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Tablet Purchase Guide for osu!

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ann_old
nah, I already fixed all that, thanks for the thought though :)
with the delay I meant that it reacts perfectly, I read that tablets have a standard delay, but I don't notice it. p:
Pixa_old
Hello,
Lucky me I already had a tablet (the Trust Slimline Sketch tablet) when I discovered Osu!. However, it is a very cheap tablet and I wonder if I should keep it, for some reasons:

Even if the tablet is large enough with a good accuracy, the pen contains 2 AAA batteries which makes it big and heavy, and it sometimes opens itself.
The pen is made in a plastic material that gets slippy in my hand after 1min of non-intensive use, is it my fault ? :(
The hoovering gets regularly buggy (immobile pointer) and I need to click on the tablet to make it work (even with new batteries). This made me ragequit many maps.
I feel a lack of reactivity, but I may be wrong on this point.

I just can't seem to find any decent review of this tablet so does anyone knows something about it ?
Since I may use the tablet for other graphic applications, I'm considering buying real Wacom stuff, there are plenty of people who sell their tablets (that they almost never used) cheaper than the official price.
ann_old
It's probably too old to have a decent review of it.
I would buy a new tablet, playing with a broken/old one is hell.
If you're going to buy another tablet then keep in mind that buying a used one is risky, it could be old and have a massive delay. I had a 7 year old tablet that I never used before, after all that time I started using it but it had a delay of like 1/10th of a second. You could buy a tablet for half the price of a new one, but paying that extra ensures warranty and quality in my opinion.
Whatever you choose to do, stay with Wacom. ;)
Pixa_old
Thanks for your answer. I was rather thinking of buying a used Bamboo Fun/Pen/Pen&touch. Some people buy one for no solid reason, use it for 2h and then try to get rid of it, most of the time 20-30% cheaper. I'd just like to keep the same area I have now, without paying too much. But I'll go for a Wacom obviously ^^
ann_old
I am aware of people who do that. If you buy a tablet that has been used be sure to check how old it is, hardware also has an expiry date. (Just don't go buying 7 year old tablets)
VoidnOwO
:oops:
Pixa_old

BRBP wrote:

You don't happen to know if it's possible to adjust the tablet area, do you? (I couldn't get it working).
I didn't have any trouble changing the area, if the "Trust Tablet Control Panel" doesn't install automatically you can download it on their website.
It looks like this with me


I guess Wacom totally owns this market 8-)
ann_old
Wacom also doesn't automatically install, but it comes with a driver software CD.
A vitally important feature Wacom products have is "Force proportions" which forces your area to have the same proportions as your screen resolution.
Pixa_old
There is nothing to say about the software for this tablet. The "force proportions" option exists ("rapport d'écran" in french, for "screen ratio"), and many customizable parameters too. The only matter is the quality of the tablet itself
Pixa_old
Sorry, I have another question now ^^
I can find a bamboo Pen&Touch for 50€ approximatively, and a bamboo Connect (pen only) for 60€.
Is it really worth buying the newest wacom generation ? It is more expensive and it doesn't feature the touch usage, so is it balanced by an improvement in the quality, the stylus, durability, etc ? (I keep in mind that I may use it for occasional drawings)
Elysion
The new gen is as precise as an intuos4, go for it.
Pixa_old

Elysion wrote:

The new gen is as precise as an intuos4, go for it.
I read that it was only more precise for the pressure levels of the stylus (1024, like the intuos4), and not for spacial precision. I do care about pressure levels but intuos4 is for professionals, I don't really need that :/
Elysion
I'm talking about spacial precision too. For 10 more €, it's worth it.
Pixa_old
They have the same resolution and the same active area, how could it be more precise ?
Elysion
I have no idea, it just is. Try it out somewhere if you don't believe me, you'll see.
Aubrey888
will work on samsung galaxy tab? :\
RBRat3
FYI lpi has 0 influence on osu! unless your active area is something thats 0.5sq inch which the driver wont let you do nor I don't think anyone here has that kind of motor control. Its high density count is purely for graphic applications that utilize absolute position data (Not cursor position) for example like drawing a very small circle on a 12,000px x 9000px canvas thats fitting inside a 1920x1080 screen the circle would look like a pixel when drawn on the monitor but if you zoom in it will be a small circle in retrospect its just to pick up the finer things.

