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How long did it take you to pass Insane songs?

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Sup A Noob
555 posts
Joined November 2009
Sup A Noob
I like how time taken to pass Insanes can get completely derailed into something like mouse. The bottomline for mouse users is, turn off whatever pointer prediction your system has for the mouse (not acceleration).

Now, back to topic.

I've answered my part, so here's a tip. If you want to pass Insanes in the shortest amount of time possible, spent as much time possible on as many harder-than-your-current-skill-level maps as possible while taking that time to experiment on different playstyles and gaming philosophies. Once you get that drilled and secured in your head you should be in good stead to pass Insanes just for the fun of it.
Sprobius
11 posts
Joined March 2012
Sprobius
That's how we do it nowadays. :)
silmarilen
5,582 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
it usually takes me about 2-3 minutes to pass an insane song
RaneFire
1,181 posts
Joined May 2011
RaneFire
4 months to pass. Another 4 months to 95%+ acc some of the easier ones.

G0r wrote:

Some pros in some older FPS games used to occassionally use third party drivers to add very minor acceleration to their mouse movements, but it was only a fraction of the acceleration added by EPP.
Pro quake players still use minor acceleration values today, but you can't believe anyone's settings at face value until you know what hacks they've made to their drivers. Also nearly all mouse sensors cause +/- accel to some degree, with the exception being a few tried and tested mice. And 'back in the day' there were no 100% reliable sensors, so players added a comfortable level of accel to counteract it, and if mousepad friction bothered them slightly.
Preference, preference, preference.

Vulf wrote:

Simply un-checking the "Enhance Pointer Precision" box in your mouse settings does not completely remove mouse acceleration. If you want exactly a 1-to-1 mouse to pointer response your going to have to edit a registry in most cases.
Windows 7 is the first in the Windows line to have fixed this issue. You need only run the registry fix if you play ut99 or cs 1.6, etc.
i.e. Old games that call on the old name for the function that was replaced with EPP since Windows XP.

G0r wrote:

Osu!'s mouse sensitivity option is a correction of the formula used to calculate mouse movement. It simply calculates the movement more accurately where the old formula apparently rounded some values, as stated by Peppy. They are not related in any way.
Yes, osu!'s settings simply allows for decimal points on the cursor's position, making the use of values other than 1.0x more accurate.
-Soba-
374 posts
Joined January 2011
-Soba-
I'm not sure since I still fail them
smoogipoo
osu!dev
517 posts
Joined August 2011
smoogipoo
When I started osu!, I played a small amount of easy maps before moving to hard maps. I remember the last hard map I ever played was Nehanshika. After that I swapped to tablet + keyboard and my accuracy started going down, but eventually I became better and reached my current (93.39%) accuracy. I guess if I were to estimate, it would have taken me about 1.5-2 months before I started insanes. I mostly stick to insanes which I can pass in an effort to raise my PP though, and I'm currently playing barely passable songs (at least for me), so my PP is dropping fast.
threenash
1,043 posts
Joined May 2010
threenash
got my first S on Insane the day I got my tablet... lol
G0r
389 posts
Joined September 2011
G0r
But did you play like Cookiezi?
enik
276 posts
Joined December 2011
enik
Bought a tablet, now I play like Cookiezi. With a mouse.
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Valentiino
1,945 posts
Joined June 2011
Valentiino
I rarely aim for passes :I

I mostly aim for FC's which take me around 1-*** amount of retries to achieve (Insanes & stuff on DT)

Current avarage for me is 41 retries
G0r
389 posts
Joined September 2011
G0r
If it's not FC, then it's not good enough. *hits retry*
Valentiino
1,945 posts
Joined June 2011
Valentiino
I really should try to get rid of that mentality. It's quite hard since I'm a bit of a obsessive perfectionist :x
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo
Look at it the other way
If you can FC, then it's too easy for you
Valentiino
1,945 posts
Joined June 2011
Valentiino
No. Most of the time I have to retry so many times, coz I'm not easily able to FC that song with a decent accuracy.

And getting accurate results is quite important for me.

