Correcting old scores still yields a fair amount of pp (if you correct them to SS that is). Unless you already have a really high pp. So far every map that I correct (S -> SS) gives me 2-6 PP, depending on the map.
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Oh dang, all these recalculations make it look like I actually still play standard
I'm sorry, but did you mean that the scoring couldn't have been recalculated more than once today, or did you mean that my PP couldn't have changed that much, or did you mean that the PP change couldn't have been a result of recalculation?BlazingFX wrote:
NoG0r wrote:
It's funny, because over night I gained about 200 ranks worth of PP, which I guess is probably like 100 PP? I don't know exactly. Maybe the calculations were adjusted twice today; once up, and then again down.
If you are so short with your responses, then you will be hard to understand, you know.
what map give you 2-6pp by correct (S -> SS)?lolcubes wrote:
Correcting old scores still yields a fair amount of pp (if you correct them to SS that is). Unless you already have a really high pp. So far every map that I correct (S -> SS) gives me 2-6 PP, depending on the map.
They should be visible in my recent activity or history. Just keep in mind that my pp is in 4950~ range, could also be a reason.tonyzore wrote:
what map give you 2-6pp by correct (S -> SS)?
I'm sorry, but did you mean that the scoring couldn't have been recalculated more than once today, or did you mean that my PP couldn't have changed that much, or did you mean that the PP change couldn't have been a result of recalculation?It was not recalculated more than once. I did not think there was room for misunderstanding.
If you are so short with your responses, then you will be hard to understand, you know.
Okay 3 days i'm loosing pp and I only cleared top40 insanes (maybe 10-15 a day).
In the other hand I see easy players with more pp than me still gaining pp for their shitty 2 try ranks.
I'm pissed of this system from now i'll just ignore it, trying to play the best i can do is NOT FUN at all. I have no fun with osu! since this system cames out. I'm even thinking in leaving CAT cause this system is just discusting me from playing all maps in the game (and this since it has been released, that's why I wasn't very present for this)
I think there is SO many bad things in system, for example :
- Easy/normal still give pp even if your rank is high AND even if you played another diff harder with a better score.
- Wth is Acc doing here ? Acc is in the score calculation so why the hell Acc have to influence AGAIN the performance ? If this have to be taken in consideration why don't you change the scoring system ? Why the hell the performance have to be evaluated agin by your acc when your score is determined in part by your acc ?
- Why two maps totally randoms from the same style of difficulty dosen't give the same amount of pp for a #1 ? (played likely same amount of time, and even if there's a huge difference why the hell this give from 0 to 30pp ?)
- HD is giving the same bonus as DT in CtB or ? Cause HD (even in std) is THE easy way to get a better score.
- Why the hell I loose pp when I play something really hard for me and gain when I do random shits scores ?
- What the hell is the magic modifier ? a random number wich multiply your gain of pp ?
- Only top #40 should be taken in account when you reach a certain rank, and top10 when you're on top of the list and for god sake ONLY on insane diffs
- Wtf age of record ? Why a score should not be valid when you did it too long ago ?
- I think the map contention is the same for all play mode for standard maps
All of this isn't official ofc but this is the exact feeling I have from this system and I did all my "tests" watching the pp modification the next day so please no : "You just didn't wait enough for the calculation".
I'm now going back to MY old system meaning playing the shit I want to play and f*ck this system. Have a nice day.
inb4 good for you
In the other hand I see easy players with more pp than me still gaining pp for their shitty 2 try ranks.
I'm pissed of this system from now i'll just ignore it, trying to play the best i can do is NOT FUN at all. I have no fun with osu! since this system cames out. I'm even thinking in leaving CAT cause this system is just discusting me from playing all maps in the game (and this since it has been released, that's why I wasn't very present for this)
I think there is SO many bad things in system, for example :
- Easy/normal still give pp even if your rank is high AND even if you played another diff harder with a better score.
- Wth is Acc doing here ? Acc is in the score calculation so why the hell Acc have to influence AGAIN the performance ? If this have to be taken in consideration why don't you change the scoring system ? Why the hell the performance have to be evaluated agin by your acc when your score is determined in part by your acc ?
- Why two maps totally randoms from the same style of difficulty dosen't give the same amount of pp for a #1 ? (played likely same amount of time, and even if there's a huge difference why the hell this give from 0 to 30pp ?)
