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Taiko World Cup #3 (Concluded - Taiwan wins)

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Xakyrie
Like I said, I just think your demeanor and wording was slightly off. It seems like everyone misconstrued your disposition and intention. Unless your reiterate yourself with a bit more clarity and without the hinted implications, I don't think anyone will really understand what you mean.

Also I don't think you really understood what other staff members have been saying thus far, though I'm thinking if you're saying that we're not getting your point then these last 2 pages or so have just been a complete and utter misunderstanding.
HashishKabob
I'm not saying that you don't understand me. I'm saying you're all taking it too personally. I'm not attacking anyone, it just seems that everyone got offended when they're referred to as "less-than-masterfully skilled". I'm not hinting at anything either, it's a simple fact that some players are more experienced/have more skill than others. You can't deny this. To become offended, or to hide the facts, only hurts your own ego. And it's not that I don't understand what staff has said, I simply don't agree with it and stated why. Just because you feel my discussion is more or less arguing, doesn't make it so.
aabc271

HashishKabob wrote:

I'm not saying that you don't understand me. I'm saying you're all taking it too personally. I'm not attacking anyone, it just seems that everyone got offended when they're referred to as "less-than-masterfully skilled". I'm not hinting at anything either, it's a simple fact that some players are more experienced/have more skill than others. You can't deny this. To become offended, or to hide the facts, only hurts your own ego. And it's not that I don't understand what staff has said, I simply don't agree with it and stated why. Just because you feel my discussion is more or less arguing, doesn't make it so.
Well, I believe that they are not offended by the fact that some players are more skilled than the others. At least this fact does not stop players from joining twc. Just refer to the 2 previous twcs and you can notice that not only stronger teams joined twc, but also the weaker ones. If they are really offended by that, why would they bother joining twc, in which they would be defeated by stronger teams ?

As an official taiko tournament, I do agree that it has to be challenging enough for players to show their real skills, especially in later rounds where the maps will be even harder and therefore more exciting. I think this is one of the main goals that the staff are aiming at. Just look the mappool in twc1&2. You can see the maps are harder in later rounds. This is to make the competition increasing challenging so that only stronger teams can survive, thus finding the best team that deserves the champion.

But keep in mind that this is also a "world" cup. That means players from different countries with different levels of skills participate in this competition. Yes, the main goal of the competition is the same : To decide which team is the best of the best by performing better than other teams in challenging maps. But then you have to understand that a global competition should be capable of determining the best team, as well as allowing weaker teams to participate in the early stages, or even defeating slightly stronger teams if they pay enough efforts to improve their skills. This is one important element that makes a tournament interesting, because it is not only deciding who is the best overall, but also who is the best during the matches.

And when we go back to the twc case, you can see there are group stages and elimination stages. I do believe the purpose of setting up 2 stages instead of 1 is to balance the two main goals I mentioned above. Group stage allows players with different levels to participate, while elimination stage determines which team is the best. This system also allows weaker teams to participate in group stages in which the maps are easier. If they pay enough efforts, they may just defeat stronger teams and go into elimination stage. This is why a competition is exciting. However, this does not defeat the purpose of determinating the best team. Because it is actually "pleasing the stronger teams" as you said in some posts before, since only stronger teams can go through all the elimination stages and become the champion.

I know this post could be too lengthy, but I hope you understand that having easier maps at group stages is to allow different levels of players to join. As twc can still decide which team is the best through elimination stages, I am actually supportive towards this system.
Acrith
Sorry I'll interrupt your discussion, that not really bothers me.

TWC Statistics are FROM now - UP TO DATE, but

- ATTENTION!
I need a multiplayer history link from match: China A vs Japan B!
Everyone who was watching that, or anything - search in your browser for this, it would be really helpful.

WITHOUT IT, WE CAN HAVE SOME PROBLEMS LATER. SO I REALLY EXPECT SOME HELP FROM YOU GUYS!


