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makeamove
Seriously.. I don't know if I want to cry or laugh.
Kei
The start of the song (00:00:069 ~ 01:00:750) is mappable. Half of the song is unnecessarily skipped imo :l
cRyo[iceeicee]
TARI TARI!!!!
Konei
Congratz~
dkun

Kei wrote:

The start of the song (00:00:069 ~ 01:00:750) is mappable. Half of the song is unnecessarily skipped imo :l
uh, isn't this unrankable if it's not mapped?
Spread Wings_old
Omg everyone is conspiring against Andrea maps :o
Sakura

dkun wrote:

Kei wrote:

The start of the song (00:00:069 ~ 01:00:750) is mappable. Half of the song is unnecessarily skipped imo :l
uh, isn't this unrankable if it's not mapped?
Yes it is, unranking, mapper needs to finish mapping the first half
Shiro

dkun wrote:

Kei wrote:

The start of the song (00:00:069 ~ 01:00:750) is mappable. Half of the song is unnecessarily skipped imo :l
uh, isn't this unrankable if it's not mapped?
The rule states 20% of the mp3 (not cumulative), so 15% intro and 15% outro unmapped is allowed, but 21% intro alone unmapped isn't.
dkun
Kurokami
Oh my. Andrea is so lazy. o.o
Oricc
Nice one BATs
GladiOol
I love it how such a mistake was made by a BAT.
Natteke
People never learn

Spread Wings_old

GladiOol wrote:

I love it how such a mistake was made by a BAT.
Marcin

Natteke wrote:

People never learn

Tanzklaue
wow, we had quite a few slaps from andrea about what he got ranked. but, really, a not even finished, half-assed map?

bt we shouldn't bash andrea to much, though he is really a lazy something, but much rather the MAT (Kenezz) and BAT (Mafiamaster) giving this their seal of approval, in form of a bubble and a rank. something like this is not a "little slip", not overlooking an overlapped repeatarrow or something, no, this was ranking a simply not finished map and I don't know, but I don't think that anybody else would have got this ranked.

this is a punch into the face of everybody who actually cares about his map, everybody who desperately tries to get MATs and BATs to mod his or her map, and to every MAT/BAT who actually tries to do his or her job properly.
thelewa
Everyone deserves a slap
makeamove
Wow. Just wow. Another unranked speedrank o.o well... mapping 2 diffs with half of the mp3 not being mapped and pure copypasta... I don't know what to say honestly.
Also...

Tanzklaue wrote:

this is a punch into the face of everybody who actually cares about his map, everybody who desperately tries to get MATs and BATs to mod his or her map, and to every MAT/BAT who actually tries to do his or her job properly.
Pretty much what it is, indeed.
Seph
yay another quality map ran-

oh.
Froslass

Seph wrote:

yay another quality map ran-

oh.
your avatar is perfect for that post

Also... I completely agree with the previous posts.

Also, a question to andrea:

Why do you have to ignore the people who say this? Why do you just keep doing what you are doing? Don't you think it's unfair?


But please don't troll. Give constructive criticism instead of trolling, thanks. Any trolling posts will be deleted.
dkun

Blue Dragon wrote:

Seph wrote:

yay another quality map ran-

oh.
your avatar is perfect for that post

Also... I completely agree with the previous posts.

Also, a question to andrea:

Why do you have to ignore the people who say this? Why do you just keep doing what you are doing? Don't you think it's unfair?


But please don't troll. Give constructive criticism instead of trolling, thanks. Any trolling posts will be deleted.
Another question to Andrea:

Are you choosing to be oblivious on purpose or are you just that oblivious?
t/92895
popner

Rules wrote:

You must cut your mp3 if you're using less than 80% of it. This doesn't count intro time, and thus only applies if more than 20% of the outro is unmapped. If you only plan to map a portion of your song, then including the full mp3 is a waste of file space. Many mp3 editing tools like this exist which make fading and cutting a song simple. However, if you have a legitimate reason for keeping your full mp3 (e.g. a storyboard after the map ends), then that is fine.