- HD is giving the same bonus as DT in CtB or ? Cause HD (even in std) is THE easy way to get a better score.
- Why the hell I loose pp when I play something really hard for me and gain when I do random shits scores ?
- What the hell is the magic modifier ? a random number wich multiply your gain of pp ?
- Only top #40 should be taken in account when you reach a certain rank, and top10 when you're on top of the list and for god sake ONLY on insane diffs
- Wtf age of record ? Why a score should not be valid when you did it too long ago ?
- I think the map contention is the same for all play mode for standard maps
All of this isn't official ofc but this is the exact feeling I have from this system and I did all my "tests" watching the pp modification the next day so please no : "You just didn't wait enough for the calculation".
I'm now going back to MY old system meaning playing the shit I want to play and f*ck this system. Have a nice day.
inb4 good for you
good for youDrafura wrote:
Okay 3 days i'm loosing pp and I only cleared top40 insanes (maybe 10-15 a day).
In the other hand I see easy players with more pp than me still gaining pp for their shitty 2 try ranks.
I'm pissed of this system from now i'll just ignore it, trying to play the best i can do is NOT FUN at all. I have no fun with osu! since this system cames out. I'm even thinking in leaving CAT cause this system is just discusting me from playing all maps in the game (and this since it has been released, that's why I wasn't very present for this)
I think there is SO many bad things in system, for example :
- Easy/normal still give pp even if your rank is high AND even if you played another diff harder with a better score.
- Wth is Acc doing here ? Acc is in the score calculation so why the hell Acc have to influence AGAIN the performance ? If this have to be taken in consideration why don't you change the scoring system ? Why the hell the performance have to be evaluated agin by your acc when your score is determined in part by your acc ?
- Why two maps totally randoms from the same style of difficulty dosen't give the same amount of pp for a #1 ? (played likely same amount of time, and even if there's a huge difference why the hell this give from 0 to 30pp ?)
- HD is giving the same bonus as DT in CtB or ? Cause HD (even in std) is THE easy way to get a better score.
- Why the hell I loose pp when I play something really hard for me and gain when I do random shits scores ?
- What the hell is the magic modifier ? a random number wich multiply your gain of pp ?
- Only top #40 should be taken in account when you reach a certain rank, and top10 when you're on top of the list and for god sake ONLY on insane diffs
- Wtf age of record ? Why a score should not be valid when you did it too long ago ?
- I think the map contention is the same for all play mode for standard maps
All of this isn't official ofc but this is the exact feeling I have from this system and I did all my "tests" watching the pp modification the next day so please no : "You just didn't wait enough for the calculation".
I'm now going back to MY old system meaning playing the shit I want to play and f*ck this system. Have a nice day.
inb4 good for you
jk
I agree with this.
good for you.Drafura wrote:
Okay 3 days i'm loosing pp and I only cleared top40 insanes (maybe 10-15 a day).
In the other hand I see easy players with more pp than me still gaining pp for their shitty 2 try ranks.
I'm pissed of this system from now i'll just ignore it, trying to play the best i can do is NOT FUN at all. I have no fun with osu! since this system cames out. I'm even thinking in leaving CAT cause this system is just discusting me from playing all maps in the game (and this since it has been released, that's why I wasn't very present for this)
I think there is SO many bad things in system, for example :
- Easy/normal still give pp even if your rank is high AND even if you played another diff harder with a better score.
- Wth is Acc doing here ? Acc is in the score calculation so why the hell Acc have to influence AGAIN the performance ? If this have to be taken in consideration why don't you change the scoring system ? Why the hell the performance have to be evaluated agin by your acc when your score is determined in part by your acc ?
- Why two maps totally randoms from the same style of difficulty dosen't give the same amount of pp for a #1 ? (played likely same amount of time, and even if there's a huge difference why the hell this give from 0 to 30pp ?)
- HD is giving the same bonus as DT in CtB or ? Cause HD (even in std) is THE easy way to get a better score.
- Why the hell I loose pp when I play something really hard for me and gain when I do random shits scores ?
- What the hell is the magic modifier ? a random number wich multiply your gain of pp ?
