His sustain is only good if he is ignored. With 3+ ignites in every game now he has a hard time doing what his kit is meant to do, and that is fine since it's a counter anyways.brikepicness wrote:
i do agree, the only thing i liked about WW is his sustain and ult (his autos are so annoying to play with)
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6 items WW is retarded, lol.
Frozen Fist, Warmogs, Sunfire, Blotrk(gives AS now as well), Merc's and Randuin's. He will stick to the enemy AD and won't stop until he is dead. Only problem is getting to that point. His clear is bad, his pre 6 ganks are bad and his teamfights pre 6 items is mediocre.
Frozen Fist, Warmogs, Sunfire, Blotrk(gives AS now as well), Merc's and Randuin's. He will stick to the enemy AD and won't stop until he is dead. Only problem is getting to that point. His clear is bad, his pre 6 ganks are bad and his teamfights pre 6 items is mediocre.
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Many people don't realize this but WW is a really strong pick against Elise top. Everyone else pretty much gets dumped on by solo top elise. WW can pretty much sustain all of Elise's poke with his Q early and survive lane phase enough to buy chalice on first buy. Even though his jungle is close to garbage, you can still use him pretty well in solo lanes and have some success. If WW gets decent farm then he can 1v1 Elise pretty easily. His post 6 ganks on mid lane are huge, if you have a burst AP mid, can usually burn summoners or get a kill every time your ult is up mid. Oh, and this isn't some random Bronze game lol, I've seen and played versus this first hand at Diamond V-III.
The new botrk will be decent on him now that it gives stats he wants. He can only use half of that item currently lol.
He wins certain match ups top. Thing with elise is her early game is way better than his and she out ranges him by a lot but when you hit 4 it's about even. He is very niche for top lane especially when 2 wards 9 pots is a thing now.
I hope the buff he gets isn't some number change cause that will probably just get him nerfed again.
He wins certain match ups top. Thing with elise is her early game is way better than his and she out ranges him by a lot but when you hit 4 it's about even. He is very niche for top lane especially when 2 wards 9 pots is a thing now.
I hope the buff he gets isn't some number change cause that will probably just get him nerfed again.
Vulf wrote:
The new botrk will be decent on him now that it gives stats he wants. He can only use half of that item currently lol.
He wins certain match ups top. Thing with elise is her early game is way better than his and she out ranges him by a lot but when you hit 4 it's about even. He is very niche for top lane especially when 2 wards 9 pots is a thing now.
I hope the buff he gets isn't some number change cause that will probably just get him nerfed again.
True, the funny thing is that now i hardy see any WW players at all '~'
I've seen very few in normal.brikepicness wrote:
True, the funny thing is that now i hardy see any WW players at all '~'
Saw one today and I don't even remember when before that.
He is played in less than 5% of all games and has less than a 50% win rate. The only people that are playing him are the few who main him, and the pre 30 people who want to learn the jungle cause he is one of the few junglers who can clear without runes.
the new BORK is broken.
Sadly 99% of people on PBE are bad players so they can²t pick up retarded OP items off the bat, just like preseason 3 black cleaver, it²s beyond me how that item even got through PBE.
Sadly 99% of people on PBE are bad players so they can²t pick up retarded OP items off the bat, just like preseason 3 black cleaver, it²s beyond me how that item even got through PBE.
It's only broken with how common health stacking is. If you build armor instead of health botRK is still a mediocre item. Health should have never been a go to for single resist throughout the entire game. Now that botrk will actually punish warmog stackers people will start building the proper resist to things again. I am happy with this change.
Dem Kha killed me three times. -.-
Sad we won after I bought hydra's, I just could test it for feew time, anyways, KASS OP that nida, I got dced like 4 times in the game, my internet is going so bad for 2 weeks...meh, instant dc, and 5 sec later come again
Hydra is melee only though, how does it work?
It's been a really long time since i've gotten this fed as jungle Warwick.
Any cool updates I should be aware of in this game since I quit last year?
Should read new champions and item changes for season 3... that's about it.
Also jungle changes if you play jungle.
Also jungle changes if you play jungle.
those, kassadin is melee so np about hydra xD I kill people with W and muramana, without W too, so stronk xD
Oh should've checked you were referring to Kass
ya, i thought you were talking about fiddlesticksthose wrote:
Oh should've checked you were referring to Kass
They over buffed Nasus. He has been so bad for the past 2 years that I'm okay with it. lol
try iceborn gauntlet instead of infinity edge
Try black cleaver instead of last whisper, or I am not sure about this one, but there are much better items than LW to nasus
always in my oppinion ofc
Try black cleaver instead of last whisper, or I am not sure about this one, but there are much better items than LW to nasus
always in my oppinion ofc
Went IE cuz i was so far ahead, don't need slow from gauntlet if i can 3-shot them~
i should try playing more ad, it was my most proficient role in S2 (shifted to mid)
i should try playing more ad, it was my most proficient role in S2 (shifted to mid)
Quick question regarding Galio!
