Chewin wrote:

[Saten]

02:09:801 (1,2,3,4) - This pattern with these jumps is really confusing to play. At least I got this problem test playing the map.
03:01:229 (3,4) - If you see these 2 sliders in test mode the (4) isn't overlapped as it should with (3)'s end Yeah I know, did something different
03:03:747 (2) - You can avoid this circle, really. Remove it sure
03:07:872 (3) - Reduce this slider by 1/2? It should end on the long white tick 03:08:086 but I hear a solid beat on the red tick, and re-arranging that part will be hell D:
Crazy map s:

[Nyaten]

BPM 280 AR 10? No, just no. It's impossible. Reduce it till 9 :\ AR 9 doesn't fit this imo, and this isn't impossible D:
00:27:586 (3) - Unreadable slider. I don't think it's unreadable as I didn't make a complete overlap
00:32:086 (3) - New combo to make it rankable sure ok
00:56:944 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Why so huge jumps çç because I like these
00:58:658 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ ^
Overmapped ._.

Chewin wrote:

Hi miikyuu, mod request from my modding queue here :3

[General]

I'd use the same combo colours to all diffs saten and nyaten are guest diffs. so it should be fine as it is (its up for saten to decide)

[Level 1]

00:38:086 (3) - Finish here would would emphasize the cymbals in the song fixed
00:39:801 (1) - ^ ^
00:41:515 (2) - ^ ^
00:47:086 (3) - ^ ^
01:31:229 (1) - ^ ^
01:38:086 (3) - ^ ^
02:10:658 (3) - ^ on repeat too ^
02:35:944 (3) - I'd move this slider 2/2 later using new combo and removing it from 02:37:229 (1): fixed

03:16:658 (4) - New combo fixed
03:39:801 (1) - This spinner should end on 03:41:301 because it's following the vocal oh, im following the background chorus part xD
Fine map, some suggestions about hitsonds

[Level 6]

I think this AR is too low. Increase it by 1 okay o.o..
About hitsounds the same of Level 1 diff ;3 ok~
00:15:586 (1) - You are following the vocal's rhythm so remove new combo here and add it on 00:14:729 (4) kk
00:43:229 (1,2) - ^ ill think about this
01:23:836 Since the 01:23:944 (5) should be snapped 1/4 earlier to fit the vocal sound what about to add a circle to make a triple here? hm im not entirely sure, 01:23:836 - sounds a bit silent so i didnt rly consider a triplet there ><
01:52:872 (5) - New combo fixed
02:31:229 (3) - Improve this curve to have a better blanket here (in the code I have fixed the next slider too): thanks a lot for the code ><!

SPOILER

124,316,151229,2,0,B|68:248|124:144|224:176,1,220
256,260,151872,1,8
305,171,152086,2,0,B|388:144|444:248|388:316,2,220,0|8|4

02:46:229 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make this pattern symmetric: fixed ^^

SPOILER

328,220,166229,5,0
340,120,166444,1,0
256,68,166658,1,0
172,120,166872,1,4
184,220,167086,1,0
251,288,167301,2,0,B|303:328|371:316,2,110,0|4|0

02:53:515 (3,4,5) - I don't like this pattern because the asymmetric slider 02:53:515 (3) breaks the map's flow. I can suggest you something like this: fixed

SPOILER

128,108,173515,2,0,B|144:152|116:192|116:192|140:228|128:280,2,176,4|10|0
48,144,174586,2,0,B|24:188|48:244,1,88
36,328,175015,1,0

02:58:229 (1) - This spacing is enough confusing, you should move it further from 02:56:944 (3)'s end never rly had trouble here, but i guess ill get more opinions on this

[Origin]

00:37:658 (5) - Remove a repeat from here okay
01:44:301 (4) - Make this blanket more flowing, it's ugly that shapes kind of there on purpose
02:34:658 (1) - You should use this rhythm instead, you actual one doesn't fit the song: i like it , thanks

02:36:372 (1) - Reduce this slider by 1/2 and add a circle on 02:36:694 to fill the empty. The rhythm flows better ok ill try..
03:05:836 (2) - Same of 01:44:301 (4) im going to keep this one actually b/c if i change all patterns like above, the max. score would go above 20 mil lol
03:19:229 (5) - New combo fixed

That's it, good luck (:

Chewin wrote:

Hi miikyuu, mod request from my modding queue here :3

[Level 3]