- Only top #40 should be taken in account when you reach a certain rank, and top10 when you're on top of the list and for god sake ONLY on insane diffs
- Wtf age of record ? Why a score should not be valid when you did it too long ago ?
- I think the map contention is the same for all play mode for standard maps
All of this isn't official ofc but this is the exact feeling I have from this system and I did all my "tests" watching the pp modification the next day so please no : "You just didn't wait enough for the calculation".
I'm now going back to MY old system meaning playing the shit I want to play and f*ck this system. Have a nice day.
inb4 good for you
All that I agree with here is the ignore easier difficulties after a certain level thing. All we need is a beat map difficulty calculator (HINT HINT TOM HURRY UP YOU HORSE ANUS) and then we can have nice things.
@Drafura
Seriously, I hate people like you. Everything you do is complaining about how bad everything is. Why don't you quit osu! and try to develope your own game if osu! doesn't make fun anymore?
Oh, and if rank really is the only think you care about, you may be wrong at this place anyways.
EDIT: By the way, I don't see your pp decreasing "that" much.
Seriously, I hate people like you. Everything you do is complaining about how bad everything is. Why don't you quit osu! and try to develope your own game if osu! doesn't make fun anymore?
Oh, and if rank really is the only think you care about, you may be wrong at this place anyways.
EDIT: By the way, I don't see your pp decreasing "that" much.
Complaining helps for the improvement of a game.BrokenArrow wrote:
@Drafura
Seriously, I hate people like you. Everything you do is complaining about how bad everything is. Why don't you quit osu! and try to develope your own game if osu! doesn't make fun anymore?
Oh, and if rank really is the only think you care about, you may be wrong at this place anyways.
EDIT: By the way, I don't see your pp decreasing "that" much.
He could've complained in a more friendly way, at least.
Oh manners, manners... :>
Complaining about pp doesn't change a thing. peppy has his vision of how it should be, and it will be like that. No amount of whining w/o proper explaining and a decent way to explain the thing will ever do a thing to change peppys mind to any direction.VelperK wrote:
Complaining helps for the improvement of a game.BrokenArrow wrote:
@Drafura
Seriously, I hate people like you. Everything you do is complaining about how bad everything is. Why don't you quit osu! and try to develope your own game if osu! doesn't make fun anymore?
Oh, and if rank really is the only think you care about, you may be wrong at this place anyways.
EDIT: By the way, I don't see your pp decreasing "that" much.
Well that 'decent way' thingy can be argued (if you mean the drafura's "bad manners"), but he actually GAVE an explanation for his 'whining' if you wish. So yeah, peppy can do whatever he wants with his game but he should also check what its players have to say about it if he wants to make it nicer than what it already is 
In that same thread I posted the problems i saw in that system (or the one wich could be in the system) and I just get ignored. But you're right i'm a very bad troll I was just here to complain. And yes I'm thinking in playing only offline and just go online to FC with a D in CtB all new maps <- this is how much I care about stats/rank and all these crap.BrokenArrow wrote:
@Drafura
Seriously, I hate people like you. Everything you do is complaining about how bad everything is. Why don't you quit osu! and try to develope your own game if osu! doesn't make fun anymore?
Oh, and if rank really is the only think you care about, you may be wrong at this place anyways.
EDIT: By the way, I don't see your pp decreasing "that" much.
Edit to explain what lolcubes deleted... in a nicer way : You're certainly a very nice guy and I wish you all the happy things could happend in the world, but I think you missunderstood me. I was complaining about the system cause in my eyes it doesn't works like it have to work that's why I take the time to list all the things I found wrong (if they are coded in the way I think). OH and I love people like you you're so perfect ! I'm so sad to be me
lol, and you're still wondering why your pp isn't increasing?Drafura wrote:
FC with a D in CtB
And now you're telling me i'm stupid in a nicer way. So let me return you the favour.BrokenArrow wrote:
lol, and you're still wondering why your pp isn't increasing?Drafura wrote:
FC with a D in CtB
Yes I was top40'ing all 3 days with D and was wondering now why my pp was going down ! (I let you guess what I meant here
)Thank you lolcubes this game is so fun !
This game is about clicking circles. Everything else is secondary.
This concept is a lot harder to grasp than you would imagine.CXu wrote:
This game is about clicking circles. Everything else is secondary.
