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[Kanzaki Ranko]
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Very nice and accurate guide. Though, there's something that's wrong, from my point of view.

Daru wrote:

In Short: Wacom's the recommend brand. Cintiq and Intuos tablets are too expensive and give no real advantage over Bamboo for osu!. See the recommend options above for the recommend models. Also try your luck at a used Intuos3 if you're also into art.
A Cintiq tablet is probably much better than a Bamboo/Intuos one for osu!, resembling the DS gaming experience. If you have someone on your family that has a professional use for a Cintiq and has a old one (if this person bought a bigger one, for example), it's actually better than the other two lines.
Daru
osu!painter
866 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Daru

Maav wrote:

Very nice and accurate guide. Though, there's something that's wrong, from my point of view.

Daru wrote:

In Short: Wacom's the recommend brand. Cintiq and Intuos tablets are too expensive and give no real advantage over Bamboo for osu!. See the recommend options above for the recommend models. Also try your luck at a used Intuos3 if you're also into art.
A Cintiq tablet is probably much better than a Bamboo/Intuos one for osu!, resembling the DS gaming experience. If you have someone on your family that has a professional use for a Cintiq and has a old one (if this person bought a bigger one, for example), it's actually better than the other two lines.
I say "give no real advantage" with respect with the price. The small bamboo can be had for $70, whereas Cintiqs start at $1000. I feel that it's very hard to justify buying a Cintiq if you're going to use it for only osu! at this price difference. Furthermore, the advantages of playing on a screen are, for some, countered by the disadvantage of having your hand and arm covering a good bit of your play area, so I don't think it's right to say that Cintiqs are objectively better than the tablets without screens. From my personal experience I've found this disadvantage to be very significant (I've played osu! on a friend's 12" Cintiq, as well as Tablet PCs).

As for getting things from relatives, note that this is a tablet purchase guide. ;)
I'm trying to weigh price relative to functionality in osu!, and paying upwards of $1000 for a device that you're only going to use for osu! would be, in my opinion, a complete waste of money.

Though, thanks for the input. :)
nVidi4x
110 posts
Joined November 2009
nVidi4x
Very good review, complete information about tablets :D.
For anyone who wants to know I've tried 3 kinds of tablets, "Bambo 2nd generation", "Bamboo 3rd Generation" and "Wacom Intuos 4"(This is my tablet). I bought it because i just had the money, i'm not a drawer, i just use it for math and osu.

So let me tell you:

If you want to buy a GOOD tablet go for BAMBOO CONNECT (considering the money) because is almost the same than intuos4 (it cost me like $USD 340).

The main difference i felt between this 3 tablets was the "lift detection" of the pencil; with intuos4 you can play with the pencil in the air very well, but with 2nd and 3rd generation sometimes i missed the detection and i failed (like 1or 2cm of difference, that's all).

Also intuos 4's software allows you to adjust your Area. This is very important because YOU MUST PLAY in the same proportion than your resolution. I play 1680x1050 (aspect ratio (AR) 16:10) and intuos 4 is 16:10 so it's perfect for me. This is very helpful because you can decide your area with numerical values.

EDIT

Active areas for tablets
you obtain the aspect ration in full area dividing long by high

Intuos4 = 6.2" x 3.9" in AR= 1.59
2nd Gen = 5.8" x 3.6" in AR= 1.61
3rd Gen = 5.8" x 3.6" in AR= 1.61

so as you can see, all wacom tablets*were made for AR 16:10, consider this to play in a good "rectangular proportion" ingame, you shouldn't try to introduce a square into a rectangle, that's why AR is sooo important.

I hope this can help you if you're not pretty sure on what to buy. Sorry for my english but if you still have any dude ask me :)
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LnDSuv
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LnDSuv

nVidi4x wrote:

Very good review, complete information about tablets :D.
For anyone who wants to know I've tried 3 kinds of tablets, "Bambo 2nd generation", "Bamboo 3rd Generation" and "Wacom Intuos 4"(This is my tablet). I bought it because i just had the money, i'm not a drawer, i just use it for math and osu.

So let me tell you:

If you want to buy a tablet go for 3rd generation (considering the money) because is almost the same than intuos4 (it cost me like $USD 340).

The main difference i felt between this 2 tablets wais the "lift detection" of the pencil; with intuos4 you can play with the pencil in the air very well, but with 3rd generation sometimes i missed the detection and i failed (like 2cm of difference, that's all).

