OMG YES!!!! I want this =D
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Sorry if I sound pushy and selfish, but this is the coolest idea ever. A scoreboard for friends is, like, literally the one thing I've always wanted to see in osu!, and I'll be rather sad if it's never implemented.
So this feature request is pretty shit.
Imagine million of users trying to fetch the leaderboard from the server...
This idea is interesting, which I support. But we need an efficient method so that it doesn't take too much server load.
I support this endeavour and will give a vote once I can!
I just had this same thought just now and was looking around to see if anyone had posted it. definitely support this, unfortunately i have no votes
Sounds interesting. Support
Topic Starter
Cool to see plenty of others sharing the same interest!
I've always wanted to do this, but technically speaking this is a very hard (intensive) thing to handle.
no more one-way relationships with cookiezi!
the current friend system seems to be a tacked on / half-baked feature. The only thing that friends do is show up when online and a filter for MP games. There is no way to see the people that have friended me or who my friends are and if they are mutual in one place. I would start with a profile page that lists this stuff. I can see where this would be rather database intenstive, but i would rather look at where my friends stand then the overall rankings which im never going to get close to. I would limit it to mutual friends and perhaps only 1 "rival". Another idea would be to cache the data on some period so that the intense query isn't run as often. I Realize that this can be tough, but I think it would be so worth it.
Mercurial
It's a good idea. I wondered several times how much score did some of my friends got on certain maps.
This should be implemented.
This should be implemented.
o/iMercurial wrote:
C'mon peppy, you can do it.
Horai_old
+1 and bumping for support. Was about to suggest this myself until I found it was already here. I started playing Osu recently and was actually kinda surprised this feature wasn't already implemented. This would undoubtedly make a huge difference to the competitive scene among Osu, as well as encouraging widening friend circles within the community. Only seeing my own scores is kinda boring, and I'm nowhere near the skill level of top 40, so there's no point in me ever even having that tab open.
As tedious a task as it may be to implement a feature like this, it would be a huge step up for Osu.
As tedious a task as it may be to implement a feature like this, it would be a huge step up for Osu.
first post, playing this fantastic game for some nights now (my brother now do also) and i really miss the friends score in a tab to make osu! a great competitive way for people like me who don't have an interest in the top 40 and only want to see what scores/ranks the friends are making on a map. i also think that would be a big social-gaming boost for osu!.
This would add another layer of competition that would be great. It would give you another reason to play a song, another goal to reach. Not to mention it would be nice to have that information right there in game.
It would be nice. If i had Stars Support
as i recall audiosurf handles the friend competition very well. you can filter the online scores so that only your friends scores will show up and it also drops you an email if a friend has beaten you on a map (mp3).
Support. This would be a good idea. We can make more friends thus, you won't have problems finding your friends score/s and to invite them into a rival fight. 
I'm support to this
That's a great idea!
I gave you a star because I really love the idea It would be so great to have a friends rank on each map you play, to add more challenge and fun to solo mode.
It would be so great to have a friends rank on each map you play, to add more challenge and fun to solo mode.support! nice idea
Sounds like a good idea, but maybe make it that it will only work if both are mutual friends?
By this, do you mean it's hard to code, or it's difficult for the server to handle requests on that scale? If it's the former, then I guess it can't be helped, but if it's the latter, you could limit it so it doesn't load the server so badly, like have it update only once in a while (hourly?), or only be between mutual friends like ShadowLord suggested. Alternately, maybe you could tone down other features, like make only top 6 scores automatically upload a replay (I don't think a lot of people watch replays that aren't on the first page).peppy wrote:
I've always wanted to do this, but technically speaking this is a very hard (intensive) thing to handle.
Sorry if I sound pushy and selfish, but this is the coolest idea ever. A scoreboard for friends is, like, literally the one thing I've always wanted to see in osu!, and I'll be rather sad if it's never implemented.
I've already experienced many of my friends activity on many top 40s and for me, that's enough. I really wouldn't care about anyone under rank 40. That just means they suck and that isn't fun to see. 
This is one of those features I have no idea why aren't in yet. Almost every game with leaderboards lets you compete against your friends' scores, it lets newbies have fun too. Full support
Supporting, I'd need this to keep up with my friends, on-the-fly.
Support, this is an interesting feature.
This is a great idea. I would've given one vote for, but sdafafdgfagsd no stars :c
Supporting this.
Supporting this.
Support, a really cool idea \:D/
I don't see how this would be intensive to implement, plenty of other games do this. One way would be to store all scores on a server, only keeping the highest score a user makes and the client simply grabs the data from the website database in real-time (similar to embedding a frame of a webpage). Another way would be for the clients to individually ask other clients for their highest local scores to sync with and promptly attempt to sync with friends clients when a new high score is obtained.