Is it okay that I lose 10 PP just because of this: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=36077&m=2 ?
considering that none did it with HD (FC) and it's hard as hell with it, it shouldn't take that much of points.
considering that none did it with HD (FC) and it's hard as hell with it, it shouldn't take that much of points.
You can't lose PP for your plays. The system only rewards you for good plays, it does not denote points for any plays. PP decays over time and if you get knocked out of top 500 for a reasonable PP-giving score you had that can lead to losses as well; however it is definitely not a result of a play you played.
Sometimes I lose pp for nothing ...Aqo wrote:
You can't lose PP for your plays. The system only rewards you for good plays, it does not denote points for any plays. PP decays over time and if you get knocked out of top 500 for a reasonable PP-giving score you had that can lead to losses as well; however it is definitely not a result of a play you played.
Either it's a minor recalculation or you lost points from some other map, which apparently happens to me all the time... so meh lol.
you lose pp because people beat you on maps you have played.eldnl wrote:
Sometimes I lose pp for nothing ...Aqo wrote:
You can't lose PP for your plays. The system only rewards you for good plays, it does not denote points for any plays. PP decays over time and if you get knocked out of top 500 for a reasonable PP-giving score you had that can lead to losses as well; however it is definitely not a result of a play you played.
I personally believe this is what peppy means by 'lose pp over time'. I don't think the value of a score decreases unless someone beats it and likewise I don't think it increases after the map has been played more.
You can also lose on PP if you had a rank somewhere that "expired". Since the ranks get taken into account only if they are at most a year old(?), it could just be that your rank became older than that.
Atleast I think so?
Atleast I think so?
jesse1412 wrote:
I personally believe this is what peppy means by 'lose pp over time'. I don't think the value of a score decreases unless someone beats it and likewise I don't think it increases after the map has been played more.
For example, even though Cookiezi's Rank #1 on Big Black won't be beaten, the amount of pp he gets from it will decrease as time passes by.
Pretty sure it does increase with more plays from others. I went ahead and tested PP farming a few weeks ago, played some hards with DT+HD on recent maps that looked popular through playcount (which was jokingly easy to top rank on)... stopped pretty fast because it was boring, but anyway my PP kept going up over the week even though I only played on the weekend, and this is after it hasn't been going up for months.jesse1412 wrote:
I personally believe this is what peppy means by 'lose pp over time'. I don't think the value of a score decreases unless someone beats it and likewise I don't think it increases after the map has been played more.
PP went up over 4 days I didn't play on. So... yes it 100% went up by other people playing and falling under existing ranks. The idea of comparing people's plays to each other is cute in theory but not everybody wants or has the time to play all maps ever so in practice... this is just silly. Until this system starts taking into account only map difficulty and nothing else, it won't be an indication of anything.
So I went back today and improved my ranking on maps that I had FC'd before with mods and ended up getting above 500 on a lot them but no pp.
Does this mean that we don't get them right away or can't get them on maps we've already ranked on?
Does this mean that we don't get them right away or can't get them on maps we've already ranked on?
PP takes some time to update, it's not immediate afaik.
U don't get a lot of pp from easy and normal maps, unless u rank like in the top 40. If older scores of yours got beaten when you scored the new ones today, it's not unlikely that you didn't get many pp.Thelostcup wrote:
So I went back today and improved my ranking on maps that I had FC'd before with mods and ended up getting above 500 on a lot them but no pp.
Does this mean that we don't get them right away or can't get them on maps we've already ranked on?
Seems to explain what just happened like 2 seconds ago. I just gained 3 pp, even though I'm not rank #1 anymore on those recently ranked songs lol. By the time I lost first place, the pp should have already finished updating. Then I lost first place (nothing happened), then like 2 seconds ago I gained 3 pp despite doing absolutely nothing.Aqo wrote:
Pretty sure it does increase with more plays from others. I went ahead and tested PP farming a few weeks ago, played some hards with DT+HD on recent maps that looked popular through playcount (which was jokingly easy to top rank on)... stopped pretty fast because it was boring, but anyway my PP kept going up over the week even though I only played on the weekend, and this is after it hasn't been going up for months.jesse1412 wrote:
I personally believe this is what peppy means by 'lose pp over time'. I don't think the value of a score decreases unless someone beats it and likewise I don't think it increases after the map has been played more.
