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All Levels at Once - Fluttershy's Lament

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Topic Starter
TheVileOne
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, May 21, 2014 at 8:51:22 PM

Artist: All Levels at Once
Title: Fluttershy's Lament
Tags: AkonFreak my little pony MLP FIM friendship magic brony
BPM: 128
Filesize: 18553kb
Play Time: 03:52
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.73 stars, 234 notes)
  2. Hard (4.98 stars, 539 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 578 notes)
  4. Normal (3.64 stars, 275 notes)
Download: All Levels at Once - Fluttershy's Lament
Download: All Levels at Once - Fluttershy's Lament (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Redownload if you downloaded before 8/30/12.
Download Akon's Hard here http://www.mediafire.com/download/49de3eq9w5lde1j/
Hitsounding:
They should be fine. I'm still working out finish consistency.
Changelog
5/22/12 Changed several things in Normal
5/28/12 Finished mapping to the end of Insane
5/29/12 Fixed many patterns in Insane
5/30/12 Mapped Easy
6/14/12 Added hitsounds to Easy
6/28/12 Added AkonFreak's Hard, Hitsounds finished on Easy
7/4/12 Remapped some bits of Normal
7/7/12 Added more hitsounds to Hard, add kiai to all difficulties
7/17/12 Fixed up a lot of the hitsounds.
7/18/12 Cleaned up Hard
7/19/12 Small tweaks
7/21/12 Fixed Video offset
8/10/12 Cleaned up some patterns in Normal
8/30/12 Fixed lots of issues, removed audio from video
8/31/12 More issues taken care of
9/2/12 Changes to Hard
9/7/12 Some parts changed in Insane
9/28/12 Akon's difficulty updated
9/29/12 More adjustments to Akon's difficulty
9/30/12 Fixes continue for Akon's difficulty
10/8/12 Improvements to Easy and Normal
10/12/12 Flow has been adjusted in certain areas in Hard
11/12/12 Akon's difficulty updated
11/26/12 Pattern updates and large improvements to hitsounds in Easy
12/5/12 Pattern and Hitsound improvements to Normal
8/3/13 Small hitsound adjust to Easy
8/4/13 Finished adjusting hitsounds in Easy, pattern and hitsound adjustments to Normal
8/4/13 Changes made to hard, video offset changed
8/8/13 Slight adjustments to Hard and begun updates to Insane
8/15/13 More hitsound and pattern fixes to Easy
8/16/13 Sampleset improvements to Normal and slight pattern fixes/ Akonfreak fixes
8/17/13 Hitsounds and pattern adjustments to Hard/various changes to Insane
8/19/13 Hitsound approvements and some slider shape adjustments to Easy/ Remapped intro patterns in Normal (again) and other minor fixes.
8/23/13 Several patterns changed for hard, including a few more longer sliders at the start, and a slight remap to kiais.
8/28/13 Overhauled many patterns in Insane, plus sampleset fixes, change BPM to 128.00
8/28/13 Improvements to Easy and Normal
8/29/13 Resnapped green lines/preview point in all difficulties/Much needed spacing and pattern improvements to Akon's diff
8/30/13 Finish initial remapping of akon's difficulty (expect more changes as I continue to polish that map)
9/2/13 Pattern changes to Hard
9/18/13 Improved first kiai pattern structure and flow as well as another problem area in Insane
9/19/13 Large pattern changes made to Insane. Expect more jumps and less triples.
9/20/13 More pattern updates to Insane
9/23/13 Easy/ Normal pattern improvements
10/1/13 Improved flow in spots and cleaned up a few patterns in Insane
10/8/13 Larger circle sizes and other small changes
10/11/13 Changed more things in Akon's difficulty.
10/19/13 Pattern changes in Easy
4/22/14 Pattern updates to Insane.
4/27/14 Insane remap process began
4/28/14 Changes to Insane continue
5/20/14 Removed Akon's Hard
5/20/14 Flow and pattern improvements to Insane
Stefan
P-P-Ponieeeeeeees OДo
Behon
Normal:
00:20:655 (1): Get rid of new combo?
01:25:337 (1): Same here.
02:09:396 (1): Consider ending this slider 1/4 of a beat earlier to match the lyric.
02:13:146 (2): Same here.

Hard:
01:38:930 (4): Consider moving this 1/4 a beat earlier to match the lyric.

Insane:
00:23:936 (6): See above. There are other examples of this for the same repeated lyric (Sounds like "I knew a champion" or something).
02:06:350 - 02:36:816: Waaaay too long a break.
Topic Starter
TheVileOne
It's actually a WIP. I'm slowly filling in the gaps in Insane. Although Normal and Hard are pretty much mod ready.


Edit: All standard diffs are mod ready.
Crimmi
Modding, CrimmiStyle!!!

Mod 4 Mod Request accepted!

[General]

Like I said in IRC, there are inconsistancies within the tags with Taiko, Easy & Insane missing "collab" in them.
There isn't a preview point set in Taiko.

Note, I might do some Hitsound nazimodding, so bear in mind that you can ignore them if you wish.

[Easy]

02:00:024 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.

00:15:030 (1) - Maybe add Finish?
00:28:154 (3) - ^
00:31:435 (2) - Add a clap?
00:32:373 (3) - ^
00:36:122 (2) - ^
00:45:028 (x) - I don't think an extra note here wouldn't hurt would it?
01:31:431 (1) - Clap on the end of the slider?
01:31:899 (2) - ^
01:34:243 (4) - ^
01:37:524 (3) - ^
01:38:930 (3) - ^
01:40:805 (5) - Clap?
01:41:742 (1) - ^
01:42:680 (2) - ^
01:45:023 (1) - Finish?
01:46:429 (3) - Add a clap?
01:47:367 (4) - ^
01:48:304 (1) - Clap on the end of the slider?
01:49:242 (2) - ^
01:49:945 (3) - ^
01:54:398 (4) - ^
01:55:335 (1) - Add clap on the repeat.
01:56:741 (2) - Clap?
02:07:990 (3) - Add clap at the end of the slider.
02:30:020 (7) - Add finish?
02:44:316 (4) - Make this slider longer by 1/4.
03:00:486 (1,2) - Add clap?
03:01:892 (3) - Add clap on the 1st repeat & the end of the slider.
03:05:173 (2) - Add clap?
03:06:579 (4) - Add clap at the end of the slider?
03:07:517 (5) - Add finish?
03:08:923 (2) - Add clap.
03:10:329 (4) - Add clap at the end of the slider?
03:12:673 (2) - Add clap.
03:15:016 (x) - Add note?
03:22:984 (2) - Add clap?
03:23:453 (3,4,5) - Add claps at the end of these sliders.
03:35:640 (3) - Add finish?
03:37:983 (2) - Add clap?
03:38:452 (3,4,1,2) - Add claps at the end of these sliders.
03:42:436 (3) - Add clap?
03:46:420 (6) - Add clap at the end of the slider?
03:47:357 (2) - Add clap?
03:47:826 (3) - Add clap at the repeat.
03:49:232 (1,2,3,4) - Add clap?


[Normal]

02:00:024 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.

00:25:811 (3) - add a clap?
00:30:029 (1) - Add finish?
00:37:529 (1) - ^
00:43:153 (2) - ^
00:45:028 (x) - I don't think an extra note here wouldn't hurt would it?
00:52:527 (3) - Add finish?
00:53:465 (4) - Add clap at the end of the slider?
00:55:105 (2) - Add clap?
00:55:574 (3) - Add clap on the 1st repeat of the slider.
00:57:215 (7) - Add clap at the end of the slider.
00:58:855 (2) - Add clap?
01:15:026 (1) - Add finish?
01:18:307 (2) - Add clap?
01:20:650 (4) - Add clap at the end of this slider.
01:22:056 (6) - Add clap?
01:22:525 (1) - Add finish?
01:56:741 (2,3) - Add clap?
02:00:022 (x) - I don't think an extra note here wouldn't hurt would it?
02:07:522 (3) - Add clap at the end of this slider.
02:08:459 (4) - ^
02:10:099 (2) - Add clap?
02:10:568 (3) - Add clap at repeat?
02:12:209 (7) - Add clap at the end of this slider.
02:13:849 (2) - Add clap.
02:45:019 (x) - I don't think an extra note here wouldn't hurt would it?
02:51:815 (2) - Replace with a short slider?
03:00:486 (3) - Add clap?
03:01:424 (4) - ^
03:01:424 (4) - ^
03:02:127 (5,6) - Add claps at the end of these sliders.
03:05:173 (2) - Add clap?
03:07:986 (1) - ^
03:08:923 (3,4) - ^
03:11:735 (1) - ^
03:12:673 (2,4,6) - ^
03:30:484 (2) - ^
03:30:953 (3) - Add a clap at the end of the slider?
03:32:359 (5) - Add clap?
03:49:232 (4,5) - Add clap?
03:51:107 (1) - This spinner ends the song quite awkardly, shorten it to 03:52:513.

[Hard]

00:14:970 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.
01:29:970 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.

00:30:029 (1) - Add a clap at the end of the slider?
00:31:435 (4) - Add clap?
00:31:904 (5) - Add a clap at the end of the slider?
00:33:310 (4) - Add clap?
00:34:248 (6) - ^
00:35:185 (1) - ^
00:45:028 (x) - I don't think an extra note here wouldn't hurt would it?
00:53:934 (3) - Add clap?
00:54:871 (6) - ^
00:57:683 (3) - ^

[Insane]

The kiai is missing in this diff.

00:14:970 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.
00:27:865 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.
Topic Starter
TheVileOne
Thanks for your help. I might have to do some serious reconsiderations of the beat.

Crimmi wrote:

Modding, CrimmiStyle!!!

Mod 4 Mod Request accepted!

[General]

Like I said in IRC, there are inconsistancies within the tags with Taiko, Easy & Insane missing "collab" in them.
There isn't a preview point set in Taiko. I'm remove BarnOwlLover,taiko, and collab from the tags until BarnOwlLover finishes his difficulty. It will be removed from the mapset

Note, I might do some Hitsound nazimodding, so bear in mind that you can ignore them if you wish.

[Easy]

02:00:024 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.

00:15:030 (1) - Maybe add Finish? Done.
00:28:154 (3) - ^^
00:31:435 (2) - Add a clap? Done
00:32:373 (3) - ^
00:36:122 (2) - ^
00:45:028 (x) - I don't think an extra note here wouldn't hurt would it? Added
01:31:431 (1) - Clap on the end of the slider? Done
01:31:899 (2) - ^
01:34:243 (4) - ^
01:37:524 (3) - ^
01:38:930 (3) - ^
01:40:805 (5) - Clap? all done
01:41:742 (1) - ^
01:42:680 (2) - ^
01:45:023 (1) - Finish?all done
01:46:429 (3) - Add a clap? Done, will be modifying the volumes to make it fit better.
01:47:367 (4) - ^
01:48:304 (1) - Clap on the end of the slider?
01:49:242 (2) - ^
01:49:945 (3) - ^
01:54:398 (4) - ^
01:55:335 (1) - Add clap on the repeat.
01:56:741 (2) - Clap?all done
02:07:990 (3) - Add clap at the end of the slider.
02:30:020 (7) - Add finish? all done
02:44:316 (4) - Make this slider longer by 1/4. Done i guess
03:00:486 (1,2) - Add clap?
03:01:892 (3) - Add clap on the 1st repeat & the end of the slider.
03:05:173 (2) - Add clap?
03:06:579 (4) - Add clap at the end of the slider?
03:07:517 (5) - Add finish?
03:08:923 (2) - Add clap.
03:10:329 (4) - Add clap at the end of the slider?
03:12:673 (2) - Add clap.
03:15:016 (x) - Add note?All done
03:22:984 (2) - Add clap?
03:23:453 (3,4,5) - Add claps at the end of these sliders.
03:35:640 (3) - Add finish? all done
03:37:983 (2) - Add clap?eh doesn't seem to fit
03:38:452 (3,4,1,2) - Add claps at the end of these sliders. ^
03:42:436 (3) - Add clap?
03:46:420 (6) - Add clap at the end of the slider?
03:47:357 (2) - Add clap?
03:47:826 (3) - Add clap at the repeat.
03:49:232 (1,2,3,4) - Add clap?I have some hitsounds applied to the end. I will give a closer look later.


[Normal]

02:00:024 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.

00:25:811 (3) - add a clap?
00:30:029 (1) - Add finish?
00:37:529 (1) - ^
00:43:153 (2) - ^
00:45:028 (x) - I don't think an extra note here wouldn't hurt would it?
00:52:527 (3) - Add finish?
00:53:465 (4) - Add clap at the end of the slider?
00:55:105 (2) - Add clap?
00:55:574 (3) - Add clap on the 1st repeat of the slider.
00:57:215 (7) - Add clap at the end of the slider.
00:58:855 (2) - Add clap?
01:15:026 (1) - Add finish?
01:18:307 (2) - Add clap?
01:20:650 (4) - Add clap at the end of this slider.
01:22:056 (6) - Add clap?
01:22:525 (1) - Add finish?
01:56:741 (2,3) - Add clap?
02:00:022 (x) - I don't think an extra note here wouldn't hurt would it?
02:07:522 (3) - Add clap at the end of this slider.
02:08:459 (4) - ^
02:10:099 (2) - Add clap?
02:10:568 (3) - Add clap at repeat?
02:12:209 (7) - Add clap at the end of this slider.
02:13:849 (2) - Add clap.
02:45:019 (x) - I don't think an extra note here wouldn't hurt would it?
02:51:815 (2) - Replace with a short slider?
03:00:486 (3) - Add clap?
03:01:424 (4) - ^
03:01:424 (4) - ^
03:02:127 (5,6) - Add claps at the end of these sliders.
03:05:173 (2) - Add clap?
03:07:986 (1) - ^
03:08:923 (3,4) - ^
03:11:735 (1) - ^
03:12:673 (2,4,6) - ^
03:30:484 (2) - ^
03:30:953 (3) - Add a clap at the end of the slider?
03:32:359 (5) - Add clap?
03:49:232 (4,5) - Add clap?
03:51:107 (1) - This spinner ends the song quite awkardly, shorten it to 03:52:513.

[Hard]

00:14:970 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.
01:29:970 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.

00:30:029 (1) - Add a clap at the end of the slider?
00:31:435 (4) - Add clap?
00:31:904 (5) - Add a clap at the end of the slider?
00:33:310 (4) - Add clap?
00:34:248 (6) - ^
00:35:185 (1) - ^
00:45:028 (x) - I don't think an extra note here wouldn't hurt would it?
00:53:934 (3) - Add clap?
00:54:871 (6) - ^
00:57:683 (3) - ^

[Insane]

The kiai is missing in this diff.

00:14:970 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.
00:27:865 - Unsnapped inherited timing point.
Kokatsu
Okay, let's finish this :)