Besides, most of the map that yields a non-pass try for me are maps with ridicilous bpm & long streams. I suck at those, therefore I mostly aim for FC's on every map
silmarilen
5,582 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
if you can FC something means nothing, if you cant FC it, no matter how much you try its too hard, if you can fc it with less than 9x% acc its too hard
if you can fc it with 98+ acc its good.
ofcourse this is purely subjective, and there is no definition of when a map is too hard or too easy for you, which everybody knows ofcourse.
G0r
389 posts
Joined September 2011
G0r

silmarilen wrote:

if you can FC something means nothing, if you cant FC it, no matter how much you try its too hard, if you can fc it with less than 9x% acc its too hard
if you can fc it with 98+ acc its good.
ofcourse this is purely subjective, and there is no definition of when a map is too hard or too easy for you, which everybody knows ofcourse.
I use this exact scale.
AWESOME-SAMA
22 posts
Joined July 2011
AWESOME-SAMA
I don't even bother playing insane man.
I only get like, the first 10 notes or so.
aggums
84 posts
Joined September 2008
aggums
I still can't pass most of them, but hey, I'm working on it.
Mints
194 posts
Joined October 2012
Mints
I think I started passing insane after a month of playing, and fcing it half a month later. Guess I'm average?
Bweh
486 posts
Joined September 2012
Bweh
Within the week. Though it was much of an easy Insane, so not much pride in that.
Starry-
osu! Alumni
1,074 posts
Joined December 2012
Starry-
Around 2 weeks with the tablet I started to pass insanes (before I was getting nowhere using mouse only a week before), and I started to FC (easy) insanes around 2 weeks after that.
GoldenWolf
2,983 posts
Joined May 2012
GoldenWolf
edit: just realized I posted in the wrong topic
i shouldn't post when i'm tired
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VoidnOwO
1,256 posts
Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
This is Halloween [Insane] Second day
Banned Forever [Lesjuh] 2 months
Talent Shredder [Lesjuh] 5 months
He Has No Mittens [Furry] 6 months
Almost
2,154 posts
Joined May 2012
Almost

GoldenWolf wrote:

how you guys can adapt so quickly
Took me an entire month to get used to tablet
Took me 2 hours before I could play tablet better than mouse and I thought being left handed would make things harder :) .

OT: My first "insane" took me about a month seeing as I played little during the first few months I started.
silmarilen
5,582 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen

BRBP wrote:

This is Halloween [Insane] Second day
Banned Forever [Lesjuh] 2 months
Talent Shredder [Lesjuh] 5 months
He Has No Mittens [Furry] 6 months
you could pass banned forever [lesjuh] after 2 months? holy shit that took me more than 2 years
ethox
osu! Alumni
357 posts
Joined August 2010
ethox

silmarilen wrote:

you could pass banned forever [lesjuh] after 2 months? holy shit that took me more than 2 years
Finnish masterrace, good mate.

I could pass it mouse only in the first 6 months iirc, first B replays are in 9 months.

edit oh it was lesjuh I meant BD's diff, didn't play lesjuh's at all :p
Van246
82 posts
Joined December 2011
Van246
pretty much right after I got used to my tablet :3
dat magic
[Luanny]
8,248 posts
Joined April 2011
[Luanny]
after 2 months playing standard "seriously"
and it was 1 year after I joined this game
-Dreamy-_old
-Dreamy-_old
It took me like half a month to get to the songs at Insane difficulties they still seem pretty hard for me though :p
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
A long time. I don't think I could pass most of them even at 10k play count.
heart_old_1
11 posts
Joined July 2012
heart_old_1
It depends on the BPM of the song for me. I didn't start passing 200+ BPM songs on Insane until last week ... Which was 3 months after I got back into osu. Just keep playing songs that are too hard for you but not impossible and you will get there :3
[ Talon ]
15 posts
Joined November 2012
[ Talon ]
It took me a week,and you have to change your mouse speed and adjust to those speeds
LampaN
6 posts
Joined July 2012
LampaN
You iz doin' fine.
No idea how long it took me. Maybe, 3-4months ago was when I started getting past em?
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny

silmarilen wrote:

BRBP wrote:

This is Halloween [Insane] Second day
Banned Forever [Lesjuh] 2 months
Talent Shredder [Lesjuh] 5 months
He Has No Mittens [Furry] 6 months
you could pass banned forever [lesjuh] after 2 months? holy shit that took me more than 2 years
i can't even pass it
-Soba-
374 posts
Joined January 2011
-Soba-
about a year



I still can't play the hard ones
Disso-
45 posts
Joined November 2010
Disso-
About 3k playcount for easy insanes, 5k for med-hard insanes. I'd say in months but I randomly quit for months at a time so that's not really a good estimate.
Yakuyan
129 posts
Joined November 2011
Yakuyan
(Constant Playing)
From (I Suck) to Easy: 2 Weeks
From Easy to Normal: 1 Month


(Played Not So Very Often For A While)
From Normal to Hard: About 4 Months

I then stopped playing for months (Didn't stop playing completely but just not much...)
Then December and January 2013 I became really active.