Add the same finishes I suggested you above if you liked it :3
00:49:229 (4) - New combo? okay
01:05:515 (3) - Reduce this slider by 1/2 to fit the vocal like you did for 01:04:658 (2) fine
01:10:658 (5) - New combo fixed
01:38:086 (5) - ^ ^
01:56:086 (4) - ^ ^
02:03:801 (3) - Same of 01:05:515 (3) keep since i sort of want to keep a symmetrical appearance with next red combo
02:08:944 (1) - Mh I don't like this slider's shape D: What about to make something like this? I think it'd flow better

SPOILER

276,204,128944,6,0,B|360:220|372:300|372:300|440:344|492:320|496:268,2,280.000002384186,4|0|4
404,160,131086,2,0,B|348:104|268:104,1,140.000001192093
168,80,131944,1,0

02:15:801 (5) - New combo and.. you could improve this slider, it's ugly like it is now imho. ok fixed

SPOILER

332,148,135801,6,0,B|300:88|204:88|172:148,2,192.500001639128,4|0|0

03:22:658 (5) - New combo okay
03:35:944 (4) - x:440 y:240 to have a better blanket
03:41:515 (1,2) - These 2 circles should be moved 1/4 earlier to fit the vocal hm, seems fine

spboxer3 wrote:

Saten

• 
  
  mapping
  (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  

1. 00:20:301 (6,4) - those should be stack. but don't forget change 00:22:015 (6) - too
2. 01:05:194 (1,2,3,4) - [confuse rhythm] It's too cover by 01:04:658 (1) - and you used 1/6 rhythm (note) here. maybe use 1/6 slider will be fine. I moved it somewhere else to avoid confusion
   
   
3. 02:38:944 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - a kinda awkward stream shape for me. ((looks it's crooked shape. It's U shaped, i don't know how to make it better ;w;
   
   
4. 03:41:515 (1) - spinner it's too long~ perhaps end at 03:42:801 - will be better. Ended is at 03:44:086

overmapped... ;w;

Nyaten

• 
  
  mapping
  (These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)
  

1. 03:41:515 (1) - spinner it's too long~ perhaps end at 03:42:801 - will be better. ((same as Saten as Nyaten

still overmapped lol'd

spboxer3 wrote:

給跪 居然是看的懂中文的... 我之前還mod過...所以這算是recheck嗎lol lol

※ Notice

red is unrankable issue.
blue is recommended to fix.
Black is just suggestion.

general

• 
  Settings
  (For the setting/general issue.)
  

1. fine~

Level 1

• 
  Settings
  (For the setting. like Song Setup/timing or break time~)
  

1. duplicated timeline:
   02:58:658 - fixed

mapping
(These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

1. 00:22:658 (1) - arc (curve) issue, it's not a good shape, make it more smooth flattened them out
   
   
2. 00:24:372 (2) - ^ fixed
   
   
3. 03:36:372 (1,2) - not a symmetrical pattern. you can used "Flip Horizontal" to check it fixed i think

雖然看起來是沒有問題的mapset 但是妳用了許多的直線note排法 e.g:00:55:229 (2,3,1) - 01:00:372 (1,2,3) - etc. 會導致map看起來比較死板 而且有些pattern有圖形的弧度問題 e.g:01:31:229 (1,2) - 你應該是想把這個pattern排成直線的 這些小細節需要自己注意一下...

Level 6

• 
  
  Overlaps
  (Some overlaps of notes/sliders in this diff don't look good. Here is a list of beats that overlap each other could space them farther apart. yep. It's just suggest and nazi. you can ignore this par)
  

1. 00:19:872 (2,4,5) - ok made spacing neater

Hitsound
(For my listened. Just some suggest for the hitsound.)

1. 01:12:372 (1) - you should add finish at this spinner (( level 1,level 3 has added finish at this spinner. why don't you add it too? oops i forgot xD
   
   
2. 03:42:158 - same as Level 3 fixed

mapping
(These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

1. 00:22:229 (1) - last node move to x456,y220? it's make more pretty shape. sure
   
   
2. 01:44:515 (1) - unfit NC imo. It isn't on the phase also haven't slider velocity change. deleted
   
   
3. 02:15:801 (1) - Umm... not symmetrical slider shape? ok~I will give you this code fixed thanks!!
   
   code

   184,49,135801,6,0,B|97:96|89:192|121:303|256:358|390:303|422:192|414:96|327:49,1,660

Origin

• 
  
  Hitsound
  (For my listened. Just some suggest for the hitsound.)
  

