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08:35 *grumd is editing (Kagamine Rin - Adult's Toy)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/47846]
08:35 SapphireGhost: : mmhmm
08:35 grumd: : 00:56:844 (6) - this slider must be 1/2 for couple of reasons
08:35 grumd: : you have used similar rhythm before and
08:35 grumd: : imo you have to place a slider start on the downbeat, it's a heavy beat
08:36 grumd: : and after this, just move next slider to the downbeat and extend to 1/1
08:36 SapphireGhost: : I guess so
08:37 SapphireGhost: : Whenever I have to change something in a map it's always tough to make everything fit together again
08:37 grumd: : i know that feel
08:37 grumd: : but please try to
08:37 SapphireGhost: : (4,5,6,1) all line up in a special way so now I have to euahgeuhegha
08:37 grumd: : at least trying is not a big pain
08:37 grumd: : and you probably can find even a better pattern
08:39 grumd: : 01:24:808 (2) - this one is far easier to fix. imo, move this note to 01:25:130 and move the next slider here
08:39 grumd: : uhm, let me screenshot
08:39 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413567
08:39 grumd: : just moving a stack, pretty easy to fix and this rhythm matches the vocals very good
08:40 grumd: : 01:31:558 - hm, i really wish to see a note here
08:42 grumd: : 01:53:094 (7) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413570 placing this note like this flows better with the slider shape imo
08:42 SapphireGhost: : I'm honestly trying to still change the first one
08:43 grumd: : i'm just keeping these all here, check them after you're fone with the first one
08:43 grumd: : *done
08:43 SapphireGhost: : This is making me very sad
08:45 SapphireGhost: : I can't find a good way to change this
08:45 SapphireGhost: : Can I just keep it
08:45 grumd: : wellp, keep it as for now
08:45 grumd: : i will also turn on creativity and try to find some ways for a fix
08:45 grumd: : and show you if i find them
08:46 grumd: : now pls get to other suggestions :3
08:46 SapphireGhost: : I've had to do so much today
08:46 SapphireGhost: : I'm going to fall down a chair
08:46 grumd: : :c
08:46 grumd: : i can savelog and post it so you can find everything later
08:46 SapphireGhost: : nope
08:46 SapphireGhost: : I want to get this over with
08:46 grumd: : oh okay
08:47 SapphireGhost: : I don't have any problems with 01:24:814
08:48 grumd: : 02:05:630 (7,8,9) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413573 try this rearrangement. check the slider serial numbers, number
08:48 grumd: : of repeats for each one and check where the upcoming stream starts
08:49 SapphireGhost: : That wouls make the distance from the end of (9) to (1) too high
08:49 SapphireGhost: : And if I change (1) and stuff then I have to change all this other stuff
08:49 SapphireGhost: : And then stuff is ad
08:50 grumd: : kk
08:50 grumd: : just suggesting
08:51 grumd: : 02:22:558 (1) - hm, i feel that the rhythm is a bit wrong. try this, it matches the vocals and the guitar both o3o
08:51 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413578 (also a notbad idea for a pattern)
08:53 SapphireGhost: : Doesn't that end a slider on a big white tick
08:53 SapphireGhost: : I thought you didn't like that
08:53 grumd: : it fits here
08:54 grumd: : just listen to it, ticks don't really matter when everything sounds cool. but when it doesnt, ticks are a very good
08:54 grumd: : explanation why xD
08:56 grumd: : 04:31:343 - hm, i never liked how people start sliders on a finishing sound.. slider is not a note and you shouldn't
08:56 grumd: : press anything to start it.. so it's like missing a note for me. try to do this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413585
08:58 SapphireGhost: : Then I won't have 1069 objects anymore
08:58 grumd: : ._.
08:58 SapphireGhost: : Is this note worth it
08:58 grumd: : yes
08:59 grumd: : about the first one.. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413588 this? or probably ctrl+R short slider
08:59 grumd: : and also probably stack the middle of the long slider with (4)
08:59 SapphireGhost: : I don't have that (5,6) stuff anywhere else in the map so I'd rather not do that
09:01 SapphireGhost: : Can I upload this now
09:01 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413590 this is quite stupid but lol.. stacked with (4) end
09:01 SapphireGhost: : ahh too much weird stuff
09:01 SapphireGhost: : Maybe I'll put this in a Brett Domino map
09:02 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413594 eeh this?
09:02 grumd: : looks good (you'll have to move (4,5,6,7) a bit to the right to avoid offscreen slider end
09:02 SapphireGhost: : Same thing about that not being anywhere else in the map
09:03 grumd: : 00:52:237 (2,3) - quite similar
09:03 grumd: : just ctrl+r'd
09:04 SapphireGhost: : But it's not the same!
09:05 grumd: : kk..
09:05 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413600 i guess this is also too unique?
