Scrollbar instead of Next page buttons at Online Ranking [added]

theowest

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theowest 2012-04-02T19:29:58+00:00

So instead of the next button shown on that picture, I'm thinking osu! would be better off with a scrollbar, a similar one used for navigating through all of your beatmaps.

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Pressing buttons is something most people don't do. They'd rather scroll when it comes to multiple pages of things.

They can be cumbersome, so top and bottom buttons should be implemented.

People behind rank 6 would benefit from this.

Please come up with suggestions and criticism for this feature request.

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Sakura

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Sakura 2012-04-02T19:31:57+00:00

I think that would probably mess up the scroll wheel to scroll through the song list, other than that, i personally prefer the previous/next buttons

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theowest 2012-04-02T19:33:29+00:00

Sakura Hana wrote:
I think that would probably mess up the scroll wheel to scroll through the song list, other than that, i personally prefer the previous/next buttons

No. You have to place your cursor on the Online Rankings in order for you to scroll.
Much like when you place the cursor on the online rankings it brings you to the beatmap you're listening to if you've scrolled away somewhere.

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palinus 2012-04-02T20:14:01+00:00

I personally find theo's idea pretty genius, approves of this.

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em24_old 2012-04-02T20:17:46+00:00

Sounds good as an option atleast.

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arrwzy 2012-04-02T20:21:02+00:00

m4w11 wrote:
Sounds good as an option atleast.

Indeed, adding this as an option seems like a very good idea.

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YodaSnipe 2012-04-02T20:26:58+00:00

Yeah I hate pressing that damn arrow X fking times to get to see the other pages.

+1 /support~

Edit: I hope this does not get denied simply because sakura hana thinks it is unnecessary, or that it's not to her preference.

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theowest 2012-04-02T20:27:55+00:00

ZarkMan wrote:
m4w11 wrote:
Sounds good as an option atleast.
Indeed, adding this as an option seems like a very good idea.

It could be. But personally think it should be scroll by default.

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XK2238 2012-04-06T13:22:08+00:00

Woohoo! Supporting this

#car brake sound#
But, how many ranks will it contain? If ALL scores were to be loaded, it would take a very long time to show all of them, especially for Standard mode.

How about showing from #1 (obvious) to #100? Or #125/#150/#200?

(with the scrollbar)

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theowest 2012-04-06T13:23:04+00:00

XK2238 wrote:
Woohoo! Supporting this

#car brake sound#
But, how many ranks will it contain? If ALL scores were to be loaded, it would take a very long time to show all of them, especially for Standard mode.

How about showing from #1 (obvious) to #100? Or #125/#150/#200? (with the scrollbar)

how about just showing the normal top 40 for now?

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YodaSnipe 2012-04-06T17:29:53+00:00

Actually I think it'd kinda make sense to show top50 /website.

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theowest 2012-04-06T17:31:29+00:00

YodaSnipe wrote:
Actually I think it'd kinda make sense to show top50 /website.

let's just keep the same amount as it already is. there must be a reason to why it's only top 40 in-game and 50 at the website.

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XK2238 2012-04-07T02:51:19+00:00

theowest wrote:
XK2238 wrote:
Woohoo! Supporting this

#car brake sound#
But, how many ranks will it contain? If ALL scores were to be loaded, it would take a very long time to show all of them, especially for Standard mode.

How about showing from #1 (obvious) to #100? Or #125/#150/#200? (with the scrollbar)
how about just showing the normal top 40 for now?

You got it. (y)

theowest

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theowest 2012-04-15T16:16:02+00:00

This needs more attention.

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Sakura 2012-04-15T16:38:08+00:00

Derekku wrote:
As for bumping: There is really no need to unless your thread has had no responses for months. Keeping your thread on page 1 will not guarantee that peppy will read it, so please acknowledge this ahead of time.

Next time i'll delete your post.

theowest

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theowest 2012-04-16T07:49:17+00:00

Sakura Hana wrote:
Derekku wrote:
As for bumping: There is really no need to unless your thread has had no responses for months. Keeping your thread on page 1 will not guarantee that peppy will read it, so please acknowledge this ahead of time.
Next time i'll delete your post.

I did read that. I'm sorry for making that obvious mistake when I knew you wasn't suppose to bump so early. I'll make sure it never happens again.

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Lyase 2012-04-16T08:45:58+00:00

nice idea

i think not Scrollbar instead of Next page buttons but add Scrollbar is better

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xsrsbsns 2012-04-16T08:59:16+00:00

Oh lol by that quote I thought Sakura Hana was talking to Derekku there (lmao).

I'm not so sure about scrolling, but that small button IS sometimes annoying.

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theowest 2012-04-16T09:00:11+00:00

xsrsbsns wrote:
Oh lol by that quote I thought Sakura Hana was talking to Derekku there (lmao).

I'm not so sure about scrolling, but that small button IS sometimes annoying.

so what do you think is better than scrolling?

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xsrsbsns 2012-04-16T09:10:37+00:00

I don't have the slightest idea, just posted to half-support.

Not too bothered by them actually, I only find the buttons too small and cramped.

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Anzo 2012-05-11T12:40:35+00:00

theowest wrote:
xsrsbsns wrote:
Oh lol by that quote I thought Sakura Hana was talking to Derekku there (lmao).

I'm not so sure about scrolling, but that small button IS sometimes annoying.
so what do you think is better than scrolling?

^is it better to use the mouse scroll wheel here, with the addition of the scroll bars?
(visualize it like the ones in the song selection, but in the scoreboard)

+Support, but keep the button for accessibility.