Also intuos 4's software allows you to adjust your Area. This is very important because YOU MUST PLAY in the same proportion than your resolution. I play 1680x1050 (aspect ratio 16:10) and intuos 4 is 16:10 so it's perfect for me, but if you're buying a 3rd gen bamboo your resolution should be in aspec ratio 16:9 (resolutions HD 1280x720, 1920x1080, etc)

I'm not pretty sure but i think you can have a little advantage with intuos.

I hope this can help you if you're not pretty sure on what to buy. Sorry for my english but if you still have any dude ask me :)
Thx dude!
I was wondering what tablet I should choose for 16:9 a.r. and you have answered my question!
btw, is there any difference between pen only tablet and pen & touch? I mean are there any tricks or smth?
MMzz
Elite Mapper
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MMzz

LnDSuv wrote:

nVidi4x wrote:

Very good review, complete information about tablets :D.
For anyone who wants to know I've tried 3 kinds of tablets, "Bambo 2nd generation", "Bamboo 3rd Generation" and "Wacom Intuos 4"(This is my tablet). I bought it because i just had the money, i'm not a drawer, i just use it for math and osu.

So let me tell you:

If you want to buy a tablet go for 3rd generation (considering the money) because is almost the same than intuos4 (it cost me like $USD 340).

The main difference i felt between this 2 tablets wais the "lift detection" of the pencil; with intuos4 you can play with the pencil in the air very well, but with 3rd generation sometimes i missed the detection and i failed (like 2cm of difference, that's all).

Also intuos 4's software allows you to adjust your Area. This is very important because YOU MUST PLAY in the same proportion than your resolution. I play 1680x1050 (aspect ratio 16:10) and intuos 4 is 16:10 so it's perfect for me, but if you're buying a 3rd gen bamboo your resolution should be in aspec ratio 16:9 (resolutions HD 1280x720, 1920x1080, etc)

I'm not pretty sure but i think you can have a little advantage with intuos.

I hope this can help you if you're not pretty sure on what to buy. Sorry for my english but if you still have any dude ask me :)
Thx dude!
I was wondering what tablet I should choose for 16:9 a.r. and you have answered my question!
btw, is there any difference between pen only tablet and pen & touch? I mean are there any tricks or smth?
Pen and touch just has a feature where you can use your finger.
Buy the pen.
nVidi4x
110 posts
Joined November 2009
nVidi4x

LnDSuv wrote:

I was wondering what tablet I should choose for 16:9 a.r. and you have answered my question!
btw, is there any difference between pen only tablet and pen & touch? I mean are there any tricks or smth?
I edited the info, all tablets were made for ar 16:10.
Pen and Touch is White and (just) Pen is Black.
Touch must be disable to play osu well, but is the same tablet, it has the same spech techs. just buy the color that u want :)
Daru
osu!painter
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Topic Starter
Daru
Actually the older tablets are 4:3. ;)
Basically everything before the Bamboo tablets are 4:3, and most everything after is 16:10. There is still a Cintiq that's 4:3, I believe. My intuos3 is 9x12", or 4:3.

I didn't put any info about actually playing with a tablet because that would require a thread in and of itself, I think - this is strictly a purchase guide that weighs the various benefits of certain tablets against the prices, plus some basic info.

@LnDSuv:
The majority of monitors nowadays are 16:9, though most "art" class monitors that focus on color reproduction above all else are 16:10, which is part of the reason why the tablets are made in that aspect ratio. I'd personally recommend remapping it to have 1:1 vertical:horizontal movement, even if it means you're cutting off a bit of the active area to do so. My tablet is 4:3, but I have a 16:10 monitor, so there's a slice at the bottom that's not used.

The difference between Pen&Touch and Pen models is really just the "touch" function. I really don't think it's worth it, but that's just from my personal experience.

---
Oh, and to answer that question from a while ago about overlay sheets...

I've found that a piece of plexiglass cut to the correct dimensions, then sanded down with very fine sandpaper (600+ grit) makes for a suitable, cheap replacement for your overlay sheet. The sheet can then be adhered to the tablet with some double-sided tape. It's quite a bit thicker than the regular sheet, which is the only drawback, but you can get decently sized pieces for under $4, which is much cheaper than Wacom's $30 replacement sheets.
TenDesires_old
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TenDesires_old
From what I know about graphic tablets, I would highly recomment to get the Capture instead of the Connect.

Bamboo Connect sure is enough to play osu!, but there is only a 20$ difference between this and the Capture, and you get multi-touch, programmable buttons and Photoshop Elements. At first, I bought my Capture thinking about using it to play osu!, but later I found that multi-touch gestures are far more ergonomic for navigating than the mouse, which I use only in games now.