1. 02:38:944 (1) - finish ((end for the sentence okay
2. 03:42:158 - same as Level 3okay

mapping
(These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

1. 00:05:515 (2,3) - (?) I just confuse about this... the voice it's start at 00:05:461 - and end at 00:05:676 - the drum start at 00:05:515 - and end 00:05:729 - those are bundle. you should choose one and use it. It's supposed to follow vocals, but I don't think anybody will notice the subtle difference when playing..?
   
   
2. 01:25:444 (5) - looks awkward slider shape. you can make the layout better~ okay
   
   
3. 01:53:301 (8,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 說實話這個pattern讓我有些無法理解 因為 就斷句而言01:54:372 - 才是斷句的地方 可是你卻在01:53:515 - 就開始使用對稱跳 而且跨小節使用 而且 01:55:658 (3,4) - 使用slider的時機比較微妙 就會變成10個散拍(note)的pattern. 然而一般來說我們再下節奏是4個一拍的 所以建議對稱跳從01:54:372 - 開始放就好了okay fixed, please check if it's okay

well~ good luck

spboxer3 wrote:

Level 3

• 
  Settings
  (For the setting. like Song Setup/timing or break time~)
  

1. duplicated timeline:
   02:58:658 - Fixed

Hitsound
(For my listened. Just some suggest for the hitsound.)

1. 03:42:158 - use 30% vol to make it blend ((well~ the mute slider end it's unrankable :/Fixed

mapping
(These are about your patterns.Mostly for the suggest, Just some unrankable issue I will use red color to highlight it.)

1. 00:28:551 (4) - It's a fit rhythm~ but it's too hard in "Normal" style. perhaps move it to 00:28:658 - it's a better solution Fixed, made a longer slider
   
   
2. 02:08:944 (1) - move to x344,y244? try to make symmetrical spacing for 02:08:515 (4) - Fixed

Baka Tenshi wrote:

I and Saten were talking about some stuff in Saten and Nyaten diffs, but however, wanted to take a look at Origin, and while I was looking through the map...
00:05:515 (2,3) - Unsnapped slider ends! They're on a blue tick! That's what I found at the first part, and that's the thing I wanted to point out.
Sorry but I'm only familiar with Saten and Nyaten diffs...orz Anyway, good luck there. If only I had kudos...

Stefan wrote:

Let me spam with Stars too.

Saten wrote:

One question meii

Why arent you using the preview on the chorus instead?
Have been wondering that for quite some time now lol

Somewhere 1/1 2/1 before it start would be nice otherwise~

Byakugan249 wrote:

lol 2 bubbles and 1 rank is all it takes i guess i need to read the rules more often >< wait wut

Bold: Unrankable/must fix.
Red: You should fix it, but it's up to you.
Italic: Suggestion. Feel free to ignore this if you don't like it.
Blue: Comment. I'll give you my opinion, advice, or if i'm curious about something.

[General]
CLEAR~!

[Level 1]
before i get to the map, increase the spacing to 0.8 and fix the spacing. the overlaps and blankets make the diff look bad during gameplay.
00:22:658 (1) - unstack this. beginners might find something like this hard since the bpm is high and the hitburst is covering the slider in this part. fixed
00:25:658 (1) - replace this for a circle at the downbeat(big white tick). it'll be consistent with the blue pattern in this part since there's a gap in the middle of it. hm..no ty sry ;;
01:00:372 (1) - add a finish at the end because there are cymbals at that part and it'll emphasize that part in the cymbals during gameplay. fixed
01:38:086 (3) - make this a NC. it'll be consistent with the previous pattern at the 1st verse since that note is a NC. fixed
01:46:658 (3) - i can hear the cymbals here, so add a finish at the beginning to emphasize it. fixed
01:56:944 (3) - and here. same reason as 01:38:086 about the consistency. fixed
02:32:944 (1,2) - same as 01:56:944, but at the end. fixed
03:00:372 (3) - same as 01:56:944. fixed
03:20:944 (3) - same as above, but to go along with the vocals for this. fixed

[Level 3]
00:12:372 (1,2,3,4) - the flow in this pattern doesn't fit with the song IMO. i suggest making these curved slider so that it'll flow smoother with the song during gameplay. you can use the code below if you want. fixed ty for code

SPOILER

332,156,12372,6,0,B|360:128|360:92,2,70.0000005960464,4|8|0
248,80,13229,2,0,B|192:44|108:40,1,140.000001192093
44,128,14086,2,0,B|24:168|44:208,2,70.0000005960464,0|8|0
152,164,14944,2,0,B|208:204|240:272,1,140.000001192093

