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Is it okay that I lose 10 PP just because of this: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=36077&m=2 ?
considering that none did it with HD (FC) and it's hard as hell with it, it shouldn't take that much of points.
considering that none did it with HD (FC) and it's hard as hell with it, it shouldn't take that much of points.
You can't lose PP for your plays. The system only rewards you for good plays, it does not denote points for any plays. PP decays over time and if you get knocked out of top 500 for a reasonable PP-giving score you had that can lead to losses as well; however it is definitely not a result of a play you played.
Sometimes I lose pp for nothing ...Aqo wrote:
You can't lose PP for your plays. The system only rewards you for good plays, it does not denote points for any plays. PP decays over time and if you get knocked out of top 500 for a reasonable PP-giving score you had that can lead to losses as well; however it is definitely not a result of a play you played.
Either it's a minor recalculation or you lost points from some other map, which apparently happens to me all the time... so meh lol.
you lose pp because people beat you on maps you have played.eldnl wrote:
Sometimes I lose pp for nothing ...Aqo wrote:
You can't lose PP for your plays. The system only rewards you for good plays, it does not denote points for any plays. PP decays over time and if you get knocked out of top 500 for a reasonable PP-giving score you had that can lead to losses as well; however it is definitely not a result of a play you played.
I personally believe this is what peppy means by 'lose pp over time'. I don't think the value of a score decreases unless someone beats it and likewise I don't think it increases after the map has been played more.
You can also lose on PP if you had a rank somewhere that "expired". Since the ranks get taken into account only if they are at most a year old(?), it could just be that your rank became older than that.
Atleast I think so?
Atleast I think so?
jesse1412 wrote:
I personally believe this is what peppy means by 'lose pp over time'. I don't think the value of a score decreases unless someone beats it and likewise I don't think it increases after the map has been played more.
For example, even though Cookiezi's Rank #1 on Big Black won't be beaten, the amount of pp he gets from it will decrease as time passes by.
Pretty sure it does increase with more plays from others. I went ahead and tested PP farming a few weeks ago, played some hards with DT+HD on recent maps that looked popular through playcount (which was jokingly easy to top rank on)... stopped pretty fast because it was boring, but anyway my PP kept going up over the week even though I only played on the weekend, and this is after it hasn't been going up for months.jesse1412 wrote:
I personally believe this is what peppy means by 'lose pp over time'. I don't think the value of a score decreases unless someone beats it and likewise I don't think it increases after the map has been played more.
PP went up over 4 days I didn't play on. So... yes it 100% went up by other people playing and falling under existing ranks. The idea of comparing people's plays to each other is cute in theory but not everybody wants or has the time to play all maps ever so in practice... this is just silly. Until this system starts taking into account only map difficulty and nothing else, it won't be an indication of anything.
So I went back today and improved my ranking on maps that I had FC'd before with mods and ended up getting above 500 on a lot them but no pp.
Does this mean that we don't get them right away or can't get them on maps we've already ranked on?
Does this mean that we don't get them right away or can't get them on maps we've already ranked on?
PP takes some time to update, it's not immediate afaik.
U don't get a lot of pp from easy and normal maps, unless u rank like in the top 40. If older scores of yours got beaten when you scored the new ones today, it's not unlikely that you didn't get many pp.Thelostcup wrote:
So I went back today and improved my ranking on maps that I had FC'd before with mods and ended up getting above 500 on a lot them but no pp.
Does this mean that we don't get them right away or can't get them on maps we've already ranked on?
Seems to explain what just happened like 2 seconds ago. I just gained 3 pp, even though I'm not rank #1 anymore on those recently ranked songs lol. By the time I lost first place, the pp should have already finished updating. Then I lost first place (nothing happened), then like 2 seconds ago I gained 3 pp despite doing absolutely nothing.Aqo wrote:
Pretty sure it does increase with more plays from others. I went ahead and tested PP farming a few weeks ago, played some hards with DT+HD on recent maps that looked popular through playcount (which was jokingly easy to top rank on)... stopped pretty fast because it was boring, but anyway my PP kept going up over the week even though I only played on the weekend, and this is after it hasn't been going up for months.jesse1412 wrote:
I personally believe this is what peppy means by 'lose pp over time'. I don't think the value of a score decreases unless someone beats it and likewise I don't think it increases after the map has been played more.