The presence of PSE in the software bundle makes it also a far better deal.
-Soba-
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-Soba-
Obv Intuos4 Small = best osu tablet around >:T
Colored
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Colored
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Inaba_old_1
Inaba_old_1
I don't suppose there's a way to use my cintiq as a regular tablet?
Not that it matters, since I'm too used to mouse now.
How
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Joined October 2011
How
I might get Bamboo next week. :3.
BTW, TNX 4 advice.
jianzii
74 posts
Joined February 2012
jianzii

[Cooper] wrote:

I might get Bamboo next week. :3.
BTW, TNX 4 advice.
Same, really really helpful guide.
paitehoens
121 posts
Joined November 2010
paitehoens
i have a bamboo third gen..
may i ask something here? can somebody tell me how to save custom preferences for bamboo?
thank you so much.. and sorry for my bad english :(
Zelmarked
407 posts
Joined September 2011
Zelmarked
If you installed your drivers, you'll find it in the control panel. "Bamboo preferences".
paitehoens
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Joined November 2010
paitehoens
found it.. thank you so much :D
Maneuver
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Maneuver
I think tablet learning curve is much easier than using mouse. As for mobility the pen is much more lighter and easier for precise control and moving than the mouse. Which one is more tired ?
Zelmarked
407 posts
Joined September 2011
Zelmarked
That's hard for me to say as to whether or not the learning curve is easier. Half the obj is accomplished by keyboard clicks, if you use +kb setups, which don't deffer in execution when switching from mouse to tablet.
It's hard to articulate but some experience even if under one peripheral can somewhat translate to using a a different peripheral, I would think. I'd like to hear experiences from people who started on a tablet and didn't use a mouse on how hard it was for them.

I'd say mouse is hard on your wrist and also your, thumb, pinky, and ring finger depending on how much you claw grip. Also tiring up your arm if use a low sensitivity.
Pen is a killer of fingers if you heavily claw grip. Wrist hurts on full proportions when you try to move your wrist as to not have to move your arm.
Can't say definitively yet.
Derekku
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Derekku
I have the first generation Bamboo Fun. Bought it in late 2008 for around $100 and it's still going strong! If anything ever happens to it, I might try the second generation Bamboo Fun. Great guide, by the way! (:
Raynor_senpai
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Raynor_senpai
good information!, but I have a question, what is better and recomended for playing osu
-Wacom Bamboo Capture
-Wacom Bamboo Connect

it's because I'll buy a new tablet but I interesed in a Bamboo Capture , and I read that the Bamboo connect is recomended in this post so, I Have no Idea what to buy!

so what is better?? =D)thanks!!!
Layne_old_1
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kriers
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kriers
I have dusty intous4 laying around here somewhere... The responsiveness is much higher than any other tablet I've ever tried. Hardly a sign of any 'squary' movements when hovering.

Expensive as hell, though xD
Meru
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Meru
Is that genius tablet really bad? I want to try playing with tablet but I don't have enough budget ._.
jianzii
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jianzii

Matoryoshika wrote:

Is that genius tablet really bad? I want to try playing with tablet but I don't have enough budget ._.
Well, if Genius is selling their tablets, there can't be a whole mess of things wrong with them, but Wacom has kind of monopolized the market. How much is a Genius tablet compared to a Bamboo Pen that you can get for $50? Because I wouldn't buy a tablet below that price.
peppercatastrop
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peppercatastrop

jianzii wrote:

Matoryoshika wrote:

Is that genius tablet really bad? I want to try playing with tablet but I don't have enough budget ._.
Well, if Genius is selling their tablets, there can't be a whole mess of things wrong with them, but Wacom has kind of monopolized the market. How much is a Genius tablet compared to a Bamboo Pen that you can get for $50? Because I wouldn't buy a tablet below that price.
Mine's Genius G-Pen 4500, around $45 (it is 420000 IDR)
I haven't tried any tablet beside Genius so i can't tell.
G a r u d a
G a r u d a
I'm seriously thinking about buying a tablet, I'm sick of using mouse >_>
The problem is, I don't know how much it costs here D:
Any brazillian players around? ):
G a r u d a
G a r u d a
I just checked it... It costs around 200 to 300 bucks... Thanks for answering =3=
Meru
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Meru

AeroRange wrote:

jianzii wrote:

Well, if Genius is selling their tablets, there can't be a whole mess of things wrong with them, but Wacom has kind of monopolized the market. How much is a Genius tablet compared to a Bamboo Pen that you can get for $50? Because I wouldn't buy a tablet below that price.
Mine's Genius G-Pen 4500, around $45 (it is 420000 IDR)
I haven't tried any tablet beside Genius so i can't tell.
Then... Is there any problem with that tablet? I mean you still can play fairly well with that genius right?
TenDesires_old
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TenDesires_old