I lack a support character in my pool of champions that I have bought (almost all of mine are bruisers or tanks), but I really like Galio. He feels like he can be a good enough support though (something I lack). Is he viable as a support, aside the part that his basic attack is melee?
I lack a support character in my pool of champions that I have bought (almost all of mine are bruisers or tanks), but I really like Galio. He feels like he can be a good enough support though (something I lack). Is he viable as a support, aside the part that his basic attack is melee?
I lack everyone in general. I hardly have any AD's, Tank and close range champs. All I have are AP champs, and supports. (...crap, that just sad) Someone should recommend me some champs. ( I do have some AD Champs and maybe one close range)
Melee's almost all of what I have.
I do need more champs. The fact I lack on them is pretty sad. I wanna try melee's but...I'm the type who goes for range then close range.
I know a lot of people who don't like melee in most games that include combat so you are no exception, based on what I've seen through the years. =PAoriki wrote:
I do need more champs. The fact I lack on them is pretty sad. I wanna try melee's but...I'm the type who goes for range then close range
If you wanna try melee, I'd recommend building a bruiser / tank since they don't die as easily as someone who goes for straight kills (since ranged don't usually need as much health/armor/magic resistance). So Garen, Singed or Renekton are all pretty basic bruisers.
Well, since Garen is a free champ this week, I may try him out and see my self just failed as a major tank/melee.
yeah play garen
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i've seen some galio supports and he can be quite good what with the shield and the aoe slow, as well as his ult at 6
but his passive and mr are useless for bot lane, which is quite unfortunate. back in the days you'd go mid with null-magic mantle and pots, have like 70mr and 50 ap at level 1...
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i've seen some galio supports and he can be quite good what with the shield and the aoe slow, as well as his ult at 6
but his passive and mr are useless for bot lane, which is quite unfortunate. back in the days you'd go mid with null-magic mantle and pots, have like 70mr and 50 ap at level 1...
What, that's insane, lol.tyrael6192 wrote:
've seen some galio supports and he can be quite good what with the shield and the aoe slow, as well as his ult at 6
but his passive and mr are useless for bot lane, which is quite unfortunate. back in the days you'd go mid with null-magic mantle and pots, have like 70mr and 50 ap at level 1...
I did read he can go mage but it's... odd.
I might just stick to going top and gearing him full tank.
I used to play galio support often. He is very mana hungry and has a long CD on his only support ability. You'd be better off playing janna or taric for the same effect.
Galio top lane is kinda bad now with what is very popular in that lane. His mid is decent, but definitely lacking.
Galio top lane is kinda bad now with what is very popular in that lane. His mid is decent, but definitely lacking.
because MR items for tanks no longer exist except for runic bulwarkVulf wrote:
I used to play galio support often. He is very mana hungry and has a long CD on his only support ability. You'd be better off playing janna or taric for the same effect.
Galio top lane is kinda bad now with what is very popular in that lane. His mid is decent, but definitely lacking.
spirit visage is somewhat viable, but it got nerfed
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actually I'm wrong
chalice/abyssal is good
its more because of the focus on AD scaling champs in the current meta that makes galio less viable
I am not a fan of Taric or Janna. =PVulf wrote:
I used to play galio support often. He is very mana hungry and has a long CD on his only support ability. You'd be better off playing janna or taric for the same effect.
Galio top lane is kinda bad now with what is very popular in that lane. His mid is decent, but definitely lacking.
I don't care what's popular, I more care about if it works.
Do they actually put out champions that are 100% not viable? That'd be dumb.
Yeah, I used the Chalice a few times.WishfulFiction wrote:
because MR items for tanks no longer exist except for runic bulwark
spirit visage is somewhat viable, but it got nerfed
edit:
actually I'm wrong
chalice/abyssal is good
its more because of the focus on AD scaling champs in the current meta that makes galio less viable
I haven't really found that there are more ADs than APs in the games I've played - it's been pretty even.
Also to note, I play normal, not ranked.
Eh, meta doesn't mean it always happens. If meta happened all the time, there'd be an AP and AD carry, so he'd be useful that way, no?
his early game damage is scary as hell but come lategame he's basically just a shieldbot for the carry and a flash ult engage man
Let me put it this way. Galio needs items to scale into the game which he wouldn't get as a 0 cs support (this is why karma is a bad support). In other words no it won't work most of the time because of heavy mana cost meaning he has to spend 900 extra gold to help his ADC, and he has long CD's on everything but his Q. He needs specific items to get going.