IRC mod for Vile's diffs
00:35 Kokatsu: : hey there :)
00:35 TheVileOne: : hai
00:35 Kokatsu: : wantet to request mod /m4m~
00:36 TheVileOne: : sure
00:36 Kokatsu: : you pref m4m so want my mod done first?
00:37 Kokatsu: : or is it ok if i start now and get it done by..later or tomorrow?
00:38 Kokatsu: : just tell me if you want a mod on a specific map :)
00:39 TheVileOne: : what do you need me to mod
00:39 : *Kokatsu is listening to (Otokaze - Snow Campus)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/53051]
00:39 Kokatsu: : 3+1taiko
00:40 Kokatsu: : so you want something special modded? :D
00:41 Kokatsu: : otherwise i would go for one of the maps with lowest sp
00:41 TheVileOne: : is hyper a Hard or insane
00:41 Kokatsu: : hard
00:41 Kokatsu: : i normally feel like hyper's are more hard-ish than insane
00:42 TheVileOne: : doesn't matter to me which map you mod
00:42 Kokatsu: : ok, i'll go for the mlp one :D
00:43 TheVileOne: : alright
00:44 Kokatsu: : if you want, we can do irc 2
00:52 TheVileOne: : ok
00:52 Kokatsu: : aah, just started forum, but i can swap xD
00:52 Kokatsu: : ok, you didn't check aibat b4 submit :p so there are some general settings
00:53 Kokatsu: : the one bg got weirdo seizure
00:53 Kokatsu: : fluttershy-and-butterfly-fluttershy-27666700-900-895.jpg
00:54 Kokatsu: : not dramatic
00:54 TheVileOne: : weird whaT
00:54 Kokatsu: : it's 772x767
00:54 TheVileOne: : And?
00:55 Kokatsu: : just wantet to mention :x
00:55 Kokatsu: : combocolours are not the same in all diffs
00:55 TheVileOne: : I know.
00:55 Kokatsu: : it's ok, since gd got other
00:55 Kokatsu: : but i pref set combocolour
00:56 Kokatsu: : but up to you ofc
00:56 Kokatsu: : then inconsistency in kiai, try to make them at least the same in your diffs
00:57 TheVileOne: : hmm it's not consistent?
00:57 Kokatsu: : http://puu.sh/JpnG
00:57 Kokatsu: : you got break in easy and normal, hard/insane dont have that
00:59 Kokatsu: : then loads of unsnapped green sections across all diffs
00:59 Kokatsu: : tell me when we can continue :D
00:59 TheVileOne: : oh yeah i remember, i wanted the kiai fountain to reappear when the section changed
00:59 TheVileOne: : ill fix it
00:59 Kokatsu: : :)
01:02 Kokatsu: : ok, continue?
01:02 TheVileOne: : hmmm ill check the green lines and fix them
01:02 TheVileOne: : okay
01:02 TheVileOne: : go
01:02 Kokatsu: : akon's hard : 00:22:039 -
01:02 Kokatsu: : unsnapped green
01:02 Kokatsu: : 00:22:039 -
01:02 Kokatsu: : this one 2
01:03 Kokatsu: : easy: 00:30:017 -
01:03 Kokatsu: : insane: 00:27:865 -
01:03 TheVileOne: : fixed
01:03 Kokatsu: : and normal: 02:00:024 - 02:15:008 -
01:03 Kokatsu: : 02:15:008 -
01:05 TheVileOne: : okay
01:06 Kokatsu: : thats all for general
01:06 Kokatsu: : start with easy mapping?
01:06 Kokatsu: : ah maybe something general: remove all bookmarks?
01:08 TheVileOne: : gwhy
01:08 Kokatsu: : decrease size
01:08 TheVileOne: : how do bookmarks decrease size in anyway
01:08 Kokatsu: : bookmarks are saved as code in the .osu
01:09 Kokatsu: : more letters -> greater size
01:09 Kokatsu: : was just a suggestion anyways D:
01:09 TheVileOne: : ok
01:10 Kokatsu: : continue with easy:
01:10 Kokatsu: : 00:23:467 (2,3) - copy and paste/flip?
01:10 Kokatsu: : and then copy 3 for the following 2?
01:12 TheVileOne: : 2,3 are already a mirror?
01:12 Kokatsu: : ctrl+h+j on that?
01:12 Kokatsu: : ok
01:13 Kokatsu: : 00:30:029 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - you flip hitsounds here (from clap on 2/4 to 1/3)
01:14 Kokatsu: : would make the first 1 half that long with reverse and continue hitsounding as b4, since the way you got it atm
01:14 Kokatsu: : is weirdo
01:14 Kokatsu: : imo
01:15 TheVileOne: : good catch
01:15 Kokatsu: : :)
01:16 Kokatsu: : 00:56:043 (3) - bit hard to catch for a newbie imo, would move this to next white tick
01:18 Kokatsu: : if you do so, it would also fit to remove 00:59:792 (3) -
01:18 TheVileOne: : fine.
01:19 TheVileOne: : fixed
01:19 Kokatsu: : 01:18:307 (1) - clap on beginning?
01:20 Kokatsu: : 01:21:588 (2) - clap on reverse?
01:20 Kokatsu: : just to keep it consistent :D
01:21 TheVileOne: : done
01:22 Kokatsu: : :)
01:22 Kokatsu: : 01:26:743 (1) - is there a deeper sense in this spinner?
01:22 TheVileOne: : i was lazy there and didn't feel like mapping it
01:22 Kokatsu: : it feels more like it should start at 01:28:150 -
01:22 Kokatsu: : would fit for that part
01:24 Kokatsu: : do doublereverse for the empty part if you are lazy ;D
01:25 TheVileOne: : i feel spinner is too short now
01:25 Kokatsu: : 2seconds, hm
01:25 TheVileOne: : moderate beginner spin doesn't even get a bonus
01:26 Kokatsu: : if you dislike the short one, stay the way it was
01:27 Kokatsu: : uhm, why do you do this "louder-quieter" stuff at 01:30:493 - only there?
01:28 TheVileOne: : you mean soft Normal?
01:28 Kokatsu: : yea
01:28 Kokatsu: : sorry
01:29 TheVileOne: : I was fixing the hitsounds and I liked how soft/normal sounded
01:29 Kokatsu: : hm, ok
01:30 Kokatsu: : 01:39:399 (4) - i feel this slider is a bit too curvy for the part
01:30 Kokatsu: : move 2cnd slidertick 1grid right? :x
01:30 Kokatsu: : (nazi) <__<
01:30 TheVileOne: : I will probably ewxtend the normal/soft pattern until the break
01:30 TheVileOne: : there
01:30 TheVileOne: : extend
01:30 Kokatsu: : :D okay
01:30 Kokatsu: : would be nice to have that consistent ;)
01:31 TheVileOne: : but it's curved like the other sliderS?
01:31 Kokatsu: : just as said, it feels like it's more curvy :x
01:32 TheVileOne: : I sense a why the hell didn't you put a hitsound here coming up
01:32 TheVileOne: : :p
01:32 Kokatsu: : yes
01:32 Kokatsu: : idd :>
01:32 Kokatsu: : 01:45:492 (2) -
01:32 Kokatsu: : clap
01:32 Kokatsu: : oh, you know what you can do with the slider following?
01:33 TheVileOne: : delete it
01:33 Kokatsu: : maybe get that soft/normal-sliderslide with normal clap?
01:33 Kokatsu: : so you can stay with those longer sliders?
01:33 Kokatsu: : just an idea
01:34 Kokatsu: : 01:49:242 (2) - aww, clap on start, not on ending D:
01:35 TheVileOne: : broke up that slider
01:35 TheVileOne: : sounded bad
01:35 Kokatsu: : thats why the customsound idea came up ;)
01:35 TheVileOne: : still would sound bad
01:36 Kokatsu: : :( but the clap! :o
01:37 Kokatsu: : but if you don't want, only suggestions here ;D
01:37 Kokatsu: : ah, missed an overlap
01:37 Kokatsu: : 01:45:492 (2) -
01:38 TheVileOne: : fixed already
01:38 Kokatsu: : ok :)
01:39 Kokatsu: : 01:50:648 (1,2,3,4,5) - unhappy with the hitsounding :<
01:39 Kokatsu: : it's more or less random :x
01:40 Kokatsu: : 1 is fine
01:40 Kokatsu: : but after that the normal clap on 2/4 would fit better imo
01:41 TheVileOne: : im not changing those sliders
01:41 Kokatsu: : ok :(
01:41 Kokatsu: : ah, btw, maybe reduce drain or od by 1?
01:42 Kokatsu: : 02:11:037 (3) - next white tick
01:42 Kokatsu: : 02:14:787 (3) - delete ;D
01:44 Kokatsu: : 02:43:378 (3) - make this like 1 and 2 b4 since it's the same going on in the music?
01:44 TheVileOne: : fixed and why
01:44 Kokatsu: : what why?
01:44 TheVileOne: : why lower drain
01:45 Kokatsu: : both 3 seems a bit high imo :/
01:45 Kokatsu: : but stay if you want
01:45 Kokatsu: : 02:44:316 (4) - i guess this should end one tick later?
01:46 TheVileOne: : but it sounds better on the blue tick
01:47 Kokatsu: : add finish and let end on the white tick
01:47 Kokatsu: : sounds better imo
01:48 TheVileOne: : done, played better on the blue tick though
01:48 Kokatsu: : :p
01:48 TheVileOne: : i want to move back
01:48 Kokatsu: : feel free :DD
01:48 Kokatsu: : it's just a suggestion :D
01:49 Kokatsu: : 02:51:581 (1,2) - i would do something else here, since
01:49 Kokatsu: : there is a nasty clap on 02:52:049 - in the music
01:49 Kokatsu: : it feels so irritateing q__q
01:50 TheVileOne: : there's no issue here. no way you could mishit because of it
01:50 Kokatsu: : just wantet to mention :x
01:50 Kokatsu: : 02:58:611 (4) - feels better with 2cnd waypoint more centerd
01:52 Kokatsu: : 03:19:469 (1) - uh, should end on next white tick, but the distance to the next note is too small then :x
01:53 Kokatsu: : nvm, is ok this way
01:53 Kokatsu: : just dont listen to my trashtalk :x
01:53 TheVileOne: : i wanted to have enough space for the spinner
01:53 Kokatsu: : 03:25:328 (4) - for my likes too close to 3
01:53 Kokatsu: : yea
01:54 TheVileOne: : while not making the break to short
01:54 Kokatsu: : as mentioned, it's ok
01:54 Kokatsu: : can't change it in a better way ;D
01:56 TheVileOne: : had to shift a lot of notes down to fix
01:56 Kokatsu: : sorry :x
01:57 Kokatsu: : 03:47:357 (4) - uh, centered curve? :x
01:57 Kokatsu: : and 2 overlaps with that one :3
01:57 TheVileOne: : 01:45:961 (3) - not going to complain about this eh
01:57 TheVileOne: : 03:40:327 (1) -
01:57 TheVileOne: : wtf
01:57 TheVileOne: : i copy and it doesn't cop[y
01:58 Kokatsu: : why should i complain about that one?
01:58 Kokatsu: : i know that you won't make half as long an reverse :p
01:58 Kokatsu: : you didnt with the last 3 one's
01:59 Kokatsu: : i gave up q__q
01:59 Kokatsu: : but if you want, i can still remind you, so you can refuse ;D
02:00 TheVileOne: : broke it up
02:00 Kokatsu: : wow :D
02:00 Kokatsu: : 03:45:483 (2,3) - spaceing? D:
02:01 Kokatsu: : or did i mess that up?
02:03 TheVileOne: : oh i consistently changed the spacing to 1.5 through here
02:03 Kokatsu: : :D
02:03 TheVileOne: : ill tone it down
02:03 TheVileOne: : I think it's a bit far to reach
02:03 Kokatsu: : yea ;)
02:04 Kokatsu: : 03:50:170 (3,4,5) - sorry that i want to break up ur nice square, but delete all, set note at 3's current
02:04 Kokatsu: : startposition and add spinner for the rest duration?
02:04 Kokatsu: : http://puu.sh/Jqn6 like this?
02:05 Kokatsu: : i'm fine with the rest :) moving on to next diff~
02:06 TheVileOne: : ???
02:06 Kokatsu: : "???" ?
02:06 Kokatsu: : what? :D
02:07 Kokatsu: : mind if i go smoking? takes 5mins
02:08 Kokatsu: : brb
02:09 TheVileOne: : okay
02:14 Kokatsu: : ok, normal now
02:14 TheVileOne: : okay
02:15 Kokatsu: : 00:40:810 (4,5) - they barely touch :x
02:15 Kokatsu: : 00:52:527 (3) - add clap on ending?
02:16 TheVileOne: : fixed first one
02:16 TheVileOne: : done
02:16 Kokatsu: : 01:01:667 (4) - uhm, unsure about kicksliders in normal
02:17 Kokatsu: : maybe just make it non-reverse and increase by 1tick?
02:17 Kokatsu: : 01:07:292 (6) - same
02:18 Kokatsu: : 01:14:557 (6) - ^
02:19 Kokatsu: : 01:21:119 (7,1) - copy/paste? :x
02:19 TheVileOne: : im not changing those sliders
02:19 Kokatsu: : ok
02:19 Kokatsu: : as mentioned, not sure about that
02:19 Kokatsu: : should be ok i guess
02:20 Kokatsu: : 01:35:649 (2,3) - they touch
02:20 Kokatsu: : 01:30:493 (1) - clap?
02:21 Kokatsu: : 01:46:429 (4) - ^
02:21 Kokatsu: : 01:47:367 (1) - ^ on start and ending?
02:22 Kokatsu: : 02:15:021 (1) - remove clap
02:22 Kokatsu: : 02:15:490 (2) - clap on start?
02:23 Kokatsu: : 02:22:286 (2) - remove clap on ending and add clap on 1?
02:24 TheVileOne: : done
02:24 Kokatsu: : 02:44:316 (4) - add one reverse and add finish on (new) ending
02:24 Kokatsu: : ?
02:25 Kokatsu: : 02:51:581 - uhm, either stick to no-claps or to 2/4 claps?
02:25 Kokatsu: : for that whole male-voice part?
02:26 Kokatsu: : 03:12:673 (2,3) - they are about to touch D:
02:27 Kokatsu: : 03:23:922 (2,4) - clap?
02:27 Kokatsu: : lol, no hitsounds after that point?
02:27 Kokatsu: : ah, there they are again
02:28 TheVileOne: : what
02:28 Kokatsu: : nothing
02:28 Kokatsu: : 03:49:232 (4,5) - copy/paste?
02:29 Kokatsu: : 03:51:107 (1) -
02:29 Kokatsu: : end here? 03:52:513 -
02:31 TheVileOne: : fixed hitsounds
02:31 Kokatsu: : :)
02:32 TheVileOne: : fixed 3:49
02:33 Kokatsu: : k, what about the spinner?
02:33 TheVileOne: : 513 is too short
02:33 Kokatsu: : hm, ok
02:34 TheVileOne: : spinning at the song's bpm only nets me 100 from the spinner
02:34 TheVileOne: : you shouldn't be forced to spin faster than the songs pacing
02:34 Kokatsu: : yea
02:34 Kokatsu: : but i dislike the endingpoint anyways
02:34 Kokatsu: : trying to find a better place to end q__q
02:34 Kokatsu: : 03:53:802 - sounds good to me
02:36 Kokatsu: : uhm, should i skip gd-hard?
02:37 TheVileOne: : 03:53:216 - is better
02:37 Kokatsu: : yea, fits :D
02:37 TheVileOne: : yes if you would post a mod for that
02:37 TheVileOne: : that probably needs more help than mine
02:37 Kokatsu: : :D
02:38 Kokatsu: : i can, but will do that tomorrow, it's 2:30 here :D
02:38 Kokatsu: : a.m.
02:38 Kokatsu: : gonna finish your diffs and then go to bed :D
02:38 TheVileOne: : okay
02:38 Kokatsu: : so hard now~
02:39 TheVileOne: : you're going to tell me im missing hitsounds a lot more often in the harder difficulties
02:39 Kokatsu: : yea, if i find them, i`ll tell you
02:39 Kokatsu: : am a bit dizzy myself atm, so i prolly wont catch them all
02:40 Kokatsu: : 00:17:374 (6) - looks like distance doesn't fit
02:41 Kokatsu: : 00:18:077 (2,3) - clap on 2's ending, remove clap from 3
02:41 TheVileOne: : meh ill keep for symmetry purposes
02:41 Kokatsu: : uh, ok :D
02:41 Kokatsu: : 00:19:483 (6) - remove clap
02:43 Kokatsu: : 00:53:465 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - seems quiet long, NC?
02:43 Kokatsu: : on 7?
02:44 Kokatsu: : 01:31:431 (5) - remove clap
02:44 TheVileOne: : added one on 6
02:45 Kokatsu: : or this way :p
02:45 Kokatsu: : 01:35:649 (1,3) - uhm, i would try this shape: http://puu.sh/JqX9
02:45 Kokatsu: : looks better imo
02:45 Kokatsu: : tell me if you want waypoints
02:46 Kokatsu: : 01:39:399 (6) - clap on ending
02:46 TheVileOne: : not removing clap
02:46 Kokatsu: : :<
02:47 Kokatsu: : 01:40:805 (2) - clap on start
02:47 TheVileOne: : i think my shape is fine
02:47 Kokatsu: : ok
02:48 Kokatsu: : 01:43:617 (5) - clap on start
02:48 TheVileOne: : done, done
02:48 Kokatsu: : 01:56:272 (3) - remove clap ?
02:49 TheVileOne: : done
02:49 Kokatsu: : 02:18:068 (7) - NC?
02:49 Kokatsu: : 02:20:646 (6) - NC?
02:51 TheVileOne: : i guess
02:51 Kokatsu: : 02:43:378 (2,3,4,5) - manually stack the whole thing on gridlvl 4
02:52 Kokatsu: : atm it's just weirdo
02:53 Kokatsu: : sry, internet crashed
02:53 TheVileOne: : testplay it
02:54 TheVileOne: : i saved your log
02:54 Kokatsu: : i did
02:54 TheVileOne: : looks fine to me
02:54 Kokatsu: : i feel it looks better when stacked manually
02:54 TheVileOne: : it is stacked manually
02:54 Kokatsu: : not the whole thing
02:55 Kokatsu: : see the difference if you go for a fully manual stack
02:55 TheVileOne: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/374300
02:55 TheVileOne: : stacked manually
02:56 TheVileOne: : im not changing
02:56 TheVileOne: : i don't like fully manual stacks
02:56 Kokatsu: : ok
02:56 Kokatsu: : 03:02:830 (3) - remove clap from ending=
02:56 Kokatsu: : 03:07:048 (8) - remove clap
02:57 TheVileOne: : not removing from 8
02:57 Kokatsu: : ok .<
02:58 Kokatsu: : 03:32:359 (3) - clap?
02:58 TheVileOne: : 03:04:002 (6,1) -
02:58 TheVileOne: : why did you not mentionm this
02:58 Kokatsu: : aw, lol
02:58 Kokatsu: : ctrl+r on 1 pls xD
02:59 Kokatsu: : a bit dizzy, as mentioned <__<
02:59 Kokatsu: : 03:34:234 (1,3) - finish?
03:00 Kokatsu: : 03:41:264 (6) - NC?
03:02 TheVileOne: : okay changed the combos through there
03:02 Kokatsu: : :)
03:02 Kokatsu: : uhm, compared to the insane, the difficultsettings are close to the same
03:02 Kokatsu: : reduce drain/od by 1?
03:02 TheVileOne: : hmm i don't like where that combo starts though
03:02 Kokatsu: : maybe move it to 7?
03:03 TheVileOne: : meh going back to old combos there
03:03 TheVileOne: : don't like it
03:03 Kokatsu: : ok ><
03:04 TheVileOne: : why do i need to change my difficulty settings
03:05 Kokatsu: : keep them if you want
03:05 Kokatsu: : just wantet to mention that
03:05 TheVileOne: : lowering od by 1 because it plays smoother
03:05 Kokatsu: : :)
03:05 TheVileOne: : But it doesn't affect star rating at all
03:06 TheVileOne: : if thats what you were trying to change
03:06 Kokatsu: : not about star rating
03:06 Kokatsu: : nono
03:06 Kokatsu: : just if you got hard and insane's settings are all just +1
03:06 Kokatsu: : it's not that bit deal
03:07 TheVileOne: : that's not uncommon to see that
03:07 TheVileOne: : ._.
03:07 Kokatsu: : ok .__.'
03:07 Kokatsu: : what did you do with the hitsounds on the insane? q__q
03:08 TheVileOne: : ignored them for the most part
03:08 Kokatsu: : kinda ;_;
03:08 Kokatsu: : 00:22:061 (1) - clap
03:08 Kokatsu: : 00:22:998 (5) - ^
03:08 Kokatsu: : 00:23:936 (8) - ^
03:08 Kokatsu: : 00:24:873 (5) - ^ (start)
03:09 Kokatsu: : 00:25:811 (2) - finish?
03:09 Kokatsu: : 00:26:748 (5) - clap
03:09 Kokatsu: : 00:27:686 (9) - clap (start)
03:10 Kokatsu: : 00:41:747 (1) - clap
03:10 Kokatsu: : 00:42:684 (3) - ^
03:10 Kokatsu: : 00:43:622 (3) - ^ (start)
03:10 TheVileOne: : not adding finish
03:10 Kokatsu: : 00:44:559 (5) - ^
03:10 Kokatsu: : :<
03:10 Kokatsu: : i like that finish
03:11 Kokatsu: : or maybe on 1 and 3?
03:11 Kokatsu: : you did that in other diffs 2
03:12 Kokatsu: : 01:04:480 (3,4) - spacing
03:12 TheVileOne: : not adding claps on the part before the break
03:12 Kokatsu: : okay :x
03:13 TheVileOne: : that spacing was intentional. Sooo?
03:13 Kokatsu: : it looks a bit too huge, compared to the other bigger spacings
03:14 TheVileOne: : how is it huge
03:14 TheVileOne: : 1.3 snap
03:14 Kokatsu: : just 1-2 grids q__q
03:14 Kokatsu: : if you dont want to change it, just tell me :D
03:14 Kokatsu: : it just striked my eye
03:15 TheVileOne: : i don't want to change
03:15 Kokatsu: : ;)
03:15 TheVileOne: : it plays well at 1.3
03:15 Kokatsu: : 01:27:564 (9) - remove clap from ending=
03:15 Kokatsu: : i know that it is on a 4, but it just doesn't fit IMO
03:16 TheVileOne: : done
03:16 Kokatsu: : 01:45:492 (4) - clap
03:16 Kokatsu: : 01:46:429 (7) - clap (start)
03:16 Kokatsu: : 01:47:367 (9) - ^
03:17 TheVileOne: : id prefer to not have hitsounds
03:18 Kokatsu: : ok ;)02:44:550 (7) -
03:18 Kokatsu: : you also dont want to use hitsounds in the following section?
03:18 TheVileOne: : there's no hitsounds to be put there
03:18 Kokatsu: : ok
03:18 TheVileOne: : 02:52:049 - notice i skip this sound
03:18 TheVileOne: : in like every difficulty
03:18 Kokatsu: : yea ;D
03:19 TheVileOne: : it's 1/8th
03:19 Kokatsu: : mentioned that in easy, as i tired to make 1/2 slider :D
03:20 TheVileOne: : 02:52:518 -
03:20 TheVileOne: : i like this part of the song
03:20 Kokatsu: : yea, i like the whole song :D
03:20 Kokatsu: : at first i was like "aw god, that's awful"
03:20 Kokatsu: : but after hearing it like
03:20 Kokatsu: : 10times by now
03:20 Kokatsu: : i actually like it :D
03:20 TheVileOne: : :o you thought this song was awful
03:21 Kokatsu: : nah, not awful
03:21 Kokatsu: : thats exaggerated
03:21 Kokatsu: : but i was a bit
03:21 Kokatsu: : meh
03:21 Kokatsu: : :D
03:21 Kokatsu: : hey, you know what that male-voice part reminds me of? D:
03:21 Kokatsu: : renard
03:22 TheVileOne: : he has a voice?
03:22 Kokatsu: : :DD
03:22 Kokatsu: : yea, he got parts like that 2
03:22 Kokatsu: : but lets finish mod first xD
03:22 Kokatsu: : can show you later :D
03:23 Kokatsu: : 03:26:734 (4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - no claps on 2/4 here=?
03:23 Kokatsu: : 03:32:827 (1,2,3) - I WANT DEM FINISHES!
03:23 Kokatsu: : on 2 or 1&3
03:24 TheVileOne: : fixed
03:24 Kokatsu: : 03:37:749 (2,3,4,5,6) - same here
03:24 Kokatsu: : (not finishes :D)
03:24 TheVileOne: : finish spam
03:24 TheVileOne: : >.<
03:24 Kokatsu: : !!!
03:24 Kokatsu: : FINISH HIM!!
03:25 TheVileOne: : no
03:25 Kokatsu: : :<
03:25 Kokatsu: : 03:45:951 (3) - you miss all 2/4 claps from here :D
03:25 Kokatsu: : 03:52:513 (6) - finish?
03:25 Kokatsu: : like
03:26 Kokatsu: : it's over
03:26 Kokatsu: : FINISH!
03:27 TheVileOne: : added
03:27 Kokatsu: : :) so we're done
03:27 TheVileOne: : great!1
03:27 Kokatsu: : just 3 hours xD

aand - as promised - extramod for:
[AkonFreak's Hard]
Hitsounds are waaaaay too loud, if you use "normal" sampleset, aim for a maximum of 70% (60-65% would be better though) and for soft something between 70-80%, however, I would recomment you to go for a full soft-sampleset
If i compare your difficultsetting with the mappingstyle you use, I sometimes feel like especially CS4 would fit much better, same for AR8
It seems like you swap in Spaceing every now and then by small ammounts, don't do that..recheck spacing on almost every part? D:
00:17:843 - add a note here, it feels empty
00:19:952 (1,2,3,4,5) - put 5 in line with 1-4 with the same spaceing, there is no sense in using hihher spacing on that note
00:22:998 (3,4,5) - why do you add triplet here? there is really nothing in the music that hints for a triplet.
00:23:702 (6) - you kill a beat with that slider, but it's ok <__<
00:27:920 (1) - wth is that? Form it in a less strict way and make the whole sliderparts visible (the borders must be visible)
00:37:997 (2,3,4) - doesn't really make sense, but you can keep it for symmetry
00:55:105 (7,8) - copy/paste 7 for 8?
01:00:730 (2) - too close to 1
01:01:081 (3) - since it's on blue tick alone, you shouldn't stack it with the previouse note, because it becomes close to impossible to catch this note with 300 on the first try
01:02:136 (5,6) - overlap
01:19:713 (2) - too close to prev. object..
01:31:196 - would add note here
01:34:946 (5) - NC?
01:40:336 (1,2) - copy/paste/flip 1 for the shape of 2, try to avoid the touching sliders
01:42:914 (1) - as mentioned above~
02:10:099 (4,5,6) - dislike the overlap
02:17:599 (3,4) - ^
02:57:205 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - OVERLAAAAAAAAP q__q and I recommend you to rearrange 5-8, since it's hard to read D:
03:00:955 (5,6,7) - overlap
03:06:345 (8,9) - ^
03:07:986 (2,3) - ^
03:09:392 (7,8) - ^
03:13:141 (5,6,7,8) - ^ and rearrange? D:
03:35:405 (1) - you know what
03:38:921 (6,7,8) - ^
03:46:420 - add note here or add 1 reverse on prev. slider + add clap on new note/sliderending?

Soo, done now :3 I may map you a taiko :D
bomber34
Like I promised I mod this ^^

[General]
  1. I dislike that the song is sooo long. I mean it is not a bad song I liked it. But for playing it feels to repetitive. Well... this is just personal thought and does not change the actual mapping quality
  2. imo: The combo colors yellow and green are not that contrastful to your main bg. I had no problems with the guest bg.
  3. Well just for saying. Your Video quality is good. That means I won't have to use NoVideo mod :3
  4. not necessary but your bookmarks are weird. Mostly snapped to 1/8 and i often see no purpose
[Insane]

OD - 1?

  1. 00:24:405 (2,3,4,5) - Well i dislike to start with such small things but I think it would look nicer if the 3 HC would be over the sliderbow center
  2. 00:27:451 (7,9) - would look better if (7) does overlap less with (9)
  3. 00:34:482 (3) - clap does not fit there . Claps focus more on the beat than voice imo. So if you want to focus on the voice use other hitsounds.If you want to focus on beat put the clap on the slider end. I mean 00:33:310 (10,1,2) - have claps on 1/1 so they feel right.
  4. 00:50:828 - why is this green line snapped to 1/8 o.o? In the hard diff. it is snapped to 00:50:887 - (minor complain i know ^^)
  5. 00:52:996 - I miss a HC here
  6. 00:59:792 (8,2) - (8)'s hitburst partially overlapps with the slider (2) of the next combo. Is not as pretty as it could be.
  7. 01:24:400 (1,2) - they could cross better
  8. 01:25:806 (5) - I don't know. I would prefer it if you would map the voice which means 1/4 notes/sliderrepeats until 01:26:158 - or 01:26:275 -
  9. 01:35:649 (7,8) - I think they are to close. Put them further away from each other. Plays/Feels better imo.
  10. 02:16:193 - add note
  11. 02:58:143 (1,2) - (2) feels wrong. I would repeat (1) instead
  12. 03:21:578 (5) - I think this one is boring for an Insane. I would prefer a 1/4 stream here instead

[Hard]
  1. 00:17:374 (6) - to close ... I often miss this, because of the jump between (4-5). It is to anti-jumpy
  2. 00:24:405 (8) - would look better if (5) ends in the hollow of (8)
  3. 01:01:784 (6,7) - looks not so good imo. put it further away from (5)
  4. 01:03:073 (5) - looks a bit weird for me. Do a better triplet bow with (3,4,5) or a straight line
  5. 01:06:589 - add note
  6. 03:40:444 (3) - one grid to the right for a better bow. That would fit better with 03:40:327 (2,3,4) - to (1) overall and also fits to 03:39:389 (5,6,7,8) -
[AkonFreak's Hard]
  1. 00:05:187 (4) - sounds weird. Let it end on 00:05:422 - and you may add a note on 00:05:656 -
  2. 00:07:062 (2) - ^
  3. 00:08:937 (6) - ^
  4. 00:10:812 (4) - ^
  5. 00:20:655 (4,5) - spacing
  6. 00:22:061 (7) - put that a bit further away
  7. 00:26:748 (4,5) - put (4) a bit further away and map the gap between (4,5)
  8. 00:27:920 (1) - not sure what i should think of that. Looks nice but the last turn seems to accelerate the Sliderball
  9. 00:37:529 - I miss a note here
  10. 00:41:747 (4,5) - like 00:26:748 (4,5) -
  11. 01:00:027 (1,2,3,1) - weird spacing. Either increase spacing overall or make them the same
  12. 01:06:120 (7) - NC, Remove new combo from 01:07:058 (1) - and add NC to 01:07:292 (2) -
  13. 01:08:229 (7,1,2) - spacing should be the same
  14. 01:13:620 (4) - put that somewhere else. looks ugly. In fact 01:12:213 (3) - looks ugly too (I guess it is just my but heart sliders must have a certain size)
  15. 01:19:713 (2,3,4,5,6) - to close to (1)
  16. 01:24:400 (10) - very weird slider
  17. 01:41:742 (4,5) - map gap
  18. 01:42:914 (1) - see 00:27:920 (1) -
  19. 01:56:741 (4,5) - map gap. I say that often i know but you should at least put a note on the next 1/1 here. This gap does not emphazise anything
  20. 02:58:143 (5,6,7,8) - If you want to stack these sliders try to not overlap any of them.
  21. 03:34:234 (4,5) - see 01:56:741 (4,5)
  22. 03:35:405 (1) - see 00:27:920 (1) -
  23. 03:38:921 (6,8) - both one grid down and one grid to the left
  24. 03:49:232 (4,5) - 01:56:741 (4,5)
[Normal]
  1. 03:40:327 (5,6) - either on (5) or (6) a new combo. The whole combo is to long for a normal
  2. I think the diff is fine. It is uncommon to have a non consistant distance snap for a normal but i don't mind. There wasn't something unfair imo
[Easy]

AR -1 ... at least it was a bit to fast for my taste

  1. 00:28:154 (3) - Most people dislike more than 1 repeat for easy diffs. I recommend to have no repeats and add a slider on 00:29:092 - 00:29:560 -
  2. 00:43:153 (3) - mostly the same like ^
  3. 01:08:932 (3) - not sure but you may stack the slider end of (3) with (1)
  4. 01:40:336 (5) - NC
  5. 01:43:148 (3) - see 00:28:154 (3)
  6. 01:52:523 (2) - not sure but i think a NC is good here
  7. 01:58:147 (3) - see 00:28:154 (3)
  8. 02:23:927 (3) - see 01:08:932 (3) -
  9. 02:43:378 (3) - NC
  10. 02:58:611 (4) - No slider but a HC on each 1/1 is better imo
  11. 03:01:892 (3) - too many repeats
  12. 03:05:173 (2,3) - stacks are also bad for easies
  13. 03:08:923 (2,3,4) - ^
  14. 03:30:015 (3) - NC
  15. 03:43:139 (5) - NC
Topic Starter
TheVileOne
If you want me to make additional changes, please provide screenshots or more specific instructions. Just telling me to change something should only be done for the most obvious of changes. Thanks for the mod though.

Also I was off my medication when I checked your mod. I may revisit some things tomorrow and make changes I may have rejected.

bomber34 wrote:

Like I promised I mod this ^^

[General]
  1. I dislike that the song is sooo long. I mean it is not a bad song I liked it. But for playing it feels to repetitive. Well... this is just personal thought and does not change the actual mapping quality Well there were certain parts of the song I wanted to map and that meant I had to map the entire song.
  2. imo: The combo colors yellow and green are not that contrastful to your main bg. I had no problems with the guest bg. There is no yellow in my difficulties. And green is default color?
  3. Well just for saying. Your Video quality is good. That means I won't have to use NoVideo mod :3 Yes!
  4. not necessary but your bookmarks are weird. Mostly snapped to 1/8 and i often see no purpose Resetting all bookmarks
[Insane]

OD - 1? I'd rather keep it difficult.

  1. 00:24:405 (2,3,4,5) - Well i dislike to start with such small things but I think it would look nicer if the 3 HC would be over the sliderbow center If I am to take this suggestion I would rather be shown what it looks like, because i don't understand what you want me to do and I think it looks decent as it is. You'll have to prove it can look better to me.
  2. 00:27:451 (7,9) - would look better if (7) does overlap less with (9) I think it looks worse when there is a gap. It's why I have an overlap there.
  3. 00:34:482 (3) - clap does not fit there . Claps focus more on the beat than voice imo. So if you want to focus on the voice use other hitsounds.If you want to focus on beat put the clap on the slider end. I mean 00:33:310 (10,1,2) - have claps on 1/1 so they feel right. Removed.
  4. 00:50:828 - why is this green line snapped to 1/8 o.o? In the hard diff. it is snapped to 00:50:887 - (minor complain i know ^^) I don't really know. Fixed
  5. 00:52:996 - I miss a HC here What? I don't know what HC means?
  6. 00:59:792 (8,2) - (8)'s hitburst partially overlapps with the slider (2) of the next combo. Is not as pretty as it could be. I do what plays nice, not what looks best. If you have an alternate that plays just as nice as what I have then I will change. Otherwise, 2 is centered and I want 10 goiing up instead of down. So there's no avoiding the hitburst overlap IMO. It also looks fine to me.
  7. 01:24:400 (1,2) - they could cross better How? Screenshot?
  8. 01:25:806 (5) - I don't know. I would prefer it if you would map the voice which means 1/4 notes/sliderrepeats until 01:26:158 - or 01:26:275 - I don't think it would fit. I chose to map this beat with a lot of sliders, and these sounds don't seem like they would sound nice being mapped. This is the difference between Insane and Hard. Hard has a note heavy approach and so i could note those sounds out. This mapping is different. But if enough people suggest it I will do it.
  9. 01:35:649 (7,8) - I think they are to close. Put them further away from each other. Plays/Feels better imo. Made 1.0 and changed the position to look better.
  10. 02:16:193 - add note I'll pass.
  11. 02:58:143 (1,2) - (2) feels wrong. I would repeat (1) instead Nah. I disagree. you have to hit it a particular way and if you're not good at opposing slider end jumps it's going to feel wrong.
  12. 03:21:578 (5) - I think this one is boring for an Insane. I would prefer a 1/4 stream here instead I didn't like that combo. I made it more interesting and turn that repeater into 3 sliders.