ann wrote:

I am aware of people who do that. If you buy a tablet that has been used be sure to check how old it is, hardware also has an expiry date. (Just don't go buying 7 year old tablets)
I proudly use a 12 year old tablet just fine thank you very much :P
Marblehead

RBRat3 wrote:

FYI lpi has 0 influence on osu! unless your active area is something thats 0.5sq inch which the driver wont let you do nor I don't think anyone here has that kind of motor control.
These are my tablet's settings. 0.95 x 0.6 = 0.57 sq inches. My skill hasn't reach yet the limits of the tablet and it still feels really responsive and smooth. And it's just a Trust Mini Tablet, which costs around 20€, not an expensive Wacom tablet.

Of course, I'm still far from being a top Osu! player (actually I consider myself a newbie), but since I've bought my tablet 2 months ago (when I've hit a brick wall playing with a mouse around rank #12000) I'm using these settings and I'm now at rank ~#2000 and the tablet still keeps up with my speed, while I'm still improving day by day in a noticeable pace.

Anyway, I don't know if a Wacom tablet makes a difference at top ranks, but until now I haven't felt the need for a better tablet. And I still can increase my active area if I experience any problems with the tablet's accuracy. So, my opinion thus far is that lpi doesn't matter for Osu!, even while using a small active area.

Just my 2c.

Replays
Also here are some replays of mine on maps with some jumps, in case anyone wishes to see how this small active area plays out:

SYNC.ART'S feat. Sakaue Nachi - Taketori Hishou [Lunatic]
Hatsuki Yura - HAMELN [Insane]
RSP - Sakura ~Anata ni Deaete Yokatta~ [Hard]
Hikaru Genji - Yuuki 100% [Frantic]
RBRat3
That was only in reference to wacom tablets specifically, It has no meaning on non wacom products.
Marblehead

RBRat3 wrote:

That was only in reference to wacom tablets specifically, It has no meaning on non wacom products.
My point was that lpi doesn't matter for Osu! regardless the tablet (from my experience). Maybe I didn't express myself correctly, but I wasn't trying to disagree with you. I just quoted you as a prologue to what I wanted to say.
K E R U
Can i use Wacom CTH461 Bamboo Craft Tablet ?
i mean is it going to be as good as Wacom Bamboo Pen Tablet 2nd g?

and thanks for the guide :lol:
DJKero

Kennjin wrote:

Can I also become one of the top players without a tablet or is that impossible with mouse and keyboard ?
Yeah, if you practice enough, you can... see how Silvia plays: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/silvia 8-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_iFMpiqlkQ ;)
Miyu
i have the exactly same tablet of the second generation one yet my pen kind of teleports on the game sometime. but besides that its great to play with
Bweh

UltimateZio wrote:

Can i use Wacom CTH461 Bamboo Craft Tablet ?
i mean is it going to be as good as Wacom Bamboo Pen Tablet 2nd g?

and thanks for the guide :lol:
I've used different kinds of Wacom tablets and I can tell you that most tablets will function pretty much the same in osu! and you shouldn't worry about it. The only palpable differences would be the tablet's size, dimensions, and durability, all of which you can get used to or touch up in the tablet's properties tab. Other than that (i.e. buttons, pressure features, different kinds of nibs) shouldn't affect you unless you use Wacom products for digital art.
DieOrYouWillDie
Is this a good tablet for playing osu?
-Soba-
intuos4 small, best
Kanye West

DieOrYouWillDie wrote:

Is this a good tablet for playing osu?
I have this, and yes I do believe it is the cheapest Wacom product in the current line and is good for osu!
ApolloFortyNine
If your looking for a cheap osu tablet, the following is a great choice: http://www.amazon.com/uDraw-Game-tablet ... ords=udraw

If you buy the ps3 version, you can install drivers that allow you to use it as a mouse on PC. (here http://brandonw.net/udraw/ ) It works perfectly, and though I am shit tier at osu, [ Depression ] was able to use it as well (roommates) and was able to do well with it. Of course we each have wacom tablets, which are obviously better than this cheap tablet.

Oh yea, its $12.