Raynor_senpai wrote:

good information!, but I have a question, what is better and recomended for playing osu
-Wacom Bamboo Capture
-Wacom Bamboo Connect

it's because I'll buy a new tablet but I interesed in a Bamboo Capture , and I read that the Bamboo connect is recomended in this post so, I Have no Idea what to buy!

so what is better?? =D)thanks!!!
Connect is okay to play osu!, but if you think Capture's features will be useful in other things for you like it was for me then buy it, it's only 20$ more expensive.
kingking9
osu! Alumni
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kingking9
I personally use a Bamboo Fun: Pen and Touch for osu!. It's quite good, but the tip on the pen wears out quite quickly, and you then have to buy a whole new pen (as the Bamboo line don't have replaceable nibs). It's easy to swap between a mouse, tablet and touchscreen though, so there's never an excuse not to play osu!
Mythras
255 posts
Joined February 2010
Mythras

kingking9 wrote:

I personally use a Bamboo Fun: Pen and Touch for osu!. It's quite good, but the tip on the pen wears out quite quickly, and you then have to buy a whole new pen (as the Bamboo line don't have replaceable nibs). It's easy to swap between a mouse, tablet and touchscreen though, so there's never an excuse not to play osu!
why dont you juse hover? then the pen lives on
peppercatastrop
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peppercatastrop

Matoryoshika wrote:

AeroRange wrote:

Mine's Genius G-Pen 4500, around $45 (it is 420000 IDR)
I haven't tried any tablet beside Genius so i can't tell.
Then... Is there any problem with that tablet? I mean you still can play fairly well with that genius right?
Yup. The first nib is still good until now.
My favourite part of Genius graphic tablets is the area config.
SPOILER
Daru
osu!painter
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Topic Starter
Daru
Genius tablets aren't worth it, in my opinion.

They're priced fairly close to their Wacom counterparts in terms of size - close enough that it's often not worth sacrificing the quality of the product to save a few bucks.

It's very much a case of "you get what you pay for" - Wacom is the name brand here, and is almost unanimously favored by artists because of the quality of the product you receive (with some misgivings for the 1st gen Bamboo Fun). Genius tablets certainly are an option, but I can't really recommend them in comparison to Wacom.

It's worth noting that nearly all tablets share the basic options needed for osu - that is, sensitive area configuration and a "pen", or absolute tracking mode.
kingking9
osu! Alumni
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kingking9

Unkind wrote:

why dont you juse hover? then the pen lives on
I'm beginning to do that, but it feels really weird. I almost rely on the feedback from the pen touching the tablet to make sure the note hits...
peppercatastrop
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peppercatastrop
But no one selling any other tablet than Genius in here D:
Or maybe I have to purchase one from Jakarta

... oh wait I already had a tablet
Tsukimi Luna
726 posts
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Tsukimi Luna
I think I'm gonna get a Wacom bamboo connect >.<
emergist
106 posts
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emergist
I've just bought a Wacom CTF-420, it's awesome.
VaiL_old
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VaiL_old

AeroRange wrote:

But no one selling any other tablet than Genius in here D:
Or maybe I have to purchase one from Jakarta

... oh wait I already had a tablet
why dont you look for it in singapore? i've seen a lot of tablets over there.. and indonesia is right beside singapore
AliceSuyeong
AliceSuyeong

kingking9 wrote:

Unkind wrote:

why dont you juse hover? then the pen lives on
I'm beginning to do that, but it feels really weird. I almost rely on the feedback from the pen touching the tablet to make sure the note hits...
Is it intentional that the pen moves really slowly? Compared to the mouse of course. It feels to be even slower when I do not hover and use it with a physical contact instead.
Valentiino
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Valentiino

AliceSuyeong wrote:

Is it intentional that the pen moves really slowly? Compared to the mouse of course. It feels to be even slower when I do not hover and use it with a physical contact instead.
The only way the cursor can feel "slow" is coz of input lag, caused by something (aero + windowed mode on osu! does that)
Kennjin
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Kennjin
Can I also become one of the top players without a tablet or is that impossible with mouse and keyboard ?
YodaSnipe
1,378 posts
Joined February 2011
YodaSnipe
omg wacom totemo lied to me. They was like NO! you can't use older gen pens on newer gen tablets. So I raged at osu! playing some map and broke my new gen tablet pen, only to find an older gen tablet pen and IT POOTIN' WORKED. Damn wacom you LIED TO ME T_T

/me cries in a corner.
Nekoroll
513 posts
Joined May 2010
Nekoroll
rofl Yoda.