It would also be nice if every beatmap had their own dedicated torrent link, possibly even have torrent functionality implemented inside Osu! I'd be willing to donate tons of bandwidth if this existed.
It would also be nice if every beatmap had their own dedicated torrent link, possibly even have torrent functionality implemented inside Osu! I'd be willing to donate tons of bandwidth if this existed.
In your dreams. osu! doesn't want to be associated with that kind of stuff.mmstick wrote:
It would also be nice if every beatmap had their own dedicated torrent link, possibly even have torrent functionality implemented inside Osu! I'd be willing to donate tons of bandwidth if this existed.
Why not? Are you implying there is some major flaw in the torrent protocol? If anything, it would drastically take the load off of the Osu servers, reducing bandwidth cost and needs. Give me a single good reason for why it would be a bad thing to be 'associated' with an Internet protocol like torrent.theowest wrote:
In your dreams. osu! doesn't want to be associated with that kind of stuff.mmstick wrote:
It would also be nice if every beatmap had their own dedicated torrent link, possibly even have torrent functionality implemented inside Osu! I'd be willing to donate tons of bandwidth if this existed.
Now that I think about it. It would be kind of swell.
A torrent based system inside osu!, automatically running, all files and everything are shared as you upload them automatically (but act in a specific way depending on how things would work best). Damn. osu! would be so cost efficient if this was the case. That's how all sharing should work! I never thought torrents were this revolutionary before.
Yeah, back to topic. Very interesting though. I'd love to have a discussion about it, but not here of course.
A torrent based system inside osu!, automatically running, all files and everything are shared as you upload them automatically (but act in a specific way depending on how things would work best). Damn. osu! would be so cost efficient if this was the case. That's how all sharing should work! I never thought torrents were this revolutionary before.
Yeah, back to topic. Very interesting though. I'd love to have a discussion about it, but not here of course.
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Support this feature, it is just like a social network.
Support this feature, it is just like a social network.
I would really like this feature to be supported, it would really give the game a bit more of a competition between friends
Last I heard, p2p functionality was already being programmed into the game, It's just not in effect yet. It would be cool to see a friends rating board, but it would be harder to manage server-wise than top 40.
If you want to do this, just grab your friends' replays. Their scores move over to the local scoreboard.
If you want to do this, just grab your friends' replays. Their scores move over to the local scoreboard.
There should be a check box right on top of the online ranking; "Show friend plays only". Somewhere between here:
Should also be available on the web, right next to the "shoe no-mod plays only:
Should also be available on the web, right next to the "shoe no-mod plays only:
"Display friends on song select rankings when present."
Did I read that right
Because if I did, I'm going to squeal like a girl
Did I read that right
Because if I did, I'm going to squeal like a girl
The problem is your "friends" may not want to show his/her score and this could end up with people watching random players' score by making friends with him/her. If the relationship is mutual and he/she is willing to disclose his/her score, you can simply ask him/her for the score/replay.
Exactly. If you really want to see who your friends are, just remember who they are. They're already highlighted on the list and any friend beyond rank 40 won't show anyway.wmfchris wrote:
The problem is your "friends" may not want to show his/her score and this could end up with people watching random players' score by making friends with him/her. If the relationship is mutual and he/she is willing to disclose his/her score, you can simply ask him/her for the score/replay.
So this feature request is pretty shit.
No because you normally only see 1st, 37th, 38th, 39th, 40th, Your best, Current.
If a friend isnt in any of those you wont see it until you get higher than 40th so it shifts a bit and so on, i'd prefer that it only shows your friends position (on top 40) if this is implemented, which is what i think peppy was proposing, also adding a toggle of course, for those that want to see the old behavior.
If a friend isnt in any of those you wont see it until you get higher than 40th so it shifts a bit and so on, i'd prefer that it only shows your friends position (on top 40) if this is implemented, which is what i think peppy was proposing, also adding a toggle of course, for those that want to see the old behavior.
Yeah, but filtering top 40 to only display friends is what im talking about (didn't peppy say something similar in here? i cant seem to find the post).
Edit: @theowest: I meant mid-play.
Edit: @theowest: I meant mid-play.
oh. well that will most certainly make the list smaller and easier for you to scroll through
I support this idea. When you're newer to the game you don't particularly get that competitive feel, but starting up with friends and seeing a friend ranking fixes that. It's even better if it's multiple friends. Imagine a small community like a forum with on Osu thread in off topic, they friend each other and just wanna keep tabs on each other's scored without manually posting their scored in the thread.
