid and Diana jungle and it was like...we'd just jump on people and they'd instantly die. Seems pretty stupidly over powered against crappy bronze kids.

Zac support also seems fairly viable in solo queue. Especially if you get something like amumu for your jungler. Infinite gap-closers.

Anyways, I do usually play support and my carry always seems to pick the wrong things, unfortunately. (MF vs. Vayne? No please. The guy had Cait too.)
boat
Both diana and akali are assasins, of course you'll rack up kills with both, and with a big gold advantage victory often comes as well.

Then one day comes a team clever enough to get this thing called MR/CC and focus you down. I like diana as well and got a somewhat of a positive win/loss ratio with her, but both are very vulnerable to cc and reliant on the enemy team either being pants on head retarded or only have damage from one hypercarry. Your job is pretty much to either pick somebody off or jump through the frontline and kill a high priority target, where as the former is most commonly only applicable when playing against knobheads. You got no innate escape but your flash (or ulti to a minion if you're lucky enough to have one nearby), play more than two games and you'll start noticing how she drops of severely against loads of bruisers or getting shut down.
ouranhshc

zerothefallen wrote:

there is like 2 osu na teams both like low silver/high bronze


thats why im not part of it lol
Douchebag move
boat
He's a FPer, go figure .<.

the fp osu thread got revived so get used to seeing a lot more asshats coming in
UnderminE
I'm an ass hat, hug me boat
Vulf
Diana is still incredibly strong, and i have no idea why people stopped playing her. She's kinda dumb with how randomly tanky she gets for having a double shield.

Akali is more of a drain tank when compared to diana, which makes her a lot easier to shut down. She kinda got nerfed too hard a few months back. Still strong if you manage to pick up a couple of kills early.
GeeNX
You can counter her, and they stopped playing her because she got A FEW nerfed, and it's like... Diana gets nerfed with....no one plays her. NOW, LEBLANC'S ABILITIES....ALL THE PEOPLE PLAYS LEBLANC AND FUCKS SOLOQ
BrokenArrow
SOMEONE TEACH ME HOW TO NOT BEHAVE TOXIC WHEN HAVING COMPLETE RETARDS IN MY TEAM EVERY SINGLE TIME I MAKE IT TO A PROMOTION GAME
P-Please? ;w;
Vulf
Yeah the new Leblanc makes me really sad. I like that champion a lot, but she kinda sucks with the changes. She relies on comboing all of her abilities to deal damage instead of just Q, and R now. So if you end up missing E or W's splash damage you pretty much don't even deal damage lol. :(

Official patch notes are out, though anyone who keeps up with the PBE will already know all the changes.
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/sho ... ?t=3718336

Elise and Vayne nerfs! <3
Hika
ELISE NERFS ILY and finally Vayne's ult gets a higher cooldown.
Well, the turrets get buffed as well as Baron. Makes me kinda sad.
Kanye West

BrokenArrow wrote:

SOMEONE TEACH ME HOW TO NOT BEHAVE TOXIC WHEN HAVING COMPLETE RETARDS IN MY TEAM EVERY SINGLE TIME I MAKE IT TO A PROMOTION GAME
P-Please? ;w;
You can't change how others behave/play so focus on yourself. You can't win every game; sometimes you have to accept that the other team is simply better and they played better rather than blaming your own team. The best way to get better as a player is to self-criticize and improve your own game sense. Keep buff and objective timers, even if you aren't jungle or support. Keep track of enemy ward locations and enemy ward timers. Keep track of enemy jungler movements. If you can't do that, just try to keep track of one more thing at a time every game you play.
BrokenArrow
But I always play perfectly fine.

And the TF pick-a-card change (or rather nerf) makes me sad. At least AP Yi is finally gone.
Justykanna

Kanye West wrote:

You can't change how others behave/play so focus on yourself. You can't win every game; sometimes you have to accept that the other team is simply better and they played better rather than blaming your own team. The best way to get better as a player is to self-criticize and improve your own game sense. Keep buff and objective timers, even if you aren't jungle or support. Keep track of enemy ward locations and enemy ward timers. Keep track of enemy jungler movements. If you can't do that, just try to keep track of one more thing at a time every game you play.
Wish everyone had this mindset.

