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07th Expansion - dreamenddischarger

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Heatherfield
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2012年10月28日 at 17:12:26

Artist: 07th Expansion
Title: dreamenddischarger
Source: Umineko no Naku Koro ni
Tags: when they cry zts yuka baca y_u_c_a aiaiclala
BPM: 140
Filesize: 4665kb
Play Time: 03:20
Difficulties Available:
  1. Dream End (4.98 stars, 710 notes)
  2. Normal (2.97 stars, 237 notes)
  3. yuca (4.65 stars, 468 notes)
Download: 07th Expansion - dreamenddischarger
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Chinese-Japanese collaboration mapset.
Megurine Luka
你占我一个沙发所以我决定怒占回来._.

这真是巨蠢233


EDIT:不Ctrl+2么少年
ArzatoRx


为什么只有板凳

巨蠢

啧 还不够字数阿

蠢burst
Ibuki Suika
美国大哥实在是太厉害了

Your message is too short.
GinzZ_old
实在是太厉害了

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Hatsune Miku_old
美国大哥实在太厉害了

去你母的字数补丁……
Topic Starter
Heatherfield

Megurine Luka wrote:

你占我一个沙发所以我决定怒占回来._.

这真是巨蠢233


EDIT:不Ctrl+2么少年
我本来打算ctrl 4我会告诉你吗233
y u c a
巨春虫虫飯(・∀・)!!!!                                                                    
kyuten
巨春虫虫飯(・∀・)!!!!
Asagiri Mai
疼我一脸
建议吃点
Anticloud
我跟你讲 你这心态就不对
mayosiiiiii
(・∀・)∀・)!!!!
Topic Starter
Heatherfield
so f**king hard
tsuka
难听的话
y u c a
baka飯 gomen im laaate!
finished now!


http://puu.sh/15dG6
Topic Starter
Heatherfield

y u c a wrote:

baka飯 gomen im laaate!
finished now!


http://puu.sh/15dG6
hontoni arigato!