09:05 grumd: : 00:59:951 (4,5,1,2) - but hmm
09:06 grumd: : 01:14:951 (4,5) - or like this
09:06 SapphireGhost: : Is this superduper important to you for some reason
09:06 grumd: : it is
09:07 grumd: : if it was my map, i'd fight till the end
09:07 grumd: : and almost every map i mod is like my own too
09:07 grumd: : i care about it's improvement like if it was my map you know
09:07 SapphireGhost: : If this is the last thing I have to change then I'll do it
09:08 grumd: : the last one, yup
09:09 grumd: : what way to fix have you choosen?
09:10 grumd: : 04:00:057 (1,2) - btw, you have never done this in any other place in this map
09:10 grumd: : so if you're so critical with outstanding patterns...
09:11 SapphireGhost: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413604 This is the only thing I could think of that could fit in stuff
09:11 grumd: : well, pretty good looking i think
09:11 SapphireGhost: : I've decided not to care anymore
09:11 SapphireGhost: : Well, not that
09:11 SapphireGhost: : It depends on what sort of thing it is
09:11 SapphireGhost: : If you asked me to put a note under a slider I would die
09:12 grumd: : lol
09:12 grumd: : do not die pls
09:12 grumd: : but you know
09:12 grumd: : http://puu.sh/YV2r
09:12 SapphireGhost: : Apparently everyone hates that
09:13 SapphireGhost: : Oh it's offcentre by two pixels
09:13 SapphireGhost: : Anyway
09:13 SapphireGhost: : Can I please be done with this
09:14 grumd: : i've seen offcenter by ~8 pixels but thought you dont care o/o
09:14 grumd: : o.o
09:14 SapphireGhost: : kill everything ever and eat it
09:14 grumd: : if you want, i can check nazi stuff too
09:14 SapphireGhost: : I'm going to upload this now
09:14 grumd: : well, you have no limits for updates so do it lol
09:15 grumd: : you anyway can upload once more in a few minutes, dont you?
09:15 SapphireGhost: : Are you going to make me upload it again
09:15 grumd: : 00:24:487 (1) - ~1-2 pixels off
09:15 grumd: : if you care of such stuff :3
09:16 SapphireGhost: : No because it looks fine
09:16 SapphireGhost: : If you want to post this log I'll give you kudosu for it
09:16 SapphireGhost: : Because I'd like to do something else nowwww
09:17 grumd: : kk i'm fine with some pixels stuff so savelogging
08:35 SapphireGhost: : mmhmm
08:35 grumd: : 00:56:844 (6) - this slider must be 1/2 for couple of reasons
08:35 grumd: : you have used similar rhythm before and
08:35 grumd: : imo you have to place a slider start on the downbeat, it's a heavy beat
08:36 grumd: : and after this, just move next slider to the downbeat and extend to 1/1
08:36 SapphireGhost: : I guess so
08:37 SapphireGhost: : Whenever I have to change something in a map it's always tough to make everything fit together again
08:37 grumd: : i know that feel
08:37 grumd: : but please try to
08:37 SapphireGhost: : (4,5,6,1) all line up in a special way so now I have to euahgeuhegha
08:37 grumd: : at least trying is not a big pain
08:37 grumd: : and you probably can find even a better pattern
08:39 grumd: : 01:24:808 (2) - this one is far easier to fix. imo, move this note to 01:25:130 and move the next slider here
08:39 grumd: : uhm, let me screenshot
08:39 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413567
08:39 grumd: : just moving a stack, pretty easy to fix and this rhythm matches the vocals very good
08:40 grumd: : 01:31:558 - hm, i really wish to see a note here
08:42 grumd: : 01:53:094 (7) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413570 placing this note like this flows better with the slider shape imo
08:42 SapphireGhost: : I'm honestly trying to still change the first one
08:43 grumd: : i'm just keeping these all here, check them after you're fone with the first one
08:43 grumd: : *done
08:43 SapphireGhost: : This is making me very sad
08:45 SapphireGhost: : I can't find a good way to change this
08:45 SapphireGhost: : Can I just keep it
08:45 grumd: : wellp, keep it as for now
08:45 grumd: : i will also turn on creativity and try to find some ways for a fix
08:45 grumd: : and show you if i find them
08:46 grumd: : now pls get to other suggestions :3
08:46 SapphireGhost: : I've had to do so much today
08:46 SapphireGhost: : I'm going to fall down a chair
08:46 grumd: : :c
08:46 grumd: : i can savelog and post it so you can find everything later
08:46 SapphireGhost: : nope
08:46 SapphireGhost: : I want to get this over with
08:46 grumd: : oh okay
08:47 SapphireGhost: : I don't have any problems with 01:24:814
08:48 grumd: : 02:05:630 (7,8,9) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413573 try this rearrangement. check the slider serial numbers, number
08:48 grumd: : of repeats for each one and check where the upcoming stream starts
08:49 SapphireGhost: : That wouls make the distance from the end of (9) to (1) too high
08:49 SapphireGhost: : And if I change (1) and stuff then I have to change all this other stuff
08:49 SapphireGhost: : And then stuff is ad
08:50 grumd: : kk
08:50 grumd: : just suggesting
08:51 grumd: : 02:22:558 (1) - hm, i feel that the rhythm is a bit wrong. try this, it matches the vocals and the guitar both o3o
08:51 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413578 (also a notbad idea for a pattern)
08:53 SapphireGhost: : Doesn't that end a slider on a big white tick
08:53 SapphireGhost: : I thought you didn't like that
08:53 grumd: : it fits here
08:54 grumd: : just listen to it, ticks don't really matter when everything sounds cool. but when it doesnt, ticks are a very good
08:54 grumd: : explanation why xD
08:56 grumd: : 04:31:343 - hm, i never liked how people start sliders on a finishing sound.. slider is not a note and you shouldn't
08:56 grumd: : press anything to start it.. so it's like missing a note for me. try to do this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413585
08:58 SapphireGhost: : Then I won't have 1069 objects anymore
08:58 grumd: : ._.