00:27:801 (3) - i can hear the cymbals at the beginning of this slider, so add a finish at the beginning for emphasis, also make this slider look like (2) for a smoother transition during gameplay. added the finish but kept the slider b/c she want it to flow with 4
01:29:944 (3) -
01:31:658 (5) - NC here. this is where the lyrics change in this part of the song. fixed
01:41:944 (1) - if you can make this slider look like the previous once, the transition would look smoother during gameplay IMO. changed that previous slider instead
02:58:658 (1,2,3,4) - can you come up with another pattern without making the slider overlap each other? this might bother other players when they play this during gameplay IMO. think its fine, it's still pretty clear to look at
03:00:372 (3,4) - this is the only pattern in which 1/4 of the circle is being covered and that breaks the flow in this part of the song. still looks readable though, but will check it through again..
03:10:658 (3) - add a finish at the beginning. you can hear the cymbals in this part of the song. fixed
03:15:801 (1) - try to make these parallel by adjusting (1) so that the gap between (3,1) is evened out. its fine
03:20:944 (3) - same as 03:10:658. ^
03:22:658 (1) - can you make this wave slider look smoother? something like this should flow smoother to the map during gameplay IMO. fixed
03:32:944 (1,2,3,4) - can you re-arrange this pattern into a diamond? same reason as above about the flow, and it should look like this. understood but will like to keep for now, ty for code

SPOILER

248,236,212944,6,0,B|176:200|176:200|116:212,2,140.000001192093,4|0|0
304,140,214229,1,0
360,236,214658,2,0,B|432:200|432:200|492:212,2,140.000001192093,0|0|0
304,336,215944,1,0

[Level 6]
00:40:229 (4) - this repeat slider breaks the flow in the whole song. in the previous patterns, there were 1/1 slider and that made the flow continue, but this one breaks it and the mood of the song as well once the ball hits the repeat slider. reduce this slider by 1/2, in which the repeat slider end at the red tick and add a circle so that the flow will continue during gameplay. id like to keep it , sry
01:08:944 (8) - maybe a finish at the beginning for emphasis in the instrumental? sure, fixed
01:28:551 (3) - how about aligning this note like this so that the shape shows that it's a plus sign? i also think that doing this looks creative and flows a bit better during gameplay. i think i want to keep spacing there..
01:32:944 (5) - i can hear the cymbals here, so add a finish at the beginning of this slider. fixed
01:37:658 (8) - oh my so many points o_o. you can make a v-shaped slider by just using 5 points like this. fixed
01:46:229 (5) - for this one, you need 4 points to make a smoother curved slider, or you can make a straight slider so that the gap looks parallel during gameplay. fixed
01:52:872 (5) - NC here. this is where the lyrics "technically" change in the song. it's at the end of (4), but i think it'd be better here since the lyrics change at the next note and it's this one. fixed
02:07:229 (4) - same as 01:32:944. fixed
02:09:801 (3) - maybe like this for a smoother transition to the next note? fixed
02:17:515 (1) - same as 01:32:944, but on the spinner. sure
02:35:515 (6) - remove the finish at the repeat. there are no cymbals played in this part of the song. fixed
02:59:515 (4,5) - same as above, but add the finish at the beginning since there are cymbals being played in this part. fixed
03:03:265 (5) - same as 02:09:801. no because i need 6 to make a clear curve around it xD

[Origin]
00:05:515 (2) - NC here. the vocals loop again in this part. fixed
00:07:658 (2) - stack the end together so that it'd be consistent with the 1st combo. no change
00:17:301 (5) - nazi* go 1 grid right at the end point so that the gap looks parallel during gameplay[i] fixed
00:19:444 (2) - [i]ik you can do a better wave slider than this. right now the flow plays awkwardly during gameplay. ok fixed i guess
01:08:944 (1,2,3) - stack these notes perfectly. during gameplay, the transition plays oddly in this part IMO. fixed
01:26:944 (3) - [i]move this slider back 1/2 and add a circ;le so that it'd be consistent with the previous combos in this part of the song. im fine with how it is
01:44:301 (4) - make this slider flow smoother. the flow as it stands plays oddly and it made me feel uncomfortable during gameplay IMO. not here in particular, idk how to explain, its a wierder shape to empasize the 2 violin notes that appear
01:48:586 (2,3) - move this up a bit because that overlap on the red (3) bothers me and it might bother other people during gameplay. its fine lol
02:01:872 (4) - straighten this slider like the last 3 for a smoother transition during gameplay. the flow plays oddly during gameplay IMO. fixed
02:02:086 (5) - same as 00:05:515, but the lyrics change in this part of the song fixed
02:12:372 (5,6) - make these 2 sliders the same because the transition plays oddly and unfitting for other players during gameplay IMO fixed
02:27:372 (5) - space out this note to not only avoid the overlap, but to make the transition smoother during gameplay i just remapped that section
02:27:586 (6) - you can align this to (4) if you follow the suggestion above. same reason as above ^
03:00:158 (3) - stack this at the end of the previous slider so that it'd be consistent with the previous pattern during gameplay im good
03:05:836 (2) - same as 01:44:301 fixed
03:10:658 (6) - make this slider look like (5) for a smoother transition during gameplay fixed
03:14:408 (2) - same as 03:00:158 no change