Also, some of Statistics sheets change log:
- updated "Group Stage Overview"
- updated "Map Statistics"
- updated "Group Stage: Schedule" for previous week.
- Changed layout of "Round 1-1; Round 1-2; Round 1-3" sheets
- updated all infos in "Round 1-2" card, except one match
- Added "Group & Teams Statistics", it's worth to look at it, REALLY!

I spent on it whole of night, so... That's all atm.
Xakyrie
^This guy can work magic with that document.

Anyways, I also have an update! Staff and players, please check the schedule! For players, if you need any last minute changes with good reason please contact me as soon as possible. For staff, please send me your times so they can be edited into the schedule.
Niko-nyan
got problem on schedule
Round 1-2 change to Round 1-3 because it's already Round 1-3
Flanster

Frans Niko wrote:

got problem on schedule
Round 1-2 change to Round 1-3 because it's already Round 1-3
Fixed.
Yowane _ Haku
Nashmun is very handsome man XD
Cyclohexane
That he is.
Nashmun

Yowane _ Haku wrote:

Nashmun is very handsome man XD
Huh o.o *Nashmun hides*

Also, I find the teams order in statistic sheet disturbing, maybe you should put #1 of each group at the top and so on ? (Great job anyway Acrith <3 )
AnFace
Oh man it's time to hit on Nashmun
;)
Acrith

Nashmun wrote:

Yowane _ Haku wrote:

Nashmun is very handsome man XD
Huh o.o *Nashmun hides*

Also, I find the teams order in statistic sheet disturbing, maybe you should put #1 of each group at the top and so on ? (Great job anyway Acrith <3 )
I first want to end all matches. Till now I still lack that mp link, _Gezo_ don't answer me, also can't catch Matthewhln...

@Edit:

So I'm done now with all matches, even with China A vs Japan B, only with screenshots (I still need from someone mp link!). Also:

- Added "Simple Stages Overview", for Loctav personal order (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... Y0E#gid=26).

@Edit2:

FOUND FINALLY THIS LINK! By manually searching about 8k matches one by one. Thanks also to Matthew for it. Also:

- Changed layout of Scheduling in stats sheet.
- Added some extra info in map stats.
Makar
I just want to say that you are amazing Acrith for putting so much work into the statistics sheet
Topic Starter
Loctav

Makar wrote:

I just want to say that you are amazing Acrith for putting so much work into the statistics sheet
OnosakiHito
Great sheet Acrith, really.
Kuro

It's official... We are required to have a cute song as a DT pick in every Mappool... +1

inb4 Ozzy sings again :D
AnFace

Kuro wrote:


It's official... We are required to have a cute song as a DT pick in every Mappool... +1

inb4 Ozzy sings again :D

RIP Group Stage 1-2
Topic Starter
Loctav
If he sings again, he won't comment anymore. Just saying.
Flanster

Group Stage 1-3: Korea vs Thailand
Match history:
#3 TWC Korea vs Thailand
1st Round
1 Korea vs Thailand 0

2nd Round
2 Korea vs Thailand 0

3rd Round
3 Korea vs Thailand 0

4th Round
4 Korea vs Thailand 0

KOREA wins the match!
Luna
ggwp
Japan OP :D
Flanster
Flanster

Group Stage 1-3: China A vs Germany A
Match history:
#3 TWC China A vs Germany A
benisakura
Congratulations to France! 恭喜法國勝出!
It's a interesting game, and I expect more SS score in your next match:)

I'm still waiting for Acrith to sing kappa XD
Kappaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
How about sing on twitch :D
Acrith
I can't sing, cuz Loctav will fire me D:
Nashmun
恭喜澳门 'Was a fun match :3

EDIT : In case of Acrith lose it once again, here is the mp link : http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6199933
Cyclohexane

benisakura wrote:

Congratulations to France! 恭喜法國勝出!
It's a interesting game, and I expect more SS score in your next match:)

I'm still waiting for Acrith to sing kappa XD
Kappaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
How about sing on twitch :D
not for free, sorry
Haruka_old

Lolicore Flandre wrote:

Damn, the way LoliFlan sets up the results in this thread is sexy.
I want him to ref our match too! ;w;
Xakyrie

Group Stage - Taiwan A vs Philippines
Match history:
#3 TWC Taiwan A vs Philippines
Xakyrie

Group Stage - Canada A vs Indonesia
Match history:
#3 TWC Canada A vs Indonesia

That is all for now!