Worth it if you've ever wanted to try out a tablet.
Phantasyy
Just wondering
If I buy the Bamboo mte-450, will there be much of a difference to the CTL-470?
Also, if I buy a pen made for the CTL-470 (GEN 3) will it also work for the mte-450 (GEN 1)?
Thanks
Kanye West
Has anyone tried playing osu! on a cintiq? I know it's way too expensive and impractical but just wondering if anyone's ever gotten to try one.
Phantasyy

Phantasyy wrote:

Just wondering
If I buy the Bamboo mte-450, will there be much of a difference to the CTL-470?
Also, if I buy a pen made for the CTL-470 (GEN 3) will it also work for the mte-450 (GEN 1)?
Thanks
To all those asking the same question
All GEN pen's are only compatible with the tablet they're made for
IppE

Kanye West wrote:

Has anyone tried playing osu! on a cintiq? I know it's way too expensive and impractical but just wondering if anyone's ever gotten to try one.
They have quite a bit of input lag, so I don't know how viable it is. Maybe if you set the universal offset just right.
-Soul-
Does anyone have any experience with this?

http://www.amazon.com/PenPad-7-7-Inch-G ... =vt+penpad

I'm currently using it, not doing to great so far... Wondering if it's because I bought a cheaper tablet, or if It's just me adjusting to it.

I'll give it a week or two to see which case it is.
andromeda2020
Bamboo manga is it ok for playing osu?
Flanster

Gnarwhally wrote:

Does anyone have any experience with this?

http://www.amazon.com/PenPad-7-7-Inch-G ... =vt+penpad

I'm currently using it, not doing to great so far... Wondering if it's because I bought a cheaper tablet, or if It's just me adjusting to it.

I'll give it a week or two to see which case it is.
Just because its not Wacom doesn't mean its shit and worthless. Just get used to it for now yeah.
Bonobo
Has anyone had good experiences with the bamboo splash? It's the only one I can find in canada for under 100 by wacom.
I also found the bamboo capture for 85$, the splash I can get for 61$ with tax, is the capture worth the extra 24$ or are they basically the same?
-Soul-

faggotfaggot wrote:

Has anyone had good experiences with the bamboo splash? It's the only one I can find in canada for under 100 by wacom.
I also found the bamboo capture for 85$, the splash I can get for 61$ with tax, is the capture worth the extra 24$ or are they basically the same?
It doesn't really matter, I'm using a 30$ tablet, with no major issues.

The only advantage that tablets have for Osu! Is that they feature absolute tracking, in higher end tablets they may be more accurate in terms of pressure etc. which is useful for art applications but useless for Osu!...

Bamboo Splash would be a good choice, it has everything you need, and all the features that are useful for Osu! gameplay without the cost of the higher end models.

Good hover distance
Area change on tablet (on my tablet I have to change my screens resolution, which is annoying)
No latency issues.
Bonobo

Gnarwhally wrote:

faggotfaggot wrote:

Has anyone had good experiences with the bamboo splash? It's the only one I can find in canada for under 100 by wacom.
I also found the bamboo capture for 85$, the splash I can get for 61$ with tax, is the capture worth the extra 24$ or are they basically the same?
It doesn't really matter, I'm using a 30$ tablet, with no major issues.

The only advantage that tablets have for Osu! Is that they feature absolute tracking, in higher end tablets they may be more accurate in terms of pressure etc. which is useful for art applications but useless for Osu!...

Bamboo Splash would be a good choice, it has everything you need, and all the features that are useful for Osu! gameplay without the cost of the higher end models.

Good hover distance
Area change on tablet (on my tablet I have to change my screens resolution, which is annoying)
No latency issues.
Alright thanks a lot, you saved me 20$ as a student :P
Naccer
I live in europe, and I cant buy the Splash or other products that were in OP's topic,

So my question is :

Is the Bamboo Pen and Touch as good as the 99 dollar equivalent Bamboo or is it totally different?
Also what is the difference between the Pen and touch and the Fun S pen and touch?

http://nl.shop.wacom.eu/Producten/Bamboo

Thanks in regards :)
Fivas_old
I purchased a 'Bamboo Pen' tablet yesterday. I hope it arrives soon!

It arrived! but I'm currently staying at my boyfriend's, so I won't be able to try it out until Saturday. I can post what I think about the tablet then if anyone is interested in buying that model.
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