BrokenArrow wrote:

At least AP Yi is finally gone.
Agreed.
those


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Nofool

Kanye West wrote:

BrokenArrow wrote:

SOMEONE TEACH ME HOW TO NOT BEHAVE TOXIC WHEN HAVING COMPLETE RETARDS IN MY TEAM EVERY SINGLE TIME I MAKE IT TO A PROMOTION GAME
P-Please? ;w;
You can't change how others behave/play so focus on yourself. You can't win every game; sometimes you have to accept that the other team is simply better and they played better rather than blaming your own team. The best way to get better as a player is to self-criticize and improve your own game sense. Keep buff and objective timers, even if you aren't jungle or support. Keep track of enemy ward locations and enemy ward timers. Keep track of enemy jungler movements. If you can't do that, just try to keep track of one more thing at a time every game you play.
or just find a duoQ with an highter elo than your 8D

i think that only diamond and challenger players can do all thoses things (and play well a lot of char y) ,_,
Kanye West
Duo queueing with a higher elo person just means you have to play even better so you're not dead weight, it doesn't invalidate my post.

BrokenArrow wrote:

But I always play perfectly fine.
If this were true, then you should be able to shut down your matchup so hard that by midgame, the game is effectively 4v5 or 3v5 because your opponent is severely behind. Also you should have 0 deaths, take every dragon, win every teamfight and force a surrender at 20 minutes in every ranked game you play until you hit diamond 1/challenger.
BrokenArrow
If I could, I would clone myself 4 times, create a ranked with them and do exactly what's written above.
Nofool

Kanye West wrote:

Duo queueing with a higher elo person just means you have to play even better so you're not dead weight, it doesn't invalidate my post.
never tryed to ! ;_; i only think that this can be another good solution to improve your skill and maybe your elo
like i started lol with only lvl 30 friends so i had to play against lvl 30 when i was lvl 1 8D
now im maybe better than all of them hue
tyrael6192
just lost my gold3 promo because of a bot lane premade

blitzcrank calls an invade so we go to their blue. we don't get it, so rammus' jungle is screwed over, and both me and jarvan come back to lane underlevelled. moments later bot lane gives first blood and feeds to a total score of something like 2/14

moral of the story bot lane premades are cancer
maal

tyrael6192 wrote:

just lost my gold3 promo because of a bot lane premade

blitzcrank calls an invade so we go to their blue. we don't get it, so rammus' jungle is screwed over, and both me and jarvan come back to lane underlevelled. moments later bot lane gives first blood and feeds to a total score of something like 2/14

moral of the story bot lane premades are cancer
I AM SRY FOR NOT BEING THERE TO CURRY YOU
Backfire
Lose 3 rankeds in a row, feel like shit

Win 3 rankeds in a row, feel like a baller.

Kennen best champ in the game amiriteheheueheu
GeeNX
BrokenArrow, I can help you, but I can help you to rage even more

My LoL madness gets the point of being very calmed, but when they ALL FLASH, USE ALL IGNITES, ALL FUCKING ULTIES FOR KILLING ME, JUST ME

I start to get mad
Kanye West
lol you should be happy that they burned all those flashes and ignites then

so when you get back to lane, you can take a massive dump over them
GeeNX
Well, I didn't see it that way :)

BUT STILL, IT MAKES ME MAD WHEN THEY USE THE SUMMONERS ALWAYS FOR ME iasfnoiasnfoiasfjoiasjoia
tiper

tyrael6192 wrote:

just lost my gold3 promo because of a bot lane premade

blitzcrank calls an invade so we go to their blue. we don't get it, so rammus' jungle is screwed over, and both me and jarvan come back to lane underlevelled. moments later bot lane gives first blood and feeds to a total score of something like 2/14

moral of the story bot lane premades are cancer
If your jungler doesn't know when he can invade... he really sux then. So, he wouldn't be good. But I'm agree that botlane premades suck tho.
Tip(how2jungle in soloq):
1)Take udyr
2)Up your Q(you should have AD quints\doran blade instead of machete's hunter)
2)Take your blue or red(depends on)
3)Run to the enemy forest
4)Smite second buff
5)Kill jungler
6)Find line w\o escape abilities
7)E->Q
8)Repeat (6) and (7)( you may repeat (4) and (5) too ) 'til the end
9)GG Riots nerf udyr please
GeeNX
That doesn't work when they ward their jungle at lv1, u rush your buff, u go invade, u see mid and top/bot coming to kill you while ur teammates most of times don't even ping it and 99% times never follow. You lost buffs, you are behind in lvl