There isn't any unrankable thing.
Tanzklaue

popner wrote:

Rules wrote:

You must cut your mp3 if you're using less than 80% of it. This doesn't count intro time, and thus only applies if more than 20% of the outro is unmapped. If you only plan to map a portion of your song, then including the full mp3 is a waste of file space. Many mp3 editing tools like this exist which make fading and cutting a song simple. However, if you have a legitimate reason for keeping your full mp3 (e.g. a storyboard after the map ends), then that is fine.
50% of the mp3 is not an intro :3
Froslass

popner wrote:

If you only plan to map a portion of your song, then including the full mp3 is a waste of file space.
Also, 50% of the MP3 is a big problem.
dkun

popner wrote:

Rules wrote:

You must cut your mp3 if you're using less than 80% of it. This doesn't count intro time, and thus only applies if more than 20% of the outro is unmapped. If you only plan to map a portion of your song, then including the full mp3 is a waste of file space. Many mp3 editing tools like this exist which make fading and cutting a song simple. However, if you have a legitimate reason for keeping your full mp3 (e.g. a storyboard after the map ends), then that is fine.

Rules wrote:

You must cut your mp3 if you're using less than 80% of it. This doesn't count intro time, and thus only applies if more than 20% of the outro is unmapped. If you only plan to map a portion of your song, then including the full mp3 is a waste of file space. Many mp3 editing tools like this exist which make fading and cutting a song simple. However, if you have a legitimate reason for keeping your full mp3 (e.g. a storyboard after the map ends), then that is fine.
can't tell if stupid
Kei

Tanzklaue wrote:

50% of the mp3 is not an intro :3
And that 50% is completely mappable in this case.
popner
thus only applies if more than 20% of the outro is unmapped.

So what if two rules conflict?
Froslass

popner wrote:

thus only applies if more than 20% of the outro is unmapped.

So what if two rules conflict?
Then a mapper, when in doubt, should check what's right and what's wrong instead of outright ranking his map in 9 days without even checking the rules.
dkun

popner wrote:

thus only applies if more than 20% of the outro is unmapped.

So what if two rules conflict?
rule of thumb

50% of an mp3 not being used is blatantly stupid
have some common sense

did you even look at the ranking date? I don't see the MAT/BAT ranking this asking if it was in question?
Tanzklaue

dkun wrote:

popner wrote:

thus only applies if more than 20% of the outro is unmapped.

So what if two rules conflict?
rule of thumb

50% of an mp3 not being used is blatantly stupid
have some common sense

did you even look at the ranking date? I don't see the MAT/BAT ranking this asking if it was in question?
common sense seems to be an big issue with the staff involved in ranking generally. helping people who don't need the help (or shouldn't need it :P), but leaving otu the people who desperately search for help because they are too busy (modding maps that don't need their help as much) is not that logical either.
jericho2442
Locking until I can talk with the people involved, this is going nowhere and not helping,
I understand people have legitimate reasons and worries, and lots have valid points, but turning it into an argument will not help anyone.
I will talk to the people involved then unlock, once the new parts are mapped please help mod this to a good standard so that we can get this reranked and the scores back for the players who have lost score.
Thank you :)
Topic Starter
Andrea
Finished and moved back to Pending Beatmaps.

I'm sorry for the trouble to everyone.
Sakura
You forgot to unlock the thread, so i did that for you
Lybydose
There's no reason this should have been unranked. Unmapped portion requirements don't apply to the intro, and this file isn't even large to begin with. It's a stretch to even call the intro "mappable" due to the lack of a steady beat to follow.

Instead, you're just coming up with completely arbitrary and irrelevant reasons to unrank something just because you disagree with who the mapper is and/or don't want it ranked in a short period of time, neither of which have anything to do with map quality or "rankability".
ztrot
I see nothing wrong with the map as is and personally this convo is far to negative please Andrea take this time to possibly lay off getting your maps looked into so fast you might find it will do a world of good for you.
Mercurial
Go go Andrea.
makeamove

Lybydose wrote:

There's no reason this should have been unranked. Unmapped portion requirements don't apply to the intro, and this file isn't even large to begin with. It's a stretch to even call the intro "mappable" due to the lack of a steady beat to follow.