PP went up over 4 days I didn't play on. So... yes it 100% went up by other people playing and falling under existing ranks. The idea of comparing people's plays to each other is cute in theory but not everybody wants or has the time to play all maps ever so in practice... this is just silly. Until this system starts taking into account only map difficulty and nothing else, it won't be an indication of anything.
From the wiki page:
"Rank on highly contested maps."
Therefore, higher player count yields more pp.
Own experience: Rank 37 on a hard with 110k plays. +6 points, even though normally this wouldn't have given anything
"Rank on highly contested maps."
Therefore, higher player count yields more pp.
Own experience: Rank 37 on a hard with 110k plays. +6 points, even though normally this wouldn't have given anything
Could someone explain me why I get no pp? I just played Avril Lavigne - What The Hell and got a hidden SS. No pp. Yesterday I tried a popular map with Hidden and got #13 (dropped to #18), no pp either.
When it's question time, I've got one too.
Why do I get 4pp for FCing and getting #5 on Hatsune Miku - Sakura Zensen Ijou Nashi [Ijou0108] and then I get 3pp for making #34 with HD but no FC on Inspector K - Disconnected Hardkore (CanBlaster Remix) [Insane] . The difficulty of these two maps isn't comparable in any way. Sure, both maps are hard but Sakura Zensen Ijou Nashi is defenetly harder - specially to FC... need a lot of practice (or just luck/skill, lol). Disconnected Hardkore... is in the end easy to FC if you try and practice a few times. Btw., this two records are from yesterday so noone can say that I didn't wait for the "delay".
I mean there's difference between difficulty, between rank (I mean, 5 and 34?) and HD... doesn't make a map that much harder - but the difference between 3 and 4 pp is... ridiculous small. I don't want to complain about the pp system, it's defenetly better as score for skill... but it still has some problems which doesn't show the skill of someone totally, in my opinion. To make a HR HD rec on a hard and getting a #2 = +9pp but making a DT HD rec on an harder Insane = +2pp? Not totally logical. I'm not totally sure how the system works but I make the hypothesis that this system just put too much on the rank (#1-#40) and cares then a shit about the difficulty (so Easy-Insane). Consider that it's just a hypothesis of mine, it's just how I "feel" this system works... and because of this lack of difficulty considering I agree to this statement:
Why do I get 4pp for FCing and getting #5 on Hatsune Miku - Sakura Zensen Ijou Nashi [Ijou0108] and then I get 3pp for making #34 with HD but no FC on Inspector K - Disconnected Hardkore (CanBlaster Remix) [Insane] . The difficulty of these two maps isn't comparable in any way. Sure, both maps are hard but Sakura Zensen Ijou Nashi is defenetly harder - specially to FC... need a lot of practice (or just luck/skill, lol). Disconnected Hardkore... is in the end easy to FC if you try and practice a few times. Btw., this two records are from yesterday so noone can say that I didn't wait for the "delay".
I mean there's difference between difficulty, between rank (I mean, 5 and 34?) and HD... doesn't make a map that much harder - but the difference between 3 and 4 pp is... ridiculous small. I don't want to complain about the pp system, it's defenetly better as score for skill... but it still has some problems which doesn't show the skill of someone totally, in my opinion. To make a HR HD rec on a hard and getting a #2 = +9pp but making a DT HD rec on an harder Insane = +2pp? Not totally logical. I'm not totally sure how the system works but I make the hypothesis that this system just put too much on the rank (#1-#40) and cares then a shit about the difficulty (so Easy-Insane). Consider that it's just a hypothesis of mine, it's just how I "feel" this system works... and because of this lack of difficulty considering I agree to this statement:
If someone sees this post just as flame, he or she has a problem about critic :/ ... and if someone says anything about the fact that I talked here about CTB.... T_T it's a part of this game as well.Aqo wrote:
Until this system starts taking into accountonlymap difficultyand nothing else, it won't be an indication of anything.
pp award often have delay for me. I often got the pp after 2 hour i finish a song.Nharox wrote:
Could someone explain me why I get no pp? I just played Avril Lavigne - What The Hell and got a hidden SS. No pp. Yesterday I tried a popular map with Hidden and got #13 (dropped to #18), no pp either.