So to my point:
Hard to Insane (not all insane songs): 7 Months

Right now though im practicing on my skill for a week now and I started to then play more and more insane songs....
But I don't save them because I'm offline :P
I do though save easy and normal songs because I play with my friends on multiplayer and they can only play easy and normal :P
VoidnOwO
1,256 posts
Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
:)
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Almost
2,154 posts
Joined May 2012
Almost

BRBP wrote:

buny wrote:

i can't even pass it
What's so hard about it besides low AR? I've always thought most people could easily pass it, but just couldn't FC.
If it makes you feel better, I haven't passed keyboard cat zone, or got even close to the second break on Scarlet Rose...
It's difficult to read the damn thing and the amount of stamina you need to clear the beginning of the map is high. Even on the off chances I manage to pass the intro, my accuracy is already in the low 70s.
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny
can't stream 170 bpm sory

i quit
Almost
2,154 posts
Joined May 2012
Almost

buny wrote:

can't stream 170 bpm sory

i quit
220 bpm actually.
silmarilen
5,582 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen

BRBP wrote:

buny wrote:

i can't even pass it
What's so hard about it besides low AR? I've always thought most people could easily pass it, but just couldn't FC.
If it makes you feel better, I haven't passed keyboard cat zone, or got even close to the second break on Scarlet Rose...
220 bpm triples :( the AR isnt even what makes it difficult, its way easier than the same map on ar9
VoidnOwO
1,256 posts
Joined August 2012
VoidnOwO
:oops:
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chelly
136 posts
Joined February 2012
chelly
Easier Insanes - Level 80 or so
Regular Insanes - Late 80s, early 90s I am here
Insane+ - Not yet
Top Tier Insane - Never

I don't really keep track of what time I start to move up difficulties, but I can remember levels pretty well. I think I started playing Easy Insanes at around 8,000+ playcount, but I'm not 100% sure. Even now I'm still practicing Regular Insanes while my other friends with a similar level are already able to play Insane with Mods (or at least a lot better than I do).
Rautataivas
1 post
Joined December 2012
Rautataivas
Started playing straight on normal/hard difficulty, currently (about 1,000 plays) passing happily easier insanes and (some) normal level insanes.
TRIYP
38 posts
Joined August 2010
TRIYP
Played on a super crappy comp with a ball mouse for a year and could barely pass hards. ( Took me 3 tries to FC the tutorial song... Not to mention I couldn't see sliders with the exception of the approach circles) After quitting for a year I could pass easy insanes in two weeks. Turned off epp and could play normal/hard insanes after two more weeks.
Rokk
133 posts
Joined September 2012
Rokk
Started casually playing somewhere in September. Just now, 5 months and 700 plays later, I passed an easier Insane difficulty for the first time. :D
MiDNiGhT2903
75 posts
Joined November 2012
MiDNiGhT2903
I took so freaking long that I don't even remember.... started in Dec 2012
Loves
446 posts
Joined December 2012
Loves
Started at the eve of 2013, playing a few hours a week and getting 350m ranked score, i can FC easy and normal insanes with respectable accuracy.
Jagermeiser
43 posts
Joined December 2012
Jagermeiser
I passed http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43812 after a week of playing. It felt even better than getting promoted from bronze league in sc2 :!:
Bonobo
32 posts
Joined December 2012
Bonobo
About 4 days for beginner insane songs like 110 bpm, then it was just a climb :p
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan
what the fuck it took me 7 months only to pass easier insanes. you silly people
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny
maybe they mean the easy insanes that are 4 stars difficulty rating

it took like 15k playcount to read ar7 for me
she_old
she_old
like 4 days, I basically started with tablet.
I had like 2.5 years of stepmania experience though.
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny

she wrote:

like 4 days, I basically started with tablet.
I had like 2.5 years of stepmania experience though.
pro
teach me to read ar10
she_old
she_old
RL speedhax

Start fighting or do some sort of fighting sport and it might help you, can't think of anything else that might help.
Miracle Lotus
Miracle Lotus
After at most 2 months.
Loves
446 posts
Joined December 2012
Loves
By easy insanes, I mean maps like rog unlimitation and normal insanes such as Wahrheit.
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny
pro
Soarezi
Soarezi
4 months to get A from gold dust hr and stuff hue
Shiningbolt
20 posts
Joined November 2012
Shiningbolt
Hoping 9 days isn't a bump.

It took me 8 days to beat the first song that I ever made it a goal to beat. It wasn't named "insane", but had an obscure name.

It took me 14 days to beat something actually named "insane" and when I did that, I beat two others on the same day.