GG Team nerf teammates pls
tiper
they ward their jungle at lv1
gold3
Cool story. Moar please.
don't even ping it
I didn't hear that blind people can play LoL. You have your own eyes. Why would not you use your eyes in order to check the map?
You lost buffs
Explain me one thing. You are level3 cuz you took second buff. Enemy jungler is level 2. Toplaner and midlaner are lvl2. ADC and his supp are lvl1. How the hell they can kill you when you are Udyr and you have flash?
GeeNX
I tend to use udyr with ghost, depends on their enemy team tho. I have my own eyes, but even if I see them coming I might be surrounded. I might not be level 3 yet since they had a ward SO I couldn't steal. In my elo they don't always ward, but sometimes they do
tiper
Now it gets harder cuz of 3.10 patch. I think, that still would be done tho.
Hika
Here comes the patch. Oh how I really wish to play.
tyrael6192

maal wrote:

I AM SRY FOR NOT BEING THERE TO CURRY YOU
worst maal na
tiper

Hika wrote:

Here comes the patch. Oh how I really wish to play.
Play then. Or NA still wasn't updated?
Hika
I'm pretty sure NA is down for another 30 minutes to an hour. And those last few hours were really excruciating.
BrokenArrow
> First game with patch 3.10
> Gets Yi in ARAM
> Realizes he is stronger than the old Yi

Seriously, AD Yi is scary. Got almost 500 AD with 5 items, close to 2.0 attack speed with ulti on, 130 true damage each hit with e on.
The only thing that actually got weaker is his heal, which is pretty useless now. BUT DAMN, THAT DPS IS JUST RIDICULOUS.
+1 Riot, well done.
SiFly_old

Justykanna wrote:

Kanye West wrote:

You can't change how others behave/play so focus on yourself. You can't win every game; sometimes you have to accept that the other team is simply better and they played better rather than blaming your own team. The best way to get better as a player is to self-criticize and improve your own game sense. Keep buff and objective timers, even if you aren't jungle or support. Keep track of enemy ward locations and enemy ward timers. Keep track of enemy jungler movements. If you can't do that, just try to keep track of one more thing at a time every game you play.
Wish everyone had this mindset.

I just make sure i maintain 67%+ winrate, so i keep winning more than i lose. Guess I prefer winning or something and that is why i got more accounts aswell prob? But indeed that is the only mindset you should play with, if you want to improve.

Quite easy to improve though, still seeing me do more than 10 throws/min while being at gold elo.
Backfire
Just won in a 2 Yi game. Other yi was shit, our Yi was a baller. had 3 BTs, LW and boots. I told him to sell his executioners for an infinity but he was raping so I guess it didn't matter.

Keep in mind, it was a 4 v 5. This yi carried us THAT hard.

New Yi more OP than old yi?
Justykanna

Backfire wrote:

Just won in a 2 Yi game. Other yi was shit, our Yi was a baller. had 3 BTs, LW and boots. I told him to sell his executioners for an infinity but he was raping so I guess it didn't matter.

Keep in mind, it was a 4 v 5. This yi carried us THAT hard.

New Yi more OP than old yi?
Since there's only one real way to build now, they just basically combined the two older ways (AD-autoattacker, plus AP-Alpha Strike) into one better one.
So yeah, he's definitely better now.
Nofool

Backfire wrote:

New Yi AD more OP than old yi?
yeah ofc like justykanna said but anyway he got nothing against cc, like before
so they probably won't pick yi in hight elo games or lcs
GeeNX
PLayed 3 normal games

2 yi every time each match
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