There is, indeed, a delay. Half the time I don't know why I just gained X amount of PP, because it happens in the middle of a song.
One of the scores were yesterday. It doesn't take that long, does it?
this map http://osu.ppy.sh/s/52361 which is the one you talking about only have 6149 plays, so is not as popular as you think.Nharox wrote:
One of the scores were yesterday. It doesn't take that long, does it?
Or there is something wrong with the PP.(i always think there is something wrong with the pp,because my pp increase so slow)
I have recently got pp with fairly good rate thanks to good hidden+nightcore/doubletime ranks, but yesterday&today I didn't gain any points even though I did some good top10 ranks like http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=43603&m=2. It has over 200k playcount and I got rank#3 with SS so I though it would give atleast some points...
Well, even with all these obfuscations this new pp system is much better than the old score ranking.
Well, even with all these obfuscations this new pp system is much better than the old score ranking.
Some of your older plays might've lost some ranks/their worth, or as peppy has said, some sort of calcuations are also made based on "playstyle", and the higher you progress, the better scores you always need. So perhaps that map was too easy based on your "playstyle" /speculation
may be it is not popular in ctb,(the playcount is still 200k when i switch to taiko and standard.)MrSake wrote:
I have recently got pp with fairly good rate thanks to good hidden+nightcore/doubletime ranks, but yesterday&today I didn't gain any points even though I did some good top10 ranks like http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=43603&m=2. It has over 200k playcount and I got rank#3 with SS so I though it would give atleast some points...
Well, even with all these obfuscations this new pp system is much better than the old score ranking.
Yeah, I though something like that too. Because if the system isn't farmable, that means that at some point ranks with certain difficulty must stop giving pp, and maybe I'm just at my limit now.Valentiino wrote:
and the higher you progress, the better scores you always need. So perhaps that map was too easy based on your "playstyle" /speculation
I don't think they ever stop giving, the amount they just give, gets ridicilous low (like lower than 1, so basically to get 1 point, you need multiple of such scores)
So I started playing new maps, and I gained 11000 ranks in PP in one night, while only gaining 300 ranked score ranks. Now I seem to have lost 3000 PP ranks.
PP tends to be very bizarre at lower ranks. Once you maintain some some decent ranks/plays it will probably be more stable (cuz my PP stays pretty much the same no matter what I do lol)
I played new maps, that I never playerd before and my pp is getting up, but improving my old record doesn't give anything, that sucks ...
today I got 182 pp out of two hards played with hidden. the whole rest I played was worth 2 pp, though most of them were easy maps anyway, one was an approved hard, and the otrher a hard played with DT. I got 1600 ranks out of that.
I know, the system doesn't claim to be accurate on lower ranks, but... that's just ridiculous ._.
I know, the system doesn't claim to be accurate on lower ranks, but... that's just ridiculous ._.
The new Best Performance section of your profile, located under "Top Ranks", displays what maps are earning you the most pp. Therefore, this discussion will now be infinitely more productive.
That said, I like how 8 of my top 10 pp givers were mapped by me and the other two are really, really old. I think that's a sign that I need to go off and FC some of the Insanes that I would be able to FC if I sucked up my pride and spent a week or two just playing harder Insanes. Oh, and it does seem that all of my mod-whoring Easy/Normal runs weren't very productive (thank goodness).
That said, I like how 8 of my top 10 pp givers were mapped by me and the other two are really, really old. I think that's a sign that I need to go off and FC some of the Insanes that I would be able to FC if I sucked up my pride and spent a week or two just playing harder Insanes. Oh, and it does seem that all of my mod-whoring Easy/Normal runs weren't very productive (thank goodness).