Great tablet purchasing guide. I use an intuos3 and my tablet has been working just as new for the past 5 or so years that I've used it for art and osu! (2 years+). I hover except for when I spin and the only noticeable wear is just the tiny area in the middle where I spin. My pen is great. :D Keyboard has not broken either.

I agree with everything Daru recommended. SS would read again.


Kennjin wrote:

Can I also become one of the top players without a tablet or is that impossible with mouse and keyboard ?
There are many top players who use mouse. Don't be discouraged. :)
jianzii
74 posts
Joined February 2012
jianzii
I think I might switch from my Intuos4 to a Bamboo Pen. I'm finding that I don't really do any art anymore, so my tablet is basically just an Osu! input device.
atrain
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Joined July 2011
atrain
I just wanted to say that Thanks to this article I have decided to buy the Bamboo connect instead of going with some cheaper art tablet.

I get it in tomorrow and I can not wait to start learning tablet. I hope it only takes me a few hours to get used to Like how it did when i was learning arcade stick for the first time.
darkmiz
407 posts
Joined August 2011
darkmiz
So many people buy tablets to play osu.
I think tablet companies should pay peppy for increasing their sales :)
peppy
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Here since the beginning
peppy
You can support osu! while buying a tablet by using my amazon links :).

These are my two recommendations from a price, size and quality perspective:

Wacom Bamboo Splash Pen Tablet ($66.99)
Wacom Bamboo Capture Pen and Touch Tablet ($89.99)

If you have any other amazon fulfilled tablets you want to buy, I can create links for those too.
nanashiRei
228 posts
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nanashiRei
Just thinking, can you add links that work with the European version of Amazon, too? Those won't work for me, guess it's because of the company split EU/US/Asia
peppy
19,374 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
Not too sure if that works with referral links.
PhiLL A
PhiLL A
Do gen 3 pens work on gen 2 tablets?
enik
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enik

MxG PhiLL wrote:

Do gen 3 pens work on gen 2 tablets?
SPOILER
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101104194514AA2IZm8
Seems like no.
P.S. Happy 5 Birthday Osu!
PhiLL A
PhiLL A
Oh, that sucks. I thought you could, because i saw some live plays by Rucker and apparently he uses gen 2 tablet with gen 3 pen. Go figure.
enik
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enik
I'm not sure about it, just googled. Try to contact Wacom tech support or PM Rucker.
Kluddio
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Kluddio
Bamboo + intous are the best tablets all of them works, all you need is training with them so .

(using a Wacom intous 4 with a small area 1/4 of the size)
ann_old
ann_old
I hate how they sell different tablets in Asia, the USA and the EU.
But reading through this thread helped me a lot, got myself a Wacom Intuos 5 and wow, it's really good and actually responds without any (noticeable)delay.
Thanks for this thread!
Kluddio
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Kluddio

xann wrote:

I hate how they sell different tablets in Asia, the USA and the EU.
But reading through this thread helped me a lot, got myself a Wacom Intuos 5 and wow, it's really good and actually responds without any (noticeable)delay.
Thanks for this thread!
If you activate a circle when you press down you can fix that, i googled a bit and found out that you have to disable a think in W7 and the ring got removed. it basicly it right klicks everytime you press it down.
ann_old
ann_old
nah, I already fixed all that, thanks for the thought though :)
with the delay I meant that it reacts perfectly, I read that tablets have a standard delay, but I don't notice it. p:
Pixa_old
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Pixa_old
Hello,
Lucky me I already had a tablet (the Trust Slimline Sketch tablet) when I discovered Osu!. However, it is a very cheap tablet and I wonder if I should keep it, for some reasons:

Even if the tablet is large enough with a good accuracy, the pen contains 2 AAA batteries which makes it big and heavy, and it sometimes opens itself.
The pen is made in a plastic material that gets slippy in my hand after 1min of non-intensive use, is it my fault ? :(
The hoovering gets regularly buggy (immobile pointer) and I need to click on the tablet to make it work (even with new batteries). This made me ragequit many maps.
I feel a lack of reactivity, but I may be wrong on this point.