ok here we go.
bakabaka
Mod in Irc x3
SPOILER
10:05 Heatherfield: 哈喽
10:05 Heatherfield: 接mod request嘛?
10:05 Heatherfield: 或者m4m
10:05 bakabaka: 我只會ircMOD耶 /.\
10:06 Heatherfield: 也可以啊 :o
10:06 bakabaka: :o
10:06 *Heatherfield is editing (07th Expansion - dreamenddischarger)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/36595]
10:20 bakabaka: :O
10:20 Heatherfield: :o
10:20 bakabaka: 01:00:592 (1) - 好像只能轉到1000 :O
10:20 Heatherfield: 诶 现在不是1000也可以吗
10:20 bakabaka: 是嗎:OOO
10:20 bakabaka: 我不知道耶 >_<
10:20 Heatherfield: 我记得好像哪次有改过 我去查下
10:23 Heatherfield: :o 是1000
10:23 bakabaka: :OOO
10:23 bakabaka: 恩:3
10:23 bakabaka: 01:21:913 (1,1,2,3) - 後面的slider要不要移開點~完全看不見了:O
10:23 Heatherfield: 唔..好像的确不符合规定
10:24 Heatherfield: 往哪边移动比较好呢
10:26 bakabaka: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/433568 這樣怎麼樣":O
10:27 bakabaka: 01:22:556 (1,2,3) - 然後slider頭的NC移到1
10:30 Heatherfield: nc移到哪里?
10:30 bakabaka: 01:22:556 (1) -
10:30 Heatherfield: 哦哦
10:30 bakabaka: :P
10:30 Heatherfield: 我决定还是给slider转个方向
10:30 bakabaka: : o
10:31 Heatherfield: 还是给stack起来比较好
10:31 bakabaka: 恩
10:31 Heatherfield: http://puu.sh/15wkr
10:32 Heatherfield: 这样应该可以吧
10:32 bakabaka: 可以~ :>
10:33 bakabaka: 01:14:413-總感覺這裡少個音 : o
10:34 Heatherfield: 诶 好像没有诶
10:35 bakabaka: 那不管惹:O
10:35 Heatherfield: :o
10:35 bakabaka: 01:43:985 (5,6,1) - 1上的nc移到5吧 :P
10:35 Heatherfield: 好
10:36 bakabaka: 01:46:020 (6) - 要不要往前1/4拍~總感覺這裡二連有點違和
10:37 Heatherfield: :o 蛮不错
10:37 Heatherfield: 好的
10:38 bakabaka: 然後疊到4上 : o
10:38 Heatherfield: 嗯
10:38 bakabaka: 01:55:127 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 鬼畜到了極點lol
10:39 Heatherfield: w
10:39 Heatherfield: 没人读出来过
10:39 Heatherfield: 不过鼓点就是1/6
10:40 bakabaka: 我覺得不要疊一起比較好
10:41 Heatherfield: 好像也试过别的摆法..都不好读
10:42 bakabaka: 可是感覺一定會被挑耶lol
10:42 Heatherfield: 唔..我再试试看怎么摆比较好看
10:44 Heatherfield: http://puu.sh/15wx9
10:44 Heatherfield: 这样会好点吗
10:44 bakabaka: 恩 :D
10:44 Heatherfield: 唔 那就这样吧
10:45 bakabaka: 02:17:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 這邊間距要不要改一下:O
10:45 bakabaka: 跟前面有點像~感覺會判斷錯 OTZ
10:45 Heatherfield: 改大吗
10:45 bakabaka: 恩
10:45 Heatherfield: 其实我看别人打好像是没怎么读错过 不过我也觉得比较像不太好
10:46 Heatherfield: 我把grid开小点调大下好了
10:46 bakabaka: 恩:O
10:47 bakabaka: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/433576 感覺這樣也不錯耶lol
10:49 Heatherfield: 噢
10:49 Heatherfield: 蛮好的
10:49 bakabaka: 阿~後面這裡也有耶02:24:056 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
10:51 Heatherfield: 嗯
10:52 bakabaka: 03:10:556 (5,6) - 感覺這樣打起來後面就有點卡手耶:O
10:53 bakabaka: 看要不要去掉後面的slider,前面的slider加折返,後面接個note
10:54 Heatherfield: 诶 会难打吗
10:54 Heatherfield: 我这种一般就胡乱按两下反正不会断 haha
10:54 bakabaka: 這邊其實不會
10:54 bakabaka: 03:16:985 (2,3) - 可是我覺得這邊有點難打OTZ
10:55 Heatherfield: 唔...
10:55 Heatherfield: 这边感觉怎么排都难打
10:55 bakabaka: 要不要後面這個改~取個對稱:P
10:55 bakabaka: 我是覺得改了之後會比較好打點 OTZ
10:56 Heatherfield: 其实折返+note好像也不是很好读耶
10:56 bakabaka: 有嗎
10:57 bakabaka: 因為按起來都是1/2拍~我覺得好按些:P
10:57 Heatherfield: 按起来的话的确是没什么区别..
10:57 Heatherfield: 唔 这个还是不改了 我把间距弄小点吧
10:57 bakabaka: :<
10:58 bakabaka: 03:19:556 (6,7,8,1) - 這整坨要不要往上提
10:58 Heatherfield: :o这样不符合规定吗
10:58 bakabaka: 總感覺連打完slider在note斜下方會比較好接而已:D
10:59 Heatherfield: 因为是跟上面的note成平行四边形所以才摆到这么下面
10:59 bakabaka: 阿:O
10:59 bakabaka: 那就這樣了~沒了:P
10:59 Heatherfield: :o
10:59 Heatherfield: 要不要看看油卡的难度
10:59 bakabaka: : o
11:04 bakabaka: 01:19:342 (2) - 除了這裡感覺有折返遮以外~其他MOD不出來:<
11:04 Heatherfield: 喔
11:04 Heatherfield: 我回头问问她
11:05 bakabaka: 恩:>
11:05 Heatherfield: 多谢你啦 :D

Good luck :)
taka1235
中日友好 :D
mosluv
These are all suggestions. Feel free to ignore them all.

Normal:
  1. 02:27:913 (4) - Break after this? Unless you wanted the hp drain to go down and for the player to pick it up.
  2. 03:06:485 (1) - I think using whistles from here to the end sounds nice.
yuca:

Didn't find anything. ;o

 
Dream End:
  1. 01:01:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The placement looks really random. Maybe change it up a bit.
  2. 01:08:842 - Having nothing here breaks the flow. Maybe add a note here with whistle or change the previous pattern up a bit.
  3. 01:10:770 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think it sounds better if u follow the previous hitsound pattern. Whistle on 1, 4, and the end of 5.
  4. 01:58:127 (1) to 02:01:342 (4) - The beat placement looks really ugly here, like you just placed them anywhere.
  5. 02:28:770 (1) to 02:31:770 (13) - ^
  6. 02:56:413 (2,4,6,8) - Make these aligned like 1,3,5,7. Plays better imo. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/434799
  7. 02:59:627 (1) to 03:11:199 (8) - Not sure if this was intentional, but the patterns just go in a circle during this part. I never thought excessive circle patterns were that interesting. This is just my opinion though, you might really like going in a circle like this.
  8. 03:17:413 (1) to 03:20:306 (1) - Beat placement looks random again.
:)
Topic Starter
Heatherfield
SPOILER

Nexy wrote:

These are all suggestions. Feel free to ignore them all.