As an observation~
I've got around 70pp in 2 days without playing~ owo
And days before I got around ~10 pp for ranking #500 or highers.
There are more players that have months with no plays and their pp are increasing :c
I've got around 70pp in 2 days without playing~ owo
And days before I got around ~10 pp for ranking #500 or highers.
There are more players that have months with no plays and their pp are increasing :c
oh wow
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/52407?m=0 is still one of the most pp giving score for me even tho its almost a year old already
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/52407?m=0 is still one of the most pp giving score for me even tho its almost a year old already
This simply sux... <.<
I want the old OSU! ranking system T.T ç___ç
I want the old OSU! ranking system T.T ç___ç
Talking about fluctuations, if you click my profile, check the beginning of my graph.I have yet to see another profile like it.
Old maps are easier to farm rank because few people play them. Some old maps give tons of pp.Ekaru wrote:
That said, I like how 8 of my top 10 pp givers were mapped by me and the other two are really, really old.
[AirCoN] wrote:
Talking about fluctuations, if you click my profile, check the beginning of my graph.I have yet to see another profile like it.
That's because you got very good ranks on completely new maps (which is easy) and then got kicked out of the top 40, top 100 or or even top 500 by better players.
It's funny how my top ranks are almost all hards played so long ago w/o mods :I
easies and normals played with only DT and bad accuracy \o/Valentiino wrote:
It's funny how my top ranks are almost all hards played so long ago w/o mods :I
for me, this system is now a complete and utter failure. it's not important which parameters weight high and which not, if I, as a guy who can fc hardmaps in a range of 100-130 BPM with DT (if they are not to dickish) and is on his way to fc insanes like it is nothing, and still those crappy ranks are worth more than that, then I can't take this remotely serious anymore.
nrii_old
It just updated a few minutes ago, and seems much better nownrii wrote:
the top ranks thing is not correct at all, i have A's on mine that are not even top 200 (yet many top 6's)Valentiino wrote:
It's funny how my top ranks are almost all hards played so long ago w/o mods :I
Altough a bit funny in a way
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/144810 <== My "Best" performance (Yes, this map isn't ranked anymore)Valentiino wrote:
It just updated a few minutes ago, and seems much better now
Altough a bit funny in a way
My pp dropped from 6045 (#43) to 5205 (#612) this afternoon, very interesting.
and lol graph:
and lol graph:
I guess someone went and stole all of your scores :<xsrsbsns wrote:
My pp dropped from 6045 (#43) to 5205 (#612) this afternoon, very interesting.
and lol graph:
I have the same problem. I don't think it's because of this.Mithost wrote:
I guess someone went and stole all of your scores :<xsrsbsns wrote:
My pp dropped from 6045 (#43) to 5205 (#612) this afternoon, very interesting.
and lol graph:
wow that is messed upxsrsbsns wrote:
My pp dropped from 6045 (#43) to 5205 (#612) this afternoon, very interesting.
and lol graph:
Don't worry about it. Just play and wait for the next update and it should go back to normal.
Oh, so I played a random map and it immediately went back up again.
Now if someone would just fix the graph :/
Now if someone would just fix the graph :/
i dont have any awesome performance either 
now you do
guessing best performance are maps that uh.. give the most pp for you
guessing best performance are maps that uh.. give the most pp for you
im very suprised by watercolor, lonely dreaming girl and paradise on earth being in there.
the only maps that actually took me some effort are hiiro no qualia, in the sky and flutterwonder anyway.
i also just gained almost 70pp for doing nothing
the only maps that actually took me some effort are hiiro no qualia, in the sky and flutterwonder anyway.
i also just gained almost 70pp for doing nothing
Stuff that really bothers about the pp amounts, is that there are way too many maps, which has Hard as their hardest diff and they give bunch of pp for DT plays.