[Hard]
  1. 00:17:374 (6) - to close ... I often miss this, because of the jump between (4-5). It is to anti-jumpy It is an anti jump. I tried spacing it 1.0 away and it just doesn't play as well as if I wait there and transition. I like it.
  2. 00:24:405 (8) - would look better if (5) ends in the hollow of (8) If someone else wants to try to fix that overlap, be my guest. I've tried tweaking that section and if i change the sliders slightly it becomes awkward to play. I've managed to get tit to play and look fairly nice with the overlap where its currently at and don't want to waste my time trying to make a pattern that I've already failed to make work.
  3. 01:01:784 (6,7) - looks not so good imo. put it further away from (5) Umm the snap there is already 1.03. How much further than the distance snap I've been using for the whole map do you want these notes. If you truly want me to change show me a screenshot on how far these need to be to be playable and not ugly.
  4. 01:03:073 (5) - looks a bit weird for me. Do a better triplet bow with (3,4,5) or a straight line It's a perfect curve. It's curved exactly the same as the sliders.
  5. 01:06:589 - add note Meh. It throws off my ability to transition into the next combo. It also would bring the combo to 11 which is unappealing in the center of the screen. It generally just plays better skipping over that sound in my opinion.
  6. 03:40:444 (3) - one grid to the right for a better bow. That would fit better with 03:40:327 (2,3,4) - to (1) overall and also fits to 03:39:389 (5,6,7,8) Tweaked the notes around here. IDK if it's perfect. All I know is if I change things around here, it has a tendency to screw things up.-
[AkonFreak's Hard]
  1. 00:05:187 (4) - sounds weird. Let it end on 00:05:422 - and you may add a note on 00:05:656 -
  2. 00:07:062 (2) - ^
  3. 00:08:937 (6) - ^
  4. 00:10:812 (4) - ^
  5. 00:20:655 (4,5) - spacing
  6. 00:22:061 (7) - put that a bit further away
  7. 00:26:748 (4,5) - put (4) a bit further away and map the gap between (4,5)
  8. 00:27:920 (1) - not sure what i should think of that. Looks nice but the last turn seems to accelerate the Sliderball
  9. 00:37:529 - I miss a note here
  10. 00:41:747 (4,5) - like 00:26:748 (4,5) -
  11. 01:00:027 (1,2,3,1) - weird spacing. Either increase spacing overall or make them the same
  12. 01:06:120 (7) - NC, Remove new combo from 01:07:058 (1) - and add NC to 01:07:292 (2) -
  13. 01:08:229 (7,1,2) - spacing should be the same
  14. 01:13:620 (4) - put that somewhere else. looks ugly. In fact 01:12:213 (3) - looks ugly too (I guess it is just my but heart sliders must have a certain size)
  15. 01:19:713 (2,3,4,5,6) - to close to (1)
  16. 01:24:400 (10) - very weird slider
  17. 01:41:742 (4,5) - map gap
  18. 01:42:914 (1) - see 00:27:920 (1) -
  19. 01:56:741 (4,5) - map gap. I say that often i know but you should at least put a note on the next 1/1 here. This gap does not emphazise anything
  20. 02:58:143 (5,6,7,8) - If you want to stack these sliders try to not overlap any of them.
  21. 03:34:234 (4,5) - see 01:56:741 (4,5)
  22. 03:35:405 (1) - see 00:27:920 (1) -
  23. 03:38:921 (6,8) - both one grid down and one grid to the left
  24. 03:49:232 (4,5) - 01:56:741 (4,5)
[Normal]
  1. 03:40:327 (5,6) - either on (5) or (6) a new combo. The whole combo is to long for a normal Fine. Although it's really the combo number that not supposed to go to high, not how long the combo goes for in the timeline.
  2. I think the diff is fine. It is uncommon to have a non consistant distance snap for a normal but i don't mind. There wasn't something unfair imo
[Easy]

AR -1 ... at least it was a bit to fast for my taste I would oblige however AR -1 doesn't match my spacing and it would require a lot of remapping to make that work.

  1. 00:28:154 (3) - Most people dislike more than 1 repeat for easy diffs. I recommend to have no repeats and add a slider on 00:29:092 - 00:29:560 - i'll pass. There's no way Easy players could mess that slider up.
  2. 00:43:153 (3) - mostly the same like ^It plays well. Not fixing.
  3. 01:08:932 (3) - not sure but you may stack the slider end of (3) with (1) I could, but that would make the angle going into it slightly too steep. It plays better where I have it.
  4. 01:40:336 (5) - NC Done
  5. 01:43:148 (3) - see 00:28:154 (3) ...
  6. 01:52:523 (2) - not sure but i think a NC is good here Done
  7. 01:58:147 (3) - see 00:28:154 (3) ...
  8. 02:23:927 (3) - see 01:08:932 (3) - ...
  9. 02:43:378 (3) - NC Done
  10. 02:58:611 (4) - No slider but a HC on each 1/1 is better imo It's harder than what I have there though and i don't map that middle sound in any other difficulty.
  11. 03:01:892 (3) - too many repeats meh. You complain that my song is to repetitive and you want me to add more repetitive patterns into it.
  12. 03:05:173 (2,3) - stacks are also bad for easies That's my favorite part though.
  13. 03:08:923 (2,3,4) - ^The stacks are there to change up the pace.
  14. 03:30:015 (3) - NC Done
  15. 03:43:139 (5) - NC Done
ztrot
Not really a mod of sorts yet but I did notice that the video offset is wrong -240 should do the trick ;) also use those great hit samples I gave you. unless you didn't want to ofc
Topic Starter
TheVileOne
I forgot about those. Alright I will thanks ztrot.

Edit: I don't think your hitsounds work too well. Hit normal is too low and doesn't fit the vocals, and the clap sounds too much like the actual beat of the song. If I were to use it it would only be to maintain the hitsound pattern in taiko, because I can't hear it over the song. I'm not sure about the whistle yet. I don't know where I would use a whistle.
JudgeTheDude
Hi, from my modding queue

[Easy]
02:43:378 (1) - Is that shape normal, or is it just a mistake ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/398717

[Normal]
00:16:905 (3) - Can you center it with the Slider ? Like that http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/398724
00:34:951 (3) - Is not aligned with the Slider, try that: x:80 y:160
01:56:741 (2,3) - Why not symetrical ?
01:58:616 (4,5,6,7) - They'll look better like that: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/398726
01:59:553 (6) - x:216 y:72
02:00:022 (7) - x:288 y:192
02:20:646 (4,5) - Not aligned
02:24:864 (6,7) - Move them so that the 6 is aligned with 5's end and 7's start
03:40:327 (5) - 3 Grid up in grid LvL 3 x:312 y:72
03:40:796 (6) - 1 Grid up x:176 y:72

[Freak Hard]
00:41:278 (3) - Little Nazi modding but not aligned with the previous Slider
01:05:651 (6) - Bad snap with the previous note, put 0.7x
01:19:478 - I think a note here would fit with the music, and make that part a bit easier to play.
01:41:274 (3) - Stack it better, it's not perfectly stacked

[Hard]
00:28:154 (1) - I would have placed it's start on the previous Red Tick, at 00:27:920
00:43:153 (1) - Same here, I'd put its start at 00:42:919


That's all, and thanks for your mod, it was very helpful ^^
Topic Starter
TheVileOne

JudgeTheDude wrote:

Hi, from my modding queue

[Easy]
02:43:378 (1) - Is that shape normal, or is it just a mistake ? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/398717 No it isn't. Fixed

[Normal]
00:16:905 (3) - Can you center it with the Slider ? Like that http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/398724 Fixed
00:34:951 (3) - Is not aligned with the Slider, try that: x:80 y:160 I guess it looks better.
01:56:741 (2,3) - Why not symetrical ? Fixed
01:58:616 (4,5,6,7) - They'll look better like that: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/398726 I didn't like the diamond shape. So I changed it completely.
01:59:553 (6) - x:216 y:72
02:00:022 (7) - x:288 y:192
02:20:646 (4,5) - Not aligned Not supposed to be?
02:24:864 (6,7) - Move them so that the 6 is aligned with 5's end and 7's start Doesn't fit the pattern i'm using there, so no.
03:40:327 (5) - 3 Grid up in grid LvL 3 x:312 y:72 It's supposed to dip like that. It looks better my way.
03:40:796 (6) - 1 Grid up x:176 y:72 i'm keeping it where it is.

[Freak Hard]
00:41:278 (3) - Little Nazi modding but not aligned with the previous Slider
01:05:651 (6) - Bad snap with the previous note, put 0.7x
01:19:478 - I think a note here would fit with the music, and make that part a bit easier to play.
01:41:274 (3) - Stack it better, it's not perfectly stacked

[Hard]
00:28:154 (1) - I would have placed it's start on the previous Red Tick, at 00:27:920 I'm following the beat. I can't hitsound that
00:43:153 (1) - Same here, I'd put its start at 00:42:919 ^


That's all, and thanks for your mod, it was very helpful ^^
pimp
BANKAI!!!

general

osb file is empty, remove and full submit
consider removing the audio from video, for reduce file size
inconsistency in combo colors


easy

00:15:030 (1) - move to x136 y112
00:16:436 (2) - move to x472 y184
00:16:905 (3) - move to x360 y232, 2nd curve point to x384 y296, 3rd curve point x448 y304
00:18:311 (1) - move to x240 y208
00:18:780 (2) - move to x176 y312
00:19:249 (3) - move to x56 y288
00:19:952 (4) - move to x144 y144
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00:28:154 (3) - try this? and maybe clap at repeat/tail?
00:30:029 (1) - 2nd curve point 1 grid right, 3rd curve point 1 grid up, and ctrl j?
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00:43:153 (3) - same as 00:28:154 (3)
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00:51:121 (1,2) - tiny grid is required to fix the shape
(1) 1st x104 y328, 2nd x128 y292, 3rd x184 y292, 4th x208 y328
(2) copy paste (1) and ctrl j ....

btw i think moving (1) to x136 y184 looks better
00:52:996 (3) - new combo?
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00:53:699 (4,5) - spacing
00:56:277 (1,2) - ^
01:00:496 (2) - looks better if you move it away from previous (2), try x128 y168
01:07:526 (1,3) - try to avoid this overlap, try this:
01:06:589 (6) - ctrl j and move to x128 y352
01:07:526 (1) - x184 y248
01:07:995 (2) - x256 y152
01:08:932 (3) - x448 y248
01:09:870 (4) - x208 y248
01:10:339 (5) - x104 y304
01:11:276 (1) - x24 y96
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01:30:962 (1) - 2nd curve point x144 y160, 3rd x160 y224
01:31:899 (2) - 2nd curve point x280 y272, 3rd x265 y208
01:32:837 (1,2) - the current style does not fits the previous note imo, try this:
01:34:243 (3) - 2nd curve point 1 or 2 grids left
01:58:147 (3) - same as 00:28:154 (3)
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02:06:115 (1,2) - copy paste 00:51:121 (1,2) and ctrl j?
02:09:865 (1,2) - spacing
02:15:490 (2) - looks better if you move it away from previous (2), try x128 y216
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02:21:583 (6) - ctrl j and move to x152 y48?
02:22:520 (1) - x208 y152?
02:22:989 (2) - x280 y248?
02:23:927 (3) - x472 y152?
02:24:864 (4) - x232 y152?
02:25:333 (5) - x128 y96?
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02:44:316 (2) - slider end in red tick or white tick
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02:51:581 (1) - remove clap, sounds bad imo, because the next white tick was suposed to use a clap, try whistle at slider start?

normal

00:15:030 (1) - just imo, but this note current place does not fits the next slider shape, try x280 y104?
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00:25:811 (3,4,5) - i think you should keep 1/1 rhythm here or at least make it a repeat slider
btw keep in mind you are killing the spacing in this section, (3) is too far from previous note and (5) from next note,
i gess you can do that for symmetry but... this song is long (what a long song : D), you should consider making this diff a bit more simple
if you want to keep this 3 circles you can also try this:

(3) x312 y224
(4) x256 y264
(5) x200 y224
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00:27:686 (2,3,4,5,1) - i dont like how it currently looks, i hope its just for me, i dont know what to sugest, any idea?
00:33:310 (7) - remove clap?
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01:00:496 (2,3,4,5) - small spacing issues, (2) 1 grid left, (4) 1 grid lerft 1 grid down, (5) 1 grid left
01:02:839 (6) - 2nd curve point 1 or 2 grids down
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01:12:213 (2) - ctrl j, rotate by -45 and move to x216 y24?
01:13:151 (3) - x0 y192?
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01:20:181 (4) - x296 y336 looks better imo
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01:27:564 (5) consider avoiding the sudden 1/4 note, i sugest you start a slider at 01:27:212 and slider tail at 01:27:564 and add repeat? it will need a small remap in this section....
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01:55:335 (3,4,5) - i think you should keep 1/1 rhythm here or at least make it a repeat slider...
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01:56:272 (1,3) - try to avoid this overlap
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02:06:584 (2) - ctrl h and move to x360 y224
02:07:522 (3) - move this note 1 grid up, and 3rd curve point 1 grid down
02:08:459 (4) - x168 y168
02:09:396 (1) - 2nd curve point 1 or 2 grids left
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02:18:771 (1,2,3) - would be nice if you create something like that:

btw
(1) x184 y352
(2) x216 y288
(3) x248 y224
02:20:646 (4) - would need to move to x360 y88 if you use the previous sugestions
02:21:114 (5) - would need to move to x224 y56,
btw the current place makes a small spacing issue to the next note:
02:22:052 (1,2) - move (1) to x16 y176, (2) to x72 y176
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02:37:519 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - hmm lets try irc mod it, ok?
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03:08:454 (2,4) - try to avoid this overlap
03:11:735 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - nice :D
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03:28:609 (2) - 2nd curve point 1 or 2 grids down
03:32:827 (1) - 2nd curve point 1 grid left, 3rd curve point 1 or 2 grids left
03:34:234 (2,3,4) - this shape looks random, i dont know what to sugest atm, lets try irc mod it too
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03:36:108 (1) - 2nd curve point 2 grids right
03:37:515 (1) - 1 grid up?
03:38:452 (2) - x400 y328?
03:38:921 (3) - x304 y224?
03:39:389 (4) - x440 y200?
03:40:327 (5) - x312 y24?
03:40:796 (1) - x184 y72?
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03:43:608 (5,6,7) - strange placing/shape imo, lets try irc mod it
03:45:951 (3) - 2nd curve point x328 y352
03:49:232 (4,5) - spacing/strange placing/strange shape imo

AkonFreak's hard

your BG is not the recommended resolution, and not even 4:3, consider changing it

00:05:187 (3,4) - spacing
00:06:828 - why new combo? you are not using in 00:04:953 (3), remove or use in both, for consistency
00:07:765 (3) - new combo
00:07:062 (1,2) - spacing
00:08:937 (5,6) - ^
00:10:812 (3,4) - ^
.........
00:15:968 (4) - not perfectly symmetric with the previous notes, move to x320 y64
00:18:077 (1,2,3,4,5) - its nice, but make sure you fix the spacing with tiny grid
00:22:530 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing is really weird
00:23:702 (7) - 2nd curve point x176 y352
00:24:405 (8,9,10) - spacing. it was suposed to be all 0.80x, right?
00:24:873 (11,1) - spacing
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00:26:983 - consider mapping this part too
00:27:920 (1) - strange slider shape imo, btw you are using spinner at 00:42:919 and its a lot better imo, use here too?
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00:30:498 (2,3,4) spacing
00:31:435 (5,7) - the shape was suposed to be "mirrored" right? copy one of them and ctrl j, replace the other?
00:33:076 (1) - 3rd curve point x8 y128
00:33:076 (1,2,3,4) - btw this sudden spacing change looks bad
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00:37:997 (2,3,4,5,6) - spacing
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00:41:981 - same as 00:26:983
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00:52:527 (1,2,3,4) - this shape is not ok (imo) try this:

(1) 1st curve point x448 y200, 2nd curve point x352 y112, 3rd curve point x280 y336, 4th curve point x160 y216
(2) x104 y192
(3) x72 y264
(4) 1st curve point x128 y320, 2nd x224 y360, 3rd x328 y320
00:54:637 (5) - would need to move 5 to x400 y296
00:54:871 (6) - would need to move 6 to x440 y224
00:55:105 (7) - would need to move 7 to x424 y144
00:55:574 (8) - would need to move 8 to x324 y164
00:56:043 (9) - would need to move 9 to x200 y136
.........
00:58:152 (3) move 1st curve point to x344 y352, 2nd to x256 y264, 3rd to x168 y352
00:58:855 (4,5) - the symmetry could be better, remove 5, copy 4, and replace 5, ctrl h...
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01:02:136 (5) - remove the 2nd curve point
01:05:183 (4,5,6) - spacing
01:07:292 (2,3,4) - spacing, 4 should 1 grid up, but keep in mind you will need to fix the next notes spacing too
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01:12:213 (3,4) - ugly overlap (imo)
01:15:026 (1,2,3) - spacing
01:15:494 (3) - 2nd curve point x456 y256
01:16:432 (7,8,9,10) - spacing
01:16:900 (10) - imo this long slider is ugly, try
01:19:478 - note here?
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01:20:650 (7) - i still dont like long slider like that but...2nd curve point x456 y-56, 4th curve point x48 y280
01:22:525 (1) - 1 grid up
01:22:994 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - weird spacing
01:24:400 (10) - same as 01:16:900 (10)
01:26:275 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - weird spacing
01:28:150 (1,2,3,4) - ^
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01:31:431 (1,2,3) try this:

(1) 2nd curve point x280 y328, 3rd curve point x224 y384
(2) 2nd curve point x320 y240, 3rd curve point x376 y272
(3) 2nd curve point x192 y264, 3rd curve point x168 y192
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01:34:243 (3,4) - clap should be in 3 for consistency?? just saying
01:34:946 (5) - 1st curve point x192 y352, 2nd 128 y352, 3rd x128 y280
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01:42:914 (1) - same as 00:27:920 (1)
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01:48:070 (1) - 1st curve point x136 y136, 2nd x144 y72, 3rd x208 y72
01:48:539 (2) - x256 y72
01:48:773 (3) - 1st curve point x312 y72, 2nd 376 y72, 3rd x376 152
01:49:476 (5) - 1st curve point x376 y248, 2nd x368 y312, x304 y312
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01:50:648 (4,5,6) the current shape is already symmetric but i gess people would prefer something like that: !?

(4) 1st curve point x112 y216, 2nd x96 y88, 3rd x200 y56
(5) x256 y104
(6) 1st curve point x312 y56, 2nd x416 y88, 3rd x400 y216
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01:52:523 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - weird spacing
01:53:694 (7) - 2nd curve point x136 y136, 3rd x192 y112
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01:55:335 (1,2,3) - the current shape is too ugly, i dont know how to deal with this style so i'll sugest you another one:

(1) 1st curve point x128 y128, 2nd x80 y152, 3rd x80 y208
(2) copy (1) and ctrl h, move to x160 200
(3) copy (1) move to x128 y272
01:56:975 - consider mapping this part too
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02:10:099 (4,5,6) - same as 01:55:335 (1,2,3) - and you can use the same sliders, but "ctrl <" them
02:11:740 (2) - 2nd curve point x456 y176 3rd x440 y120
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02:15:490 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - weird spacing
02:15:958 (3) - 2nd curve point x84 y96
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02:17:599 (3,4) - would be better if the sliders dont touch themselves, try this:
(3) 2nd curve point x336 y352, 3rd x264 y360
(4) move to x264 y280, 2nd curve point x272 y224, 3rd curve point x320 y200
02:18:536 (5) - would need to move 5 to x400 y192
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02:21:583 (9) - delete this note, copy (7) ctrl j
02:22:052 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - weird spacing
02:23:223 (8) - 2nd corve point x184 y24
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02:23:927 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - weird spacing
02:25:098 (8) - 1st curve point x420 y272, 2nd x488 y264, 3rd x488 y192?
02:25:567 (9) - 1st curvr point x408 y192, 2nd x420 y132, 3rd x360 y104?
02:26:036 (10) - x328 y176?
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02:26:270 (1,2,3,4,5) - you need to create something better than this, its too simple (imo)
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02:37:988 (2,3,4) - spacing
02:38:925 (4,6) - try to avoid this overlap
02:39:863 (6,7,8) - spacing
02:41:503 (1,2,3) - spacing
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02:52:518 (1) - delete 2nd curve point and move this slider 5 grids right
02:54:862 (6) - move 1grid right remove 4th curve point, move 2nd curve point to x368 y112 and 3rd to x392 y184
02:57:205 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - the shape could be better, they are too close imo
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03:00:955 (5,6,7) - the shape could be better, you can also try something like that:
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03:02:361 (1,2,3,4,5) - weird spacing
03:03:767 (8,9,1) - weird spacing
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03:06:345 (8) 1st curve point x240 y320, 2nd x312 y352, 3rd x344 y264
03:06:814 (9) 1st curve point x272 y264, 2nd x304 y216, 3rd x368 y240
03:07:282 (10) x 424 y240
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03:07:986 (2,3) - would be better if the slider dont touch themselves, you can copy 03:06:345 (8,9) - ctrl j ctrl h....
03:09:392 (7,8) - ^ but "ctrl >"
03:13:141 (5,6,7,8) - ^
03:12:907 (4,6) - try to avoid this overlap
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03:22:633 (2,3,4) - spacing
03:23:922 (7) - 2nd curve point x168 y24, 3rd curve point x112 y48
03:24:859 (9) - 2nd curve point x176 y120, 3rd curve point x120 y144, then select (8,9) and 1 grid down
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03:26:265 (3,4,5,1) - weird spacing
03:30:484 (3,4,5,6) - spacing
03:31:656 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
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03:33:296 (2,3) - select this notes and move 1 grid left
03:34:234 (4) - x64 y88?
03:34:468 - consider mapping this part too
03:35:405 (1) - same as 00:27:920 (1)
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03:38:921 (6,7,8) would be better if the sliders dont touch themselves
03:40:561 (1) 2nd curve point x152 y224, 3rd x152 y144
03:45:248 (1,2,3,4,5) - spacing
03:46:654 (7,8,9,10,11) - spacing
03:49:467 - consider mapping this part too

^ lets talk about this dificulty....
as you can see there is a lot of spacing issues and some of them are really weird...
i pointed all that i found but of course could be more, at some point i got lazy to try to fix it for you and just pointed what should be fixed, sorry
is up to you to find and fix
remember if you are using 0.8x distance snap, the notes are suposed to be 0.80 spaced.. so dont let the notes be more than 0.82 or less than 0.78 (try to use small grid as much as possible to fix it and use tiny grid when needed)
of course you can ignore the spacing in hard for symmetry and jumps, slow downs but.... is not a good idea to switch between 0.80 0.70 0.60 in the same combo for no reason, hmm, how can i explain it..
keep in mind you have a lot of weird shape sliders..


okay...
i'll mod the other two after some sleep
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hard


sliderspeed 1.93? i see your current slider speed (2.0) does not fits the grids, that makes a bit difficult to keep a consistent spacing to circles even in a straight line.. for exemple 00:19:717 (5,6,7) this notes was suposed to be 1.0x spaced, right? but they are not, 1.93 would fix it but you would need to fix all notes spacing, they will increase about 0.05 i gess
btw i'm modding with your current slider speed:

00:17:843 (1) x96 y200 to fix the spacing to the next note?
00:23:233 (4) - spacing, move 1 grid down in you fix the next sugestion
00:23:467 (5,8) - take a look at this overlap, highly sugest you to fix it. try this: ?