08:58 SapphireGhost: : Is this note worth it
08:58 grumd: : yes
08:59 grumd: : about the first one.. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413588 this? or probably ctrl+R short slider
08:59 grumd: : and also probably stack the middle of the long slider with (4)
08:59 SapphireGhost: : I don't have that (5,6) stuff anywhere else in the map so I'd rather not do that
09:01 SapphireGhost: : Can I upload this now
09:01 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413590 this is quite stupid but lol.. stacked with (4) end
09:01 SapphireGhost: : ahh too much weird stuff
09:01 SapphireGhost: : Maybe I'll put this in a Brett Domino map
09:02 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413594 eeh this?
09:02 grumd: : looks good (you'll have to move (4,5,6,7) a bit to the right to avoid offscreen slider end
09:02 SapphireGhost: : Same thing about that not being anywhere else in the map
09:03 grumd: : 00:52:237 (2,3) - quite similar
09:03 grumd: : just ctrl+r'd
09:04 SapphireGhost: : But it's not the same!
09:05 grumd: : kk..
09:05 grumd: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413600 i guess this is also too unique?
09:05 grumd: : 00:59:951 (4,5,1,2) - but hmm
09:06 grumd: : 01:14:951 (4,5) - or like this
09:06 SapphireGhost: : Is this superduper important to you for some reason
09:06 grumd: : it is
09:07 grumd: : if it was my map, i'd fight till the end
09:07 grumd: : and almost every map i mod is like my own too
09:07 grumd: : i care about it's improvement like if it was my map you know
09:07 SapphireGhost: : If this is the last thing I have to change then I'll do it
09:08 grumd: : the last one, yup
09:09 grumd: : what way to fix have you choosen?
09:10 grumd: : 04:00:057 (1,2) - btw, you have never done this in any other place in this map
09:10 grumd: : so if you're so critical with outstanding patterns...
09:11 SapphireGhost: : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/413604 This is the only thing I could think of that could fit in stuff
09:11 grumd: : well, pretty good looking i think
09:11 SapphireGhost: : I've decided not to care anymore
09:11 SapphireGhost: : Well, not that
09:11 SapphireGhost: : It depends on what sort of thing it is
09:11 SapphireGhost: : If you asked me to put a note under a slider I would die
09:12 grumd: : lol
09:12 grumd: : do not die pls
09:12 grumd: : but you know
09:12 grumd: : http://puu.sh/YV2r
09:12 SapphireGhost: : Apparently everyone hates that
09:13 SapphireGhost: : Oh it's offcentre by two pixels
09:13 SapphireGhost: : Anyway
09:13 SapphireGhost: : Can I please be done with this
09:14 grumd: : i've seen offcenter by ~8 pixels but thought you dont care o/o
09:14 grumd: : o.o
09:14 SapphireGhost: : kill everything ever and eat it
09:14 grumd: : if you want, i can check nazi stuff too
09:14 SapphireGhost: : I'm going to upload this now
09:14 grumd: : well, you have no limits for updates so do it lol
09:15 grumd: : you anyway can upload once more in a few minutes, dont you?
09:15 SapphireGhost: : Are you going to make me upload it again
09:15 grumd: : 00:24:487 (1) - ~1-2 pixels off
09:15 grumd: : if you care of such stuff :3
09:16 SapphireGhost: : No because it looks fine
09:16 SapphireGhost: : If you want to post this log I'll give you kudosu for it
09:16 SapphireGhost: : Because I'd like to do something else nowwww
09:17 grumd: : kk i'm fine with some pixels stuff so savelogging
NatsumeRin wrote:
I strongly suggest to use 1.2 or even less SV... it looks like... too crazy (though the map is crazy as hell too)
I still agree that current 1.4 SV looks kinda Hard-Rocked, but 1.2 is too low imo. Yes, this song is outstanding, 280bpm and stuff, so we can break guidelines, but I suggest 1.3 SV - it looks just as every usual taiko map (1/4's overlap slightly)Taiko Guidelines wrote:
The Slider Velocity should be 1.40 or 1.60.