Yet, stuff like this might give you astonishing amount of 0pp http://osu.ppy.sh/b/123446 (#24)
Yet, stuff like this might give you astonishing amount of 0pp http://osu.ppy.sh/b/123446 (#24)
There was another recalculation I think. I went from 4994 to 5129 also by doing nothing haha.silmarilen wrote:
i also just gained almost 70pp for doing nothing
heh... so I'm not the only one... (and my pp isn't updating after playing some random map, I guess I'll just wait...)Nashmun wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/144810 <== My "Best" performance (Yes, this map isn't ranked anymore)Valentiino wrote:
It just updated a few minutes ago, and seems much better now
Altough a bit funny in a way
lolcubes wrote:
There was another recalculation I think. I went from 4994 to 5129 also by doing nothing haha.
I noticed I've magically gained about 200 points so a recalculation would make the most sense. I thought maybe unranked maps were somehow being counted since that is all I've been playing lately. LOL
i doubt that because i rarely play unranked maps
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who had some weird up and down PP changes.
Was an assumption on my part and I was joking about that too. Pretty sure i would have gained way more than 450 ranks if unranked maps were being counted. lolsilmarilen wrote:
i doubt that because i rarely play unranked maps
no pp for yoda
Anyone who experiences problems with pp, needs to play a map and wait for the update. It should sort itself out.
I cried when I saw that LOLkriers wrote:
no pp for yoda
It seems something is going on with this again haha. Back to low pp/acc. ;_;
This.lolcubes wrote:
It seems something is going on with this again haha. Back to low pp/acc. ;_;
I'm sad now ;_;
I was so happy to see a large increase yesterday
And now they're gone ;w ;
And now they're gone ;w ;
it still says my rank is #790 even tho it's not lol
I can understand that some maps on my Best Performance took quite an effort, but...
With that said, the pp system still needs an improvement...
Also, if someone wants to beat me in Just Communication map, it's impossible because it has 0 spinners...
EDIT: I just realized that my pp has been boosted up to 5,187pp overnight. lol
- Two - Mix - Just Communication [Easy]... seriously?? An Easy map that contribute a lot of my pp?? If the list is ordered by how much pp it gives you, apparently it gives a lot more than Hard/Insane maps I played... <.<;;
- 3rd Coast - Luv Flow [Normal]... Well, not so easy yet not so hard as well. I'm surprised that it's also on the list.
With that said, the pp system still needs an improvement...
Also, if someone wants to beat me in Just Communication map, it's impossible because it has 0 spinners...
EDIT: I just realized that my pp has been boosted up to 5,187pp overnight. lol
Yeah, me too. +75 yesterday.AkiShizuha wrote:
I was so happy to see a large increase yesterday
And now they're gone ;w ;
But only 16 of them vanished tonight, so... X)
@Winshley: Yeah. For me, there have been a lot of Hard-Diff maps, where I got #6, #7, #11 or sth like that because nobody plays them. xD
Cascada - Truly Madly Deeply (Nightcore Mix) for example.
I went from 4570-4240 randomly, then back up then back down again. System glitched?
WTF IS THIS SHIT
And when I was oh so close to 6k.
oh my god
everyone is on a roller coaster now
everyone is on a roller coaster now
HOLY SHIT
My pp decreased by 444! What a nice number. <3
peppy wrote:
Fixed a bug that I introduced a while back when caching per-map weightings. Get prepared for a bit of a bumpy ride as I also plan on changing some more weighting elements based on user feedback. In other good news, pp can be calculated fast enough that it can be run in realtime now; just need to finish the logistics of that.
Can I please take a moment to urge everyone to ignore changes to their pp, instead focusing on changes to their performance *rank*. pp changes mean nothing if they affect everyone, which they do if you see a sudden drop/increase.
Dropped 957pp in CTB, w.t.f?
thats about 6.3k rank too, up to 8k+ T_T
thats about 6.3k rank too, up to 8k+ T_T
peppy wrote:
...Can I please take a moment to urge everyone to ignore changes to their pp, instead focusing on changes to their performance *rank*. pp changes mean nothing if they affect everyone, which they do if you see a sudden drop/increase.
I was #931 wit 3974 PP ......... WTF?
931 !!!!!! -3000 T_T
I forgot to add that my acc decreased by 0,10% in ctb.
is it really that hard to read? or your need of crying is overwhelming your common sensepeppy wrote:
Yes, I am making constant changes to the calculations. Your pp might drop or rise, but so will everyone else's. For more specifics on what I am working on, you can check this changelog.