(5) ctrl J "ctrl <" and move to x232 y72
you will need to change the next notes a bit ;_;
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00:25:342 (1,2,3) - not perfectly aligned/spaced, use tiny grid move (2) to 428 104. and you should copy (1) and replace (3), move it to x280 y192
00:28:154 (1) - 2nd curve point 2 grids right 1 grid down, 3rd curve point 1 grid down?
00:29:092 (2) - 2nd curve point 2 grids left 1 grid down, 3rd curve point 1 grid down??
00:30:029 (1,2) - spacing
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00:31:904 (5) - 3rd curve point 2 grids down
00:32:607 (6) - x64 y216
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00:33:310 (4) - 3rd curve point 1 grid down, 2 grids left?
00:33:779 (5) - 3rd curve point 1 grid up
00:34:248 (6,7) - x456 y136
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00:36:122 (3,4) - it was suposed to be 1 tiny grid left imo, but would need to move the next notes a bit
00:36:591 (5) - ctrl h, move to x72 y296 and 3rd curve point 1 grid right
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00:37:997 (2) - 2nd curve point 1 grid left, 3rd curve point 1 grid down
00:39:872 (5,6) - x128 y248
00:40:341 (1,2,3,1) - spacing
00:43:153 (1,2) - same as 00:28:154 (1,2)
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00:51:121 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing
00:53:934 (3,4,5) -spacing, and imo this shape makes no sense, try something like that: ?

btw
(3) x368 y240
(4) 1st curve point x280 y192, 2nd RED curve point x264 y240, 3rd x280 y288
(5) x184 y320
(1) x88 y280
not the best shape but at least it plays better and the spacing is fine
00:56:980 (6,1) - spacing
00:57:683 (3,4) - spacing, (4) is suposed to be x304 y292 (tiny grid)
00:59:792 (8) - it was suposed to be x16 y248
01:00:341 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - if you agree with the previous sugestion select all this notes and move 1 grid left 1 grid up
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01:00:730 (3,4,5) - same as EASY 01:32:837 (1,2) - and you can use the same shape
01:02:136 (1,2) - spacing
01:02:839 (3,4,5) - this notes looks random placed because of the next and previous slider shapes i gess, try:

(3) x304 y112
(4) x256 y128
(5) x208 y112
(6) x128 y48
01:03:777 (1,2,3) - spacing.. btw this part is suposed to be 1/3
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01:08:229 - 1/2 beat slider with 1 repeat?
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01:09:401 (6,7) - spacing
01:10:104 - same as 01:08:229
01:10:807 (1,2) - spacing
01:12:916 (7,8,9,1) - spacing
01:13:151 (8,9) - btw, looks strange without a circle in the red tick. add a circle in red tick or remove (9)?
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01:18:775 - note here?
01:14:088 (2,3,4) - spacing
01:15:026 - consider adding a note here with finish
01:15:377 (1,2) - spacing
01:18:072 (1,2,3) - looks bad and the shape does not makes sense imo, try this: ?

(1) x120 y368
(2) x48 y272
(3) x80 y136
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01:19:010 (1) - 1 grid down?
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01:20:299 (6,7) - suposed to be 1x right? try tiny grid
01:20:885 (9) - 1 grid right
01:21:353 (1) - 1 grid up
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01:23:814 (5,6,7) - select all, 1 grid right 1 grid down
01:24:400 (1) - would need to move to x48 y120
01:26:509 (1) - 1 grid down
01:26:978 (2) x176 y344
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01:31:548 (6,7,8) - spacing. select (6,7) 1 grid left and (8) 1 grid up
01:32:368 (9) - 1 grid right?
01:32:837 (1,2,3) - spacing, as explained in the start of this dificulty mod. try tiny grid? or try something like that:
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01:36:352 (2) - 1 grid down?
01:37:290 (1) - ^
01:37:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - lets try irc mod it too ok?
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01:40:336 (1) - 1st curve point x112 y360, 2nd x56 y336, 3rd x48 y272 ?
01:40:805 (2) - 1st curve point x136 y232, 2nd x112 y176, 3rd x146 y120 ?
01:41:274 (3) - 1st curve point x240 y144, 2nd x248 y88, 3rd x312 y64 ?
01:41:742 (1) x400 y88
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01:44:086 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4) - spacing
01:46:429 (6) - move 2nd curve point 1 or 2 grids right? looks better imo
01:46:429 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - spacing ;_;
01:49:945 (3,4,5) - spacing
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01:55:335 (1,2,3) - copy paste 01:40:336 (1,2,3) and ctrl j...
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02:07:522 (5,6,7,8,1) - spacing
02:09:631 (5,6) - spacing
02:11:974 (11,1) - spacing
02:12:677 (3,4,5,6) - spacing
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02:15:490 (2) - 1 grid down
02:15:958 (4,5,6) - spacing
02:16:661 (2,3,4,5,6) - spacing
02:16:896 (4,6) - btw try to avoid this overlap? try something like that:

(5) 1 grid up
(6) 1st curve point x144 y48, 2nd RED curve point x192 y48 3rd curve point x240 y64
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02:19:005 (4,5) - looks strange without a circle in the white tick. add a circle in white tick or remove (5)?
02:19:474 (1,2,3,4) - spacing
02:20:646 (1,2,3) - spacing
02:22:755 (3) - move 1 grid up, and 2nd curve point 1 grid left?
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02:23:692 (5,1,2,3,4) - spacing
02:24:630 (4,5) - strange imo, but i dont know what to sugest atm, lets try irc mod
02:25:684 (7,8) - spacing
02:26:622 (3,4,5) - spacing
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02:28:614 (4) suposed to be a " ~ " slider to work with the next notes:

(4) 1st curve point x304 y176. 2nd x224 y224. 3rd x184 y144. 4th x96 y184
(5) x64 y200
(6) x48 y248
(7) x184 y312
(8) x320 y248
(9) x360 y280
(10) x360 y328 < needs to fix spacing with tiny grid
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02:38:691 (4,5,6) - spacing
02:40:566 (4,5,6) - ^
02:41:972 (3) - 1 grid right
02:42:909 (6,1) - spacing
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..........huge changes here..........
02:51:815 (1,2,3,4,5) - select this notes move 1 (holding the other notes too) to x168 y176
02:52:987 (1) - 1st curve point x152 y336. 2nd x56 y256. 3rd x112 y144
02:53:690 (2) - x168 y88
02:53:807 (3) - x208 y60 (tiny grid)
02:53:924 (4) - 1st curve point x252 y36. 2nd x372 y44. 3rd x404 y156 (all tiny grid)
02:54:627 (5) - x384 y248
02:54:862 (6) - 1st curve point x296 y296. 2nd x248 y320. x200 y296
02:55:330 (7) - copy paste (6) ctrl j and move to x248 y208
02:55:799 (8) - 1st curve point x104 y120. 2nd x200 y72. 3rd s296 y120

in the end we have:

^ this is just to try to deal with the next notes
this is the main point of the huge change:


..........huge changes ends here..........
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02:56:971 (4,5) - this " ) ( " shape allways bother me. try this:?

(4) 2nd curve point x336 y272, 3rd x352 y336
(5) 1st curve point x224 y360, 2nd x184 y320, 3rd x192 y256
(6) x80 y200
(7) x120 y80
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02:58:377 (1,2,3) - spacing
03:00:955 (2,3,4) - spacing
03:01:424 (5) - 2nd curve point 2 grids left
03:02:361 (2) - 2nd curve point 1 grid down
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03:06:111 (5,6,7,8) - spacing
03:07:986 (5) - 2nd curve point 1 grid down
03:09:392 (6) - x112 y176
03:09:626 (7) - x160 y296
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03:11:267 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - nice :D
03:13:376 (9) - suposed to be x272 y64 i gess
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03:21:578 (3,4,5) - spacing
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03:23:219 (3,4) - spacing
03:23:922 (6) - 1 grid down
03:24:859 (8) - ^
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03:25:328 (1,2,3) - spacing
03:26:265 (5) - 3rd curve point 1 grid left
03:27:203 (8,9,10) - spacing
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03:27:672 (1) - 2nd curve point 1 grid right
03:28:257 (3) - spacing
03:30:015 (3) - spacing
03:30:953 (6,7,8,9,10) - spacing
03:32:359 (3,4,1) - spacing
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03:38:218 (2) - spacing
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03:41:616 (8) - spacing. 2 grids up?
03:43:608 (4,5) - spacing
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03:45:483 (2) - move to x360 y144 and 2nd curve point 1 grid up
03:46:420 (5,6,7,8,9) - spacing
03:49:232 (1) - spacing

okay....
i dont think you will change the sliderslpeed to 1.93 so i pointed all spacing issues that i found, try to fix with tiny grid


insane

my mod allways sucks in insanes but lets see....

00:17:374 (8) - consider avoiding this overlap
00:18:311 (4) - 1st curve point x200 y240, 2nd x256 y264, 3rd x312 y240
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00:21:827 - consider using a circle here, i sugest you move it to x160 y360. and stack the next (1)
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00:23:467 (7) - x424 y160
00:23:936 (8) - x304 y192
00:24:170 (1) - x304 y336
00:24:405 (2) - x168 y288
00:24:522 (3) - x128 y288
00:24:639 (4) - x88 y288
00:24:873 (5) - 1st curve point x224 y232, 2nd x264 y280, x224 y344
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00:25:342 (1) - x376 y336?
00:25:811 (2) - x208 y56?
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00:27:451 (7,8,9) - i think the current shape does not mekes sense, try something like that: ?

(7) x368 y176
(8) x320 y148 (tiny grid)
(9) 1st curve point x272 y176, x240 y224, 3rd x168 y224
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00:29:326 (3) - 3rd curve point 1 grid right?
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00:30:381 (3,4,5,9) - 345's hitbursts overlaps 9's tail. does not affects gameplay but looks bad imo, try this:
(8) x120 y288
(9) x256 y240
(1) x400 y120
(2) x400 y264

00:32:373 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - imo, this part is not suposed to be a long stream, remove 8 and 6?
00:33:427 - if you agree with the previous sugestion you could make a circle here
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00:35:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - no idea what to sugest here, lets try irc mod, but how about this: ?
(1) x96 y48
(2) x216 y128
(3) x256 y128
(4) x296 y128
(5) x448 y40
(6) x296 y224
(7) x256 y224
(8) x216 y224
(1) x96 y48
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00:41:747 (1,2,3) - looks random aligned, try (2) 2nd curve point x464 y304 3rd x416 y352 ?
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00:51:590 (2) - "ctrl >" and move to x360 y40?
00:52:293 (4) - looks random aligned, try 2nd curve point x128 y288, 3rd x112 y224 ?
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01:00:496 (2) - imo not a good idea to use a long slider with a repeat here, try
01:01:902 (5,6,7) - strange alignment imo, try this:

(6) 1st curve point x256 y296, 2nd x200 y264,3rd x144 y296
(7) 1st curve point x56 y240, 2nd x24 y296, 3rd x64 y352
(8) x200 y360 ?
(9) x264 y224 ?
(1) x224 y88 ?
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01:18:775 (1) 2nd curve point 1 grid left
01:19:244 (2) 2nd curve point 1 grid down
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01:24:400 (1,2) - imo ugly overlap try this:

(2) 1st curve point x144 y104, 2nd x136 y168, 3rd x192 y200
(3) x272 y32
(4) x88 y64
01:25:806 (5) - 2nd curve point x32 y304?
01:26:743 (7) - 2ns curve point x352 y304, 3rd x416 y312?
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01:42:680 (9) - 2nd curve point 1 grid up
01:50:648 (1) - 3rd curve point 1 grid right
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02:16:193 - consider adding note here
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02:53:690 - consider adding a note here stacked to 2
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02:54:862 (6) - x408 y48 ?
02:55:096 (7) - consider adding a note here in x472 y192
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03:00:486 (1,2,3) - too simple for insane imo
03:04:236 (2) - 2nd curve point 1 grid down
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03:47:826 (1,2,3) - use same shape as 03:32:827 (1,2,3) ? the current makes no sense imo
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this is finished, hope you like it :)

star, and good luck Vile and Freak : D
Topic Starter
TheVileOne

pimpG wrote:

BANKAI!!!

general

osb file is empty, remove and full submit
consider removing the audio from video, for reduce file size
inconsistency in combo colors
Both done

easy

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00:15:030 (1) - move to x136 y112 Sure
00:16:436 (2) - move to x472 y184 Changed pattern through here. The next few points aren't valid.
00:16:905 (3) - move to x360 y232, 2nd curve point to x384 y296, 3rd curve point x448 y304 I used them, but then had to adjust for a reverse selection.
00:18:311 (1) - move to x240 y208 This note doesn't exist anymore.
00:18:780 (2) - move to x176 y312 I have it at 179 319
00:19:249 (3) - move to x56 y288 64 288 is better for my new pattern
00:19:952 (4) - move to x144 y144 Mine is at 142 137

00:28:154 (3) - try this? and maybe clap at repeat/tail? I'm not changing it's orientation. Although due to a pattern change, it's placement has changed slightly.
00:30:029 (1) - 2nd curve point 1 grid right, 3rd curve point 1 grid up, and ctrl j? Position has changed, symmetry is fixed. Don't know why you want me to flip vertically.
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00:43:153 (3) - same as 00:28:154 (3) No. I'll keep it.
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00:51:121 (1,2) - tiny grid is required to fix the shape The shape is fine. It's not supposed to be symmetrical.
(1) 1st x104 y328, 2nd x128 y292, 3rd x184 y292, 4th x208 y328
(2) copy paste (1) and ctrl j ....

btw i think moving (1) to x136 y184 looks better
00:52:996 (3) - new combo? Done
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00:53:699 (4,5) - spacing Fixed
00:56:277 (1,2) - ^ ^
01:00:496 (2) - looks better if you move it away from previous (2), try x128 y168 Fixed.
01:07:526 (1,3) - try to avoid this overlap, try this: I'd rather not mess with grid adjustments. Especially since i already don't like the start of your suggestion. Skipping.
01:06:589 (6) - ctrl j and move to x128 y352
01:07:526 (1) - x184 y248 Not blanketting, because this is part of a pattern and it doesn't look good that way.
01:07:995 (2) - x256 y152
01:08:932 (3) - x448 y248
01:09:870 (4) - x208 y248
01:10:339 (5) - x104 y304
01:11:276 (1) - x24 y96
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01:30:962 (1) - 2nd curve point x144 y160, 3rd x160 y224 I don't want the first slider to have that shape. No change.
01:31:899 (2) - 2nd curve point x280 y272, 3rd x265 y208
01:32:837 (1,2) - the current style does not fits the previous note imo, try this: Since this relies on me actually using your previous suggestion, I have to deny this. Sorry
01:34:243 (3) - 2nd curve point 1 or 2 grids left Done
01:58:147 (3) - same as 00:28:154 (3) ^
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02:06:115 (1,2) - copy paste 00:51:121 (1,2) and ctrl j?
02:09:865 (1,2) - spacing
02:15:490 (2) - looks better if you move it away from previous (2), try x128 y216
All handled my way

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02:21:583 (6) - ctrl j and move to x152 y48?
02:22:520 (1) - x208 y152?
02:22:989 (2) - x280 y248?
02:23:927 (3) - x472 y152?
02:24:864 (4) - x232 y152?
02:25:333 (5) - x128 y96? Copied changes from first kiai here.
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02:44:316 (2) - slider end in red tick or white tick I'll pass.
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02:51:581 (1) - remove clap, sounds bad imo, because the next white tick was supposed to use a clap, try whistle at slider start? I like it. Not changing.


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00:15:030 (1) - just imo, but this note current place does not fits the next slider shape, try x280 y104? I'll keep for now, but I will change it if enough people mention it.
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00:25:811 (3,4,5) - i think you should keep 1/1 rhythm here or at least make it a repeat slider I like how this plays. I'd rather not change it.
btw keep in mind you are killing the spacing in this section, (3) is too far from previous note and (5) from next note,
i gess you can do that for symmetry but... this song is long (what a long song : D), you should consider making this diff a bit more simple Easy is the simple difficulty. And Simple gets repetitive in long songs.
if you want to keep this 3 circles you can also try this:
YES!!
(3) x312 y224
(4) x256 y264
(5) x200 y224
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00:27:686 (2,3,4,5,1) - i dont like how it currently looks, i hope its just for me, i dont know what to sugest, any idea? I'm don't mind this part actually. 1 seems a bit off actually. Changed that bit.
00:33:310 (7) - remove clap? Don't know why. It's following pace.
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01:00:496 (2,3,4,5) - small spacing issues, (2) 1 grid left, (4) 1 grid lerft 1 grid down, (5) 1 grid left Fixed.
01:02:839 (6) - 2nd curve point 1 or 2 grids down Fixed
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01:12:213 (2) - ctrl j, rotate by -45 and move to x216 y24? It's right where I want it.
01:13:151 (3) - x0 y192? ^
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01:20:181 (4) - x296 y336 looks better imo I've been moving the notes around. This coordinate is no longer valid.
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01:27:564 (5) consider avoiding the sudden 1/4 note, i sugest you start a slider at 01:27:212 and slider tail at 01:27:564 and add repeat? it will need a small remap in this section.... That is the last remnant of the previous mapping. I'd rather keep the timing the same. I made it more recognizable by increasing the snap.
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01:55:335 (3,4,5) - i think you should keep 1/1 rhythm here or at least make it a repeat slider... I'll pass.
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01:56:272 (1,3) - try to avoid this overlap Nothing I can do about it. Sorry.
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02:06:584 (2) - ctrl h and move to x360 y224 Done
02:07:522 (3) - move this note 1 grid up, and 3rd curve point 1 grid down Fixed
02:08:459 (4) - x168 y168 I have it at 176, 168
02:09:396 (1) - 2nd curve point 1 or 2 grids left Fixed
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02:18:771 (1,2,3) - would be nice if you create something like that: Done

btw
(1) x184 y352
(2) x216 y288
(3) x248 y224

02:20:646 (4) - would need to move to x360 y88 if you use the previous sugestions
02:21:114 (5) - would need to move to x224 y56, All set
btw the current place makes a small spacing issue to the next note:
02:22:052 (1,2) - move (1) to x16 y176, (2) to x72 y176 idc about the spacing difference. It plays well.
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02:37:519 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - hmm lets try irc mod it, ok? Okay?
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03:08:454 (2,4) - try to avoid this overlap No fix, hardly noticeable.
03:11:735 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - nice :D Thanks.
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03:28:609 (2) - 2nd curve point 1 or 2 grids down Slider looks fine to me.
03:32:827 (1) - 2nd curve point 1 grid left, 3rd curve point 1 or 2 grids left Unsure if fixed or not. I'd rather have a coordinate mod
03:34:234 (2,3,4) - this shape looks random, i dont know what to sugest atm, lets try irc mod it too Fixed
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03:36:108 (1) - 2nd curve point 2 grids right
03:37:515 (1) - 1 grid up?
03:38:452 (2) - x400 y328?
03:38:921 (3) - x304 y224?
03:39:389 (4) - x440 y200?
03:40:327 (5) - x312 y24?
03:40:796 (1) - x184 y72? Some done....
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03:43:608 (5,6,7) - strange placing/shape imo, lets try irc mod it Changed. Might change more later.
03:45:951 (3) - 2nd curve point x328 y352 Done?
03:49:232 (4,5) - spacing/strange placing/strange shape imo Changed.


hard


SPOILER
sliderspeed 1.93? i see your current slider speed (2.0) does not fits the grids, that makes a bit difficult to keep a consistent spacing to circles even in a straight line.. for exemple 00:19:717 (5,6,7) this notes was suposed to be 1.0x spaced, right? but they are not, 1.93 would fix it but you would need to fix all notes spacing, they will increase about 0.05 i gess
btw i'm modding with your current slider speed: I kind of apprehensive to do that

00:17:843 (1) x96 y200 to fix the spacing to the next note? I guess
00:23:233 (4) - spacing, move 1 grid down in you fix the next sugestion Fixed my way
00:23:467 (5,8) - take a look at this overlap, highly sugest you to fix it. try this: ?

(5) ctrl J "ctrl <" and move to x232 y72
you will need to change the next notes a bit ;_;
I slightly improved the bottom slider, but I want to keep the overlap for right now. If enough people bitch at me about it, I will remove.
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00:25:342 (1,2,3) - not perfectly aligned/spaced, use tiny grid move (2) to 428 104. and you should copy (1) and replace (3), move it to x280 y192 Fixed?
00:28:154 (1) - 2nd curve point 2 grids right 1 grid down, 3rd curve point 1 grid down? There's nothing wrong with the sliders as it is
00:29:092 (2) - 2nd curve point 2 grids left 1 grid do wn, 3rd curve point 1 grid down??
00:30:029 (1,2) - spacing Made both 1.02
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00:31:904 (5) - 3rd curve point 2 grids down Done
00:32:607 (6) - x64 y216 It's at 64 221 now.
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00:33:310 (4) - 3rd curve point 1 grid down, 2 grids left? I think fixed.
00:33:779 (5) - 3rd curve point 1 grid up ^
00:34:248 (6,7) - x456 y136 Increased spacing to 1.2 here
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00:36:122 (3,4) - it was suposed to be 1 tiny grid left imo, but would need to move the next notes a bit Fixed?
00:36:591 (5) - ctrl h, move to x72 y296 and 3rd curve point 1 grid right I'm not flipping my slider.
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00:37:997 (2) - 2nd curve point 1 grid left, 3rd curve point 1 grid down Done
00:39:872 (5,6) - x128 y248 Works for me
00:40:341 (1,2,3,1) - spacing Fixed
00:43:153 (1,2) - same as 00:28:154 (1,2) There's nothing wrong with these sliders.
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00:51:121 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - spacing You can't notice it while playing. No need for me to change.
00:53:934 (3,4,5) -spacing, and imo this shape makes no sense, try something like that: ? I don't like it. Spacing doesn't matter.

btw
(3) x368 y240
(4) 1st curve point x280 y192, 2nd RED curve point x264 y240, 3rd x280 y288
(5) x184 y320
(1) x88 y280
not the best shape but at least it plays better and the spacing is fine
No changes.
00:56:980 (6,1) - spacing Intentional.
00:57:683 (3,4) - spacing, (4) is suposed to be x304 y292 (tiny grid) Fixed
00:59:792 (8) - it was suposed to be x16 y248 I don't agree.
01:00:341 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - if you agree with the previous sugestion select all this notes and move 1 grid left 1 grid up That wouldn't fit. 1,2 are supposed to be centered around the edge of 00:59:324 (7) -
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01:00:730 (3,4,5) - same as EASY 01:32:837 (1,2) - and you can use the same shape There's nothing wrong with the pattern I have.
01:02:136 (1,2) - spacing Fixed
01:02:839 (3,4,5) - this notes looks random placed because of the next and previous slider shapes i gess, try:

(3) x304 y112
(4) x256 y128
(5) x208 y112
(6) x128 y48
I wasn't going for symmetry. The only part I'm going to look into changing is the end slider, because it's design looks slightly off. I turned it into notes.
01:03:777 (1,2,3) - spacing.. btw this part is suposed to be 1/3 Not remapping my currently playable pattern for a less readable pattern.
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01:08:229 - 1/2 beat slider with 1 repeat? No. I like my current pattern.
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01:09:401 (6,7) - spacing you don't see the butterfly pattern I made?
01:10:104 - same as 01:08:229 No. It's fine where it is.
01:10:807 (1,2) - spacing Fixed
01:12:916 (7,8,9,1) - spacing I don't want to fix. Sorry.
01:13:151 (8,9) - btw, looks strange without a circle in the red tick. add a circle in red tick or remove (9)? It plays perfectly the way I have it.
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01:18:775 - note here? No. I think my rhythm is complete through this part.
01:14:088 (2,3,4) - spacing Intentional.
01:15:026 - consider adding a note here with finish No.
01:15:377 (1,2) - spacing ^
01:18:072 (1,2,3) - looks bad and the shape does not makes sense imo, try this: ?