and that's all.

wcx19911123 wrote:

rawr
[Saten]
00:32:301 (4) - I suggest not completely stack under (1), move it 1 gird out, better to read the pattern moved it
00:56:729 - here in music is 1/2, I suggest not use 1/3 here yeah this is 1/2, fixed
01:03:586 - ^, there're many same patterns in this diff, I can't point them all out from now on. if you want to fix them plz fix all same patterns this is actually 1/3 though

[Nyaten]
01:08:301 (2,3) - why not ctrl+g on them, flow better you're right! fixed
02:04:765 (2,3,1,2,3) - try ctrl+h? add a jump at 02:05:515 - fit the song better imo done
02:11:944 - streams are all 1/4 in this diff, why only here 1/3? better change to 1/4 imo in this part of the song, I use 1/3 in all chorus sections with a bit more spacing than the other streams. except in this part 03:05:086 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
02:22:015 (2,3) - ctrl+g? done
03:18:801 - same as before like I mentioned before
03:39:372 - ^ ^
03:41:301 (5) - put it in the middle? moved

let me know when this is done
osu! need more AR10 \:D/ \:D/

wcx19911123 wrote:

people post this map many times to my queue
let's get this done then

[General]
fine

[Level 1]
01:06:372 (2) - move this note to 01:06:158 - ? fit vocal here is better imo fixed
02:14:086 (3) - it's not symmetrical now, fix plz fixed i hope
02:48:372 (2) - meke it blanket (3)? looks better fixed
03:20:086 (2,3) - make (2) and (3)'s starting symmetrical? fixed

[Level 6]
00:50:729 (7,8,9) - make then symmetrical? fixed
01:12:372 - end the first spinner at here, and the second one start at 01:12:426 - , fit the song much better imo fixed
01:50:301 (6,1,2) - make them symmetrical better plz fixed
01:56:086 (6,7) - ^, also this ones should blanket better fixed

[Origin]
00:58:122 (4) - this one can blanket better fixed
02:04:765 - add a note here? sound better fixed

let me know when this is done
osu! need more AR10 \:D/ <3

wcx19911123 wrote:

people post this map many times to my queue
let's get this done then


[Level 3]
01:09:801 (4) - blanket (3)'s ending better?
02:15:801 (1) - make it symmetrical?

LunarSakuya wrote:

holy shitballs

wcx19911123 wrote:

rechecked and all fine now
ENHIXX :3

LunarSakuya wrote:

holy shitballs

1. 02:12:372 (1,2,3) - Make spacing consistent.

• 
  Increase HP and OD by 1? It fits the map better.

1. 00:39:158 (x) - Add a note as well as 00:25:444 (4).
2. 00:42:586 (x) - ^
3. 01:47:622 (x) - here and 01:47:729, why don't you add notes?
4. 02:51:801 (1) - A whistle sounds a bit noisy at the top of slider. Just remove?
5. 03:11:944 (1) - Remove a new combo.