I think longer marathon maps give you much more pp than they should. ZUN - ZUN Nonstop Medley gave me probably over a hundred pp after i got a 3k combo on it, and it only took me a couple tries to get. I mean, I like the (almost) free pp and all but it seems sort of unfair considering pp is meant to show skill; and sheer consistency in playing isn't all that hard compared to S-ranking shorter insane maps with Hidden.
Someone brought it to my attention that their PP was a good bit higher than mine, but their rank was a good bit lower. Is this a part that whole "ignore changes to PP and focus on rank" thing, or what? Just curious.
1. Ignore the fact pp existsG0r wrote:
Someone brought it to my attention that their PP was a good bit higher than mine, but their rank was a good bit lower. Is this a part that whole "ignore changes to PP and focus on rank" thing, or what? Just curious.
2. Get as many #1's in the mean time
3. ???
4. Profit
May I know why this new rec didn't give me PP at all?
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=29844&m=2
And please save your "You didn't wait enough" sentence, since It's been like an hour and nothing yet.
Lol it isn't even in my top best performance ranks.
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=29844&m=2
And please save your "You didn't wait enough" sentence, since It's been like an hour and nothing yet.
Lol it isn't even in my top best performance ranks.
Have you not read the thread? Have you not seen http://puu.sh/NtBX right below you pp chart? Have you read peppy's changelog?VelperK wrote:
May I know why this new rec didn't give me PP at all?
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=29844&m=2
And please save your "You didn't wait enough" sentence, since It's been like an hour and nothing yet.
Lol it isn't even in my top best performance ranks.
peppy is doing some (massive? well at least seemingly big) changes to pp. Everything that will be happening (or not happening) to pp is going to be related to that. You guys need to just chill out and stop complaining. Things will sort itself out. Once peppy says he's done with. everything and something is still wrong, then you might have a right to complain.
fartownik wrote:
is it really that hard to read? or your need of crying is overwhelming your common sensepeppy wrote:
Yes, I am making constant changes to the calculations. Your pp might drop or rise, but so will everyone else's. For more specifics on what I am working on, you can check this changelog.
Well I just asked because everything seemed to stabilize now and everybody is increasing their ranks as before, so you don't need to defend peppy so fiercely.
Maybe it's because I just got 1 more rank in the scoreboard only, and the fact that the map isn't quite popular so yeah...
Maybe it's because I just got 1 more rank in the scoreboard only, and the fact that the map isn't quite popular so yeah...
This. I'll just ignore the pp system if it's not really complete yet.winber1 wrote:
1. Ignore the fact pp exists
2. Get as many #1's in the mean time
3. ???
4. Profit
How do I know which maps that I've played are in the top 500? I went to Top Ranked on my profile page and I didn't see a map in my top 500, but when I go on Osu! I see that I have a map that is #202.
Thank you!
Thank you!
You really can't know unless you go into the osu! game. I trust in my senses that I'm not completely blind to some huge new update.
Also, I have no idea how best performance is calculated, and it seems kinda meh (as in not all that accurate imo), so you best not really pay much attention to the new updates until peppy finalizes them. Also a rank #202 isn't going to be in Top Ranks most likely, since it still seems pretty low on the ranking charts, even for your rank, though I guess it depends on the map (cuz an insane rank #202 on a popular map would probably give you a lot), but I'm assuming it isn't something like that.
it also probably would have been a better idea to ask this question in the other PP thread here
Also, I have no idea how best performance is calculated, and it seems kinda meh (as in not all that accurate imo), so you best not really pay much attention to the new updates until peppy finalizes them. Also a rank #202 isn't going to be in Top Ranks most likely, since it still seems pretty low on the ranking charts, even for your rank, though I guess it depends on the map (cuz an insane rank #202 on a popular map would probably give you a lot), but I'm assuming it isn't something like that.
it also probably would have been a better idea to ask this question in the other PP thread here
Well, I had my computer rebooted and all my maps were gone. And under the Top Ranks thing, I saw a map of mine that was 280 or something, and I brought it up to #202. It was like Best Performance or something. Thank you though.