Normal:
  1. 02:27:913 (4) - Break after this? Unless you wanted the hp drain to go down and for the player to pick it up.opps i forgot to fix this
  2. 03:06:485 (1) - I think using whistles from here to the end sounds nice.
since it's all 1/1 beat, I don't know how to use whistle here.. i tried but sounds a little boring

yuca:

Didn't find anything. ;o

 
Dream End:
  1. 01:01:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The placement looks really random. Maybe change it up a bit. fixed
  2. 01:08:842 - Having nothing here breaks the flow. Maybe add a note here with whistle or change the previous pattern up a bit. fixed
  3. 01:10:770 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think it sounds better if u follow the previous hitsound pattern. Whistle on 1, 4, and the end of 5. nice idea
  4. 01:58:127 (1) to 02:01:342 (4) - The beat placement looks really ugly here, like you just placed them anywhere. indeed, fixed
  5. 02:28:770 (1) to 02:31:770 (13) - ^fixed
  6. 02:56:413 (2,4,6,8) - Make these aligned like 1,3,5,7. Plays better imo. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/434799 hmmm changed a bit but i still insist to have an increase in distance
  7. 02:59:627 (1) to 03:11:199 (8) - Not sure if this was intentional, but the patterns just go in a circle during this part. I never thought excessive circle patterns were that interesting. This is just my opinion though, you might really like going in a circle like this. i found my habit of placing around too lol, but i think it won't be a problem for gameplay so i'll just leave it here
  8. 03:17:413 (1) to 03:20:306 (1) - Beat placement looks random again.
fixed

:)
thx a lot! really helpful. also changed some other parts which were ugly
James
nice map 8-)
[DBF]

James wrote:

nice map 8-)
Sooo tricky.

Btw, yes, nice map.
y u c a
if nice map, go play with hidden and get S
James

y u c a wrote:

if nice map, go play with hidden and get S
i take it back, bad map
Low
i giggled a bit
Ibuki Suika

James wrote:

bad map
[DBF]
[Dream End]
At end of the map you need to fix spacing because it was like "ohhh i'm so lazy, fuck spacing!" or it's just hard for me to play it, i don't know! Make it more playable if you can, because it's look a littlebit chaos!

No kudosu, please.

I do it not because yuca ask, only for you! ♥
AngelHoney
SPOILER
AngelHoney 23:40:43
123
盒饭 23:40:54
321
AngelHoney 23:41:16
为啥我觉得你这图2暴了
什么时候的图
这哨子听的蛋疼._.
盒饭 23:41:58
大概半年前的图吧
AngelHoney 23:42:08
.
00:42:485 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 这尼玛什么间距啊 坑人么 这不是
00:44:842 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,3,4,1) - 这一段我蛋碎了._. 节奏音效排列..
01:00:592 (1) - 意义不明
AngelHoney 23:43:47
这一段newcombo意义不明 纯粹是想到了铁斧?
盒饭 23:43:41

AngelHoney 23:43:49
01:04:985 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3,1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,3) -
盒饭 23:44:03

AngelHoney 23:45:06
01:25:342 (1) - 貌似3个点都加哨子还行?
01:28:127 (7,8,9) - 这种8+9排列纯粹是想坑人吧._.?
盒饭 23:45:59
大多数人都读出来了 0,0
AngelHoney 23:46:15
没说读不出 , 是按法
或者说玩法?
01:41:627 (1,2,3,1) - 坑人排列
AngelHoney 23:47:39
01:47:199 (1,2,3,4) - 134哨子? 然后4个这滑条的节奏略诡异?
盒饭 23:49:24
34连一起哨子好像有点吵
AngelHoney 23:49:40
01:51:056 (1) - 到2分10秒哪里 是不是没梗了
感觉节奏会略醒目点? 随你
盒饭 23:50:54
01:58:127 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - 这两小节的确是凑出来的

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AngelHoney 23:51:53
02:09:913 (1,1,1,1,1) - 这段滑条开头都用70%音量?
盒饭 23:52:28

AngelHoney 23:53:00
02:11:627 (1) - 这个音量提升? or + finish
02:14:627 (1,2,3) - 你敢别像我一样这么懒么0_0
盒饭 23:54:14
233
AngelHoney 23:54:39
02:17:199 (1,2,3,4) - 不能改成123 都1/2拍么
02:24:056 (1,2,3,4) - ^ or 其他
02:25:342 (1) - finish?
盒饭 23:55:32