PP went up over 4 days I didn't play on. So... yes it 100% went up by other people playing and falling under existing ranks. The idea of comparing people's plays to each other is cute in theory but not everybody wants or has the time to play all maps ever so in practice... this is just silly. Until this system starts taking into account only map difficulty and nothing else, it won't be an indication of anything.
From the wiki page:
"Rank on highly contested maps."
Therefore, higher player count yields more pp.
Own experience: Rank 37 on a hard with 110k plays. +6 points, even though normally this wouldn't have given anything
"Rank on highly contested maps."
Therefore, higher player count yields more pp.
Own experience: Rank 37 on a hard with 110k plays. +6 points, even though normally this wouldn't have given anything
Could someone explain me why I get no pp? I just played Avril Lavigne - What The Hell and got a hidden SS. No pp. Yesterday I tried a popular map with Hidden and got #13 (dropped to #18), no pp either.
When it's question time, I've got one too.
Why do I get 4pp for FCing and getting #5 on Hatsune Miku - Sakura Zensen Ijou Nashi [Ijou0108] and then I get 3pp for making #34 with HD but no FC on Inspector K - Disconnected Hardkore (CanBlaster Remix) [Insane] . The difficulty of these two maps isn't comparable in any way. Sure, both maps are hard but Sakura Zensen Ijou Nashi is defenetly harder - specially to FC... need a lot of practice (or just luck/skill, lol). Disconnected Hardkore... is in the end easy to FC if you try and practice a few times. Btw., this two records are from yesterday so noone can say that I didn't wait for the "delay".
I mean there's difference between difficulty, between rank (I mean, 5 and 34?) and HD... doesn't make a map that much harder - but the difference between 3 and 4 pp is... ridiculous small. I don't want to complain about the pp system, it's defenetly better as score for skill... but it still has some problems which doesn't show the skill of someone totally, in my opinion. To make a HR HD rec on a hard and getting a #2 = +9pp but making a DT HD rec on an harder Insane = +2pp? Not totally logical. I'm not totally sure how the system works but I make the hypothesis that this system just put too much on the rank (#1-#40) and cares then a shit about the difficulty (so Easy-Insane). Consider that it's just a hypothesis of mine, it's just how I "feel" this system works... and because of this lack of difficulty considering I agree to this statement:
Why do I get 4pp for FCing and getting #5 on Hatsune Miku - Sakura Zensen Ijou Nashi [Ijou0108] and then I get 3pp for making #34 with HD but no FC on Inspector K - Disconnected Hardkore (CanBlaster Remix) [Insane] . The difficulty of these two maps isn't comparable in any way. Sure, both maps are hard but Sakura Zensen Ijou Nashi is defenetly harder - specially to FC... need a lot of practice (or just luck/skill, lol). Disconnected Hardkore... is in the end easy to FC if you try and practice a few times. Btw., this two records are from yesterday so noone can say that I didn't wait for the "delay".
I mean there's difference between difficulty, between rank (I mean, 5 and 34?) and HD... doesn't make a map that much harder - but the difference between 3 and 4 pp is... ridiculous small. I don't want to complain about the pp system, it's defenetly better as score for skill... but it still has some problems which doesn't show the skill of someone totally, in my opinion. To make a HR HD rec on a hard and getting a #2 = +9pp but making a DT HD rec on an harder Insane = +2pp? Not totally logical. I'm not totally sure how the system works but I make the hypothesis that this system just put too much on the rank (#1-#40) and cares then a shit about the difficulty (so Easy-Insane). Consider that it's just a hypothesis of mine, it's just how I "feel" this system works... and because of this lack of difficulty considering I agree to this statement:
If someone sees this post just as flame, he or she has a problem about critic :/ ... and if someone says anything about the fact that I talked here about CTB.... T_T it's a part of this game as well.Aqo wrote:
Until this system starts taking into accountonlymap difficultyand nothing else, it won't be an indication of anything.
pp award often have delay for me. I often got the pp after 2 hour i finish a song.Nharox wrote:
Could someone explain me why I get no pp? I just played Avril Lavigne - What The Hell and got a hidden SS. No pp. Yesterday I tried a popular map with Hidden and got #13 (dropped to #18), no pp either.