Makar
yay canada
totoco
Nicely done, Canada :D
Flanster

Haruka wrote:

Lolicore Flandre wrote:

Damn, the way LoliFlan sets up the results in this thread is sexy.
I want him to ref our match too! ;w;
Sadly I couldn't ;w;
Xakyrie
As if I wasn't a good replacement... :<
EZENA_old
I don't want to play TWC at a fast food restaurant next time lol
Damn the time was just the CWHK35 wwww (Comic World Hong Kong 35)




What have I done?! wwww
Play OSU at Video Game Center
Play OSU at Yoshinoya
Play OSU at Singapore Airlines
Play OSU at Maxims Fast Food
Flanster
LOL TWC AT FOOD RESSU
I admire your dedication EZENA!


Group Stage 1-3: Taiwan B vs Japan B
Match history:
#3 TWC Taiwan B vs Japan B
Acrith

EZENA wrote:

I don't want to play TWC at a fast food restaurant next time lol
Damn the time was just the CWHK35 wwww (Comic World Hong Kong 35)




What have I done?! wwww
Play OSU at Video Game Center
Play OSU at Yoshinoya
Play OSU at Singapore Airlines
Play OSU at Maxims Fast Food
LOOK! I'M ON LAST SLOT! YAAAAY! D:

So guys - we're after 14 matches out of 16. I'm going to update stats soon, also post results as soon as I can. Atm, you need to look at mp links, and simple stage overview to know "what's going on" -> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... Y0E#gid=26

https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6177002 - Hong Kong A vs Chile A - HK A wins by 4:0
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6196743 - Korea vs Thailand - Korea wins by 4:0
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6197851 - Germany B vs Japan A - Japan A wins by 0:4
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6198500 - Malaysia vs Italy-Netherlands - Malaysia win by 4:2
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6199933 - France vs Macau - France wins by 4:0
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6200596 - China A vs Germany A - Germany A wins by 0:4
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6201782 - Spain vs Denmark-Norway - Denmark-Norway wins by 0:4
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6202658 - Russia vs El Salvador-Venezuela - Russia wins by 4:0
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6208641 - Argentina vs United States A - United States A wins by 0:4
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6209138 - United States B vs Hong Kong B - Hong Kong B wins by 3:4
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6210362 - Taiwan A vs Philippines - Taiwan A wins by 4:0
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6211159 - Canada A vs Indonesia - Canada A wins by 4:1
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6216083 - Taiwan B vs Japan B - Japan B wins by 2:4
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/6217351 - Ukraine vs China B - China B wins by 0:4
[TaikoTori]
Acrith, you made a mistake there. It is Japan A who won 4:0, not us.
Xakyrie

EZENA wrote:

I don't want to play TWC at a fast food restaurant next time lol
Damn the time was just the CWHK35 wwww (Comic World Hong Kong 35)




What have I done?! wwww
Play OSU at Video Game Center
Play OSU at Yoshinoya
Play OSU at Singapore Airlines
Play OSU at Maxims Fast Food
EZENA, you have such amazing dedication D:
You're also clearly the traveling taiko player, since you've played in different destinations during TWC wwww
Acrith
@FreedomofBirds - Sorry for this mistake :)

@edit - Map statistics for Round 1-3 are up-to-date from now.
mliencheng
Btw in Group A: USA B, Group F: United States A :?


Next Week Qualification Stage ?

USA A vs. USA B
Canada A vs. Canada B
Japan A vs. Japan B
Taiwan A vs. Taiwan B

_(-ω-」 ∠)_
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