Instead, you're just coming up with completely arbitrary and irrelevant reasons to unrank something just because you disagree with who the mapper is and/or don't want it ranked in a short period of time, neither of which have anything to do with map quality or "rankability".
We're complaining about how a mapper gets a half-assed map ranked in 9 days -not just the unrank thing-, being so lazy that he can't even map the whole song, and only maps 2 diffs with pure copypaste and gets 2 XATs in the blink of an eye; while other people have to struggle hard to get their maps ranked for months and months, and they put 10x the effort Andrea made in this map. Also, the intro is completely mappeable, it matches with the bpm perfectly.
Darksonic
This is just..... stupid.

Personally I think the mapper can choose to map or not the first part due this is not a big problem and maybe it's not really good to map like the rest of the song, and if people don't want to listen it, there is a "Skip" button..

BUT YEY RULES
Topic Starter
Andrea
Snepif if you don't know anything, just don't post, thanks.

There isn't any copy-paste at all in the map, also, I put lots of effort when I make my maps, so yeah.

You can already leave the topic.
Mercurial

Darksonic wrote:

and if people don't want to listen it, there is a "Skip" button..
So stop raging against mappers by Speed ranks and stuff.

Just take care of their own maps on getting ranked.

Atte: A mapper that took 11 months to get his map ranked.
makeamove
Well I guess that's it.. to each an opinion. Sorry if I hurted any feelings, just trying to express myself.
It will always be apples vs oranges anyway. Guess it's pointless. I should have learnt that before~~ bye and good luck on the rank.
Stefan

Mercurial wrote:

Atte: A mapper that took 11 months to get his map ranked.
So, this is bad?
CXu
... Well, whatever happened, good luck with the rerank, bakandrea ;w;
Aurele
is this needed in the tags? (#2 ed ver.)
It will be shearched as (#2 & ver.) o3o
Topic Starter
Andrea
Yeah, it's needed ><
Mercurial

Stefan wrote:

Mercurial wrote:

Atte: A mapper that took 11 months to get his map ranked.
So, this is bad?
If the people are compain against Speedranks, an user who took that time to get his map ranked and is not complain.

C'mon, is a game, is not the life or your work, is just a GAME.
Weez
I myself am against the whole speedranking and all but come on, saying Andrea put no effort into the map is just disrespectful to me...

I've played the map and its no where near copypaste. It seems like a typical Andrea map. May be boring to some but it's Andrea's style.
Cyclohexane
let's look at it with an objective eye
2 (or 3 can't remember) recent maps unranked due to fast ranks
2 recent maps with 2-diff spreads, one of them has a collab
latest map unranked because half the song is mapped

Can you understand people saying he puts no effort now?

but hey if you think these complains are dumb and unfounded feel free to disregard, I'm just saying
Sakura
I see no more problems with this mapset, also i think the way the piano was mapped was pretty amazing, enjoy the fruits of your effort.

Reranked!

Edit:For some reason couldn't wipe all scores, oh well since combo is higher they should be easy to beat anyways.
Darksonic
Re Gratz :3
Snowy Dream
Re-congratz > <
Kenezz
Gratz again Andrea, really I think in the unrank of this was needless, but meeh~
Aurele
Congratulation again, Andrea.
Topic Starter
Andrea
Thanks again to everyone <3
Kurokami
Finally, this beatmap is ready to be played by me tomorrow.....err...today. :3
Gratz. o/
KoumeSh
This song gives me goosebumps.

Anyways, congratulations.
ririco

Snowy Dream wrote:

Re-congratz > <
lolcubes
That pattern after the 2nd spinner. I have no words in which I can describe it.
But gz.