There is, indeed, a delay. Half the time I don't know why I just gained X amount of PP, because it happens in the middle of a song.
One of the scores were yesterday. It doesn't take that long, does it?
this map http://osu.ppy.sh/s/52361 which is the one you talking about only have 6149 plays, so is not as popular as you think.Nharox wrote:
One of the scores were yesterday. It doesn't take that long, does it?
Or there is something wrong with the PP.(i always think there is something wrong with the pp,because my pp increase so slow)
I have recently got pp with fairly good rate thanks to good hidden+nightcore/doubletime ranks, but yesterday&today I didn't gain any points even though I did some good top10 ranks like http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=43603&m=2. It has over 200k playcount and I got rank#3 with SS so I though it would give atleast some points...
Well, even with all these obfuscations this new pp system is much better than the old score ranking.
Well, even with all these obfuscations this new pp system is much better than the old score ranking.
Some of your older plays might've lost some ranks/their worth, or as peppy has said, some sort of calcuations are also made based on "playstyle", and the higher you progress, the better scores you always need. So perhaps that map was too easy based on your "playstyle" /speculation
may be it is not popular in ctb,(the playcount is still 200k when i switch to taiko and standard.)MrSake wrote:
I have recently got pp with fairly good rate thanks to good hidden+nightcore/doubletime ranks, but yesterday&today I didn't gain any points even though I did some good top10 ranks like http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=43603&m=2. It has over 200k playcount and I got rank#3 with SS so I though it would give atleast some points...
Well, even with all these obfuscations this new pp system is much better than the old score ranking.
Yeah, I though something like that too. Because if the system isn't farmable, that means that at some point ranks with certain difficulty must stop giving pp, and maybe I'm just at my limit now.Valentiino wrote:
and the higher you progress, the better scores you always need. So perhaps that map was too easy based on your "playstyle" /speculation
I don't think they ever stop giving, the amount they just give, gets ridicilous low (like lower than 1, so basically to get 1 point, you need multiple of such scores)
So I started playing new maps, and I gained 11000 ranks in PP in one night, while only gaining 300 ranked score ranks. Now I seem to have lost 3000 PP ranks.
PP tends to be very bizarre at lower ranks. Once you maintain some some decent ranks/plays it will probably be more stable (cuz my PP stays pretty much the same no matter what I do lol)
I played new maps, that I never playerd before and my pp is getting up, but improving my old record doesn't give anything, that sucks ...
today I got 182 pp out of two hards played with hidden. the whole rest I played was worth 2 pp, though most of them were easy maps anyway, one was an approved hard, and the otrher a hard played with DT. I got 1600 ranks out of that.
I know, the system doesn't claim to be accurate on lower ranks, but... that's just ridiculous ._.
I know, the system doesn't claim to be accurate on lower ranks, but... that's just ridiculous ._.
The new Best Performance section of your profile, located under "Top Ranks", displays what maps are earning you the most pp. Therefore, this discussion will now be infinitely more productive.
That said, I like how 8 of my top 10 pp givers were mapped by me and the other two are really, really old. I think that's a sign that I need to go off and FC some of the Insanes that I would be able to FC if I sucked up my pride and spent a week or two just playing harder Insanes. Oh, and it does seem that all of my mod-whoring Easy/Normal runs weren't very productive (thank goodness).
That said, I like how 8 of my top 10 pp givers were mapped by me and the other two are really, really old. I think that's a sign that I need to go off and FC some of the Insanes that I would be able to FC if I sucked up my pride and spent a week or two just playing harder Insanes. Oh, and it does seem that all of my mod-whoring Easy/Normal runs weren't very productive (thank goodness).
As an observation~
I've got around 70pp in 2 days without playing~ owo
And days before I got around ~10 pp for ranking #500 or highers.
There are more players that have months with no plays and their pp are increasing :c
I've got around 70pp in 2 days without playing~ owo
And days before I got around ~10 pp for ranking #500 or highers.
There are more players that have months with no plays and their pp are increasing :c
oh wow
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/52407?m=0 is still one of the most pp giving score for me even tho its almost a year old already
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/52407?m=0 is still one of the most pp giving score for me even tho its almost a year old already
This simply sux... <.<
I want the old OSU! ranking system T.T ç___ç
I want the old OSU! ranking system T.T ç___ç
Talking about fluctuations, if you click my profile, check the beginning of my graph.I have yet to see another profile like it.