I just can't seem to find any decent review of this tablet so does anyone knows something about it ?
Since I may use the tablet for other graphic applications, I'm considering buying real Wacom stuff, there are plenty of people who sell their tablets (that they almost never used) cheaper than the official price.
ann_old
ann_old
It's probably too old to have a decent review of it.
I would buy a new tablet, playing with a broken/old one is hell.
If you're going to buy another tablet then keep in mind that buying a used one is risky, it could be old and have a massive delay. I had a 7 year old tablet that I never used before, after all that time I started using it but it had a delay of like 1/10th of a second. You could buy a tablet for half the price of a new one, but paying that extra ensures warranty and quality in my opinion.
Whatever you choose to do, stay with Wacom. ;)
Pixa_old
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Pixa_old
Thanks for your answer. I was rather thinking of buying a used Bamboo Fun/Pen/Pen&touch. Some people buy one for no solid reason, use it for 2h and then try to get rid of it, most of the time 20-30% cheaper. I'd just like to keep the same area I have now, without paying too much. But I'll go for a Wacom obviously ^^
ann_old
ann_old
I am aware of people who do that. If you buy a tablet that has been used be sure to check how old it is, hardware also has an expiry date. (Just don't go buying 7 year old tablets)
VoidnOwO
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:oops:
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Pixa_old
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Pixa_old

BRBP wrote:

You don't happen to know if it's possible to adjust the tablet area, do you? (I couldn't get it working).
I didn't have any trouble changing the area, if the "Trust Tablet Control Panel" doesn't install automatically you can download it on their website.
It looks like this with me

SPOILER

I guess Wacom totally owns this market 8-)
ann_old
ann_old
Wacom also doesn't automatically install, but it comes with a driver software CD.
A vitally important feature Wacom products have is "Force proportions" which forces your area to have the same proportions as your screen resolution.
Pixa_old
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Pixa_old
There is nothing to say about the software for this tablet. The "force proportions" option exists ("rapport d'écran" in french, for "screen ratio"), and many customizable parameters too. The only matter is the quality of the tablet itself
Pixa_old
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Pixa_old
Sorry, I have another question now ^^
I can find a bamboo Pen&Touch for 50€ approximatively, and a bamboo Connect (pen only) for 60€.
Is it really worth buying the newest wacom generation ? It is more expensive and it doesn't feature the touch usage, so is it balanced by an improvement in the quality, the stylus, durability, etc ? (I keep in mind that I may use it for occasional drawings)
Elysion
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Elysion
The new gen is as precise as an intuos4, go for it.
Pixa_old
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Pixa_old

Elysion wrote:

The new gen is as precise as an intuos4, go for it.
I read that it was only more precise for the pressure levels of the stylus (1024, like the intuos4), and not for spacial precision. I do care about pressure levels but intuos4 is for professionals, I don't really need that :/
Elysion
201 posts
Joined May 2009
Elysion
I'm talking about spacial precision too. For 10 more €, it's worth it.
Pixa_old
7 posts
Joined April 2012
Pixa_old
They have the same resolution and the same active area, how could it be more precise ?
Elysion
201 posts
Joined May 2009
Elysion
I have no idea, it just is. Try it out somewhere if you don't believe me, you'll see.
Aubrey888
3 posts
Joined April 2012
Aubrey888
will work on samsung galaxy tab? :\
RBRat3
osu!painter
762 posts
Joined April 2010
RBRat3
FYI lpi has 0 influence on osu! unless your active area is something thats 0.5sq inch which the driver wont let you do nor I don't think anyone here has that kind of motor control. Its high density count is purely for graphic applications that utilize absolute position data (Not cursor position) for example like drawing a very small circle on a 12,000px x 9000px canvas thats fitting inside a 1920x1080 screen the circle would look like a pixel when drawn on the monitor but if you zoom in it will be a small circle in retrospect its just to pick up the finer things.

ann wrote:

I am aware of people who do that. If you buy a tablet that has been used be sure to check how old it is, hardware also has an expiry date. (Just don't go buying 7 year old tablets)
I proudly use a 12 year old tablet just fine thank you very much :P
Marblehead
22 posts
Joined November 2011
Marblehead

RBRat3 wrote:

FYI lpi has 0 influence on osu! unless your active area is something thats 0.5sq inch which the driver wont let you do nor I don't think anyone here has that kind of motor control.
Tablet Settings
These are my tablet's settings. 0.95 x 0.6 = 0.57 sq inches. My skill hasn't reach yet the limits of the tablet and it still feels really responsive and smooth. And it's just a Trust Mini Tablet, which costs around 20€, not an expensive Wacom tablet.

Of course, I'm still far from being a top Osu! player (actually I consider myself a newbie), but since I've bought my tablet 2 months ago (when I've hit a brick wall playing with a mouse around rank #12000) I'm using these settings and I'm now at rank ~#2000 and the tablet still keeps up with my speed, while I'm still improving day by day in a noticeable pace.