I beat that DJ Genericname remix of "Dear You" in about 29 days. I think this was a few days after I turned off mouse accel.

I beat Gold Dust with an A after EXACTLY 2 months.

And if that's still not "insane" enough, the last landmark for me was Totsugeki! Glass no Kneesocks Hime! on Bunny Style. It took 4 months and 20ish days to pass it in general.
MMzz
Elite Mapper
3,979 posts
Joined June 2009
MMzz
The day I bought a tablet I could pass/FC the easier insanes. Too get into the harder songs that took me a month or so of getting used to my tablet and finding the perfect area.
Frostmourne
osu! Alumni
3,737 posts
Joined November 2009
Frostmourne

MMzz wrote:

The day I bought a tablet I could pass/FC the easier insanes. Too get into the harder songs that took me a month or so of getting used to my tablet and finding the perfect area.
ffinding the perfect area is almost like finding the needle in the sea to me -_-
buny
3,435 posts
Joined March 2012
buny

Frostmourne wrote:

MMzz wrote:

The day I bought a tablet I could pass/FC the easier insanes. Too get into the harder songs that took me a month or so of getting used to my tablet and finding the perfect area.
ffinding the perfect area is almost like finding the needle in the sea to me -_-
needle in the universe
Liondecker
7 posts
Joined November 2012
Liondecker
After about 2 weeks I could clear easier insanes. It took about a month for me to scrape through the harder ones, and now I can pretty much clear any insane (other than the ridiculous) with respectable accuracy.
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo

Liondecker wrote:

any insane (other than the ridiculous)
man the word "insane" really lost its meaning

what happened to papaya-shaped sliders
now that's insane
Qplayer
50 posts
Joined September 2010
Qplayer
7000+ plays and I'm finally at the point where I can get Bs and As on the maps in this thread and similar difficulty. trbl
Beeeo
8 posts
Joined September 2012
Beeeo
 
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Xirai
72 posts
Joined October 2010
Xirai
I think I needed about 5-8k plays until i got my first insane map finished without failing...Can't exactly remember, I have to admit.
But still I finished this one insane map, but failed on a few hard maps.

The map difficulty is just so different from map to map o-o"

Thou' I always am happy, when I finally manage to finish a map, that I wasn't able to finish 1 or 2 months ago :3
djneko123
2 posts
Joined March 2013
djneko123
ugh idk how to tap z faster i mean like can u gimme sum tipz
Icyteru
535 posts
Joined August 2011
Icyteru
lift weights with your fingers.
use a macro like cookiezi
thelewa
3,537 posts
Joined August 2010
thelewa
ARE YOU IMPLYING THAT COOKIEZI CHEATS
Hello Skitty
155 posts
Joined March 2013
Hello Skitty
I was passing (well, surviving), hards the first day. Insanes like a week i suppose

Improved very fast at beggining, now i feel like i dont even improve at all
YouCMe
19 posts
Joined April 2013
YouCMe
Lol 1000+ play passing Hatsune Miku - Netoge Haijin Sprechchor (insane) am i good enough??
Arcanine
181 posts
Joined May 2013
Arcanine
Around 2.5k plays if you have a good sense of gaming in osu. Time? About 1 and a half months. Just keep on practicing. ~
Platinumsj
80 posts
Joined April 2013
Platinumsj
About 2.5 months for me to beat one easy insane beatmap on standard.
The first day that I actually made a real attempt at CtB was the day that I could play insane maps.
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
>Implying I can beat insane songs
Knarf
541 posts
Joined August 2012
Knarf
Pass insane when I switched to tablet.... that is, 6 months...
sanju5
1 post
Joined April 2011
sanju5
i did insanes after 2.5k plays when i realized you should turn mouse acc off
Aka
1,777 posts
Joined January 2012
Aka
^ hahaha

well as for me - from 1 pc to 300 pc in a row :3
pet
6 posts
Joined June 2012
pet
took me about 1k-1.5k to pass insane, then almost 4.5k to get really good accuracy on said insanes, including sightreads

still terrible at streams though ( can only do 160 bpm ) but I can single tap 265 somehow
quaternary
321 posts
Joined February 2013
quaternary
It didn't take me too long (~.5k plays), but I was playing osu!droid for a long time before that. It took me around 400 or so plays to get used to a mouse and keyboard instead of a touchscreen.

I still can't pass some streamier maps because I got used to streaming with my right hand (196bpm comfortably), but on a computer I have to stream with my off hand (186bpm, and it hurts).