1. 00:28:872 (x) - Let's add a note here too! I guess you followed the vocal but the guitar fits more.
2. 00:42:586 (x) - ^
3. 01:23:944 (5) - Move futher a bit from (4), so gameplay will get better.
4. 01:30:586 (x) - Same as 00:28:872.
5. 01:34:015 (x) - ^
6. 01:47:408 (7,8) - Hum...this seems kinda confusing. Use normal shape for (7) please.
7. 02:16:229 (3,4,5,6) - It's better not to stack a quad.
8. 02:39:854 (x) - Remove an unnecessary break.
9. 03:23:729 (5) - Spacing is a bit too close. You don't need to use the same spacing as you used on stream here. It also looks something weird when playing. Oh, I found a good one at 00:22:015 (3)!
10. 03:38:836 (3) - ^

• 
  To be honest, the note placement looks kinda random if compared with your other maps. Anyway still good though

1. 00:14:944 (5,6) - I know you put (5) at the center of (3,4), but the spaces between (4,5), and (6,1) are a bit too close so gameplay isn't that good here imo(other spacings you use around here are further as compared this). How about moving them above by some grids?
2. 00:35:729 (6,7) - As the similar reason as above, move them futher a bit or change them into a slider? I think a slider should be prefered to circles because there is a BPM280 stream next
3. 02:51:372 (1,2) - Good balanced noteplacement with 02:50:086 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2). However I recommend you to reduce spacing between them, so it makes easier to read the next SV change.
4. 03:04:551 (3) - I feel this note doesn't fit the music seriously. Just remove?
5. 03:39:586 (1,2,3,4) - Oh looks inconsistent :/

• 
  Oh...very difficult map although there is an enough difficult map(Saten) already...
  Frankly, I don't see the difference between Saten and Nyaten(difficulty of pattern and note placement, and something look similar). Just they seem to have different AR for me...
  A map is really good and creative. But...uum,,,

Suzully wrote:

[Saten]

• 
  To be honest, the note placement looks kinda random if compared with your other maps. Anyway still good though Slider-to-Slider jumps are random. This may be a habit of mine on high bpm songs when not making extremely difficult maps

1. 00:14:944 (5,6) - I know you put (5) at the center of (3,4), but the spaces between (4,5), and (6,1) are a bit too close so gameplay isn't that good here imo(other spacings you use around here are further as compared this). How about moving them above by some grids? moved up a bit
2. 00:35:729 (6,7) - As the similar reason as above, move them futher a bit or change them into a slider? I think a slider should be prefered to circles because there is a BPM280 stream next I guess you're right
3. 02:51:372 (1,2) - Good balanced noteplacement with 02:50:086 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2). However I recommend you to reduce spacing between them, so it makes easier to read the next SV change. Not sure about this, moving them closer to each-other will make it look like 1/2 imo
4. 03:04:551 (3) - I feel this note doesn't fit the music seriously. Just remove? I hear a beat there so I don't really wanna remove it
5. 03:39:586 (1,2,3,4) - Oh looks inconsistent :/ you mean the stream? fixed I think

[Nyaten]

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  Oh...very difficult map although there is an enough difficult map(Saten) already...
  Frankly, I don't see the difference between Saten and Nyaten(difficulty of pattern and note placement, and something look similar). Just they seem to have different AR for me...
  A map is really good and creative. But...uum,,, There are: Higher Slider Velocity, higher spacing, less sliders, more hitcircles, harsher jumps, less 1/3 streams (Saten only has 1/3 streams) and higher flow
  So therefore AR 10

It's supposed to be challenging

Suzully wrote:

Hello.

[Level1]

1. 02:12:372 (1,2,3) - Make spacing consistent. fixed

[Level6]

1. 00:39:158 (x) - Add a note as well as 00:25:444 (4). fixed
2. 00:42:586 (x) - ^ fixed
3. 01:47:622 (x) - here and 01:47:729, why don't you add notes? fixed
4. 02:51:801 (1) - A whistle sounds a bit noisy at the top of slider. Just remove? fixed
5. 03:11:944 (1) - Remove a new combo.fixed

[Origin]

1. 00:28:872 (x) - Let's add a note here too! I guess you followed the vocal but the guitar fits more. fixed
2. 00:42:586 (x) - ^ fixed
3. 01:23:944 (5) - Move futher a bit from (4), so gameplay will get better. fixed
4. 01:30:586 (x) - Same as 00:28:872. fixed
5. 01:34:015 (x) - ^ i actually want to keep the sudden silent pause at this part ><
6. 01:47:408 (7,8) - Hum...this seems kinda confusing. Use normal shape for (7) please. fine x.x
7. 02:16:229 (3,4,5,6) - It's better not to stack a quad. fixed, as well as a few notes around it
8. 02:39:854 (x) - Remove an unnecessary break. ok :<
9. 03:23:729 (5) - Spacing is a bit too close. You don't need to use the same spacing as you used on stream here. It also looks something weird when playing. Oh, I found a good one at 00:22:015 (3)! fixed ^^
10. 03:38:836 (3) - ^ ^

Let me know after you've done fix :3

Suzully wrote:

Hello.