I'm sure there are a lot of people who aren't interested in the top 40, but would be interested in having a scoreboard of their 20 mutual friends to compete with. Having to manually manage scores makes it too much of a hassle to be fun.
As for stalking people's scores, you could just have it work for just mutual friends. It also doesn't help that you don't get a notification when people request you as a friend for you to accept, they can just add you without your knowledge. Friend system in general seems in need of tweaking, but perhaps that's for a different time.
I'm sure there are a lot of people who aren't interested in the top 40, but would be interested in having a scoreboard of their 20 mutual friends to compete with. Having to manually manage scores makes it too much of a hassle to be fun.
As for stalking people's scores, you could just have it work for just mutual friends. It also doesn't help that you don't get a notification when people request you as a friend for you to accept, they can just add you without your knowledge. Friend system in general seems in need of tweaking, but perhaps that's for a different time.
I am hoping to address this in a round-about way in the future. For now, due to my previously mentioned reasons, it is not possible.
Your solutions may sound simple to you, but aren't actually feasible due to over-simplication (suggestion 1) or incorrect approach (suggestion 2).
You need an index per-user per-beatmap ordered by score. As this information is obviously not stored in a single table, it means duplicating a lot of data, which all needs to be updated on a regular basis. Making this an efficient lookup is one of the most challenging query types for a database. It of course can be done, but requires a lot of optimisation, consideration and storage space.mmstick wrote:
I don't see how this would be intensive to implement, plenty of other games do this. One way would be to store all scores on a server, only keeping the highest score a user makes and the client simply grabs the data from the website database in real-time (similar to embedding a frame of a webpage). Another way would be for the clients to individually ask other clients for their highest local scores to sync with and promptly attempt to sync with friends clients when a new high score is obtained.
Your solutions may sound simple to you, but aren't actually feasible due to over-simplication (suggestion 1) or incorrect approach (suggestion 2).
definitely a great idea....
tired of going through asking friends their ranks/scores
kinda annoying
tired of going through asking friends their ranks/scores
kinda annoying
This sounds fun... it would add something new to regular gameplay for me. Make things a bit more spicy 
I had the same idea. I do support this idea, but this will be kind of hard to make.
This is kind of confusing to me. Whatever confusing must be hard, right?peppy wrote:
I am hoping to address this in a round-about way in the future. For now, due to my previously mentioned reasons, it is not possible.You need an index per-user per-beatmap ordered by score. As this information is obviously not stored in a single table, it means duplicating a lot of data, which all needs to be updated on a regular basis. Making this an efficient lookup is one of the most challenging query types for a database. It of course can be done, but requires a lot of optimisation, consideration and storage space.mmstick wrote:
I don't see how this would be intensive to implement, plenty of other games do this. One way would be to store all scores on a server, only keeping the highest score a user makes and the client simply grabs the data from the website database in real-time (similar to embedding a frame of a webpage). Another way would be for the clients to individually ask other clients for their highest local scores to sync with and promptly attempt to sync with friends clients when a new high score is obtained.
Your solutions may sound simple to you, but aren't actually feasible due to over-simplication (suggestion 1) or incorrect approach (suggestion 2).
We can see when our friends are in the rank, so why can't we just make a filter for "yellow players" who are in the #400 ? I don't know if this is possible with those who are not :/
This is a wonderful idea! I actually wondering why something like this didn't exist when I first started playing a year ago. although I wasn't on the forums much, and didn't know you could make feature requests. I hope this gets added!
I support this, however if you learned how databases are made/how to make one it's going to be very difficult.
I'm trying to write a process tree down and it's giving me a headache
I'm trying to write a process tree down and it's giving me a headache
- Akari -_old
+1
If a full-blown friends scoreboard is not feasible right now, maybe we could at least get a filter for the top 400 (so it would only show those yellow names + their song rank)? Most of my friends would show up, but it's a little tedious to scroll through all 10 pages just to check if my friends are on it. I don't think that would be too difficult, would it?
The scoreboard's gotten way better lately in any case. Top 400 + mods + accuracy + relative rank is awesome.
The scoreboard's gotten way better lately in any case. Top 400 + mods + accuracy + relative rank is awesome.
This is something I really miss in this game, some way to compare to friends...
If I had stars I would add them to this. I'd know which of my friends I had highscores and which I wanted to beat this way.
she_old
As would Iloseri wrote:
I'd hunt your weak scores downKaoru wrote:
If I had stars I would add them to this. I'd know which of my friends I had highscores and which I wanted to beat this way.