And under the Top Ranks thing, I saw a map of mine that was 280 or something, and I brought it up to #202. It was like Best Performance or something. Thank you though.You could also use this site to check your top 40's, but that's about it (the site does NOT update immediately, it takes quite a while actually to update). I don't really know a way to find all your ranks.
My harddrive died in December last year, so I know how it felt to lose all my maps ~8000 total beatmaps (which is not all that much compared to some other people, but still a decent amount). I have about 11000 now, but I'm still missing a lot of my old maps that I had played. I kinda feel like I'm missing a big part of osu! because of it, but I still make do :/
My harddrive died in December last year, so I know how it felt to lose all my maps
~8000 total beatmaps (which is not all that much compared to some other people, but still a decent amount). I have about 11000 now, but I'm still missing a lot of my old maps that I had played. I kinda feel like I'm missing a big part of osu! because of it, but I still make do :/I probably don't have one in the top 40. I've been lingering in and out of osu.
Wow, that's sad. Losing 8000 maps. lol. And you got 11000 maps back in 8 months. I think you were just DL-ing whenever possible. xD.
Wow, that's sad. Losing 8000 maps. lol. And you got 11000 maps back in 8 months. I think you were just DL-ing whenever possible. xD.
It's not songs, just beatmaps. A mapset can include multiple beatmaps. If I were to randomly guess, it's probably around like 1500 songs or something, or maybe i'm overestimating the number of beatmaps in a mapset.
At first, I just downloaded like 5000 maps immediately (using beatmap packs and such). I've always been playing recently ranked maps, so since that day I've been accumulating maps from recently ranked ones. Nowadays, I'm beginning to stop my "download all recently ranked maps" style of play, mostly cause it's beginning to become a hassle to always be like "I MUST PLAY ALL RECENTLY RANKED MAPS."
At first, I just downloaded like 5000 maps immediately (using beatmap packs and such). I've always been playing recently ranked maps, so since that day I've been accumulating maps from recently ranked ones. Nowadays, I'm beginning to stop my "download all recently ranked maps" style of play, mostly cause it's beginning to become a hassle to always be like "I MUST PLAY ALL RECENTLY RANKED MAPS."
But you have to try them all out once! What if there's a cool one in there that you'll miss by not trying it?winber1 wrote:
"I MUST PLAY ALL RECENTLY RANKED MAPS."
Also @ the new "Best Performance" is totally messed up. B rank on this map with #302 map rank, gained 4 months ago on a whim (played that map in MP just because the song was funny) is considered Best Performance? Seriously what? And yet #167, #415, #264, #337, not worth anything? Or even nomod #594, and yes the system doesn't take into account over 500 but come on, and that's a big flaw in it considering how it works. Just let players pick their own top plays.
It seems that old maps give more pp. Looks like the pp system encourages playing old maps for ppAqo wrote:
Also @ the new "Best Performance" is totally messed up. B rank on this map with #302 map rank, gained 4 months ago on a whim (played that map in MP just because the song was funny) is considered Best Performance? Seriously what? And yet #167, #415, #264, #337, not worth anything? Or even nomod #594, and yes the system doesn't take into account over 500 but come on, and that's a big flaw in it considering how it works. Just let players pick their own top plays.
My 2 years of drilling old maps will be so worth it finallydarkmiz wrote:
It seems that old maps give more pp. Looks like the pp system encourages playing old maps for pp
Before PP: Must play old maps to increase your maximum score.
After PP: Must play old maps to get the best PP fastest and easiest.
Progress!
After PP: Must play old maps to get the best PP fastest and easiest.
Progress!
My Best Performance map listing is full of old maps, apparently.
Aqo wrote:
Before PP: Must play old maps to increase your maximum score.
After PP: Must play old maps to get the best PP fastest and easiest.
Progress!
getting more PP from a B on a [Normal] map from 2009 than from several different approved maps that most people can't even play.G0r wrote:
At least now you have to do a good job on them.
good firetrucking job