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theowest 2012-05-11T23:22:01+00:00

no. don't keep the problem, the button.

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Sakura 2012-05-11T23:24:01+00:00

theowest wrote:
no. don't keep the problem, the button.

But i like the button

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theowest 2012-05-11T23:25:00+00:00

Sakura Hana wrote:
theowest wrote:
no. don't keep the problem, the button.
But i like the button

why?

example:
do people even use this button? instead of just scrolling.

it's time to move on. move to better things. scrolling is better.

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Sakura 2012-05-11T23:29:10+00:00

Way to take things into different contexts, then let's have all forum posts in the same pages instead of different ones since clicking the next/prev (1,2,..,etc) and jump are too much of a chore than scrolling down.

See what i did there?

The scrollbar you linked, clicking on the arrows just goes up or down by a few pixels, while the buttons are like (Next Page / Prev Page) on the rankings, i dont mind a scrolling system being added, but i'd prefer to be able to have it as an option to use the buttons or the scrollbar.

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theowest 2012-05-11T23:30:56+00:00

There's always this (automatically loading new pages)

but hey, this is in-game. it's no forum. just 40 ranks. easy to load. shouldn't be much of a problem. i was just kidding about that thing. but you get my point. nobody should use it.

I believe it will bring forth more exposure to the players. Don't you think? osu! players will just bring their mouse to the rankings and quickly scroll to see if there's anything worth watching. for example, there's always more fun to see a doubletime than a hardrock on top ranks. c: the doubletime might be hidden between a few ranks due to a few things, but in the end, the excitement lies in the uniqueness and how uncommon it is.

faster, better, easier.

it's time for a change. out with the old. c:

gosh im tired. good night

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Sakura 2012-05-11T23:40:44+00:00

I think it'd be better if we can use << >> with Next Page/Prev Page on the keyboard.

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theowest 2012-05-11T23:42:11+00:00

Sakura Hana wrote:
I think it'd be better if we can use << >> with Next Page/Prev Page on the keyboard.

but they are going to click on the replays they want to watch, so why not make them scroll right there, in the same box?

more people would rather click with their mouse than with their keyboard. I doubt they will ever know they will be able to use their keyboard.

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Anzo 2012-05-12T04:17:03+00:00

I'm not using my own computer now so I used my screenshot in my flashdrive :3
But please those buttons, it's a must have. (Yeah, its better to scroll but some people prefer using the buttons...)

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theowest 2012-05-12T12:35:24+00:00

that's pretty cool. either that or scrolling up and down

im sure the buttons can be kept, but once there's a scrollbar in there, more people are going to scroll. mark my word.

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peppy 2012-05-12T14:55:01+00:00

I was actually planning on offloading the loading of the scores beyond the first page (already done in test builds IIRC) because 99% of the time no-one checks past the first page. Not sure how to address this request, as a result

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theowest 2012-05-12T14:56:52+00:00

I'm glad to hear that.

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peppy 2012-05-12T14:57:44+00:00

I might just add a web link to access further scores, not too sure yet.

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theowest 2012-05-12T15:12:58+00:00

..but that wouldn't make people want to watch scores further back.

This feature request is not only solving the problem of having a harder time seeing scores further back, but also making people watch replays further back too. It will benefit both the players and the viewers. Players get more recognising by viewers finding more excitement further back where they can find a player they know or an awesome playthrough.

We have to decrease the 99% to as little as possible. Improving what's not being used is always better than moving it away in the corner where even less people will find it.

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peppy 2012-05-12T15:13:54+00:00

Why would people want to watch the lower replays? I can understand if they want to see no-mod plays, but this will also be added as an option (top-6-no-mod), so would nullify that value.

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theowest 2012-05-12T15:20:13+00:00

peppy wrote:
Why would people want to watch the lower replays?

Friend, someone you know. If I saw you on the top 40, I would most certainly watch you!

There might be a doubletime replay on a very hard map, hidden away behind less awesome scores due to a miss or two.
It doesn't have to be doubletime. Accuracy and combo breaks can always make less awesome replays go back and look less appealing to people.

The reason why people watch replays is because they want excitement. Through getting to know how a person you know play or through watching unique and awesome replays. They don't always hang around in the top 6. People go back to see if there's anything interesting.

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peppy 2012-05-12T15:22:36+00:00

Again, 99.8% of people won't use that unless I make a "friend-only" display. I have considered this as a separate option, but it has its caveats. Unrelated to this thread, of course.

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JappyBabes 2012-05-12T15:35:57+00:00

theowest wrote:
The reason why people watch replays is because they want excitement. Through getting to know how a person you know play or through watching unique and awesome replays. They don't always hang around in the top 6. People go back to see if there's anything interesting.

Perfect example

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theowest 2012-05-12T15:51:51+00:00

Yeah, that replay is amazing. You can even read that many of the comments on that difficulty is on cookiezi's replay ("cookiezi doubletime")

There are extremely many examples. Instead of removing, improve. Everybody will benefit. c:

The friends only display is quite unnecessary if you can remember who your friends are. People will probably also just add more and more friends. People who most likely isn't a real friend
There's many people you know but haven't friend requested. You might not want them as friends, but when it comes to watching them you might want to watch them just because you recognise them. When looking through replays, they might think: "Oh I know that guy" and then watch their replay.

I was thinking, when you're afk for a few seconds or more, the list should automatically scroll down, and when you go to hover with your mouse over it, it goes back up. Like what many of us have seen on other places before. It would work nicely as a guide for users to show that you can actually see more than 6 online ranks.

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Failed 2012-09-29T12:33:17+00:00

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theowest 2012-10-01T08:12:39+00:00

Added!