(1) x120 y368
(2) x48 y272
(3) x80 y136
I'll pass.
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01:19:010 (1) - 1 grid down? I guess.
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01:20:299 (6,7) - suposed to be 1x right? try tiny grid Really doesn't matter. The larger the spacing the better it looks. So that extra .03 will make it look slightly worse.
01:20:885 (9) - 1 grid right No. I'll keep that slider where it is.
01:21:353 (1) - 1 grid up Nothing wrong with this note.
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01:23:814 (5,6,7) - select all, 1 grid right 1 grid down I don't want to mess with this. Sorry.
01:24:400 (1) - would need to move to x48 y120 I have no idea what you're trying to fix. Whatever it is, it aint broken.
01:26:509 (1) - 1 grid down No I'll keep it where it is.
01:26:978 (2) x176 y344 No.
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01:31:548 (6,7,8) - spacing. select (6,7) 1 grid left and (8) 1 grid up Fixed.
01:32:368 (9) - 1 grid right? No. I'll keep it.
01:32:837 (1,2,3) - spacing, as explained in the start of this dificulty mod. try tiny grid? or try something like that:
It doesn't need to be perfect. Only if it looks off does it need to be fixed.
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01:36:352 (2) - 1 grid down? Made 1.0
01:37:290 (1) - ^ I guess so.
01:37:290 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - lets try irc mod it too ok? I am more than capable of fixing things.
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01:40:336 (1) - 1st curve point x112 y360, 2nd x56 y336, 3rd x48 y272 ? It's already at those coordinates.
01:40:805 (2) - 1st curve point x136 y232, 2nd x112 y176, 3rd x146 y120 ? Done
01:41:274 (3) - 1st curve point x240 y144, 2nd x248 y88, 3rd x312 y64 ? Done
01:41:742 (1) x400 y88 Done
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01:44:086 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4) - spacing Doesn't matter IMO.
01:46:429 (6) - move 2nd curve point 1 or 2 grids right? looks better imo I agree. Done.
01:46:429 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - spacing ;_; Improved
01:49:945 (3,4,5) - spacing I don't think it matters.
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01:55:335 (1,2,3) - copy paste 01:40:336 (1,2,3) and ctrl j... I think my pattern works better here. No change.
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02:07:522 (5,6,7,8,1) - spacing No change
02:09:631 (5,6) - spacing Fixed.
02:11:974 (11,1) - spacing Intentional
02:12:677 (3,4,5,6) - spacing Improved.
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02:15:490 (2) - 1 grid down Changed next note's position instead.
02:15:958 (4,5,6) - spacing Intentional
02:16:661 (2,3,4,5,6) - spacing Improved.
02:16:896 (4,6) - btw try to avoid this overlap? try something like that:
No. That slider isn't appealing. My overlap is fine IMO.
(5) 1 grid up
(6) 1st curve point x144 y48, 2nd RED curve point x192 y48 3rd curve point x240 y64

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02:19:005 (4,5) - looks strange without a circle in the white tick. add a circle in white tick or remove (5)? Not what I wanted.
02:19:474 (1,2,3,4) - spacing Fixed
02:20:646 (1,2,3) - spacing Improved.
02:22:755 (3) - move 1 grid up, and 2nd curve point 1 grid left? Done
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02:23:692 (5,1,2,3,4) - spacing 1,2,3 spacing fixed
02:24:630 (4,5) - strange imo, but i dont know what to sugest atm, lets try irc mod Tweaked the sliders a bit.
02:25:684 (7,8) - spacing Fixed
02:26:622 (3,4,5) - spacing Fixed
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02:28:614 (4) suposed to be a " ~ " slider to work with the next notes:

(4) 1st curve point x304 y176. 2nd x224 y224. 3rd x184 y144. 4th x96 y184
(5) x64 y200
(6) x48 y248
(7) x184 y312
(8) x320 y248
(9) x360 y280
(10) x360 y328 < needs to fix spacing with tiny grid
I'll keep my slider. I don't like where yours takes the notes after it.
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02:38:691 (4,5,6) - spacing Not messing with this.
02:40:566 (4,5,6) - ^ Symmetry
02:41:972 (3) - 1 grid right I guess
02:42:909 (6,1) - spacing Fixed
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02:51:815 (1,2,3,4,5) - select this notes move 1 (holding the other notes too) to x168 y176
02:52:987 (1) - 1st curve point x152 y336. 2nd x56 y256. 3rd x112 y144
02:53:690 (2) - x168 y88
02:53:807 (3) - x208 y60 (tiny grid)
02:53:924 (4) - 1st curve point x252 y36. 2nd x372 y44. 3rd x404 y156 (all tiny grid)
02:54:627 (5) - x384 y248
02:54:862 (6) - 1st curve point x296 y296. 2nd x248 y320. x200 y296
02:55:330 (7) - copy paste (6) ctrl j and move to x248 y208
02:55:799 (8) - 1st curve point x104 y120. 2nd x200 y72. 3rd s296 y120

in the end we have:

^ this is just to try to deal with the next notes
this is the main point of the huge change:


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Too different than what I wanted to do here. Sorry.
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02:56:971 (4,5) - this " ) ( " shape allways bother me. try this:?

(4) 2nd curve point x336 y272, 3rd x352 y336
(5) 1st curve point x224 y360, 2nd x184 y320, 3rd x192 y256
(6) x80 y200
(7) x120 y80
Changed what I wanted to change.
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02:58:377 (1,2,3) - spacing Fixed
03:00:955 (2,3,4) - spacing Remapped this part.
03:01:424 (5) - 2nd curve point 2 grids left
03:02:361 (2) - 2nd curve point 1 grid down has no meaning now
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03:06:111 (5,6,7,8) - spacing Plays fine IMO. Don't want to change.
03:07:986 (5) - 2nd curve point 1 grid down What?
03:09:392 (6) - x112 y176 Done
03:09:626 (7) - x160 y296 Done and also pointed down instead.
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03:11:267 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - nice :D
03:13:376 (9) - suposed to be x272 y64 i gess Done
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03:21:578 (3,4,5) - spacing Intentional.
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03:23:219 (3,4) - spacing Nothing wrong with it.
03:23:922 (6) - 1 grid down No. I want it starting on the horizontal line.
03:24:859 (8) - ^ ^
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03:25:328 (1,2,3) - spacing Fixed.
03:26:265 (5) - 3rd curve point 1 grid left Moved 1 grid right instead. Adjusted previous slider to match.
03:27:203 (8,9,10) - spacing Fixed.
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03:27:672 (1) - 2nd curve point 1 grid right Done
03:28:257 (3) - spacing I think the spacing looks better the way it is.
03:30:015 (3) - spacing It just looks better the way it currently is.
03:30:953 (6,7,8,9,10) - spacing It's fine. Most streams end up with spacing changes like that.
03:32:359 (3,4,1) - spacing Intentional.
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03:38:218 (2) - spacing Adjusted slightly. Not much I can do.
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03:41:616 (8) - spacing. 2 grids up?Done
03:43:608 (4,5) - spacing It's fine.
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03:45:483 (2) - move to x360 y144 and 2nd curve point 1 grid up Nah. I think I'll keep it.
03:46:420 (5,6,7,8,9) - spacing Improved
03:49:232 (1) - spacing Eh the position of 1 needs to stay there. I'll keep as is for right now. It's a small thing.

okay....
i dont think you will change the sliderslpeed to 1.93 so i pointed all spacing issues that i found, try to fix with tiny grid

insane
SPOILER
my mod allways sucks in insanes but lets see....

00:17:374 (8) - consider avoiding this overlap I don't mind it. Not changing.
00:18:311 (4) - 1st curve point x200 y240, 2nd x256 y264, 3rd x312 y240 Done
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00:21:827 - consider using a circle here, i sugest you move it to x160 y360. and stack the next (1) No. I don't want a circle there. I'm following the vocals.
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00:23:467 (7) - x424 y160 okay
00:23:936 (8) - x304 y192 ^
00:24:170 (1) - x304 y336 ^
00:24:405 (2) - x168 y288
00:24:522 (3) - x128 y288
00:24:639 (4) - x88 y288 All done except I adjust snap to 0.5
00:24:873 (5) - 1st curve point x224 y232, 2nd x264 y280, x224 y344 Changed my way.
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00:25:342 (1) - x376 y336?
00:25:811 (2) - x208 y56? Remapped this bit.
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00:27:451 (7,8,9) - i think the current shape does not mekes sense, try something like that: ?
Stacked now
(7) x368 y176
(8) x320 y148 (tiny grid)
(9) 1st curve point x272 y176, x240 y224, 3rd x168 y224
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00:29:326 (3) - 3rd curve point 1 grid right? Good catch. Fixed.
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00:30:381 (3,4,5,9) - 345's hitbursts overlaps 9's tail. does not affects gameplay but looks bad imo, try this:
(8) x120 y288
(9) x256 y240
(1) x400 y120
(2) x400 y264
Not changing this part.

00:32:373 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - imo, this part is not suposed to be a long stream, remove 8 and 6? Changed.
00:33:427 - if you agree with the previous sugestion you could make a circle here
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00:35:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - no idea what to sugest here, lets try irc mod, but how about this: ? I'm happy with the current pattern.
(1) x96 y48
(2) x216 y128
(3) x256 y128
(4) x296 y128
(5) x448 y40
(6) x296 y224
(7) x256 y224
(8) x216 y224
(1) x96 y48
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00:41:747 (1,2,3) - looks random aligned, try (2) 2nd curve point x464 y304 3rd x416 y352 ? Really don't know why I would need to change the slider points when the alignment is only one grid off.
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00:51:590 (2) - "ctrl >" and move to x360 y40? Unsure what you want me to do.
00:52:293 (4) - looks random aligned, try 2nd curve point x128 y288, 3rd x112 y224 ? Didn't change third point./
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01:00:496 (2) - imo not a good idea to use a long slider with a repeat here, try No.
01:01:902 (5,6,7) - strange alignment imo, try this:

(6) 1st curve point x256 y296, 2nd x200 y264,3rd x144 y296
(7) 1st curve point x56 y240, 2nd x24 y296, 3rd x64 y352
(8) x200 y360 ?
(9) x264 y224 ?
(1) x224 y88 ?
Changed my way.
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01:18:775 (1) 2nd curve point 1 grid left Done
01:19:244 (2) 2nd curve point 1 grid down Done
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01:24:400 (1,2) - imo ugly overlap try this:

(2) 1st curve point x144 y104, 2nd x136 y168, 3rd x192 y200
(3) x272 y32
(4) x88 y64
No
01:25:806 (5) - 2nd curve point x32 y304?
01:26:743 (7) - 2ns curve point x352 y304, 3rd x416 y312?
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01:42:680 (9) - 2nd curve point 1 grid up Done ^^^^
01:50:648 (1) - 3rd curve point 1 grid right
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02:16:193 - consider adding note here i'll pass.
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02:53:690 - consider adding a note here stacked to 2 Added
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02:54:862 (6) - x408 y48 ? Adjusted to 1.5 snap.
02:55:096 (7) - consider adding a note here in x472 y192 No. I'll keep my transition the way it is.
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03:00:486 (1,2,3) - too simple for insane imo Deal with it. I wanted this part to be simple.
03:04:236 (2) - 2nd curve point 1 grid down Done
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03:47:826 (1,2,3) - use same shape as 03:32:827 (1,2,3) ? the current makes no sense imo Moved 2 more in the corner.
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this is finished, hope you like it :)

star, and good luck Vile and Freak : D
Topic Starter
TheVileOne
AkonFreak

It's safe to update if you are unsure whether I've updated your difficulty. I made some small fixes to your difficulty. I will fix several small spacing gaps as I see them. I am willing to make certain changes based off some of the things I've mentioned below. Most of the things I've mentioned are very recommended.

Overall: The flow in this map NEEDS to be improved. When I tell you that x snap plays better, please do it. I want to get rid of as many flow issues in this map as possible. Flow problems I've noticed are in areas where 1/1 beat long gaps are set at 0.6 snap. Even if the 1/2th notes are set to 0.6, it flows badly when you make the 1/1 gaps 0.6 as well.

Another thing I'm really concerned with is pattern consistency throughout the difficulty. The start of the difficulty is mapped one way, but at some point you shift to mapping it a completely different way. It really would be nice if there wasn't such a large shift in the way its mapped. If you kept it simple, it wouldn't have had so many issues. This is a structural issue that doesn't have to be fixed, but it does negatively affect the quality of the final product. Your beatmap wont ever reach its full potential with this issue in it.

00:06:828 (1) - You didn't start the combo here in the other patterns.
00:11:281 - First off, this gap and strange. There's no cutoff in the beat so there's really no reason for the notes to pause before the next section. I highly recommend this gap be mapped.
00:15:499 (2,3,4) - I'm fixing this small spacing issue.
00:22:530 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5) - The spacing was starting off smaller and slowly got larger, I made that part better, but I still feel this pattern needs work, beyond keeping the spacing a consistent number. I went ahead and made the two triples more even looking in spacing and added a little rounder opening.
00:27:451 - Optional but recommended. You should add a note here, because it is the start of a triple. There is a triple here 00:26:514 - too if you listen, so it makes sense.
00:30:498 (2,3,4,5) - I fixed this spacing for you.
00:31:435 (5) - Really should have a new combo here.
00:32:841 (8) - I think you should delete. It will be more consistent to have a gap here (because it follows your start on a red tick mapping style). You will need to reposition 00:33:076 (1) - , but that doesn't seem like it will be too much of an issue. It should be moved up in the top left corner. http://puu.sh/19K5A
00:34:248 (3,4,1,2) - Consider 0.8 through here with alternate angled transitions. This is one way it can be done. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/446454 I had to remove some of the notes, because distance snap wasn't allowing a proper transition into the center. This allows for a cleaner transition.
00:42:450 - I suggest a similar note here, because of the same triple start. It makes more sense to start here.
00:42:919 (1) - Add a finish? I have a finish here in the other difficulties.
00:52:527 (1,2,3) - This was slightly off and could use some hitsounds. I fixed it.
01:00:027 (1) - Add finish to start?
01:02:136 (5,6,7) - Okay you need to find a better looking pattern here. This looks so bad. Try having the sliders go downward in a more consistent position. http://puu.sh/19KNF The only concern I have is this transition 01:03:542 (8,1) -. I think it plays nicely as a jump. or just delete note 8, which works too, possibly even better.
01:05:183 (4,5,6) - Fixing this spacing discrepancy.
01:07:058 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - There was some spacing inconsistencies. I fixed them. I brought most of the spacing down to 0.7 which you used heavily through these combos.
01:12:213 (3) - Perhaps add a whistle to the end to break up the silence?
01:14:088 (5) - ^ (to follow pattern)
01:18:775 (1) - You forgot to change the combo here, so I fixed it.
01:16:900 (10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This is a really nice pattern.
01:27:212 (4,5,6,7,8) - Aren't centered and I suggest you move these down some units for best flow.
01:28:150 (1,2,3,4) - Spacings should be equal. I suggest you move 2 3 units to the left and then 01:29:556 (4) - move one unit to the left. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/446513 This is really so recommended I will probably do this to your map if you don't.
01:30:024 (1) - Finish would go well here.
01:29:556 (4,1,2,3,4,5,1) - I think 0.7 would play better. Or if you dislike how 0.7 plays in the stream, just lower 01:31:431 (1,2,3) - , so that 01:30:962 (5,1) - is at least 0.7. It will play better. I don't consider this optional. It needs to be this way.
01:31:899 (2) - This was too high in the pattern. I fixed it.
01:33:071 (1) - I felt the curve of this was off. I changed it to a more fitting curve.
01:34:946 (5) - New combo? It would fit how earlier combos were formed. You know I'm just going to add a new combo here, and if you have a problem with it tell me.
01:40:102 (10,1) - I'm fixing this gap.
01:41:274 (3,4) - I'm making this spacing consistent.
01:48:070 (1,2,3,4,5) - Made all spacings 0.56 and also fixed a slider design flaw in your pattern.
01:52:523 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This design feel crushed into this spot. I made it 0.7 snap like the spacing later on.
01:57:913 (1) - Add finish?
02:08:459 (4,1) - Should really be 0.7. There's plenty of room to move the next part to the left. Adjust the curve of 02:09:396 (1,2,3) - to make a nice looking curve with 02:10:099 (1) - . Oh and you'll save a lot of effort if you move 02:10:099 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - as one unit to fix the alignment. Please make 0.7 work or I'll do it my way. http://puu.sh/19MIJ < This kind of pattern leaves your next part completely intact.
02:12:209 (3) - Slider is such a different shape than the previous one. It might be better if both sliders are more similar in shape. http://puu.sh/19MMw ?
02:14:318 (5) - Okay this slider is bad. If you really want that slider shape then the points should look like this http://puu.sh/19MSX . I think that this pattern could be improved. You could try something like this instead http://puu.sh/19MW6 or http://puu.sh/19N5k would interfere even less with your transition after. http://puu.sh/19Ndm < Even better.
02:22:052 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Here we are again with the spacing discrepancies. I touched up the spacings here.
02:24:161 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Squished streams here are awkward. I fixed the flow by increasing the spacing slightly.
02:29:452 - Finish?
02:52:518 (1) - Curve should be designed so that the end is lined up with the notes after it. Something like this http://puu.sh/19NJs You can choose a more vertical slider if you want, but increase the distance snap to 0.6/7 Check this slider out: http://puu.sh/19NOv
02:54:862 (6,7) - Should be at least 0.6 snap. You can move this 02:55:799 (7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - back all at once to match 0.6 snap.
If you do this parts after may need to be adjusted slightly. I can't accurately predict the outcome until it's done.
03:02:830 (4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Small adjustments to spacing throughout this part.
03:13:141 (5,6,7,8) - Sliders aren't perfectly ending in the right places. I will try to fix it later.
03:22:516 (1,2,3,4) - Doesn't play right to me. I suggest doing this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/446625 It plays a lot more naturally because the triple is a beat instead of a vocal.
03:29:078 (7) - Slider could be symmetrical.
03:29:546 (8,9,1) - I don't understand the positioning off of 7. It looks random to me. You should fix this transition.
03:30:484 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - 0.9 felt out of place through here. I changed to 0.8 because it was overall better.
03:34:468 (5,6) - This should be 0.8 IMO. I'm just going to move it down for you.
03:41:264 (2,3) - 0.7 would be better.
03:41:967 (4,5) - ^^^
03:42:905 (6,7,8) - Plays weird. Something is wrong with the flow here. This format would be more proper IMO http://puu.sh/19OBF
Purist_old
hi~
m4m from wantuole's mod queue

[General]
  1. default combo colour may not suit for this song
[Easy]
  1. AR-1?
  2. 00:31:435(2) this may better to me
  3. 00:41:747(1,2)remove note 2 and make this slider end in 00:42:684
  4. 01:04:714(3)one grid down
  5. 01:40:336(1)remove nc
  6. 01:41:274(3)nc
  7. 01:41:742(1)remove nc
  8. 02:06:115(1)try this
  9. 02:54:393(3,4)maybe 3 x:216 y:360 4 x:208 240
  10. 03:19:469(1)make this spinner start at 03:19:235 and end in 03:22:047 and add note at 03:22:516
[Normal]
  1. 00:27:686(2)
  2. 00:38:935(4)one grid up
  3. 00:42:684(6)something like this?
  4. 02:41:503(1)x:320 y:248
  5. 02:42:441(2)x:200 y:176
  6. 02:43:378(3)x:320 y:104
  7. 02:44:316(4)x:200 y:32
  8. 02:51:815(1)remove slider
  9. 03:08:923(3)Move center point on 408,96
[AkonFreak's Hard]
  1. OD-1
  2. hitsound too noisy,volume down
  3. 00:16:905(6)copy slider 5 and ctrl+h
  4. 00:41:278(3)^ copy slider 1
  5. 01:01:081(3)move to 01:01:199
  6. 01:03:777(8)nc
  7. 02:42:441(4)one grid right
  8. 02:44:316(8)two grid up
  9. 02:59:549(8)copy slider 6
[Hard]
  1. 00:53:934(3)just suggestion
  2. 01:04:245 add note
[Insane]
  1. OD-1
  2. 00:27:686(11)Move center point on 352,168
  3. 00:51:590(2)Move center point on 408,128
  4. 01:08:464(5)just suggestion
  5. 02:16:193 add note
  6. 03:13:376(3)two grid down
that's all good luck :3
Topic Starter
TheVileOne

Purist wrote:

hi~
m4m from wantuole's mod queue

[General]
  1. default combo colour may not suit for this song
I really don't want to use customs sooo...

[Easy]
  1. AR-1? I can live with that.
  2. 00:31:435(2) this may better to me I agree. I had to compromise towards the end though.
  3. 00:41:747(1,2)remove note 2 and make this slider end in 00:42:684 I don't want to make that slider any longer.
  4. 01:04:714(3)one grid down Tweaked the spacing
  5. 01:40:336(1)remove nc I'd rather not.
  6. 01:41:274(3)nc ^^^
  7. 01:41:742(1)remove nc ^^^
  8. 02:06:115(1)try this It's supposed to go along with the first verse of this.
  9. 02:54:393(3,4)maybe 3 x:216 y:360 4 x:208 240 Yes
  10. 03:19:469(1)make this spinner start at 03:19:235 and end in 03:22:047 and add note at 03:22:516 Good suggestion. Done
[Normal]
  1. 00:27:686(2) Done
  2. 00:38:935(4)one grid up Eh I changed things around here.
  3. 00:42:684(6)something like this? Done
  4. 02:41:503(1)x:320 y:248
  5. 02:42:441(2)x:200 y:176
  6. 02:43:378(3)x:320 y:104
  7. 02:44:316(4)x:200 y:32 Done^^^
  8. 02:51:815(1)remove slider Remapped this part with a nicer looking transition and pattern
  9. 03:08:923(3)Move center point on 408,96 I guess so
[Hard]
  1. 00:53:934(3)just suggestion Changed to match 00:53:934 (3) - . Good catch.
  2. 01:04:245 add note Changed parts through here. I no longer have a stack there
[Insane]
  1. OD-1
  2. 00:27:686(11)Move center point on 352,168 Okay
  3. 00:51:590(2)Move center point on 408,128 ^^^
  4. 01:08:464(5)just suggestion Nah
  5. 02:16:193 add note Yes
  6. 03:13:376(3)two grid down Umm?
that's all good luck :3
Kei
Hey TVO. I'm very sorry about the biiiiiig delay. I was very busy with school and blah blah you know.

[General]
  1. The size of the background is kinda odd. You should resize it to 800x600.
  2. Why does the Normal diff have a different soundset (soft) than the other difficulties? I suggest you to change the sampleset of the Normal diff to norma for consistency with the rest of the diffs.
[Easy]

  • *I hear the hitsounds too loud. I suggest you to decrease the volume a bit. The hitfinishes are too loud and so are the claps imo.
  1. 00:28:154 (2) - I don't think adding 2 repeats so suddently to a slider is a good idea since your previous sliders had just 1 repeat. Also, since this is a Easy diff beginners might think this slider has 1 repeat like the previous and they may get confused here. I think its better to replace this slider with a long one without repeats.
  2. 00:30:029 (1) - Here's missing a hitfinish.
  3. 00:33:779 (1,2) - Stacking notes at starts of sliders isn't a good idea for Easy difficulties. I don't see it as a friendly and easy-to-read note placement so I suggest you to unstack (1).
  4. 00:37:294 - Why did you change the sampleset so all of a sudden? It doesn't fit because the song hasn't changed in anything. I think it's better to remove this green line and keep the normal sampleset.
  5. 00:36:122 (2) - Try using this slider shape to make a blanket with the previous note (1). Move it a tad to the left, like this. After this, you can place 00:37:529 (1) at x:168 y:264, where (1) was. I think this will improve the look of this part.
  6. 00:40:810 (3) - Again, try using this slider shape to make a blanket with (1). Move it a tad to the left like this.
  7. 00:43:153 (3) - Same stuff about sliders with more than 1 repeat. Also, you forgot to add a hitfinish at the start of this slider.
  8. 00:52:996 (1) ~ 00:59:324 (2) - I highly dislike this part. It has too much notes at red ticks and that is too much for a Easy diff imo. You did it before a couple of times and since it fit with the music I agreed with it. But here I think you could have done something 1/1. 00:53:465 - here you can hear the voice too so it could be mapped by making the slider (1) end at the next white tick. For example, making this part (00:52:996 (1,2,1,2) like this is muuuch better than before. Also it is consistent with the previous patterns with sliders at red ticks. I also suggest you to do that pattern shown in the picture at 00:56:277 (1,2,3,4). Well, I think you should remap a bit this part like that to make it more easier and suitable for an Easy.
  9. 01:01:902 (3) - I think adding a nc here is good since I personally think that this section has too long combos so reducing them a bit would be good.
  10. 01:05:651 (5) - ^
  11. 01:08:932 (3) - I think a hitfinish sounds too loud and unfitting. I think it sounds better if you remove it.
  12. 01:09:870 (4) - Same thing as above about nc ^ (or add it to the previous slider)
  13. 01:17:604 (5,1) - This isn't folloowing anything. If you listen carefully it is even better to keep following a 1/1 rhythm instead of adding random notes at red ticks. http://puu.sh/1sJjy
  14. 01:21:588 (2) - Here's missing a hitfinish (at the end of this slider).
  15. 01:33:305 (2) - To make this pattern visually better move this slider a bit down. Preferably to x:408 y:224.
  16. 01:35:649 (4) - For consistency with your previous pattern 00:20:655 (1) add nc here.
  17. 01:45:023 - Why soft sampleset o.o?
  18. 01:52:523 (1) - Move this slider a grid to the right to perfectly make symmetry with the previous slider (1).
  19. 01:57:210 (2) - The way that 01:55:335 (4) covers a bit of this slider looks bad. To make the map look more clean try making a blanket with (2) like this.
  20. 02:06:115 (1) - This slider without hitsounds sounds and feels kinda dull and empty. I suggest you to add a whistle at the start of it.
  21. 02:07:990 (1,2,3) - Oh this section again .. well I'm not gonna repeat all what I wrote previously so try to follow what I told you about 00:52:996 (1) ~ 00:59:324 (2).
  22. 02:16:896 (3) - Add nc here if you did what I suggested you about the 1st kiai ncs. I'm not gonna repeat the rest of suggestions so I just wanted to say that c:
  23. 02:28:145 (5) - Hm this part sounds a bit different from the 1st kiai (im not sure though lol). Adding nc here to avoid a combo of 7 is a good idea.
  24. 02:41:503 (1,2,1,2) - This part sounds very odd because you ignored a big white tick at 02:43:144 in which you can hear a emphasized sound. As I said earlier, I think adding notes at red ticks like this is unnecessary, might be confusing for beginners and sounds worse than 1/1 notes. Sooo I think it would be better if you rearrange this part a bit with some notes at red ticks if you want but try to place something at that white tick. Feels weird to hear such a hitfinish-like sound at that white tick ignored while playing imo.
  25. 02:51:581 (1,2) - Sounds weird since you didn't mapped the whole break and this is like part of it so I think its better to just add a circle at 02:52:518 with hitfinish and deleting the rest.
  26. 03:15:016 (4) - Hmmm this is very simple and like a minor detail. I think placing this note at x264 y:168 looks much better than where you placed it imo.
  27. 03:25:797 (1) - ^ like above. Try moving this slider to x:496 y:312 to make this pattern look better.
  28. 03:35:640 (2) - Here's missing a hitfinish.
  29. 03:37:515 (1) - ^?
  30. 03:43:139 (1) - Could you improve this slider shape :?? The curve looks kinda bad imo.
  31. 03:49:232 (2,3,4,5) - This symmetric pattern looks good but you didn't use distance snap so I think you should snap properly these sliders.
  32. 03:50:170 (3) - Missing hitfinish at this slider end.