Old maps are easier to farm rank because few people play them. Some old maps give tons of pp.Ekaru wrote:
That said, I like how 8 of my top 10 pp givers were mapped by me and the other two are really, really old.
[AirCoN] wrote:
Talking about fluctuations, if you click my profile, check the beginning of my graph.I have yet to see another profile like it.
That's because you got very good ranks on completely new maps (which is easy) and then got kicked out of the top 40, top 100 or or even top 500 by better players.
It's funny how my top ranks are almost all hards played so long ago w/o mods :I
easies and normals played with only DT and bad accuracy \o/Valentiino wrote:
It's funny how my top ranks are almost all hards played so long ago w/o mods :I
for me, this system is now a complete and utter failure. it's not important which parameters weight high and which not, if I, as a guy who can fc hardmaps in a range of 100-130 BPM with DT (if they are not to dickish) and is on his way to fc insanes like it is nothing, and still those crappy ranks are worth more than that, then I can't take this remotely serious anymore.
nrii_old
It just updated a few minutes ago, and seems much better nownrii wrote:
the top ranks thing is not correct at all, i have A's on mine that are not even top 200 (yet many top 6's)Valentiino wrote:
It's funny how my top ranks are almost all hards played so long ago w/o mods :I
Altough a bit funny in a way
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/144810 <== My "Best" performance (Yes, this map isn't ranked anymore)Valentiino wrote:
It just updated a few minutes ago, and seems much better now
Altough a bit funny in a way
My pp dropped from 6045 (#43) to 5205 (#612) this afternoon, very interesting.
and lol graph:
and lol graph:
I guess someone went and stole all of your scores :<xsrsbsns wrote:
My pp dropped from 6045 (#43) to 5205 (#612) this afternoon, very interesting.
and lol graph:
I have the same problem. I don't think it's because of this.Mithost wrote:
I guess someone went and stole all of your scores :<xsrsbsns wrote:
My pp dropped from 6045 (#43) to 5205 (#612) this afternoon, very interesting.
and lol graph:
wow that is messed upxsrsbsns wrote:
My pp dropped from 6045 (#43) to 5205 (#612) this afternoon, very interesting.
and lol graph:
Don't worry about it. Just play and wait for the next update and it should go back to normal.
Oh, so I played a random map and it immediately went back up again.
Now if someone would just fix the graph :/
Now if someone would just fix the graph :/
i dont have any awesome performance either
now you do
guessing best performance are maps that uh.. give the most pp for you
guessing best performance are maps that uh.. give the most pp for you
im very suprised by watercolor, lonely dreaming girl and paradise on earth being in there.
the only maps that actually took me some effort are hiiro no qualia, in the sky and flutterwonder anyway.
i also just gained almost 70pp for doing nothing
the only maps that actually took me some effort are hiiro no qualia, in the sky and flutterwonder anyway.
i also just gained almost 70pp for doing nothing
Stuff that really bothers about the pp amounts, is that there are way too many maps, which has Hard as their hardest diff and they give bunch of pp for DT plays.
Yet, stuff like this might give you astonishing amount of 0pp http://osu.ppy.sh/b/123446 (#24)
Yet, stuff like this might give you astonishing amount of 0pp http://osu.ppy.sh/b/123446 (#24)
There was another recalculation I think. I went from 4994 to 5129 also by doing nothing haha.silmarilen wrote:
i also just gained almost 70pp for doing nothing
heh... so I'm not the only one... (and my pp isn't updating after playing some random map, I guess I'll just wait...)Nashmun wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/144810 <== My "Best" performance (Yes, this map isn't ranked anymore)Valentiino wrote:
It just updated a few minutes ago, and seems much better now
Altough a bit funny in a way
lolcubes wrote:
There was another recalculation I think. I went from 4994 to 5129 also by doing nothing haha.
I noticed I've magically gained about 200 points so a recalculation would make the most sense. I thought maybe unranked maps were somehow being counted since that is all I've been playing lately. LOL
i doubt that because i rarely play unranked maps
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who had some weird up and down PP changes.
