All of them are viable, you just can't play them properly. Pros don't use them because there are other champs that do their job better. Viable in the pro scene =/= viable in general.Vulf wrote:
warwick, karma, heimer, sion, gangplank and poppy
All of them are viable, you just can't play them properly. Pros don't use them because there are other champs that do their job better. Viable in the pro scene =/= viable in general.Vulf wrote:
warwick, karma, heimer, sion, gangplank and poppy
His clear is below average, and his pre 6 ganks are terrible cause you have to rely on your lanes to have some sort of stun to get a successful gank (people literally walk away from you pre 6 lol). He has good sustain. His first clear leaves you with about 90%+ hp, but this is a terrible trade off with how bad his clear speed and pre 6 ganks are. Yes any cc will basically cancel his ult. He has been played in so few amount of games that the bug on his ult (that has been there for over a year now) hasn't been fixed or even acknowledged by riot yet. He also has one of the lowest mana pools in the game ( 3 Q's and your out of mana). 90% of the items he builds got nerfed in season 3 with a gold cost increase. This is already bad for a jungler who can be starved for gold easily. Lanewick is too niche to play above 1500 elo.WishfulFiction wrote:
ww buff soon(tm)
I think it's because his clear is mediocre, and pretty bad later on into the game because he has no aoe
also because his ultimate is game changing for mid game but then does nothing late game because it does nothing in team fights if your opponents have any cc
i do agree, the only thing i liked about WW is his sustain and ult (his autos are so annoying to play with)Vulf wrote:
His clear is below average, and his pre 6 ganks are terrible cause you have to rely on your lanes to have some sort of stun to get a successful gank (people literally walk away from you pre 6 lol). He has good sustain. His first clear leaves you with about 90%+ hp, but this is a terrible trade off with how bad his clear speed and pre 6 ganks are. Yes any cc will basically cancel his ult. He has been played in so few amount of games that the bug on his ult (that has been there for over a year now) hasn't been fixed or even acknowledged by riot yet. He also has one of the lowest mana pools in the game ( 3 Q's and your out of mana). 90% of the items he builds got nerfed in season 3 with a gold cost increase. This is already bad for a jungler who can be starved for gold easily. Lanewick is too niche to play above 1500 elo.WishfulFiction wrote:
ww buff soon(tm)
I think it's because his clear is mediocre, and pretty bad later on into the game because he has no aoe
also because his ultimate is game changing for mid game but then does nothing late game because it does nothing in team fights if your opponents have any cc
I think riot is going to rework him. Some of his kit is outdated ( his E for example) compared to a lot of the newer stuff that has come out since 2012.
count me in o/Agnes wrote:
Anyway, Zero and I here are likely to play some normals today. Does anybody wish to join us later? We're in NA and PBE.
His sustain is only good if he is ignored. With 3+ ignites in every game now he has a hard time doing what his kit is meant to do, and that is fine since it's a counter anyways.brikepicness wrote:
i do agree, the only thing i liked about WW is his sustain and ult (his autos are so annoying to play with)
Vulf wrote:
The new botrk will be decent on him now that it gives stats he wants. He can only use half of that item currently lol.
He wins certain match ups top. Thing with elise is her early game is way better than his and she out ranges him by a lot but when you hit 4 it's about even. He is very niche for top lane especially when 2 wards 9 pots is a thing now.
I hope the buff he gets isn't some number change cause that will probably just get him nerfed again.
I've seen very few in normal.brikepicness wrote:
True, the funny thing is that now i hardy see any WW players at all '~'
ya, i thought you were talking about fiddlesticksthose wrote:
Oh should've checked you were referring to Kass
I know a lot of people who don't like melee in most games that include combat so you are no exception, based on what I've seen through the years. =PAoriki wrote:
I do need more champs. The fact I lack on them is pretty sad. I wanna try melee's but...I'm the type who goes for range then close range
What, that's insane, lol.tyrael6192 wrote:
've seen some galio supports and he can be quite good what with the shield and the aoe slow, as well as his ult at 6
but his passive and mr are useless for bot lane, which is quite unfortunate. back in the days you'd go mid with null-magic mantle and pots, have like 70mr and 50 ap at level 1...
because MR items for tanks no longer exist except for runic bulwarkVulf wrote:
I used to play galio support often. He is very mana hungry and has a long CD on his only support ability. You'd be better off playing janna or taric for the same effect.
Galio top lane is kinda bad now with what is very popular in that lane. His mid is decent, but definitely lacking.
I am not a fan of Taric or Janna. =PVulf wrote:
I used to play galio support often. He is very mana hungry and has a long CD on his only support ability. You'd be better off playing janna or taric for the same effect.
Galio top lane is kinda bad now with what is very popular in that lane. His mid is decent, but definitely lacking.
Yeah, I used the Chalice a few times.WishfulFiction wrote:
because MR items for tanks no longer exist except for runic bulwark
spirit visage is somewhat viable, but it got nerfed
edit:
actually I'm wrong
chalice/abyssal is good
its more because of the focus on AD scaling champs in the current meta that makes galio less viable