    This needs muuuch more work. I suggest you to improve most of the sliders with the new perfect sliders tool to improve the looking of the difficulty in general since this map seems to be old and mapped when the tool wasn't even implemented to the game.
[Normal]
  1. 00:23:467 (3) - This slider is a bit out of the screen. You should move it a tad up.
  2. 00:27:920 (3) - This slider sounds really awful tbh. Sliders at red tick sound bad and even more when you skip a big white tick by doing this. You should place this slider at the next white tick to keep following the music
  3. 00:30:029 (1) - Missing hitfinish at the start and missing clap at the end.
  4. 00:37:529 (1) - Missing hitfinish.
  5. 00:38:466 (3) - What is this finish here for? It doesn't even fit with the music.
  6. 00:40:810 (5) - This hitfinish sounds too loud and unnecessary. I suggest you to remove it.
  7. 00:43:153 (1) - A hitfinish at the start of this slider would sound good.
  8. 00:56:629 (2) - Notes at red tick in a normal diff >ok. Notes at blue ticks at normal diffs >nope. Really, it's too confusing for beginners to click notes at blue ticks. You shouldn't do this if it isn't even necessary. To avoid this I suggest you to map this part with sliders.
  9. 01:06:589 (5) - Missing clap at the end.
  10. 01:11:276 (1) - Kinda nazi lol move this slider 1 grid to the left to make a better visual pattern with the previous slider. (to align them)
  11. 01:19:010 (2,3,4) - This pattern looks too.. weird. Try making your patterns look more clean and pretty. I suggest you to copy the slider (1) so these 2 sliders have the same shape, and then perhaps try positioning them like this?
  12. 01:22:056 (1) - Missing hitfinish at the end.
  13. 01:27:564 (5) - Same thing about notes at blue ticks.
  14. 01:30:493 (1) - This note gets covered up by the spinner-osu thing. Move it a bit down to avoid this.
  15. 01:45:023 (1) - Missing hitfinish.
  16. 01:54:398 (1) - This hitfinish sounds really out of place. I think its better if you remove it.
  17. 01:56:272 (1) - ^
  18. 01:57:679 (3) - Finish at the end?

    Well the stuff keep going like that. I mean, in the rest of the map you repeated the same issues so if you find those points useful try applying them to the rest of the map. I don't like the volume of the samples, it is like in the easier diff. They sound too loud. Also, the spacing of the notes is too big. I also dislike how you in some parts changed the spacing just to make symmetry. I suggest you the same thing I suggested you to do with your Easy diff: improve your sliders with the new slider tool.
[AkonFreak's Hard]

  • *Oh god this hitsound volume really rape my ears. Please decrease it, it's too much. Also try using soft hitsounds from the start to 00:10:812 (4).
    *Ah and if you're going to map the intro, map it entirely. Don't start mapping the half of it all of a sudden. Everything after the red timeline is mappable..
    *You added an extra red timeline at 00:40:927. Remove it. It doesn't make any sense.
  1. 00:17:843 - This part feels to empty. Following just the voice makes the diff dull and monotonous to play imo. I suggest you to fill up empty spaces like this one with notes.
  2. 00:23:116 (4) - Overmapped note. There's no sound here and this note doesn't even fit so you should remove it.
  3. 00:23:702 (7) - This slider's curve looks bad.. try improving it with the new perfect sliders tool. Also, since at the end of the slider the melody changes (in fact, the voice) try adding a nc here. A nc with a number of 10+ is bad and should be avoided if it isn't necessary.
  4. 00:27:217 - O.O You're following the voice, okay, but the singer can be heard here at this white tick so... add a note?
  5. 00:27:920 (1) - This slider shouldn't start here. It should start at the next white tick. Add a note here and move this slider forward to 00:28:154.
  6. 00:33:076 (1) - Make a better curve.. like this.
  7. 00:33:779 (2,3) - The space between these two notes feels too empty. I suggest you to replace them with a slider.
  8. 00:36:122 (6,7,8) - This pattern looks bad and flows bad. Don't do symmetric patterns just because they look good. That is not right. Try making patterns that feel good to play.
  9. 00:37:529 - Don't ignore big white ticks like this and even more when you can hear a hitfinish-like sound in the music. Conclusion: add a note here..
  10. 00:38:114 (3) - Overmap
  11. 00:39:169 (1) - What's with this unspected jump? It's too much and doesn't fit with the music. I would rather fix the spacing here.
  12. 00:40:341 (6) - For consistency with your previous nc add nc here.
  13. 00:42:919 (1) - Don't start spinners at blue ticks when it is not necessary. I suggest you to move it forward to the next red tick.
  14. 00:54:637 (1,2,1,2,3) - This part flows bad.. I neither like the pattern but to keep it and make it feel a bit better try selecting 00:55:105 (1,2) and then press ctrl+H.
  15. 01:02:605 (6) - This shape is o.o I don't know how to say it. Looks very unfitting. I think you should make it simplier, by deleting 1 white point from it. (http://puu.sh/1t9sr)
  16. 00:55:105 (1) - This nc isn't necessary so you should remove it imo.
  17. 01:07:526 (4) - Missing hitfinish.
  18. 01:12:213 (3) - I suggest you to remove the whistle sound from the slider track. Sounds too noisy
  19. 01:15:963 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - You tried to follow the voice but the voice doesn't sound like this. The correct way to follow it is this one.
  20. 01:19:478 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ http://puu.sh/1t9yD
  21. 02:57:205 (3,4,5,6) - This overlap looks awful ;-; really, try avoiding patterns like this, they don't play nor look right.

    The problems are those listed above that keep being repeated in the whole diff. Try fixin those, really. This isn't rankable as it is..
[Hard]
  1. 00:22:647 (2) - Sounds a bit overmapped and unnecessary. I think this part sounds better without this note
  2. 00:32:959 (2) - ^
  3. 01:06:589 - Missing note. This sounds too empty and feels awkward to play without a note here.
  4. 01:17:604 (4,1) - Since the voice keeps singing here you can take advantage of it by replacing these 2 notes with a slider. Sounds better and fits much more with the music.
  5. 01:18:658 (3) - This note at a blue tick isn't following anything. I suggest you to move it forward to the next white tick. Makes much more sense.
  6. 01:52:406 (2) - Sounds kinda overmapped
  7. 01:56:741 (1) - Why do you skip the section from 01:56:741 to 01:58:147 with this spinner? You should map that part like you did with the rest of the map. Just for consistency.
  8. 02:27:676 (8) - This jump is too confusing and doesn't fit with the music. You should fix the spacing here
  9. 02:45:019 - I'll repeat this again o.o don't ignore big white ticks and even more when you can hear a emphasized sound in the music. So.. add a note here?
  10. 03:13:610 (1) - This spinner sounds so unfitting. It should be starting where 03:13:376 (9) is so my suggestion is removing 9 and moving this spinner there.
  11. 03:30:953 (6,7,8,9,10) - Overmaaaap
  12. 03:35:640 (4) - Hitfinish at the start?
  13. 03:39:624 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - Moar overmap
  14. 03:50:638 (4) - Hitfinish here too?

    Random overmapped triplets everywhere o.o try avoiding these. Uhmm and the flow is weird. It's not bad but it isn't that good neither.
[Insane]

  • Basically same issues and stuff about your Hard diff. I don't want to write more, I'm very tired.
__________________________

In general, you can improve every diff with the new sliders tool. Avoid overmapping, make some patterns look more pretty and clean and that's it.
Good luck
Topic Starter
TheVileOne

Kei wrote:

Hey TVO. I'm very sorry about the biiiiiig delay. I was very busy with school and blah blah you know.

[General]
  1. The size of the background is kinda odd. You should resize it to 800x600. I really don't want to. The resolution is almost square, it distorts when I save it as 800x600.
  2. Why does the Normal diff have a different soundset (soft) than the other difficulties? I suggest you to change the sampleset of the Normal diff to norma for consistency with the rest of the diffs. Because i'm not consistent with how I set hitsounds. I have my volumes set based on the pace of the song and how many notes are mapped.


[Easy]

  • *I hear the hitsounds too loud. I suggest you to decrease the volume a bit. The hitfinishes are too loud and so are the claps imo. I don't think so.
  1. 00:28:154 (2) - I don't think adding 2 repeats so suddently to a slider is a good idea since your previous sliders had just 1 repeat. Also, since this is a Easy diff beginners might think this slider has 1 repeat like the previous and they may get confused here. I think its better to replace this slider with a long one without repeats. I like this slider. I really don't want to change it.
  2. 00:30:029 (1) - Here's missing a hitfinish. Fixed
  3. 00:33:779 (1,2) - Stacking notes at starts of sliders isn't a good idea for Easy difficulties. I don't see it as a friendly and easy-to-read note placement so I suggest you to unstack (1). Nothing I can do. I had a pattern there that required a different timeline setup, and this was the only way I could make the pattern fit properly with the current timeline. I have to stack and I don't really want to change it unless I know what I'm doing is going to make it better.
  4. 00:37:294 - Why did you change the sampleset so all of a sudden? It doesn't fit because the song hasn't changed in anything. I think it's better to remove this green line and keep the normal sampleset. I agree. Removed
  5. 00:36:122 (2) - Try using this slider shape to make a blanket with the previous note (1). Move it a tad to the left, like this. After this, you can place 00:37:529 (1) at x:168 y:264, where (1) was. I think this will improve the look of this part. Unfortunately if I did this, it would put 00:37:529 (1,2) - too far to the left and I would never be able to fit the whole part after in the space available.
  6. 00:40:810 (3) - Again, try using this slider shape to make a blanket with (1). Move it a tad to the left like this. I have messed around with this part. The blankets aren't perfect, but they can't be perfect.
  7. 00:43:153 (3) - Same stuff about sliders with more than 1 repeat. Also, you forgot to add a hitfinish at the start of this slider. Remapped this part and I don't want a hit finish at the start of this slider. I only do that in Hard
  8. 00:52:996 (1) ~ 00:59:324 (2) - I highly dislike this part. It has too much notes at red ticks and that is too much for a Easy diff imo. You did it before a couple of times and since it fit with the music I agreed with it. But here I think you could have done something 1/1. 00:53:465 - here you can hear the voice too so it could be mapped by making the slider (1) end at the next white tick. For example, making this part (00:52:996 (1,2,1,2) like this is muuuch better than before. Also it is consistent with the previous patterns with sliders at red ticks. I also suggest you to do that pattern shown in the picture at 00:56:277 (1,2,3,4). Well, I think you should remap a bit this part like that to make it more easier and suitable for an Easy. Please do not suggest things that sound worse than the way I have it. Rhythm is always better than no rhythm. Also those are not slider sounds, so it sounds bad with the slide. I agree it is a bit difficult, but the alternatives aren't any better. I'd rather have a nice sounding part that's slightly too hard than an Easy part that sounds terrible. Although I might look into an alternative.
  9. 01:01:902 (3) - I think adding a nc here is good since I personally think that this section has too long combos so reducing them a bit would be good. Done
  10. 01:05:651 (5) - ^ ^
  11. 01:08:932 (3) - I think a hitfinish sounds too loud and unfitting. I think it sounds better if you remove it. I want to keep for now.
  12. 01:09:870 (4) - Same thing as above about nc ^ (or add it to the previous slider) Done
  13. 01:17:604 (5,1) - This isn't folloowing anything. If you listen carefully it is even better to keep following a 1/1 rhythm instead of adding random notes at red ticks. http://puu.sh/1sJjy It sounds perfectly fine. I don't want to change this right now. I like how it plays.
  14. 01:21:588 (2) - Here's missing a hitfinish (at the end of this slider). Added
  15. 01:33:305 (2) - To make this pattern visually better move this slider a bit down. Preferably to x:408 y:224. Mirrored 01:31:899 (2) - instead. Looks better.
  16. 01:35:649 (4) - For consistency with your previous pattern 00:20:655 (1) add nc here. Done
  17. 01:45:023 - Why soft sampleset o.o? Because I started with it, and then the tone changed so i couldn't alternate anymore.
  18. 01:52:523 (1) - Move this slider a grid to the right to perfectly make symmetry with the previous slider (1). Done
  19. 01:57:210 (2) - The way that 01:55:335 (4) covers a bit of this slider looks bad. To make the map look more clean try making a blanket with (2) like this. I fixed the overlap but I do not really know how to replicate the notes in the screenshot.
  20. 02:06:115 (1) - This slider without hitsounds sounds and feels kinda dull and empty. I suggest you to add a whistle at the start of it. Added whistles on both ends, made the first part soft hitsounds too, and added whistles to that one as well.
  21. 02:07:990 (1,2,3) - Oh this section again .. well I'm not gonna repeat all what I wrote previously so try to follow what I told you about 00:52:996 (1) ~ 00:59:324 (2). ...
  22. 02:16:896 (3) - Add nc here if you did what I suggested you about the 1st kiai ncs. I'm not gonna repeat the rest of suggestions so I just wanted to say that c: Done
  23. 02:28:145 (5) - Hm this part sounds a bit different from the 1st kiai (im not sure though lol). Adding nc here to avoid a combo of 7 is a good idea. It is different. I lowered the volume by 10% in first kiai. I removed the lowered volume in first kiai.
  24. 02:41:503 (1,2,1,2) - This part sounds very odd because you ignored a big white tick at 02:43:144 in which you can hear a emphasized sound. As I said earlier, I think adding notes at red ticks like this is unnecessary, might be confusing for beginners and sounds worse than 1/1 notes. Sooo I think it would be better if you rearrange this part a bit with some notes at red ticks if you want but try to place something at that white tick. Feels weird to hear such a hitfinish-like sound at that white tick ignored while playing imo. I ignore the white ticks in most of the difficulties xd
  25. 02:51:581 (1,2) - Sounds weird since you didn't mapped the whole break and this is like part of it so I think its better to just add a circle at 02:52:518 with hitfinish and deleting the rest. I'll keep. I map these in every difficulty.
  26. 03:15:016 (4) - Hmmm this is very simple and like a minor detail. I think placing this note at x264 y:168 looks much better than where you placed it imo. Done
  27. 03:25:797 (1) - ^ like above. Try moving this slider to x:496 y:312 to make this pattern look better. Done
  28. 03:35:640 (2) - Here's missing a hitfinish. Filled in all the missing hit finishes
  29. 03:37:515 (1) - ^? ^^^
  30. 03:43:139 (1) - Could you improve this slider shape :?? The curve looks kinda bad imo. Broke it up.
  31. 03:49:232 (2,3,4,5) - This symmetric pattern looks good but you didn't use distance snap so I think you should snap properly these sliders. I used distance snap. It's snapped to 1.2.
  32. 03:50:170 (3) - Missing hitfinish at this slider end. There's a hit finish?

    This needs muuuch more work. I suggest you to improve most of the sliders with the new perfect sliders tool to improve the looking of the difficulty in general since this map seems to be old and mapped when the tool wasn't even implemented to the game. Start with the old, finish with the old.
[Normal]
  1. 00:23:467 (3) - This slider is a bit out of the screen. You should move it a tad up. Raised a bit.
  2. 00:27:920 (3) - This slider sounds really awful tbh. Sliders at red tick sound bad and even more when you skip a big white tick by doing this. You should place this slider at the next white tick to keep following the music Replaced with a note on white tick
  3. 00:30:029 (1) - Missing hitfinish at the start and missing clap at the end. Added
  4. 00:37:529 (1) - Missing hitfinish. Yep
  5. 00:38:466 (3) - What is this finish here for? It doesn't even fit with the music. >.< I don't know what I was thinking.
  6. 00:40:810 (5) - This hitfinish sounds too loud and unnecessary. I suggest you to remove it. Fixed >.<
  7. 00:43:153 (1) - A hitfinish at the start of this slider would sound good. Done
  8. 00:56:629 (2) - Notes at red tick in a normal diff >ok. Notes at blue ticks at normal diffs >nope. Really, it's too confusing for beginners to click notes at blue ticks. You shouldn't do this if it isn't even necessary. To avoid this I suggest you to map this part with sliders. It's not confusing. However I agree it doesn't play the best. So I changed it.
  9. 01:06:589 (5) - Missing clap at the end. Yep
  10. 01:11:276 (1) - Kinda nazi lol move this slider 1 grid to the left to make a better visual pattern with the previous slider. (to align them) I think fixed.
  11. 01:19:010 (2,3,4) - This pattern looks too.. weird. Try making your patterns look more clean and pretty. I suggest you to copy the slider (1) so these 2 sliders have the same shape, and then perhaps try positioning them like this? Having trouble replicating the shapes...
  12. 01:22:056 (1) - Missing hitfinish at the end. Yep
  13. 01:27:564 (5) - Same thing about notes at blue ticks. Took some slight rearranging but fixed.
  14. 01:30:493 (1) - This note gets covered up by the spinner-osu thing. Move it a bit down to avoid this. :/ I kind of like where it is currently. I don't really want to fix this.
  15. 01:45:023 (1) - Missing hitfinish. Fixed
  16. 01:54:398 (1) - This hitfinish sounds really out of place. I think its better if you remove it. Sounds okay to me
  17. 01:56:272 (1) - ^ ^
  18. 01:57:679 (3) - Finish at the end? Sure

    Well the stuff keep going like that. I mean, in the rest of the map you repeated the same issues so if you find those points useful try applying them to the rest of the map. I don't like the volume of the samples, it is like in the easier diff. They sound too loud. Also, the spacing of the notes is too big. I also dislike how you in some parts changed the spacing just to make symmetry. I suggest you the same thing I suggested you to do with your Easy diff: improve your sliders with the new slider tool.

[Hard]
  1. 00:22:647 (2) - Sounds a bit overmapped and unnecessary. I think this part sounds better without this note
  2. 00:32:959 (2) - ^
  3. 01:06:589 - Missing note. This sounds too empty and feels awkward to play without a note here.
  4. 01:17:604 (4,1) - Since the voice keeps singing here you can take advantage of it by replacing these 2 notes with a slider. Sounds better and fits much more with the music.
  5. 01:18:658 (3) - This note at a blue tick isn't following anything. I suggest you to move it forward to the next white tick. Makes much more sense.
  6. 01:52:406 (2) - Sounds kinda overmapped
  7. 01:56:741 (1) - Why do you skip the section from 01:56:741 to 01:58:147 with this spinner? You should map that part like you did with the rest of the map. Just for consistency.
  8. 02:27:676 (8) - This jump is too confusing and doesn't fit with the music. You should fix the spacing here
  9. 02:45:019 - I'll repeat this again o.o don't ignore big white ticks and even more when you can hear a emphasized sound in the music. So.. add a note here?
  10. 03:13:610 (1) - This spinner sounds so unfitting. It should be starting where 03:13:376 (9) is so my suggestion is removing 9 and moving this spinner there.
  11. 03:30:953 (6,7,8,9,10) - Overmaaaap
  12. 03:35:640 (4) - Hitfinish at the start?
  13. 03:39:624 (6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - Moar overmap
  14. 03:50:638 (4) - Hitfinish here too?

    Random overmapped triplets everywhere o.o try avoiding these. Uhmm and the flow is weird. It's not bad but it isn't that good neither.
[Insane]

  • Basically same issues and stuff about your Hard diff. I don't want to write more, I'm very tired.
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In general, you can improve every diff with the new sliders tool. Avoid overmapping, make some patterns look more pretty and clean and that's it.
Good luck
RiKoKan
;'D great
Itachi_Uchiha
I would appreciate it to make a GD :)
No_Gu
[Easy]
00:25:342 (2) - a whistle sounds better than clap,anyway you can add both
00:40:810 (3) - ^
01:11:276 (1,2,3,4,1) - make them symmetrical by the center horizontal axis?
01:18:072 (1,2) - this time distance.not good for an easy diff imo
02:52:987 turn this volume to 70% sounds better
03:09:392 (3,4) - I see there is no stack in this diff except this..is it good?
03:52:045 (5) - a wisthle is better than a finish

[Normal]
00:25:811 (3,4,5) - distance issue
00:28:623 (4,5,6) - make them equal
01:14:791 (6) - is 1/4 really suitable in normal diff?
02:44:316 (4) - newbie will read this as one repeat..I tihink
03:46:889 (4,1,2,3,4) - make a good star?

[AkonFreak's Hard]
change the volume at least to 70% or lower
00:04:016 (1,2,3,4) - make them a same distance
00:04:016 (1,1,1,1) - seems a little laszy
00:11:281 (1) - end at 00:12:687 not only sounds better but also plays well
00:20:655 (4) - start a slider here follows vocal best
00:21:358 (6,7) - I really don't think this is good in hard diff
00:30:967 (4,1) - ^
00:41:278 (8) - NC
01:00:730 (2,3,1) - make them a slider? this plays suck
01:04:714 (3,4,5,6,7) - symmetrical?
02:18:770 (1,2) - exchange clap
02:22:520 (4) - finish sounds perfect
02:57:205 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - quite ugly
still need much work imo

if my memory isn't wrong...I can skip the other diffs?anyway,if you want,call me back
Topic Starter
TheVileOne

No_Gu wrote:

[Easy]
00:25:342 (2) - a whistle sounds better than clap,anyway you can add both Done
00:40:810 (3) - ^ ^
01:11:276 (1,2,3,4,1) - make them symmetrical by the center horizontal axis? I'm not sure how to do so without breaking something. The angles are very particular and centering puts the pattern very close to the top of the screen.
01:18:072 (1,2) - this time distance.not good for an easy diff imo This was a problem area. I'm just going to map the beat.
02:52:987 turn this volume to 70% sounds better Lowered it to 85, my normal soft hitsound volume.
03:09:392 (3,4) - I see there is no stack in this diff except this..is it good? Not the only stack.
03:52:045 (5) - a wisthle is better than a finish That would go against my hitsound pattern.

[Normal]
00:25:811 (3,4,5) - distance issue Huh?
00:28:623 (4,5,6) - make them equal It's supposed to look like they are spreading out.
01:14:791 (6) - is 1/4 really suitable in normal diff? Yes?
02:44:316 (4) - newbie will read this as one repeat..I tihink I don't really want to change this.
03:46:889 (4,1,2,3,4) - make a good star? I wasn't going for a star ._.