Anyway, I don't know if a Wacom tablet makes a difference at top ranks, but until now I haven't felt the need for a better tablet. And I still can increase my active area if I experience any problems with the tablet's accuracy. So, my opinion thus far is that lpi doesn't matter for Osu!, even while using a small active area.

Just my 2c.

Replays
Also here are some replays of mine on maps with some jumps, in case anyone wishes to see how this small active area plays out:

SYNC.ART'S feat. Sakaue Nachi - Taketori Hishou [Lunatic]
Hatsuki Yura - HAMELN [Insane]
RSP - Sakura ~Anata ni Deaete Yokatta~ [Hard]
Hikaru Genji - Yuuki 100% [Frantic]
RBRat3
osu!painter
762 posts
Joined April 2010
RBRat3
That was only in reference to wacom tablets specifically, It has no meaning on non wacom products.
Marblehead
22 posts
Joined November 2011
Marblehead

RBRat3 wrote:

That was only in reference to wacom tablets specifically, It has no meaning on non wacom products.
My point was that lpi doesn't matter for Osu! regardless the tablet (from my experience). Maybe I didn't express myself correctly, but I wasn't trying to disagree with you. I just quoted you as a prologue to what I wanted to say.
K E R U
17 posts
Joined May 2012
K E R U
Can i use Wacom CTH461 Bamboo Craft Tablet ?
i mean is it going to be as good as Wacom Bamboo Pen Tablet 2nd g?

and thanks for the guide :lol:
DJKero
231 posts
Here since the beginning
DJKero

Kennjin wrote:

Can I also become one of the top players without a tablet or is that impossible with mouse and keyboard ?
Yeah, if you practice enough, you can... see how Silvia plays: http://osu.ppy.sh/u/silvia 8-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_iFMpiqlkQ ;)
Miyu
1,283 posts
Joined September 2012
Miyu
i have the exactly same tablet of the second generation one yet my pen kind of teleports on the game sometime. but besides that its great to play with
Bweh
486 posts
Joined September 2012
Bweh

UltimateZio wrote:

Can i use Wacom CTH461 Bamboo Craft Tablet ?
i mean is it going to be as good as Wacom Bamboo Pen Tablet 2nd g?

and thanks for the guide :lol:
I've used different kinds of Wacom tablets and I can tell you that most tablets will function pretty much the same in osu! and you shouldn't worry about it. The only palpable differences would be the tablet's size, dimensions, and durability, all of which you can get used to or touch up in the tablet's properties tab. Other than that (i.e. buttons, pressure features, different kinds of nibs) shouldn't affect you unless you use Wacom products for digital art.
DieOrYouWillDie
47 posts
Joined March 2012
DieOrYouWillDie
Is this a good tablet for playing osu?
-Soba-
374 posts
Joined January 2011
-Soba-
intuos4 small, best
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West

DieOrYouWillDie wrote:

Is this a good tablet for playing osu?
I have this, and yes I do believe it is the cheapest Wacom product in the current line and is good for osu!
ApolloFortyNine
13 posts
Joined August 2012
ApolloFortyNine
If your looking for a cheap osu tablet, the following is a great choice: http://www.amazon.com/uDraw-Game-tablet ... ords=udraw

If you buy the ps3 version, you can install drivers that allow you to use it as a mouse on PC. (here http://brandonw.net/udraw/ ) It works perfectly, and though I am shit tier at osu, [ Depression ] was able to use it as well (roommates) and was able to do well with it. Of course we each have wacom tablets, which are obviously better than this cheap tablet.

Oh yea, its $12.

Worth it if you've ever wanted to try out a tablet.
Phantasyy
27 posts
Joined October 2012
Phantasyy
Just wondering
If I buy the Bamboo mte-450, will there be much of a difference to the CTL-470?
Also, if I buy a pen made for the CTL-470 (GEN 3) will it also work for the mte-450 (GEN 1)?
Thanks
Kanye West
2,222 posts
Joined July 2011
Kanye West
Has anyone tried playing osu! on a cintiq? I know it's way too expensive and impractical but just wondering if anyone's ever gotten to try one.
Phantasyy
27 posts
Joined October 2012
Phantasyy

Phantasyy wrote:

Just wondering
If I buy the Bamboo mte-450, will there be much of a difference to the CTL-470?
Also, if I buy a pen made for the CTL-470 (GEN 3) will it also work for the mte-450 (GEN 1)?
Thanks
To all those asking the same question
All GEN pen's are only compatible with the tablet they're made for
IppE
IppE

Kanye West wrote:

Has anyone tried playing osu! on a cintiq? I know it's way too expensive and impractical but just wondering if anyone's ever gotten to try one.
They have quite a bit of input lag, so I don't know how viable it is. Maybe if you set the universal offset just right.
-Soul-_old
10 posts
Joined November 2012
-Soul-_old
Does anyone have any experience with this?

http://www.amazon.com/PenPad-7-7-Inch-G ... =vt+penpad

I'm currently using it, not doing to great so far... Wondering if it's because I bought a cheaper tablet, or if It's just me adjusting to it.