One of the biggest features missing at the moment!
well, I want to hunt someone's score down as well >:D
+2
+2
Good idea! This will raise the competitive spirit amongst friends & foes.
Coincidentally I proposed to have your own score displayed while spectating another player in this thread. The 2 ideas will work well for a stalker...err I mean friends, friends!
Coincidentally I proposed to have your own score displayed while spectating another player in this thread. The 2 ideas will work well for a stalker...err I mean friends, friends!
Sounds nice.
Now only if I had friends to be competitive with.
Now only if I had friends to be competitive with.
Primula_old
+4 stars.. This is all I really look for when scrolling through the scores.. We already have the (Has Friends) thing, so why not make it that we can have just our friends scores shown.
+3 Come on Guys, just add this feature
People are still giving stars to this? Here's the bad news for those who didn't read whole thread:
peppy wrote:
I am hoping to address this in a round-about way in the future. For now, due to my previously mentioned reasons, it is not possible.You need an index per-user per-beatmap ordered by score. As this information is obviously not stored in a single table, it means duplicating a lot of data, which all needs to be updated on a regular basis. Making this an efficient lookup is one of the most challenging query types for a database. It of course can be done, but requires a lot of optimisation, consideration and storage space.mmstick wrote:
I don't see how this would be intensive to implement, plenty of other games do this. One way would be to store all scores on a server, only keeping the highest score a user makes and the client simply grabs the data from the website database in real-time (similar to embedding a frame of a webpage). Another way would be for the clients to individually ask other clients for their highest local scores to sync with and promptly attempt to sync with friends clients when a new high score is obtained.
Your solutions may sound simple to you, but aren't actually feasible due to over-simplication (suggestion 1) or incorrect approach (suggestion 2).
Kalle_old_1
I might not understood the whole problem, but how about having a "Show friends scores" button for each beatmap in the client, which then downloads the full rankings for said map and parses the info in the clients own computer?peppy wrote:
I am hoping to address this in a round-about way in the future. For now, due to my previously mentioned reasons, it is not possible.You need an index per-user per-beatmap ordered by score. As this information is obviously not stored in a single table, it means duplicating a lot of data, which all needs to be updated on a regular basis. Making this an efficient lookup is one of the most challenging query types for a database. It of course can be done, but requires a lot of optimisation, consideration and storage space.mmstick wrote:
I don't see how this would be intensive to implement, plenty of other games do this. One way would be to store all scores on a server, only keeping the highest score a user makes and the client simply grabs the data from the website database in real-time (similar to embedding a frame of a webpage). Another way would be for the clients to individually ask other clients for their highest local scores to sync with and promptly attempt to sync with friends clients when a new high score is obtained.
Your solutions may sound simple to you, but aren't actually feasible due to over-simplication (suggestion 1) or incorrect approach (suggestion 2).
It still requires downloading info from leaderboard beforehand, no?Kalle wrote:
I might not understood the whole problem, but how about having a "Show friends scores" button for each beatmap in the client, which then downloads the full rankings for said map and parses the info in the clients own computer?
Imagine million of users trying to fetch the leaderboard from the server...
This idea is interesting, which I support. But we need an efficient method so that it doesn't take too much server load.
Kalle_old_1
But only if user pushes the button to check, it wouldn't happen automatically, which would drastically reduce the traffic. can't really think about better method mainly because my understanding about programming is very minor.Winshley wrote:
It still requires downloading info from leaderboard beforehand, no?Kalle wrote:
I might not understood the whole problem, but how about having a "Show friends scores" button for each beatmap in the client, which then downloads the full rankings for said map and parses the info in the clients own computer?
Imagine million of users trying to fetch the leaderboard from the server...
This idea is interesting, which I support. But we need an efficient method so that it doesn't take too much server load.
How about making it a feature on the website?
You have the check box for no mod plays only... Add one for friends only?
I'm no programmer, so I have no idea how this would work, but it sounds easier than doing it through the osu program.
You have the check box for no mod plays only... Add one for friends only?
I'm no programmer, so I have no idea how this would work, but it sounds easier than doing it through the osu program.
Supporting! It's a cool idea!
This saves up so much time.
Wish I could support this but I have no votes
Wish I could support this but I have no votes
Yeah! I love that idea!
Any chances of there being a ranking list containing ONLY friends? I don't believe anybody asked for a unified list...
it's how peppy implemented it. don't expect him to do exactly what the request is asking for.mochi wrote:
Any chances of there being a ranking list containing ONLY friends? I don't believe anybody asked for a unified list...