.
原来2:24那我改了以为前面的一样
AngelHoney 23:55:53
02:37:342 (1) - 这一段敢提升音量么
AngelHoney 23:57:05
02:45:485 (13) - 哨子?
02:48:913 (4) - ^
02:50:842 (6) - ^
盒饭 23:58:20
提音量是指后面都提吗
AngelHoney 23:58:25
02:52:342 (8) - ^ (02:51:913 (5) - ^)
02:37:342 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 明显为了突出这段啊0_0
或123
盒饭 23:58:59

123456好了
AngelHoney 23:59:18
你全场50% 搞毛啊._.
02:56:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 敢删了重来么
AngelHoney 0:00:21
02:59:627 (1,2,3,4) - 个人觉得改成略串 有趣点
03:05:627 (1,2,1,2) - 随便你
盒饭 0:01:41
02:56:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 敢删了重来么
是指排列吗
AngelHoney 0:01:58
节奏和排列
kiai的真那啥
kiai的哨子*
惨不忍睹
盒饭 0:02:51
0_0 我感觉哨子的思路和你不一样
AngelHoney 0:03:07
你是全后不一样好不
全面能听 , 后面完全就是单一思路
还是说不合适 . 反正kiai后半段哨子...0_0
AngelHoney 0:06:40
看了以前的图 , 发觉自己真善良
真善美说的就是我吧0.0
盒饭 0:06:54

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Topic Starter
Heatherfield
fixed spacing and AHO's mod :)
avira0922
star支援(ノ´∀`*) まーべらす!
KogumaX
log
14:59 kogumano-putaro: ~normal~
15:00 kogumano-putaro: 00:33:806 - ここから始まるnormal hitsoundの音量が少し大きく感じます 
15:00 kogumano-putaro: 少しでいいので音量を下げたほうがいいと思いました:D
15:00 Heatherfield: ok
15:03 kogumano-putaro: 全体的にnewconboが多いと思ったのでもうちょっと減らしてもいいと思います
15:04 kogumano-putaro: 03:17:627 (1) -
15:04 Heatherfield: hmm
15:04 kogumano-putaro: 03:18:485 (1) -
15:04 Heatherfield: i'll change some
15:05 kogumano-putaro: normalで気になったのはこのくらいですね~以上です>_<
15:05 Heatherfield: ok > <
15:05 kogumano-putaro: yucaさんno
15:06 kogumano-putaro: yucaさんの難易度もmodしたほうがよろしいのでしょうか?
15:07 Heatherfield: un
15:07 kogumano-putaro: 了解です
15:09 kogumano-putaro: hardの難易度を作ったことがないので難しい...+_+
15:11 Heatherfield: ~-~
15:12 kogumano-putaro: 00:47:627
15:13 kogumano-putaro: ここから始まるnormal whistleの音に違和感があります
15:13 kogumano-putaro: ほんの少しでいいのでhitsoundの音量を下げたほうがいいと思います
15:14 Heatherfield: hmm
15:14 Heatherfield: i'll tell her about it
15:16 kogumano-putaro: 02:11:627 ^
15:17 kogumano-putaro: 以上です
15:18 Heatherfield: ooo
15:18 kogumano-putaro: ~Dream End~
15:19 kogumano-putaro: 00:37:342 (1) -
15:19 kogumano-putaro: このスライダーの形が気になります
15:20 Heatherfield: wwww
15:20 kogumano-putaro: 赤点をもう少し右側にずらすと綺麗に見えるかな?
15:20 Heatherfield: un
15:21 kogumano-putaro: http://puu.sh/1ejX7
15:21 kogumano-putaro: こんな感じに!
15:21 Heatherfield: ok fixed
15:21 kogumano-putaro: 00:44:842
15:21 kogumano-putaro: 三倍アイスクリーム!?!?!?
15:22 Heatherfield: ww
15:22 Heatherfield: un
15:22 Heatherfield: sb sound effect
15:22 kogumano-putaro: nice idea, good sound lol
15:23 Heatherfield: arigato ww
15:23 kogumano-putaro: 01:01:770 (2,3,4,5,6,7) -
15:24 kogumano-putaro: ここの五角形・・・個人的に苦手な配置なのでもう少しだけスペーシングを狭くしてほしいです><
15:24 Heatherfield: hmmm
15:25 Heatherfield: i'll make it smaller
15:25 kogumano-putaro: oh...
15:25 kogumano-putaro: i 'm noob player i 'm hetakuso
15:26 Heatherfield: hmm but you are right, spacing after break should be smaller
15:27 Heatherfield: fixed!
15:28 kogumano-putaro: thx~>_<
15:29 kogumano-putaro: 01:29:842 (3) - 01:31:556 (2) -
15:29 kogumano-putaro: 01:31:556 (2) -
15:30 kogumano-putaro: ここの二つ、clapとwhistleを両方使うと音が大きすぎると思います
15:30 Heatherfield: hmm
15:31 Heatherfield: i think i'll find a lower sound clap
15:32 kogumano-putaro: o.o
15:34 kogumano-putaro: i think remove clap o.o;
15:34 Heatherfield: o.o;
15:35 Heatherfield: i'll think about it
15:35 kogumano-putaro: 大きいと思っただけですので
15:36 kogumano-putaro: 判断はそちらにお任せします><
15:37 kogumano-putaro: 01:52:770 (1,2,3,4) -
15:37 kogumano-putaro: ここの4つ、
15:38 kogumano-putaro: 今までの譜面のパターンだとこの配置は違和感があると思うので少しずらしたほうがいいと思います
15:39 Heatherfield: hmm
15:39 kogumano-putaro: http://puu.sh/1ek7N
15:40 kogumano-putaro: こんな感じに少しずらすだけでいいと思いますのでo.o
15:40 Heatherfield: ok
15:41 kogumano-putaro: 02:09:913 (1,1,1,1,1) -
15:41 kogumano-putaro: awesome slider
15:41 Heatherfield: > <
15:42 kogumano-putaro: do you respect tieff?
15:42 Heatherfield: un
15:42 kogumano-putaro: wow
15:42 Heatherfield: tieff san pro da
15:43 kogumano-putaro: tieff is god mapper i respect ><
15:43 Heatherfield: ><
15:45 kogumano-putaro: 03:04:985 (2) -
15:46 kogumano-putaro: ここのスライダーは曲げないほうがいいと思います・・・
15:47 Heatherfield: hmm
15:47 kogumano-putaro: 曲げるなら赤点の方ではなく白点の方で曲げたほうが統一感があると思いました。
15:48 Heatherfield: ok
15:52 kogumano-putaro: 気になったところは以上ですね!
15:52 kogumano-putaro: 素晴らしい譜面でした!がんばってください>< awsome map! fight ranked~ Xd
15:53 Heatherfield: thank you!
jogfi2002
[General]

