Lolicore Flandre wrote:

space button

TamaraMarie wrote:

Yeah, definitely good to just skip 6k and move on to 7k. 7k is the hardest for me because it's an odd number of keys. Naturally, it's easier for most to play 4k and 6k because they're symmetrical and you're using the same amount of fingers (and normally, the same fingers) on each hand. However, for 5k and 7k, you have to decide which keys and fingers you want to use in the most comfortable manner.

And 8k is just plain evil. Never play it for it is a spawn of Satan.

Bobbias wrote:

I've been playing Stepmania and O2jam for years off and on now (10 years since I started Stepmania) so I've had experience with 4k style and 7k. I prefer 7k, mostly because if the patterns. Oddly, I suck at 6k even though I'm decent at 7k. I need the spacebar to help me tell whether a note is on the left side or the right.

Every keyboard's ghosting patterns are different. I play 7k and I had to modify my keys just a bit from the standard layout.

I use:
SDF HJK

SDF JKL wouldn't work because L causes ghosting.

USB keyboards can't use more than 6 keys at once, due to limitations in how USB works. PS/2, the old round connector, can allow more than 6 keys at once, but most keyboards still have ghosting issues. Connecting a USB keyboard through a USB to PS/2 converter will NOT help.

Lolicore Flandre wrote:

For me playing 6K does NOT help me even one bit to improve at 7K, I suggest you move to 7K ..OR 5K if you want less keys to get used to the space button for middle key because its pretty tricky compared to 4K/6K which doesn't have a middle key. Start off with easier songs on 7K and try to move up gradually. Getting used to the keys is very important if you want to get better.

Agka wrote:

People will mostly make maps for 7k. This is true, so I'm moving away from it into 6k and 8k, because I hate the spacebar.

Mind you, I can play 7k.

[AirCoN] wrote:

i don't have horizontal rollover for 3keys or more lol. I'm stuck with 5K - fv b hu.

however, i think 7K might work if I use rfv "space" bhu

BRBP wrote:

All I had to do is buy a USB-keyboard and use any 7-key combination I want.
Life's hard.

USB protocol limitation - A max of 10 simultaneous key presses are recognized, 6 non-modifier keys ('w', 'a', 's', 'd', etc) + 4 modifier keys (Shift, Caps, Ctrl, etc). Although you are limited to 6 regular keys you are still guaranteed that any combination of keys will be recognized properly if you have an n-key rollover keyboard. I would guess that most people would not need support for more keys than this. I would also guess that the 6 key limit may have had something to do with braille input requirements rather than someone choosing an arbitrary limit (although that doesn't explain why the limit exists in the first place).

Bobbias wrote:

custom drivers

Shadow wrote:

So, I've decided to move away from 4k, since I wanted a bigger challenge. So, last week or so I've been messing around with 6k. (with the ultimate goal of moving over to 7k in the end of the day) I'm still missing a lot, but I'm slowly getting the hang of it. Liking it a lot too.

I'm just wondering if I'm shooting myself in the foot? Should I skip 6k, bite the bullet and jump straight to 7k? Or, once I'm decent at 6k, will it help make 7key easier to learn?

Bobbias wrote:

USB keyboards can't use more than 6 keys at once, due to limitations in how USB works. PS/2, the old round connector, can allow more than 6 keys at once, but most keyboards still have ghosting issues. Connecting a USB keyboard through a USB to PS/2 converter will NOT help.

CooLExtreme wrote:

Shadow wrote:

So, I've decided to move away from 4k, since I wanted a bigger challenge. So, last week or so I've been messing around with 6k. (with the ultimate goal of moving over to 7k in the end of the day) I'm still missing a lot, but I'm slowly getting the hang of it. Liking it a lot too.

I'm just wondering if I'm shooting myself in the foot? Should I skip 6k, bite the bullet and jump straight to 7k? Or, once I'm decent at 6k, will it help make 7key easier to learn?

Just jump into 7k :3 You'll get to impress the ladies, and everyone will want to be your friend

Bobbias wrote:

USB keyboards can't use more than 6 keys at once, due to limitations in how USB works. PS/2, the old round connector, can allow more than 6 keys at once, but most keyboards still have ghosting issues. Connecting a USB keyboard through a USB to PS/2 converter will NOT help.

While it is true that USB does not allow more than 6 keys at once, if you connect your USB keyboard to a PS/2 port via a USB to PS/2 converter, it WILL get over the USB 6-key limit (not the keyboard's inherent ghosting, though)

Bobbias wrote:

Can you show me something that proves that? I don't want to outright say you're wrong, because I don't know everything about how that stuff works, but I was under the impression that it still wouldn't work that way. If you have a link that explains how that works I'd appreciate it (I'm honestly interested to see if that's true). A quick google search says that some keyboard manufacturers (rosewill, and CM Storm's Quickfire keyboards among others) do claim to achieve NKRO through a USB to PS/2 adapter, but that most others still don't. (http://forum.notebookreview.com/accesso ... ost8779284)

I should also point out that it's confirmed a number of keyboards are stuck with 6kro even with an adapter (in the same thread) and that the keyboard mentioned here are rather expensive compared to your standard $5 basic USB keyboard.