[Level3]

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  Increase HP and OD by 1? It fits the map better.

Saten wrote:

AR 9 doesn't fit this at all imo, looks so crowdy most of the time due to the speed.

Saten wrote:

Don't chicken out just because it's AR 10 :/

Makar wrote:

basically Nyaten is deserving of AR10 because of density

Charles445 wrote:

I have checked Nyaten and Saten. Both are readable but I can only play through Saten properly.
I can't tell by myself if Nyaten is playable/good, so it would be nice if someone could record themselves playing it, either a video or a replay. That way I can see if it's feasible for people to play (no nofail, no half time).

Silynn wrote:

Nyaten is pretty damn fun, and I can pretty easily pass on hidden

the flow is good so the slider overlaps don't really affect reading

nothing wrong with the map IMO so difficulty shouldn't stop the set from being ranked.

as far as AR10 is concerned

those streams are way too fast to warrant AR9

the bpm itself is enough for AR10

lolcubes wrote:

People who find it fun are people who find anything really hard fun. I won't deny that I don't find it fun as well for other reasons, but if you take a look around you will notice that nobody is actually FCing the map. This is a problem. Everyone has different opinions so it's kinda obvious. This is FC'able but extremely hard due to the length. Just look at Kokou no Sousei, no one has FC'ed it normally but it doesn't stop them from having fun.

I was asked to comment on this and so I will. I hope you don't take anything offensively because I will be blunt and honest to avoid any misinterpretation and confusion and to give you exact thoughts I have about this.

First of all:
The timing is wrong. 00:43:229 - Here you need a 5/4 red section because the time signature changes to 5/4. Next, you need a 4/4 red section at 00:51:801 because it goes back to 4/4 here. This also happens before other choruses later in the map. I'm not sure, it doesn't sound wrong with 4/4 either.

Second:


Before you say that there is one insane and 2 "extra" difficulties, please ask yourself why is there so many diffs like that. Especially since both are guest diffs. Kudos to Saten for doing all the work by the way. 142 notes > 228 notes > 442 notes > 688 notes > 894 notes > 1021 notes. this steps looks really nice. and removing easier difficulties because of this will ruin both the diff spread and the ladder

Let's comment on [Nyaten]:

First of all the difficulty is overmapped. I know that people find this fun most of the time, but in this case this is very wrong. This is 280 bpm (technically it should be 140 but I will not discuss this matter here). Also it is using OD7, when a map of this difficulty caliber should be using nearly OD9 (in my opinion). This is a rhythm game, not bash as fast as possible and still get 300 game. AR10 and OD7 makes little sense to me, and on the other hand 280bpm streams under OD9 are physically almost impossible to hit for anybody who isn't at the top20 of the skill level (not pp, just to clear the misunderstanding). This becomes a conflicting problem which unfortunately a lot of mappers ignore (this is my opinion). Also, thinking that lowering the OD will increase the map rating (does this even matter?) when in reality it only inflates how the maps should be strict. The difficulty is coming from the wrong sources (mostly it's physical movement or really complicated patterns which are usually unnecessary) which eliminates the "rhythm" part of the rhythm game. The only thing that is overmapped are the streams. Sure you maybe will find something else but I won't argue with that. And most rhythm games has dump difficulties where you just dump a bunch of beats to the actual bpm which makes less sense than this (mostly for professional players). This actually has structure and so on.

Now to the map itself:

00:08:515 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Why is this stream here? There is no 1/4 in the music at all. it's part of the pattern I use in this difficulty
00:15:372 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - ^ The first 3 notes are actually in the music, other drum beats are 1/2 here. Possible, but it would make this part unique
00:22:229 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is actually unrankable. The drumline is 1/3 here not 1/4. Incorrect snapping is not allowed. This is allowed. I don't really wanna argue with this. This would be the significant differences (other than the Approach Rate) between Saten & Nyaten *
00:34:229 (1,2) - Just an observation since I am already checking in details, the new combo should be on the 2, not 1 because that would make the comboing correct if you listed to the music. The jump would still make sense. The way I did also makes sense. I'll see about this later
00:35:997 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Again, the drumline is 1/3 here. *
00:53:301 (1,2,3,4) - There is nothing at 1/4 in the music here. This also feels very uncomfortable because it breaks the hitting flow, so instead of a buildup you get something which makes you go all out before the epic part actually starts because it's so sudden. Not to mention it makes certain upcoming notes have VERY POOR visibility. People usually say that this is alright to do in Insane diffs, but is this really necessary? Does the music imply anything that is a shadow, echo or gives a feeling that has to hide notes? I guess personal preference. listen carefully, it's 1/3. but I used 1/4 as in every other similar pattern, well this is the shortest one
00:56:944 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is probably the most uncreative part of the whole map. It's difficult to hit and it's tedious to play. I will not give examples or solutions, I am just giving comments here. I like really these, I only use if if I find fitting sections like this one
01:05:461 (2) - This note does not exist in the music. (before you point at 01:03:747 (2), this note does exist in the music)
01:06:801 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is properly made. I felt I had to point this out. look 02:11:944 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and 03:18:801 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - . You can see the pattern, these are the only places I allowed 1/3
01:27:372 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is 1/3 in the music. *
01:41:086 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ *
01:48:586 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Even though I like this pattern, you can't say it's very creative either. The same pattern is just getting rotated for many many measures. of course, this is intended. I really love patterns like this. And I wont use the same as the other sections, This is a unique part
01:58:229 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - And again more overmap. From 01:58:444 - to the downbeat the drum is 1/3 not 1/4 so this is also unrankable. *
02:06:694 (1,2,3,4) - I am having problems understanding these notes because they just destroy the rhythm the song gives us. I don't see how this destroys the rhythm at all. This was the best solution I had here
02:10:604 (6) - This note is not in the music. part of the usual pattern I use, it also gives you a hint that there's a big jump
02:25:658 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Even though I think this kind of overmap isn't really bad because it does create the necessary intensity from a calmer part (opinions), this probably shouldn't be done. I will repeat myself, this is 280 bpm, this does not need to be insanely hard which 30 people in this game can FC. Hard does not mean fun (maps should be fun, right?). The previous part was not mapped in Saten (and it is 1/3). In Nyaten it was meant to be really intense (for me it is anyway)
02:39:372 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - The drumline is 1/3 in the music. *
02:41:729 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Same like last time. Star patterns <3
02:59:836 (1,2,3,4) - And again these completely roll over the rhythm of the song. like I mentioned before
03:03:586 (1,2,3,4) - No stream in the music. same as before, this is used frequently
03:05:086 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 1/3 in the music. *
03:08:944 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I don't really find this creative either, but I find it MUCH better than what you had in the first kiai. Not only it has better readability, but it also has better playability. This is actually harder than the first one imo
03:15:586 (3,4,5,6) - This is 1/3 in the music. *

I can already see that people will bash me and this post because apparently I am against creativity (?). I wouldn't, I respect what other people thinks

I will not pop this because I don't have time to deal with maps nowadays but I surely hope you see the errors and make the changes yourself (ie. selfpop). The timing is wrong anyway.
I actually do like the map but I think it has several elements which should not be here when it comes to ranking a map. Opinions may vary, however if people don't understand why certain things are wrong then I can write all I want and will never be heard. Opinions always vary from person to person, I know
I am almost always against removing maps from the mapset, but if you ask me this diff should not be aiming to get ranked. There is always the problem of people not finding it fun anymore if things get changed, however you can't please everyone, unfortunately standards have to be kept. I always hear hate stuff regarding my maps, but at the same time the opposite
Once again I apologize if you find this post offensive, this is just pure bluntness and hope you don't hate me for it. Nah I won't :3

That's all from me now, and yes I can barely pass the map like once in 50 tries. <-< Yeah I know, I spectated you once

Saten wrote:

Of course, anything I map is passable
I don't map random magicarps

narakucrimson wrote:

Omg if I only had the time to check this... Sadly I can't :/

I kinda agree with lolcubes - Nyaten is overmapped, and that there's stuff that could use revision... Some stacked sliders were kinda impossible to read (gosh there have been mapsets unranked for unreadable stacked sliders in the past, and it would get through as easily?).

I hope I can get some spare time to check this in depth. In the meanwhile:

Saten wrote:

Of course, anything I map is passable
I don't map random magicarps

Yeah we all try to. That doesn't mean you cannot commit mistakes. I saw this as overconfidence, and I hope this doesn't mean you'll reject every mod from now on. Just making sure - and if that's the case, open your mind bro.

Anyway, I'll see you around!

BeatofIke wrote:

Saten is on FIRE!!!

SPOILER

Blaziken wrote:

Nice map, I look forward to seeing it ranked.

Makar wrote:

Blaziken wrote:

Nice map, I look forward to seeing it ranked.

How many posts like these is it going to take for BATs to decide to do something about this map xD