[AkonFreak's Hard]
change the volume at least to 70% or lower Done
00:04:016 (1,2,3,4) - make them a same distance I will think about it.
00:04:016 (1,1,1,1) - seems a little laszy
00:11:281 (1) - end at 00:12:687 not only sounds better but also plays well Done
00:20:655 (4) - start a slider here follows vocal best Remapped this part. should be a lot better
00:21:358 (6,7) - I really don't think this is good in hard diff ^
00:30:967 (4,1) - ^
00:41:278 (8) - NC
01:00:730 (2,3,1) - make them a slider? this plays suck
01:04:714 (3,4,5,6,7) - symmetrical?
02:18:770 (1,2) - exchange clap
02:22:520 (4) - finish sounds perfect
02:57:205 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - quite ugly
still need much work imo

if my memory isn't wrong...I can skip the other diffs?anyway,if you want,call me back
Teru21
yep~

since.. its an old style map :> it'd probably so much things that can be pointed out OAO but remember, all my mod with "?" is a suggestion, without "?" up to you, because I don't find any unrankable :3 but recommended maybe sorry my mod is messy

[General]
~ Audio lead in maybe? 1 or 1.5 sec ; even tho it didn't played at the start, but I really think you should add it if you don't want to make a heart attack to player
~ Offset should be 00:15:030 - I think, it affect to NC mode a lot, and it won't be problem cause you start mapping at there on all diff I guess
~ My Mod is in tiny grid

[Easy]
:3
00:15:030 (1) - try somethine like this? http://i.cubeupload.com/abDopv.jpg its following the vocal
00:21:124 (2) - change into 2/1 slider maybe? :> as I said ingame ;; too much 1/1
00:27:217 - add whistle
00:25:342 (2,3,1) - err.. spacing? ; also, 00:27:217 (1) - touching with 00:24:405 (1) - ; would be good if it didn't touched, so move 00:26:748 (3) - x324 y384 ; 00:27:217 (1) - should be at x232 y272 (will form polygonal pattern) Sudden change of DistanceSnap 1.2x -> 1.0x
00:28:154 (2) - turn into long slider maybe? (what you got now is also good btw) on the sliderslide add whistle X)
00:30:029 (1) - instead of curve slider, I might want to see this a line slider i guess.. somehow reflect the music+vocal alot
00:35:654 (1,2,1) - make polygonal pattern? or, http://i.cubeupload.com/ElcJ8E.jpg try this slider on 00:36:122 (2) - ?
00:42:216 - add whistle ; she squeaked ._.
00:43:622 (4) - add whistle on sliderslide ^
00:52:059 - somehow this sounds strange.. not a good idea if I suggest you to put drum addition tho.. you might want to try it maybe?
00:52:996 - add clap (should be both clap on head and end of the slider now) ; I don't why, just leaving the 2nd tick without any clap is kinda strange for me , same goes for others too
00:53:699 (2,3) - too hard... but nvm..
got something good here, maybe ;; 00:53:699 - add drum-hitfinish, same goes to the other too, probably untill 00:59:558 -
00:54:402 - ^
01:00:496 (2) - S slider would be good here owo;; 01:01:199 - her voice was flowing S here
01:19:713 (3,1,2) - make this slider looked the same :D
01:24:400 (2) - ctrl+H and move to x248 y276 ; remove 01:25:337 (3) - ; 01:25:806 (4) - ctrl+H ctrl+J x348 y116 ; will flow much better I think (with DS 1.0x)
01:26:743 (1) - move to 01:26:275 - , end it 01:28:150 -
add break 01:28:267
01:30:024 - add something ofc if change ^
01:50:648 (1) - nice one XD
02:37:519 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - hmm... i found this good if you make it horizontally , also 02:41:503 (1,2) - this beat is tricky, not recommended in easy tho.. then, select 02:37:519 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - and ctrl+shift+r insert 5, Idk what does that pattern called.. err 15degree? 02:43:378 (1,2) - this one too but with -5 , would looks good imo XD
~others should be the same by now.. o.o try to relook again and change whats same (if you change tho) www

[Normal]
00:17:374 (4) - turn into a circle and a slider maybe? 00:17:374 - this sounded same with 00:16:905 (3) -
00:19:952 (3) - give this slider a lil curve and polygonal pattern with 00:20:655 (4,5) - :3 flow better imo
00:24:873 (2) - slicer look please :3 new pythagoras , change other too
00:25:811 (3,4,5) - I'm not that agree with this tho.. maybe 1/2 slider reverse?
00:28:623 (4,5,6) - choose one and copy paste to all
00:34:248 (2) - 1/2 slider, constant with the other part or, you might want to try add 1/1 slider 00:33:779 - , 1/1 slider 00:34:482 - too
00:37:997 (2,3) - turn into 1/2 slider reverse , vocal
00:40:810 (5) - just add circle maybe? make it same with 00:40:341 (4) -
00:44:559 (2) - ctrl+j would flow better
01:20:181 (3) - try to stack it under 01:18:307 (1) - 's end
01:24:400 (1) - ^ 01:22:994 (2) -
01:53:460 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - umm.. I do think this looks messy :|
02:06:115 (1,2) - 1/1 slider reverse maybe? with line slider
02:41:269 - add circle because it'll be too tricky..
02:44:316 (4) - this one also tricky because slider before it was with 1 reverse, and this one have 2 reverse, how about long slider?
~should be the same with others now :3

[Hard]
~ hm.. I think its just lack of creativity a bit :> lets see..
00:18:780 (4,5) - change into 1/1 slider, would sound good XD cause, maybe I do think too much 1/2 at hard isn't a good idea tho.. follow vocal too btw ; same goes to the other too
00:20:655 (2,3) - ^
00:55:574 (3,4) - slider reverse (3) and turn (4) into a circle, because the vocal on (3) end 00:56:043 - , and 00:56:277 - should be a new combo because new vocal , if you change this, 00:57:215 (1) - remove NC , then 00:58:386 (4) - NC here
01:05:651 (5) - ctrl+G this, would flow better imo
01:07:292 (2) - would be better if you put this at x4 y104 I think :3
01:07:995 (3,4) - too.. blank? add note 01:08:229 - and (4) move to 01:08:698 -
01:09:401 (6,7) - 1/1 slider for consistency beat
01:10:104 - remove (8) and add 1/1 slider here
01:15:026 - add a note here, heavy beat is very important, or add slider there untill 01:15:377 (1) -
01:15:729 - remove things here , add 1/2 slider ; 01:16:080 - add 1/2 slider too here, to follow the vocal, what you are currently using, I think its kinda mess up
~and why starting here, your hitsound starting unconstant? if you want to add something else, you could use whistle and its fit nicely there, specially at the blue ticks one
~ 01:16:666 (12) - err.. hitsound change again? @A@;;;
01:55:335 (1,2,3) - would be nice if you keep one slider and copy paste 'em :3 err... like this one 01:40:336 (1,2,3) -
02:30:020 - add spinner here?
02:37:519 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this one does good o.o
02:57:440 (5) - err ctrl +h ctrl+j from this 02:56:971 (4) - would flow better
02:58:377 (2,3,4) - add whistle, :3 I can hear something...er, squeaked
03:14:548 (3) - ctrl +h 03:13:610 (1) - ? ; 03:14:079 (2) - a line vertical slider maybe?
03:22:516 (1) - I think Anti-Jump would fit here owo
~other are the same :3

[Insane]
~ Was hoping for more hooked beat :/ but well...
00:27:686 (11) - 1/2 slider without reverse then 00:28:154 - add a 1/2 slider too here , 00:28:389 (1,2,3) - delete this, turn them into 1/2 slider all with a finish on each white tick, if you think its too noisy, use soft finish, I think would be more catchy that way :o
00:34:013 (2) - make a small V shapped slider maybe?
00:35:888 (2,3,4,5) - 1/2 slider and a 1/1 slider maybe? I think you are too much using xxx x ;;;;
00:43:153 - add finish on each white tick, I can hear it on the background sound o.o
01:24:400 (1,2) - curve this more, its just looked so half assed...
01:29:556 (5) - end it 01:29:966 - :3
01:40:336 (1,2,3) - err polygonal pattern maybe... :>
02:15:490 (5) - I think you should curve this :3 and make the slider end (reverse) aline with 02:14:787 (1,2,3,4) -
~others are the same XD

Its totally because I don't want to make this too long ;w;)a;; and once again sorry for the messy modding

overall :/ yea its a so-so map.. not too good, but not bad too.. so its a soso good , But I really suggest you to change some random pattern into some nice pattern o_o;;
Topic Starter
TheVileOne

Teru21 wrote:

yep~

since.. its an old style map :> it'd probably so much things that can be pointed out OAO but remember, all my mod with "?" is a suggestion, without "?" up to you, because I don't find any unrankable :3 but recommended maybe sorry my mod is messy

[General]
~ Audio lead in maybe? 1 or 1.5 sec ; even tho it didn't played at the start, but I really think you should add it if you don't want to make a heart attack to player Erm there's 15 seconds of intro and a countdown. I think there's enough warning.
~ Offset should be 00:15:030 - I think, it affect to NC mode a lot, and it won't be problem cause you start mapping at there on all diff I guess I will need to consult my timer about this. There are 8 measure starts. The current offset should be on the right phrase already.
~ My Mod is in tiny grid

[Easy]
:3
00:15:030 (1) - try somethine like this? http://i.cubeupload.com/abDopv.jpg its following the vocal I was going for symmetry. I changed the slider to have some fancy curves.
00:21:124 (2) - change into 2/1 slider maybe? :> as I said ingame ;; too much 1/1 Agree with you on this one. The repeat doesn't add anything to the song and it puts the slider end in a bad spot for the next transition.
00:27:217 - add whistle Not sure I want to do this. It would be like a partial hitsound pattern.
00:25:342 (2,3,1) - err.. spacing? ; also, 00:27:217 (1) - touching with 00:24:405 (1) - ; would be good if it didn't touched, so move 00:26:748 (3) - x324 y384 ; 00:27:217 (1) - should be at x232 y272 (will form polygonal pattern) Sudden change of DistanceSnap 1.2x -> 1.0x I'm not sure where you're getting 1.2. The spacing is 1.0 here.
00:28:154 (2) - turn into long slider maybe? (what you got now is also good btw) on the sliderslide add whistle X) I love this kind of slow repeating. Whistles would be too distracting IMO
00:30:029 (1) - instead of curve slider, I might want to see this a line slider i guess.. somehow reflect the music+vocal alot I don't want to do this. It would make these 00:31:435 (2,3,4) - feel isolated.
00:35:654 (1,2,1) - make polygonal pattern? or, http://i.cubeupload.com/ElcJ8E.jpg try this slider on 00:36:122 (2) - ? Changed but I'm really not sure.
00:42:216 - add whistle ; she squeaked ._. k
00:43:622 (4) - add whistle on sliderslide ^ no
00:52:059 - somehow this sounds strange.. not a good idea if I suggest you to put drum addition tho.. you might want to try it maybe? Removed second whistle
00:52:996 - add clap (should be both clap on head and end of the slider now) ; I don't why, just leaving the 2nd tick without any clap is kinda strange for me , same goes for others too No. >.<
00:53:699 (2,3) - too hard... but nvm.. Wouldn't change anyways
got something good here, maybe ;; 00:53:699 - add drum-hitfinish, same goes to the other too, probably untill 00:59:558 - Alternated hitsounds- not sure if i like it.
00:54:402 - ^
01:00:496 (2) - S slider would be good here owo;; 01:01:199 - her voice was flowing S here Incoporated- wasn't very easy
01:19:713 (3,1,2) - make this slider looked the same :D Third slider wasn't changed, but I created a large arc in the first two sliders for a better transition. also wasn't an easy fix.
01:24:400 (2) - ctrl+H and move to x248 y276 ; remove 01:25:337 (3) - ; 01:25:806 (4) - ctrl+H ctrl+J x348 y116 ; will flow much better I think (with DS 1.0x) No I don't think I want this
01:26:743 (1) - move to 01:26:275 - , end it 01:28:150 - No.
add break 01:28:267 ^
01:30:024 - add something ofc if change ^
01:50:648 (1) - nice one XD
02:37:519 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - hmm... i found this good if you make it horizontally , also 02:41:503 (1,2) - this beat is tricky, not recommended in easy tho.. then, select 02:37:519 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - and ctrl+shift+r insert 5, Idk what does that pattern called.. err 15degree? 02:43:378 (1,2) - this one too but with -5 , would looks good imo XD Sorry. I prefer it vertical
~others should be the same by now.. o.o try to relook again and change whats same (if you change tho) www

[Normal]
00:17:374 (4) - turn into a circle and a slider maybe? 00:17:374 - this sounded same with 00:16:905 (3) - Remapped
00:19:952 (3) - give this slider a lil curve and polygonal pattern with 00:20:655 (4,5) - :3 flow better imo ^
00:24:873 (2) - slicer look please :3 new pythagoras , change other too What?
00:25:811 (3,4,5) - I'm not that agree with this tho.. maybe 1/2 slider reverse? I don't care for 1/2th repeat sliders in this difficulty.
00:28:623 (4,5,6) - choose one and copy paste to all Intended look.
00:34:248 (2) - 1/2 slider, constant with the other part or, you might want to try add 1/1 slider 00:33:779 - , 1/1 slider 00:34:482 - too Done
00:37:997 (2,3) - turn into 1/2 slider reverse , vocal Meh I might later on but I don't like how these sliders feel.
00:40:810 (5) - just add circle maybe? make it same with 00:40:341 (4) - i'll think about it
00:44:559 (2) - ctrl+j would flow better Done
01:20:181 (3) - try to stack it under 01:18:307 (1) - 's end Tried. I can't get the blanket right while maintaining the distance to stack at that position.
01:24:400 (1) - ^ 01:22:994 (2) - No. I don't want to go back at the same angle.
01:53:460 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - umm.. I do think this looks messy :| Where's your suggestion that will make it all better?
02:06:115 (1,2) - 1/1 slider reverse maybe? with line slider This is a mirror?
02:41:269 - add circle because it'll be too tricky.. Added
02:44:316 (4) - this one also tricky because slider before it was with 1 reverse, and this one have 2 reverse, how about long slider? No. Ugly.
~should be the same with others now :3

[Hard]
~ hm.. I think its just lack of creativity a bit :> lets see.. I agree. As I get mods, I will continue to update my patterns to more interesting ones. I remapped several patterns.
00:18:780 (4,5) - change into 1/1 slider, would sound good XD cause, maybe I do think too much 1/2 at hard isn't a good idea tho.. follow vocal too btw ; same goes to the other too I agree.
00:20:655 (2,3) - ^ No.
00:55:574 (3,4) - slider reverse (3) and turn (4) into a circle, because the vocal on (3) end 00:56:043 - , and 00:56:277 - should be a new combo because new vocal , if you change this, 00:57:215 (1) - remove NC , then 00:58:386 (4) - NC here This part is just so boring. i'm going to use some new patterns and curves. Changed the combos too
01:05:651 (5) - ctrl+G this, would flow better imo done
01:07:292 (2) - would be better if you put this at x4 y104 I think :3 That would ruin my butterfly pattern. I unstacked both sides. not sure how much more i'll change.
01:07:995 (3,4) - too.. blank? add note 01:08:229 - and (4) move to 01:08:698 - At this time I don't want to change my pattern, even if it's flawed. I may change it at a later time.
01:09:401 (6,7) - 1/1 slider for consistency beat ^
01:10:104 - remove (8) and add 1/1 slider here ^
01:15:026 - add a note here, heavy beat is very important, or add slider there untill 01:15:377 (1) - No. If i were following the beat here, i wouldn't have skipped over most of it.
01:15:729 - remove things here , add 1/2 slider ; I'm rather fond of the way I have it currently. /color] 01:16:080 - add 1/2 slider too here, to follow the vocal, what you are currently using, I think its kinda mess up [color=#0000FF]I don't skip over any claps. Anyways added a slider here 01:16:666 (7) - replacing the next note. 01:17:135 - adjusted
~and why starting here, your hitsound starting unconstant? if you want to add something else, you could use whistle and its fit nicely there, specially at the blue ticks one
~ 01:16:666 (12) - err.. hitsound change again? @A@;;; The hitsounds never changed? I'm not putting hitsounds on vocals when I beat tones to work with if that's what you want. I did that later on when I decided to focus more on the beat.
01:55:335 (1,2,3) - would be nice if you keep one slider and copy paste 'em :3 err... like this one 01:40:336 (1,2,3) - I don't think that is necessary.
02:30:020 - add spinner here? No. I want this to be a break. It works better with the video.
02:37:519 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this one does good o.o
02:57:440 (5) - err ctrl +h ctrl+j from this 02:56:971 (4) - would flow better Done
02:58:377 (2,3,4) - add whistle, :3 I can hear something...er, squeaked I think that would be a bit too overpowering.
03:14:548 (3) - ctrl +h 03:13:610 (1) - ? ; 03:14:079 (2) - a line vertical slider maybe? I'm confused.
03:22:516 (1) - I think Anti-Jump would fit here owo Huh?
~other are the same :3

[Insane]
~ Was hoping for more hooked beat :/ but well...
00:27:686 (11) - 1/2 slider without reverse then 00:28:154 - add a 1/2 slider too here , 00:28:389 (1,2,3) - delete this, turn them into 1/2 slider all with a finish on each white tick, if you think its too noisy, use soft finish, I think would be more catchy that way :o Remapped with symmetry jumps. finish clap, finish clap is what I used.
00:34:013 (2) - make a small V shapped slider maybe?
00:35:888 (2,3,4,5) - 1/2 slider and a 1/1 slider maybe? I think you are too much using xxx x ;;;;
00:43:153 - add finish on each white tick, I can hear it on the background sound o.o
01:24:400 (1,2) - curve this more, its just looked so half assed...
01:29:556 (5) - end it 01:29:966 - :3
01:40:336 (1,2,3) - err polygonal pattern maybe... :>
02:15:490 (5) - I think you should curve this :3 and make the slider end (reverse) aline with 02:14:787 (1,2,3,4) -
~others are the same XD

Its totally because I don't want to make this too long ;w;)a;; and once again sorry for the messy modding

overall :/ yea its a so-so map.. not too good, but not bad too.. so its a soso good , But I really suggest you to change some random pattern into some nice pattern o_o;;
Toran
Insane:

Id recommend you change the apporach rate to 9 and the circle size to 4, makes the song flow a lot more and makes seem more like an insane map.

Rest is wonderful, great job!
captin1
hey, m4m~

I bet it would be okay if this was 128.000 instead of 128.010, if this makes timing blow up then feel free to punch me for being stupid

[Easy]

00:22:530 (1,2,3) - why not make this symmetrical over the y axis for looks? spacing is pretty easy to correct after
00:33:779 (1,2,3) - Can't say I recommend stacking notes in an easy, tends to be a little confusing with the low ar. I was able to move both 2 and 3 down together and keep the spacing
00:39:403 (1,2,3) - I poked around with these couple notes, and came up with this pattern here. It involved redoing the sliders, but this has the spacing, blankets, and even symmetry! Yay!
00:41:747 (1) - Perhaps end this in the same place that 00:45:028 (5) appears after, so that it's in the same square?
00:51:121 (1,2) - I think you should remake these two, to make them a little more pretty
01:02:370 (2) - x:472 y:244 for a more even triangle
01:13:151 (1,2) - make these the same slider? I'm just personally a fan of clean 3 point sliders lining up like that
01:08:932 (3) - curve this so it fits with 2? Landing it on 1 again isn't too difficult
01:10:339 (2) - I think you could put the end of this so that it makes a triangle with (1,2) after it, like this
02:06:115 to 02:30:020 - any changes in the previous section apply to the copypasta too~
03:00:486 (1) - (ultra nazi D:) x:64 y:20, so it fits with the slider before a bit better
03:08:923 (2,3,4) - again, I just personally don't recommend stacks like this in easys :<

[Normal]

00:37:529 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - I would arrange the NC's here a bit differently, moving both of them one note later, so that the colors highlight the pattern instead of the phrase. Just an idea
00:41:278 (5,1) - I think you should make these two sliders the same, and then rotate them so that they surround 6 evenly, like this. Small difference when compared to before, but there is one
01:05:651 (3,5) - Line these up vertically?
01:24:400 (1,2) - Something about the asthetic flow between these doesn't sit right with me, I dunno, it's like 2 isn't placed where the flow from one seems to lead. Maybe I'm just crazy, it's highly likely
01:52:523 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - the rotated paste here, It just, waahhh, I'd like it to be symmetrical but I know it's probably like this for a reason. Feel free to change it, but there's nothing wrong as it is
03:35:171 (2) - I would either have suggest this be parallel to 1, or have the other point on x:312 y:336 so that it points towards the end of 3...for some strange reason

[Hard]
Replay

00:19:717 (6) - (nazi) symmetry is just a bit off cause this isn't on the axis :X
00:54:754 (1) - move to the blue tick after for rhythm consistency and something a little more interesting
01:03:308 (4,5) - Perhaps you could turn these into 1/4 sliders going out, like this
01:15:377 (1,2) - I don't like how this rhythm feels, there's an awkwardly large amount of space between them and it doesn't flow well back down, I think just having them 1/2 apart would be fine
01:15:963 (4) - make this 1/4 for rhythm consistency? moving the tail earlier
01:16:315 - If you do this^ then add a note here
01:17:135 (1) - I think this also sounds and feels good as 1/4, but moving the head to the blue tick instead of the tail earlier
01:31:196 - Add a note, the space feels odd since you map steadily in the combo after it
01:45:023 to 01:52:523 - this part is awesome >w<
01:56:272 - whistle on head for consistency?
02:09:631 (1) - move to blue tick after? same rhythm consistency idea
02:17:599 (6) - clap on the tail for consistency?
03:08:689 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - Ok, so I wasn't a fan of how this flowed, so I shifted it around quite a bit, and got something similar to how I would do this. Check it out

[Insane]
Replay
Well, you warned me about this one after, and I might have to agree. It gave me the immediate impression of one of those unpolished and clunky old maps. I think the main reasons for this are the CS5, semi symmetrical patterning and high distance spacing with okayish flow. CS5 takes some precise placement to do right, and I think that's what could be improved most
I'll be honest, I'm getting tired, so I'm gonna try and keep this mod to more general comments on sections rather than the nitpicky stuff that I've been doing

00:25:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Since the flow here is pretty much straight instead of wavy, it gives me a stop-and-go kind of feeling instead of constant motion.
00:30:029 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Similar to the above, this actually forces stop and go, and with as large of spacing between the notes as you do, it just doesn't feel as good as it could if the angles were sharper
00:35:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - Seems haphazardly placed, with one huge jump and some awkward spacing

So overall, the intro has just a lot of stop and go flowbreaking things, try to arrange this so the angles between notes are a little more sharp, since aiming for something in a continuous jump is easier than aiming for something when you have to just sweep the cursor or do a cold start.
The first half of the kiai feels a lot slower than the second. That may be due to the music getting more exciting, but I think the feel of the first section is compromised to obtain that effect. The pre-chorus is actually not bad, though.

01:21:822 (4,5,6) - really don't like how this flows, it would be nice to space these out instead
01:34:946 (1,2,3,4) - feels rudimentary, try to find a more intuitive pattern here?
01:46:429 (7,8,9) - do a ctrl g on each of these individually for flow perhaps

The second kiai seems like it's set up to get players to sliderbreak or lose a combo on the slider ends, with huge jumps in the opposite direction from the slider. I know I don't really like sections like that, so perhaps that could be remedied. 02:15:490 (5,6) and 02:19:474 (4,5) drew my attention the most

02:39:394 - Note here? The rest of the section fills in this beat, so I definitely think you should here as well

02:37:519 to 02:45:019 - I think this section over uses 1/2 repeating sliders. I think finding a pattern for each mini phrase and repeating that instead would work, and change it up, like sometimes do that repeater but also do circle slider, slider circle, three circles, y'know

02:46:659 (5,6,7) - This short little idea I think could be expanded on, doing a sort of dual mapping where you catch the main beat but also adding in flourishes from this countermelody could make this section a lot more interesting

After that, I'd just be repeating things that I've already said, so keep that in mind and take a gander through the rest of your map.

Sorry for getting lazy at the end, I hope I helped. Good luck!
Topic Starter
TheVileOne

Teru21 wrote:

[Insane]
~ Was hoping for more hooked beat :/ but well...
00:27:686 (11) - 1/2 slider without reverse then 00:28:154 - add a 1/2 slider too here , 00:28:389 (1,2,3) - delete this, turn them into 1/2 slider all with a finish on each white tick, if you think its too noisy, use soft finish, I think would be more catchy that way :o Remapped with symmetry jumps. finish clap, finish clap is what I used.
00:34:013 (2) - make a small V shapped slider maybe? Done, applied to mirror too
00:35:888 (2,3,4,5) - 1/2 slider and a 1/1 slider maybe? I think you are too much using xxx x ;;;; Eh i will need to experiment. I think this flows fine and is on beat.
00:43:153 - add finish on each white tick, I can hear it on the background sound o.o Applied same hitsound pattern I applied to first part.
01:24:400 (1,2) - curve this more, its just looked so half assed... Don't know what you mean by that. Don't know how to fix.
01:29:556 (5) - end it 01:29:966 - :3 No. I don't think I will.
01:40:336 (1,2,3) - err polygonal pattern maybe... :> Not sure what you mean by that
02:15:490 (5) - I think you should curve this :3 and make the slider end (reverse) aline with 02:14:787 (1,2,3,4) - Curved, and adjust part after.
~others are the same XD

Its totally because I don't want to make this too long ;w;)a;; and once again sorry for the messy modding

overall :/ yea its a so-so map.. not too good, but not bad too.. so its a soso good , But I really suggest you to change some random pattern into some nice pattern o_o;;

captin1 wrote:

hey, m4m~

I bet it would be okay if this was 128.000 instead of 128.010, if this makes timing blow up then feel free to punch me for being stupid Adding for right now. it doesn't make a difference by the time it get towards the end of the song. i'm not sure if there needs to be a reset somewhere, but I found the Insane easier to play when I changed it.

[Easy]

00:22:530 (1,2,3) - why not make this symmetrical over the y axis for looks? spacing is pretty easy to correct after Done
00:33:779 (1,2,3) - Can't say I recommend stacking notes in an easy, tends to be a little confusing with the low ar. I was able to move both 2 and 3 down together and keep the spacing Screenshot? I'm not changing this without a screenshot.
00:39:403 (1,2,3) - I poked around with these couple notes, and came up with this pattern here. It involved redoing the sliders, but this has the spacing, blankets, and even symmetry! Yay!
00:41:747 (1) - Perhaps end this in the same place that 00:45:028 (5) appears after, so that it's in the same square? Done, but it's not symmetrical with the previous pattern like you wanted.
00:51:121 (1,2) - I think you should remake these two, to make them a little more pretty I'm attached to these
01:02:370 (2) - x:472 y:244 for a more even triangle I guess done
01:13:151 (1,2) - make these the same slider? I'm just personally a fan of clean 3 point sliders lining up like that Already tried making them the same slider. I prefer that they be different, because they don't line up correctly when they are the same slider.
01:08:932 (3) - curve this so it fits with 2? Landing it on 1 again isn't too difficult No.
01:10:339 (2) - I think you could put the end of this so that it makes a triangle with (1,2) after it, like this
Adjusted
02:06:115 to 02:30:020 - any changes in the previous section apply to the copypasta too~ ^
03:00:486 (1) - (ultra nazi D:) x:64 y:20, so it fits with the slider before a bit better Sure
03:08:923 (2,3,4) - again, I just personally don't recommend stacks like this in easys :< Changed.