:D
Mercurial
Re-Yey
Sure
my record of FL T_T
oh well... gratz again
Nymph
yeah grats Andrea =3=
cRyo[iceeicee]

cRyo[iceeicee] wrote:

TARI TARI!!!!
re TARI TARI!!!!
Cygnus
Congrats Andrea. One thing I should suggest: Never listen to other people's opinion. Your past maps are fine as it is. It's too bad to see your maps have only 2 diffs tbh. I hope you can gather as many diffs as you can on your upcoming maps.
laport
This song makes blood rushing out my ears.

Anyways, congratulations.
Dark_Ai
*sigh* oh my...




congratz anyway!~
Deif

Philippines wrote:

One thing I should suggest: Never listen to other people's opinion.
Worst advice ever. If you don't hear what other people suggest, the whole ranking system (playtest - feedback info to the mapper) wouldn't make any sense. In fact, it's useful to improve ourselves and the quality of our maps.

Regardless my opinion, congratulations Andrea!
those
So if I understand correctly, another forty-five seconds was mapped and it received... how many mods?
h3k1ru
this game became full of haters
kanequito
Awesome!
Tanzklaue

those wrote:

So if I understand correctly, another forty-five seconds was mapped and it received... how many mods?
good point. though it is now too late.
IkkiMinami
:)
Gabriela
Congratz! --

This is a beautiful song! :)
Cygnus

Deif wrote:

Philippines wrote:

One thing I should suggest: Never listen to other people's opinion.
Worst advice ever. If you don't hear what other people suggest, the whole ranking system (playtest - feedback info to the mapper) wouldn't make any sense. In fact, it's useful to improve ourselves and the quality of our maps.

Regardless my opinion, congratulations Andrea!
I might have just said it wrong, sorry. What I mean is, if you know that you're going the right way, why bother listening on others?
Cyclohexane
Worst advice ever still.
Tanzklaue

Philippines wrote:

I might have just said it wrong, sorry. What I mean is, if you know that you're going the right way, why bother listening on others?
because the things you have done probably could be done better, and what other people suggest could be better than what you had originally done.

people like you are the reason why the modding-community dies slowly, only leaving half assed mods for people who don't care for other opinions anyway.
Kei
inb4 locked
h3k1ru

Tanzklaue wrote:

because the things you have done probably could be done better, and what other people suggest could be better than what you had originally done.
or in reverse way?

having an opinion doesnt make it true
Cygnus
I'm so orz. Anyway, congrats again.

I don't wanna cause any trouble, sorry If i'm too stupid with all the words I'm saying.
Mithos
From the ranking criteria, the main point in bold.

The mapset must have a well-designed spread of difficulties, containing at least an Easy or a Normal difficulty (based on how the map feels): this is so that players of all levels of experience are able to enjoy maps of the songs they love. It's really hard to define how a specific spread could work in a specific song beforehand, but here's a list of things to consider: the difficulties in the mapset must be in a consecutive order and/or with a reasonable gap between them; there should be at least one difficulty around ~2.5/3 star difficulty level; if your mapset has two difficulties, one of them cannot be insane (this basically means that it's highly recommended to have 3 difficulties unless the song itself doesn't allow much variety); if your mapset has three difficulties, one of them should be about ~2.5/3 star difficulty level, and the second should not be Insane; if your map has four or more difficulties, at least two should be something other than Insane.
Topic Starter
Andrea
I don't see any Insane here, what's the point of your post? o.o
cRyo[iceeicee]

Andrea wrote:

what's the point of your post? o.o
unrank and add Insane ofc !
Frostmourne
@Mithost

If you were looking at the icon on the beatmap listing then I think you are wrong.

What's your definition of Insane ? , The song itself is calm song. If you still insist to make an Insane diff one , it will become overmapped and not fun at all.

If you are not sure, you should not be here in the first place.
lolcubes
Can we stop witch hunting? The map is perfectly fine.

h3k1ru wrote:

this game became full of haters
HakuNoKaemi
It's a TV Size with the bare minimum number of difficulties.

Yeah, there are many maps like this, but I expect a TV Size map to be at least a 4-diff, or at least with some guests.

And no, this game isn't full of haters for no reason. I really hate 2-diffs short map mapsets as they feel to be not worked.
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