我这皮肤的紫色和粉色COMBO看着很容易混淆,默认的皮肤下还好些。
然后貌似没看见SB,.osb删掉?



[Normal]

02:18:485 (1,2,3,4) - 把slider排成45度角倾斜如何?垂直的看着有些死板。
02:25:342 (1,2,3,4) - 同上,可以改变一下转向。

其他的没看出什么


[yuca]

总体感觉:前半段的节奏有点难掌握,哨子的声音稍微吵了点。

00:21:485 - 感觉在这加个CIRCLE会舒服点
01:22:235 (2,3,4,5) - 这一段的这种组合都空了一个拍子,但背景音乐里空掉的拍子其实有打击乐……?感觉有点怪,在空掉的白线上加个

CIRCLE试试?像后面的01:42:485 (1,2,3,4)这种就是四个拍(两个有打击两个无打击)的都放了CIRCLE的说……
02:11:413 (3) - 去掉这个CIRCLE,在02:11:306放一个1/4拍的slider,回转一次如何?

然后这个难度最后为啥不放个spinner呢- -?


[Dream End]

这个难度略触!
AIMOD说有大于三种slider speed,不过不能大于三这条是写在GuideLine里的,应该没问题。

第一段音乐结束的时候那个效果音,有点囧……是游戏里的语音?

01:16:770 (5,6) - 这里的音乐主旋律在往上走,只放一个CIRCLE好像有种突然空了的感觉。把5缩短成1/2长,然后删掉6,在原本5结束的地

方再拉一条1/2的slider如何?
01:27:270 (5) - 这里应该是跟了鼓声?建议把这个CIRCLE去掉,在01:27:163加一个3/4的slider
02:27:377 - 加一个CIRCLE,叠上。
03:10:985 (7,8) - 换成slider试试?
03:11:842 (2,3) - 同上
03:12:270 (4,5) - 同上,然后这段的排列可以做成slider对称那种,像这样 => image001

这个难度最后也没spinner?



这种有点自创节奏感觉的咱还是第一次MOD,希望不会MOD得太蠢> <
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