[Normal]

00:37:529 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - I would arrange the NC's here a bit differently, moving both of them one note later, so that the colors highlight the pattern instead of the phrase. Just an idea It's easier if I just follow the phrase.
00:41:278 (5,1) - I think you should make these two sliders the same, and then rotate them so that they surround 6 evenly, like this. Small difference when compared to before, but there is one
Did something similar.
01:05:651 (3,5) - Line these up vertically? Good catch. fixed
01:24:400 (1,2) - Something about the asthetic flow between these doesn't sit right with me, I dunno, it's like 2 isn't placed where the flow from one seems to lead. Maybe I'm just crazy, it's highly likely They aren't lined up, but it doesn't affect the flow.
01:52:523 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - the rotated paste here, It just, waahhh, I'd like it to be symmetrical but I know it's probably like this for a reason. Feel free to change it, but there's nothing wrong as it is It has such a good flow. :( I'd prefer someone to give me an alternative pattern before I consider changing it. I might change it eventually, but I don't want to change the timeline.
03:35:171 (2) - I would either have suggest this be parallel to 1, or have the other point on x:312 y:336 so that it points towards the end of 3...for some strange reason 312,336 doesn't point towards, 3 but moved the point there

[Hard]
Replay

00:19:717 (6) - (nazi) symmetry is just a bit off cause this isn't on the axis :X Fixed
00:54:754 (1) - move to the blue tick after for rhythm consistency and something a little more interesting No. i prefer it where it is.
01:03:308 (4,5) - Perhaps you could turn these into 1/4 sliders going out, like this
I don't like random increases in difficulty. Replaced the notes with a slider, and redid the notes through here. It should look better.
01:15:377 (1,2) - I don't like how this rhythm feels, there's an awkwardly large amount of space between them and it doesn't flow well back down, I think just having them 1/2 apart would be fine Not starting off rhythm after a gap. The timeline is not up for debate.
01:15:963 (4) - make this 1/4 for rhythm consistency? moving the tail earlier ^ No.
01:16:315 - If you do this^ then add a note here ^
01:17:135 (1) - I think this also sounds and feels good as 1/4, but moving the head to the blue tick instead of the tail earlier Eh it would be more consistent. I just don't want to change it until I know how to change it. I made it nicer to look at and snapped it all to 1.2 here anyways.
01:31:196 - Add a note, the space feels odd since you map steadily in the combo after it I may remap this at a later time, but not by having a note here. This sound is for a slider end. A note wouldn't work.
01:45:023 to 01:52:523 - this part is awesome >w< Thanks.
01:56:272 - whistle on head for consistency? Derp fixed.
02:09:631 (1) - move to blue tick after? same rhythm consistency idea Denied for consistency.
02:17:599 (6) - clap on the tail for consistency? removed from 02:16:907 (4) - instead
03:08:689 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - Ok, so I wasn't a fan of how this flowed, so I shifted it around quite a bit, and got something similar to how I would do this. Check it out
Eh I like the flow that is there right now. I tried to see if there was a way to make it look better, but I ended up not liking the alternative I came up with.

[Insane]
Replay
Well, you warned me about this one after, and I might have to agree. It gave me the immediate impression of one of those unpolished and clunky old maps. I think the main reasons for this are the CS5, semi symmetrical patterning and high distance spacing with okayish flow. CS5 takes some precise placement to do right, and I think that's what could be improved most
I'll be honest, I'm getting tired, so I'm gonna try and keep this mod to more general comments on sections rather than the nitpicky stuff that I've been doing

00:25:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Since the flow here is pretty much straight instead of wavy, it gives me a stop-and-go kind of feeling instead of constant motion. Made changed before this part. I don't really want to remap this particular combo though.
00:30:029 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Similar to the above, this actually forces stop and go, and with as large of spacing between the notes as you do, it just doesn't feel as good as it could if the angles were sharper Eh works for me. Don't know what you mean by sharper.
00:35:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - Seems haphazardly placed, with one huge jump and some awkward spacing It's not and i like the flow shift.

So overall, the intro has just a lot of stop and go flowbreaking things, try to arrange this so the angles between notes are a little more sharp, since aiming for something in a continuous jump is easier than aiming for something when you have to just sweep the cursor or do a cold start.
The first half of the kiai feels a lot slower than the second. That may be due to the music getting more exciting, but I think the feel of the first section is compromised to obtain that effect. The pre-chorus is actually not bad, though. Some of the flow breaks were on purpose. I've made some alterations to the kiai and the prechorus. I really don't know how to map the chorus, so there's not much I can do about changing things, except wildly try different patterns until something appears to work

01:21:822 (4,5,6) - really don't like how this flows, it would be nice to space these out instead Changed in previous mod
01:34:946 (1,2,3,4) - feels rudimentary, try to find a more intuitive pattern here? Changed
01:46:429 (7,8,9) - do a ctrl g on each of these individually for flow perhaps Why?

The second kiai seems like it's set up to get players to sliderbreak or lose a combo on the slider ends, with huge jumps in the opposite direction from the slider. I know I don't really like sections like that, so perhaps that could be remedied. 02:15:490 (5,6) and 02:19:474 (4,5) drew my attention the most Most of these are intentional. I might change 2:15, but not right now. I've spent all afternoon trying to tweak other patterns and I'm no longer in the mood to do extensive playtesting.

02:39:394 - Note here? The rest of the section fills in this beat, so I definitely think you should here as well Added

02:37:519 to 02:45:019 - I think this section over uses 1/2 repeating sliders. I think finding a pattern for each mini phrase and repeating that instead would work, and change it up, like sometimes do that repeater but also do circle slider, slider circle, three circles, y'know Nah

02:46:659 (5,6,7) - This short little idea I think could be expanded on, doing a sort of dual mapping where you catch the main beat but also adding in flourishes from this countermelody could make this section a lot more interesting I'll need to make adjustments here.

After that, I'd just be repeating things that I've already said, so keep that in mind and take a gander through the rest of your map. Meh. i will eventually. My mood is usually dead once I get this far into the map. Fortunately I think the intro parts are starting to come together. I might actually be able to pay attn to the later parts now.

Sorry for getting lazy at the end, I hope I helped. Good luck!
Moway
Hi, m4m here.

[General]

Be sure to set combocolours for all of your difficulties. Even if you want them to be the same as your default combos, you still have to set them so that everyone can see those colors.

[Easy]

OD-1 I think.

00:16:438 (2,3) - nazi blanket fix, I think moving the end point over to (357,241) fixes it fine.
00:36:125 (2) - endpoint to (152,359) for a cleaner blanket (nazi)
01:27:219 (4) - maybe ctrl+g this? I like the flow better since it will form a natural line from the end of 3 to 4 then to 5.
01:32:844 (1,2) - switch the NC around here. It would be more consistent with places like 01:48:313 (1) - where you NC on the slider that leads into the downbeat.
02:06:125 (1,2) - I think these would look cleaner if they were made symmetrical. You can do this pretty easily by shifting the endpoing of (1) to (200,56) and the end point of (2) to (408,112). I think this preserves the basic shape of what you wanted, but looks a little better imo.
02:40:344 (4,1,2) - this might throw beginners off a little bit. The sliders before were so constant on the white lines, then going to the red line object can be a bit tricky (even with spacing). I would say delete (1,2) and just map on the white lines here. You have that little synth hook at 02:38:469 (2) - as well and I think the 1/1 slider works just fine. Maybe use some circles to add variety. This will also help 02:43:391 (1) - which I think comes at an awkward time. There is a strong finish at 02:43:157 - that would be played if you stuck with white lines here.



03:28:157 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - All of these can be adjusted in order to make the blankets perfect. I think this is really important here because these slider seem specifically designed to blanket the circles, so tidying them up can help out a lot. Move 03:28:625 (2) - to (72,112). Move 03:30:032 (1) - to (280,232). Move 03:30:500 (2) - to (274,350). Move 03:31:907 (1) - to (483,231). Move 03:32:375 (2) - to (476,110). I think that should make everything look pretty good.




03:35:657 (2,3) - nazi blanket fix
03:40:344 (1,2) - nazi blanket fix
03:50:188 (3,4,5) - I think I'd like it here if you revisited that twice repeating slider for the high-pitched vocal.



[Normal]

I think a a lot of my suggestions will be to up the difficulty of this one a bit to differentiate it from your Easy diff.

00:14:797 - remove this green line. I think it would be better for consistency between your difficulties to have this part hitsounded with the normal sampleset.
00:19:719 - I would like an object here mainly because 00:19:250 (3,4) is basically the same as your Easy diff, so maybe try to differentiate from it here. I personally like moving 00:19:953 (4) - to 00:19:719 - and adding a repeat, but you could try something else also.
00:30:032 (1,2) - I think it would look really nice to have these two sliders reflect across the y axis. Maybe have 00:28:625 (4,5,6) - angle more to the left so that you can have 1 and 2 be reflections, which would fit with the symmetry you have going on in the map
00:38:000 (2,2) - i suppose this doesn't matter a whole lot since it's only noticable in the editor, but nazi stack
00:41:282 (1,1) - maybe make these reflect across the y axis
00:43:157 (1) - I think this is a boring way to do this, especially since this isn't your Easy diff. Why don't you do the same thing you did the last time in the high vocal and do something like 00:28:625 (4,5,6) - which is more fun and more fitting to your Normal diff, or maybe do something similar.
01:02:844 (6) - ctrl+h this for a more natural flow.
01:23:000 (2,1) - this overlap is a bit sloppy to me , even though you can't see it for very long. Might as well polish this up.
01:35:422 - I think you could use an object here. It matches the vocal well and adds a bit more challenge.
02:22:297 (2,3,4,5) - maybe make it so that (2,4) are on the same y value and (3,5) are on the same y value. Just a bit cleaner looking I think.\
03:00:500 (1) - make this symmetrical across the y-axis
03:25:344 (1) - i actually like this aimed straight down for that y-formation with 03:23:000 (1,2,3,4,5). I think the flow works out fine and it looks better to me.
03:25:344 (1,2) - swap NCs here to put the NC on the downbeat. Additionally, grouping the repeating slider with the group that it seems to finish off would work nicely.
03:36:125 (3,4) - I'd like for you to do a bit more with this. I leave it up to you, but I think this type of section is good for a harder thing for a Normal player to play. Right now this formation just feels like the Easy diff.
03:47:844 (1,2,3,4) - make this formation symmetrical? It would play basically the same but would look nicer.

Just as a general note. This difficulty is pretty much fine on its own, but I don't think the difficulty goes up enough from the Easy (apart from HP/AR/OD). go through it a bit to see if you can find anything which is too similar between this and your Easy diff and see what you can add do differentiate the two. I gave some examples of some things I've seen, but in general try to do a bit less 1/1 stuff which should be more fitting to your Easy diff.

[Hard]

00:38:235 (3,4) - maybe reangle (4) to form a blanket? It seems close enough to one where you might as well go for it.
01:15:266 - I think you should add a circle here. There's definitely a vocal part, and the next two circles correspond with the v. ocal, so you might as well make the fit perfect.
01:35:188 (5) - maybe make this one a slider to match the vocal part?

posting to save
Topic Starter
TheVileOne

Moway wrote:

Hi, m4m here.

[General]

Be sure to set combocolours for all of your difficulties. Even if you want them to be the same as your default combos, you still have to set them so that everyone can see those colors. Umm?

[Easy]

OD-1 I think. Why?

00:16:438 (2,3) - nazi blanket fix, I think moving the end point over to (357,241) fixes it fine. K
00:36:125 (2) - endpoint to (152,359) for a cleaner blanket (nazi) ^
01:27:219 (4) - maybe ctrl+g this? I like the flow better since it will form a natural line from the end of 3 to 4 then to 5. I agree
01:32:844 (1,2) - switch the NC around here. It would be more consistent with places like 01:48:313 (1) - where you NC on the slider that leads into the downbeat. Agree
02:06:125 (1,2) - I think these would look cleaner if they were made symmetrical. You can do this pretty easily by shifting the endpoing of (1) to (200,56) and the end point of (2) to (408,112). I think this preserves the basic shape of what you wanted, but looks a little better imo. Eh i'll keep my shape. This change will negatively affect my spacing transitions.
02:40:344 (4,1,2) - this might throw beginners off a little bit. The sliders before were so constant on the white lines, then going to the red line object can be a bit tricky (even with spacing). I would say delete (1,2) and just map on the white lines here. You have that little synth hook at 02:38:469 (2) - as well and I think the 1/1 slider works just fine. Maybe use some circles to add variety. This will also help 02:43:391 (1) - which I think comes at an awkward time. There is a strong finish at 02:43:157 - that would be played if you stuck with white lines here.

Remapped

03:28:157 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - All of these can be adjusted in order to make the blankets perfect. I think this is really important here because these slider seem specifically designed to blanket the circles, so tidying them up can help out a lot. Move 03:28:625 (2) - to (72,112). Move 03:30:032 (1) - to (280,232). Move 03:30:500 (2) - to (274,350). Move 03:31:907 (1) - to (483,231). Move 03:32:375 (2) - to (476,110). I think that should make everything look pretty good.



Done

03:35:657 (2,3) - nazi blanket fix I think I fixed it.
03:40:344 (1,2) - nazi blanket fix ^
03:50:188 (3,4,5) - I think I'd like it here if you revisited that twice repeating slider for the high-pitched vocal.

At this time i'm content with my own pattern.

[Normal]

I think a a lot of my suggestions will be to up the difficulty of this one a bit to differentiate it from your Easy diff. I will likely decline such attempts.

00:14:797 - remove this green line. I think it would be better for consistency between your difficulties to have this part hitsounded with the normal sampleset. Done
00:19:719 - I would like an object here mainly because 00:19:250 (3,4) is basically the same as your Easy diff, so maybe try to differentiate from it here. I personally like moving 00:19:953 (4) - to 00:19:719 - and adding a repeat, but you could try something else also. No. I want to strictly follow main vocals here. Adding the beat confuses the rhythm that I'm listening for when I play.
00:30:032 (1,2) - I think it would look really nice to have these two sliders reflect across the y axis. Maybe have 00:28:625 (4,5,6) - angle more to the left so that you can have 1 and 2 be reflections, which would fit with the symmetry you have going on in the map I'm not changing without a screenshot example. Flow > symmetry
00:38:000 (2,2) - i suppose this doesn't matter a whole lot since it's only noticable in the editor, but nazi stack done
00:41:282 (1,1) - maybe make these reflect across the y axis I didn't like the flow here. I changed the timeline a bit. It's no longer trying to be a symmetry pattern.
00:43:157 (1) - I think this is a boring way to do this, especially since this isn't your Easy diff. Why don't you do the same thing you did the last time in the high vocal and do something like 00:28:625 (4,5,6) - which is more fun and more fitting to your Normal diff, or maybe do something similar. I changed this to a simple 1/1 double note ending. i'm not doing the 1/2th pattern, because I don't consider that pattern a finisher. It's not meant to end at a break.
01:02:844 (6) - ctrl+h this for a more natural flow. Done
01:23:000 (2,1) - this overlap is a bit sloppy to me , even though you can't see it for very long. Might as well polish this up. There isn't an overlap. The hitburst is the only thing visible when the second slider appears and this hitburst is behind the object.
01:35:422 - I think you could use an object here. It matches the vocal well and adds a bit more challenge. I haven't mapped this vocal anywhere else in the map and don't plan to. This vocal shifts off beat during some other parts of the song and the beat is prevalent here. the beat sounds out of place in my largely vocal focused mapping.
02:22:297 (2,3,4,5) - maybe make it so that (2,4) are on the same y value and (3,5) are on the same y value. Just a bit cleaner looking I think.\ Cleaned up the slider shapes as well.
03:00:500 (1) - make this symmetrical across the y-axis Shifted, not sure if it's perfect though.
03:25:344 (1) - i actually like this aimed straight down for that y-formation with 03:23:000 (1,2,3,4,5). I think the flow works out fine and it looks better to me. Meh...Not sure if I want to change. I don't like your suggestion.
03:25:344 (1,2) - swap NCs here to put the NC on the downbeat. Additionally, grouping the repeating slider with the group that it seems to finish off would work nicely. Eh i'm going to keep for now because it matches better with a combo later on.
03:36:125 (3,4) - I'd like for you to do a bit more with this. I leave it up to you, but I think this type of section is good for a harder thing for a Normal player to play. Right now this formation just feels like the Easy diff. No.
03:47:844 (1,2,3,4) - make this formation symmetrical? It would play basically the same but would look nicer. Fixed

Just as a general note. This difficulty is pretty much fine on its own, but I don't think the difficulty goes up enough from the Easy (apart from HP/AR/OD). go through it a bit to see if you can find anything which is too similar between this and your Easy diff and see what you can add do differentiate the two. I gave some examples of some things I've seen, but in general try to do a bit less 1/1 stuff which should be more fitting to your Easy diff. I don't like how the 1/2ths sound in this difficulty, and placing them requires ugly transitions. I decided that simpler is better for this song. The beat is too weird to be mapped with my current difficulty settings.

[Hard]

00:38:235 (3,4) - maybe reangle (4) to form a blanket? It seems close enough to one where you might as well go for it.
01:15:266 - I think you should add a circle here. There's definitely a vocal part, and the next two circles correspond with the v. ocal, so you might as well make the fit perfect.
01:35:188 (5) - maybe make this one a slider to match the vocal part?

posting to save
Moway
Alright, back to mod the Insane. No kds.

[Insane]
00:24:875 (4,2) - Don't really like this overlap a whole ton. Maybe to preserve the flow of 00:25:344 (1,2,3), maybe just move 00:25:344 (1,2,3) down. I think having a bit bigger of a jump from (4) to (1) isn't a big deal and I think it looks nicer.
00:39:172 (1,2) - I would prefer for this to be a circle then a slider. Doing so would put the slider on the downbeat at 00:39:407 which plays stronger and matches the strong finish.
01:13:157 (7,8) - Maybe make these sliders have the same type of midpoint?
01:17:610 (4) - Move the first midpoint to the right more to make this have a more natural S-shape. Right now I feel like it is a bit too close to the sliderstart so the first curve is too steep.

01:27:922 (5) - this should be moved to 01:27:805 in order to match the vocal. Obviously then you would need to adjust your spacing a bit in order to make it work out, but I think it would be more fitting to the music.
02:51:828 (1,2) - I think a better way to map this part would be to do this:

This is 3 circles spaced 1/6, which I think fits the music much better. If you don't want the player to have to worry about hitting 1/6, then you can make this a repeat slider which would be easier to hit. I definitely think 1/6 is the way to go for this.
03:04:719 (3) - same suggestion as 01:17:610 (4), move the first midpoint to the right some more.
03:14:797 (7) - I think it would be nice to make this symmetrical across the y-axis to match the symmetry in the rest of this part.
Topic Starter
TheVileOne

Moway wrote:

Alright, back to mod the Insane. No kds.

[Insane]
00:24:875 (4,2) - Don't really like this overlap a whole ton. Maybe to preserve the flow of 00:25:344 (1,2,3), maybe just move 00:25:344 (1,2,3) down. I think having a bit bigger of a jump from (4) to (1) isn't a big deal and I think it looks nicer. Improving this in installments. I remapped the part before slightly and managed to stack on 2.
00:39:172 (1,2) - I would prefer for this to be a circle then a slider. Doing so would put the slider on the downbeat at 00:39:407 which plays stronger and matches the strong finish. I like this part too much to change it.
01:13:157 (7,8) - Maybe make these sliders have the same type of midpoint? It's not the same shape, but it now uses the same mdpoint.
01:17:610 (4) - Move the first midpoint to the right more to make this have a more natural S-shape. Right now I feel like it is a bit too close to the sliderstart so the first curve is too steep.

It's not meant to be entirely symmetrical, because it's not centered with the triple about it, but i made it uniform.
01:27:922 (5) - this should be moved to 01:27:805 in order to match the vocal. Obviously then you would need to adjust your spacing a bit in order to make it work out, but I think it would be more fitting to the music. Already tried every other form of this rhythm. This flows the most naturally IMO.
02:51:828 (1,2) - I think a better way to map this part would be to do this:

This is 3 circles spaced 1/6, which I think fits the music much better. If you don't want the player to have to worry about hitting 1/6, then you can make this a repeat slider which would be easier to hit. I definitely think 1/6 is the way to go for this. I disagree.
03:04:719 (3) - same suggestion as 01:17:610 (4), move the first midpoint to the right some more. Tweaked.
03:14:797 (7) - I think it would be nice to make this symmetrical across the y-axis to match the symmetry in the rest of this part. Fixed.
_Erra_
Hii,m4m
Normal
CS - 3
Easy
CS - 2 (i think)
AR - 2
OD - 3
00:31:907 (3,4) - edit sliders
http://cs322727.vk.me/v322727184/3067/RqCQf3vv6nw.jpg
00:53:703 (2) - delete cricle, slider end in 00:54:407 (white tick)
00:57:453 - ^
02:08:703 - ^
02:12:453 - ^
03:22:532 (1) - delete cricles, add slider(x:256, y:96)
http://cs322727.vk.me/v322727184/3071/q5CdtA-SDlE.jpg
Hard
CS - 4
00:27:922 (1) - im not like this, it's unkank,not?
00:52:532 (1,2,3) - edit it
00:54:641 (1,2) - down an x:328, y:256(because slider is down :D)
01:19:719 (3) - remove new combo
01:20:657 (1) - i think delete slider and add spinner
03:35:422 (1) - delete slider, add spinner
Topic Starter
TheVileOne

_Erra_ wrote:

Hii,m4m
Normal
CS - 3 Agree
Easy
CS - 2 (i think) ok
AR - 2 Disagree
OD - 3 ...
00:31:907 (3,4) - edit sliders
http://cs322727.vk.me/v322727184/3067/RqCQf3vv6nw.jpg Done something similar.
00:53:703 (2) - delete cricle, slider end in 00:54:407 (white tick) No
00:57:453 - ^ ^
02:08:703 - ^ ^
02:12:453 - ^ ^
03:22:532 (1) - delete cricles, add slider(x:256, y:96) Prefer the way I have it now.
http://cs322727.vk.me/v322727184/3071/q5CdtA-SDlE.jpg
Hard
CS - 4
00:27:922 (1) - im not like this, it's unkank,not? I like it. Not changing.
00:52:532 (1,2,3) - edit it Fixed
00:54:641 (1,2) - down an x:328, y:256(because slider is down :D)
01:19:719 (3) - remove new combo ???
01:20:657 (1) - i think delete slider and add spinner No
03:35:422 (1) - delete slider, add spinner No
luxoDeh
Hi! finally this M4M! sorry for lateness >.<

EASY

01:06:594 (2) - maybe if you flip this vertically the flow will be better.
01:08:938 (3) - I don't know, maybe is better make it curve too. maybe there is no sense in making a single staight slider like this there.
01:21:594 (2,3) - maybe you can make this blancked a bit better
01:16:907 (4) - maybe just move this 1 grid down to make it symmetric with the previous one
01:25:813 (2) - just move the last point of the slider one grid up for perfect blancket (just if you want to be veeery precise XD)
01:27:219 (4) - move this to x:248 - y:260 for perfect blancket
01:41:282 (3) - just one grid down without grid snapping >.< (always very little things)
02:21:594 (2,3) - this part is the same as before, so if you changed it before you should do the same here.
02:44:094 (3,4) - you can make this blancket perfect
02:51:594 (1,2) - there is a strong clap here 02:52:063 - and I think you should make it hear. maybe you can do something like this 02:58:625 (4) - move it to x:196 - y:156 for better blancket. also I don't know if these 4 repeat are well readable here. if you really want to keep them maybe you should make the slider start at 02:58:157 - and of caurse delete 02:58:157 (3) - and add a note then at 03:00:032 -
03:09:407 (3) - maybe is better if you make this slider follow better the curve of 03:10:344 (4) -
03:19:250 (1,1) - maybe this is too soon after the spinner?

NORMAL

00:24:875 (2,3) - I think maybe you can blancket better as you did 00:20:657 (1,2) - here.
00:38:938 (4,2) - maybe try to place them at the same high
01:25:344 (2) - move this to x:220 - y:328 and then move also 01:27:219 (4) - one grid down
01:55:344 (3,4,5) - I think these 3 notes don't fit well here. it seems like you did it just for pattern with this. but I think it will sound better a rhythm like this 02:44:328 (5) - maybe delete a reverse and add a note at 02:45:032 - ?
02:58:625 (3) - isn't it the only long 4 reverse slider of the map? maybe you can avoid this. and also if you really want to keep it just make it start at 02:58:157 -

AKONFREAK'S HARD

00:20:657 (4,5) - better blancket?
00:23:703 (7) - I think this should start at 00:23:821 - and here 00:23:703 - there should be a note
01:00:032 (1,2) - blancket better?
01:01:203 (3) - ^
01:16:907 (1) - maybe move one grid right?
01:23:821 (5) - shouldn't this end at 01:24:055 - ?
01:39:524 - add a note?
03:34:953 - missing note here? O.o
03:49:953 - here too... maybe you did intentional, but I think you should add one.

HARD

00:26:282 (3) - make the same inclination as the previous one?
01:13:508 - add a note?
01:07:297 (5,4) - in all the map you put some noter also in these thick, like 01:07:414 - or 01:09:524 -
01:15:032 - I think also you should add a note here, also with finish, it's important make hear this.
01:23:938 (6) - I think you should move this to 01:24:055 -
01:30:266 - add a note here?
01:36:594 (3) - why is the form of this slider strangely symmetric to the other one?
02:54:641 (5,6) - blancoet better
03:12:219 (6,7,8) - you can blancket all them better.

INSANE

01:16:555 - add a note here? is insane diff, and is better make this part different from hard also.
01:27:805 - add a note?
01:30:383 - add a note?
01:38:821 - ^
maybe this diff should be a bit harder in some points...

that's all! good luck with the map :)
DrakeCuriel
Not a mod, but I definitely feel like the circle size needs to be bigger on Insane. Jumpy maps don't really tend to have a high CS value, and those that do are usually absurdly fast. I don't think it fits the difficulty of the map. This is an opinion from me, so don't feel like you have to apply it, but if other people have also said this, bear that in mind.
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