I got much, much better when I turned off mouse acceleration. DO THAT.
- Cloudy -
5 posts
Joined March 2012
- Cloudy -
good job :)
it will take me ages to do but I SHALL PASS!
nrl
1,402 posts
Joined October 2011
nrl
It really depends on the player. Personally, I played on and off for a few years without devoting a whole lot of time to osu! (less than 3000 plays over two years), and I could barely pass insanes, if at all. But after recently getting a tablet and racking up over a thousand more plays with it I can FC the average insane in a few retries, and I can FC easier ones on the first read if I'm really on my game. But I've been playing rhythm games and actual instruments for almost ten years, so rhythm recognition and finger dexterity were non-issues for me; it was more about learning to read beatmaps and getting my mouse/pen hand up to snuff.
Zalaria
138 posts
Joined January 2013
Zalaria
Heck if I know, like around 3 or 4 months I think. I was passing several insanes and hards, and then about 3 weeks ago I realized I can turn off mouse acceleration XD Took awhile to get use to, but it really does help ^^
Knarf
541 posts
Joined August 2012
Knarf
I only know I can turn off mouse acceleration now... That's why I thought tablet was much easier.
IBlindAngel
2 posts
Joined May 2012
IBlindAngel
Around 5 months or so. Still can't pass some of them but I keep practicing everyday x3
Nutella
100 posts
Joined August 2013
Nutella
Just did my first Insane today, which is my second day playing osu!. I might try different insane songs from the ones I've been doing to see I can pass more. I get close to the end of them, but not able to finish them yet :P. Improving every day with 309 play counts (Most of them are just doing the same maps over and over :P)
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
-GN probably could pass them on his first play of the game.
TRIYP
38 posts
Joined August 2010
TRIYP
I started playing osu back in 2010 on a pretty crappy setup and couldn't really play the game at all. Long story short I ended up getting frustrated after about 13k plays and quit for a year. The most I could manage when I quit was passing hards nomod with an A rank. After coming back I managed to start playing insanes about 2-4 weeks after coming back at approximately 16k playcount.
Alitor
2 posts
Joined May 2013
Alitor
I can pass some insane songs but not all :D I only been playing seriously for a month. Hoping to get even better later :D
vape
69 posts
Joined April 2013
vape
I played hards on my 5th day, insanes after a week and a half. I had about 2000 hours in TF2 beforehand, so I was very comfortable with my mouse. I have a natural sense of rhythm, too.
Aquamarine
222 posts
Joined February 2011
Aquamarine
2 months. 4mo's for harder more jump oriented maps. 6-12mo's for more insane-insane maps.
It seems these days people try to rush into insane maps too quickly. My advice; keep a steady pace and don't set your expectations too high.
Finales Funkeln
4 posts
Joined July 2013
Finales Funkeln

sanju5 wrote:

i did insanes after 2.5k plays when i realized you should turn mouse acc off
How can I turn the acc off?
enik
276 posts
Joined December 2011
enik
SPOILER
Take the following steps to disable Enhanced Mouse Pointer Precision:

Press Windows Logo Key+R to open the Run window.
Enter control main.cpl in the Open field.
Click OK to open the Mouse Properties window.
Click the Pointer Options tab.
Click to uncheck the Enhance Pointer Precision box.
Click OK to close the Mouse Properties window.

Finales Funkeln
4 posts
Joined July 2013
Finales Funkeln

enik wrote:

SPOILER
Take the following steps to disable Enhanced Mouse Pointer Precision:

Press Windows Logo Key+R to open the Run window.
Enter control main.cpl in the Open field.
Click OK to open the Mouse Properties window.
Click the Pointer Options tab.
Click to uncheck the Enhance Pointer Precision box.
Click OK to close the Mouse Properties window.

Thanks a lot!
Sotodashi
63 posts
Joined September 2012
Sotodashi
I never really did.
Kevojai
19 posts
Joined February 2013
Kevojai
It took me about 2k plays for my first insane map... But then i had a rage fest and returned to obtaining PP through hard mode maps. Got bored of that and took a month and a half break from osu.

I recently got back and started practicing nothing but insane maps (since they are ridiculously fun). I have been beating insane maps left and right somehow LOL. (Soon i will be fcing them hopefully)

P.S: I also started off learning insane maps by using the no fail mod. Once you get use to the speed it gets a lot easier.
Alitor
2 posts
Joined May 2013
Alitor
As long as your passionate about the game eventually you can beat any song just takes perseverance
Rio-
3,364 posts
Joined March 2013
Rio-
About 2k to 3k play, Pass with B or C.... About 4k-5k Pass with A (Sometimes)

And Also...

Alitor wrote:

As long as your passionate about the game eventually you can beat any song just takes perseverance
Nice Quote You got there.
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