Was an assumption on my part and I was joking about that too. Pretty sure i would have gained way more than 450 ranks if unranked maps were being counted. lolsilmarilen wrote:
i doubt that because i rarely play unranked maps
no pp for yoda
Anyone who experiences problems with pp, needs to play a map and wait for the update. It should sort itself out.
I cried when I saw that LOLkriers wrote:
no pp for yoda
It seems something is going on with this again haha. Back to low pp/acc. ;_;
This.lolcubes wrote:
It seems something is going on with this again haha. Back to low pp/acc. ;_;
I'm sad now ;_;
I was so happy to see a large increase yesterday
And now they're gone ;w ;
And now they're gone ;w ;
it still says my rank is #790 even tho it's not lol
I can understand that some maps on my Best Performance took quite an effort, but...
With that said, the pp system still needs an improvement...
Also, if someone wants to beat me in Just Communication map, it's impossible because it has 0 spinners...
EDIT: I just realized that my pp has been boosted up to 5,187pp overnight. lol
- Two - Mix - Just Communication [Easy]... seriously?? An Easy map that contribute a lot of my pp?? If the list is ordered by how much pp it gives you, apparently it gives a lot more than Hard/Insane maps I played... <.<;;
- 3rd Coast - Luv Flow [Normal]... Well, not so easy yet not so hard as well. I'm surprised that it's also on the list.
With that said, the pp system still needs an improvement...
Also, if someone wants to beat me in Just Communication map, it's impossible because it has 0 spinners...
EDIT: I just realized that my pp has been boosted up to 5,187pp overnight. lol
Yeah, me too. +75 yesterday.AkiShizuha wrote:
I was so happy to see a large increase yesterday
And now they're gone ;w ;
But only 16 of them vanished tonight, so... X)
@Winshley: Yeah. For me, there have been a lot of Hard-Diff maps, where I got #6, #7, #11 or sth like that because nobody plays them. xD
Cascada - Truly Madly Deeply (Nightcore Mix) for example.
I went from 4570-4240 randomly, then back up then back down again. System glitched?
WTF IS THIS SHIT
And when I was oh so close to 6k.
oh my god
everyone is on a roller coaster now
everyone is on a roller coaster now
HOLY SHIT
My pp decreased by 444! What a nice number. <3
peppy wrote:
Fixed a bug that I introduced a while back when caching per-map weightings. Get prepared for a bit of a bumpy ride as I also plan on changing some more weighting elements based on user feedback. In other good news, pp can be calculated fast enough that it can be run in realtime now; just need to finish the logistics of that.
Can I please take a moment to urge everyone to ignore changes to their pp, instead focusing on changes to their performance *rank*. pp changes mean nothing if they affect everyone, which they do if you see a sudden drop/increase.
Dropped 957pp in CTB, w.t.f?
thats about 6.3k rank too, up to 8k+ T_T
thats about 6.3k rank too, up to 8k+ T_T
peppy wrote:
...Can I please take a moment to urge everyone to ignore changes to their pp, instead focusing on changes to their performance *rank*. pp changes mean nothing if they affect everyone, which they do if you see a sudden drop/increase.
I was #931 wit 3974 PP ......... WTF?
931 !!!!!! -3000 T_T
I forgot to add that my acc decreased by 0,10% in ctb.
is it really that hard to read? or your need of crying is overwhelming your common sensepeppy wrote:
Yes, I am making constant changes to the calculations. Your pp might drop or rise, but so will everyone else's. For more specifics on what I am working on, you can check this changelog.
I think longer marathon maps give you much more pp than they should. ZUN - ZUN Nonstop Medley gave me probably over a hundred pp after i got a 3k combo on it, and it only took me a couple tries to get. I mean, I like the (almost) free pp and all but it seems sort of unfair considering pp is meant to show skill; and sheer consistency in playing isn't all that hard compared to S-ranking shorter insane maps with Hidden.
Someone brought it to my attention that their PP was a good bit higher than mine, but their rank was a good bit lower. Is this a part that whole "ignore changes to PP and focus on rank" thing, or what? Just curious.
1. Ignore the fact pp existsG0r wrote:
Someone brought it to my attention that their PP was a good bit higher than mine, but their rank was a good bit lower. Is this a part that whole "ignore changes to PP and focus on rank" thing, or what? Just curious.
2. Get as many #1's in the mean time
3. ???
4. Profit