I'll give it a week or two to see which case it is.
andromeda2020
59 posts
Joined December 2012
andromeda2020
Bamboo manga is it ok for playing osu?
Flanster
5,938 posts
Joined August 2010
Flanster

Gnarwhally wrote:

Does anyone have any experience with this?

http://www.amazon.com/PenPad-7-7-Inch-G ... =vt+penpad

I'm currently using it, not doing to great so far... Wondering if it's because I bought a cheaper tablet, or if It's just me adjusting to it.

I'll give it a week or two to see which case it is.
Just because its not Wacom doesn't mean its shit and worthless. Just get used to it for now yeah.
Bonobo
32 posts
Joined December 2012
Bonobo
Has anyone had good experiences with the bamboo splash? It's the only one I can find in canada for under 100 by wacom.
I also found the bamboo capture for 85$, the splash I can get for 61$ with tax, is the capture worth the extra 24$ or are they basically the same?
-Soul-_old
10 posts
Joined November 2012
-Soul-_old

faggotfaggot wrote:

Has anyone had good experiences with the bamboo splash? It's the only one I can find in canada for under 100 by wacom.
I also found the bamboo capture for 85$, the splash I can get for 61$ with tax, is the capture worth the extra 24$ or are they basically the same?
It doesn't really matter, I'm using a 30$ tablet, with no major issues.

The only advantage that tablets have for Osu! Is that they feature absolute tracking, in higher end tablets they may be more accurate in terms of pressure etc. which is useful for art applications but useless for Osu!...

Bamboo Splash would be a good choice, it has everything you need, and all the features that are useful for Osu! gameplay without the cost of the higher end models.

Good hover distance
Area change on tablet (on my tablet I have to change my screens resolution, which is annoying)
No latency issues.
Bonobo
32 posts
Joined December 2012
Bonobo

Gnarwhally wrote:

faggotfaggot wrote:

Has anyone had good experiences with the bamboo splash? It's the only one I can find in canada for under 100 by wacom.
I also found the bamboo capture for 85$, the splash I can get for 61$ with tax, is the capture worth the extra 24$ or are they basically the same?
It doesn't really matter, I'm using a 30$ tablet, with no major issues.

The only advantage that tablets have for Osu! Is that they feature absolute tracking, in higher end tablets they may be more accurate in terms of pressure etc. which is useful for art applications but useless for Osu!...

Bamboo Splash would be a good choice, it has everything you need, and all the features that are useful for Osu! gameplay without the cost of the higher end models.

Good hover distance
Area change on tablet (on my tablet I have to change my screens resolution, which is annoying)
No latency issues.
Alright thanks a lot, you saved me 20$ as a student :P
Naccer
10 posts
Joined January 2013
Naccer
I live in europe, and I cant buy the Splash or other products that were in OP's topic,

So my question is :

Is the Bamboo Pen and Touch as good as the 99 dollar equivalent Bamboo or is it totally different?
Also what is the difference between the Pen and touch and the Fun S pen and touch?

http://nl.shop.wacom.eu/Producten/Bamboo

Thanks in regards :)
Fivas_old
2 posts
Joined July 2011
Fivas_old
I purchased a 'Bamboo Pen' tablet yesterday. I hope it arrives soon!

It arrived! but I'm currently staying at my boyfriend's, so I won't be able to try it out until Saturday. I can post what I think about the tablet then if anyone is interested in buying that model.
Yousoro
105 posts
Joined March 2013
Yousoro
What a wonderful guide explaining tablets! I may consider buying a tablet :)
Fivas_old
2 posts
Joined July 2011
Fivas_old
I've been using my tablet for a couple of days now and it hasn't exactly been a pleasant experience, I find it very difficult to get used to (which is understandable) and I've been noticing the cursor gets jittery when the pen nib comes into light or quick contact with the tablet. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
clericlaw
7 posts
Joined December 2012
clericlaw
anyone know how this would fare?
http://dx.com/p/huion-usb-graphics-draw ... x-5-118085
FlyingKiwi
139 posts
Joined June 2011
FlyingKiwi
I should save my money for a tablet now...
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