To answer another question. There are some champions in this game that aren't viable hence why some stuff get kit reworks.
Edit: The reason he isn't very good mid/top anymore is because of all the random AD bruiser and casters that got major buffs in season 3 making it hard for him to lane. It's not that he isn't viable he just fell out of favor. The whole point of his kit is to be the counter to all AP, but seeing as AP carries aren't the only thing that goes mid anymore it has dwindled him to a niche pick.
To answer another question. There are some champions in this game that aren't viable hence why some stuff get kit reworks.
Edit: The reason he isn't very good mid/top anymore is because of all the random AD bruiser and casters that got major buffs in season 3 making it hard for him to lane. It's not that he isn't viable he just fell out of favor. The whole point of his kit is to be the counter to all AP, but seeing as AP carries aren't the only thing that goes mid anymore it has dwindled him to a niche pick.
Am I the only one who wants this fucking Kayle to get removed from this game immediately
The people that I play with would 'like' everyone to fill any role, but I'm still without a support and AD carry (mostly because I don't like a large number ranged champions).
Viable, out of favour, what's the difference?
Disappoint. So I'm still without a champion with a support role then.
At least looking through the champion filter for support anyway.
He seemed pretty strong early game, yeah.tyrael6192 wrote:
his early game damage is scary as hell but come lategame he's basically just a shieldbot for the carry and a flash ult engage man
What's a kit?Vulf wrote:
Let me put it this way. Galio needs items to scale into the game which he wouldn't get as a 0 cs support (this is why karma is a bad support). In other words no it won't work most of the time because of heavy mana cost meaning he has to spend 900 extra gold to help his ADC, and he has long CD's on everything but his Q. He needs specific items to get going.
To answer another question. There are some champions in this game that aren't viable hence why some stuff get kit reworks.
Edit: The reason he isn't very good mid/top anymore is because of all the random AD bruiser and casters that got major buffs in season 3 making it hard for him to lane. It's not that he isn't viable he just fell out of favor. The whole point of his kit is to be the counter to all AP, but seeing as AP carries aren't the only thing that goes mid anymore it has dwindled him to a niche pick.
Viable, out of favour, what's the difference?
Disappoint. So I'm still without a champion with a support role then.
At least looking through the champion filter for support anyway.
What's wrong with Kayle? She's a fantastic champion. =/BrokenArrow wrote:
Am I the only one who wants this fucking Kayle to get removed from this game immediately
Kit is just the set of abilities (+specific stats) a champion has and the versatility of those abilities.
Just because people don't play something doesn't mean it isn't viable. Jungle fizz in s2 wasn't really in the public sphere at all and not many people did it, but it was scary as hell when done right... this is just an example but like you know what i mean
something can be underplayed but still really strong
Just because people don't play something doesn't mean it isn't viable. Jungle fizz in s2 wasn't really in the public sphere at all and not many people did it, but it was scary as hell when done right... this is just an example but like you know what i mean
something can be underplayed but still really strong
Kit = skill set.
Viable means they are still playable in the meta. Galio is still a good mid just not as strong as he used to be when double AP was very popular like a year and a half ago (aka fell out of favor) basically there are better options than him now. Nonviable mostly means that their skill set is so odd or outdated they will have a hard time no matter what. Take Sion for example his skill set makes zero sense whatsoever. That's why he is getting a rework. Other examples are karma, heimerdinger, and warwick. inb4 "those said champions are good!" no they aren't thats why riot is reworking them.
You can play galio support, but don't expect it to ever out perform any of the standard supports that can do what he does but way better. Heck i used to play ashe and caitlyn support awhile back lol. If your playing 5's and they don't mind you playing unconventional supports then go for it, but in solo que you'll probably end up getting banned for playing against the meta. I learned this after i got a suspension for playing roam annie like 5 games in a row.
Viable means they are still playable in the meta. Galio is still a good mid just not as strong as he used to be when double AP was very popular like a year and a half ago (aka fell out of favor) basically there are better options than him now. Nonviable mostly means that their skill set is so odd or outdated they will have a hard time no matter what. Take Sion for example his skill set makes zero sense whatsoever. That's why he is getting a rework. Other examples are karma, heimerdinger, and warwick. inb4 "those said champions are good!" no they aren't thats why riot is reworking them.
You can play galio support, but don't expect it to ever out perform any of the standard supports that can do what he does but way better. Heck i used to play ashe and caitlyn support awhile back lol. If your playing 5's and they don't mind you playing unconventional supports then go for it, but in solo que you'll probably end up getting banned for playing against the meta. I learned this after i got a suspension for playing roam annie like 5 games in a row.