YAY! Rod!
Normally, when you vote for someone, you see or create arguments against the person you are voting for, before you vote for them. You did so after, you say?Wojjan wrote:
I voted for Lucidity in the way he voted me. If I don't receive any decent arguments to go on, I can't discredit a lot, now can I? Whatever I said and did others did too.strager wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=155228#p155228
I see this vote as justifyable by Jinxy's reasoning but Wojjan doesn't mention this.
Wojjan seems to say that Lucidity is voting against him because Lucidity's argument is "based on things [Wojjan] said and others said aswell." Well, what else would it be based off of? Wojjan didn't say/imply at all that Lucidity knows something more than him, and he didn't try to discredit the arguments against him by Lucidity. Wojjan just votes for whoever's voting for him here. Uh, okay.
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Second, I DID defend myself in this post. After my post, the remnants of Lucidity'sargumentsidiotic pleas for votechanges were broken down to bite-size feeble nothingness.
Lucidity's inexperienced. I and someone else have mentioned that she is behaving here like I did in my first game, M2.Wojjan wrote:
As JInxy can say it nicelyYou had not posted a reason when you voted for wojjan.Lucidity voted for me out of danger to get lynched off himself, not out of decent arguments. The only thing he has, and had repeated oftly, was thatFor now I find adam and Wojjan the most suspicious.You and Wojjan are so suspiciousU. N. Wojjan were suspicious? Yup, just like that. Reasons in the above posts mostly apply to adam instead of both, andYou and adam seem to act in unisonis supposed to pull me into suspicion too. Which apparently worked.
lolz.Echo wrote:
Adam was "more" buddying than the Pasonia example you gave. Pasonia said "I like strager's logic", whereas Adam said "I'm going to do whatever strager does".
You can't do that yourself?Pasonia wrote:
Think, Ival, THINK! We need you to kick-start your brain juices!
Ehh ... That's a pretty fishy statement if you ask me.Pasonia wrote:
Also withholding vote until more information arrives.
It's not a scum tell. It just so happens that they were inactive. Again, see M2: Derekku, nardi, Olinad were all inactive pretty much, but Derekku was the only of the three who was a Mafia. Maybe Derekku was hiding behind that fact; I don't know, but that seems kinda smart.Echo wrote:
Wrong - look at all the past ww/m games. Most of the people who didn't talk much were the bad guys. Back in M1 I didn't vote YK because I wasn't sure of this tell. Now I know better.strager wrote:
Echo, I know you're not stupid enough to vote for people who aren't very active.
Hmm, I guess I have. adam hasn't commented on anything really. I didn't realize I was "returning" the "buddying." What do you have to say for this, adam?Ivalset wrote:
"Buddying": In the past four pages or so, strager did all of adam's defense for him.
Ehh ... That's a pretty fishy statement if you ask me.Pasonia wrote:
Also withholding vote until more information arrives.
...If my posts are meaningful, then why are you voting for me? That makes no sense.thepianist wrote:
Vote Derekku Chan
His posts are slightly more meaningful than adam's but not as much so...
Find where I say that I wouldn't mind being lynched.thepianist wrote:
to be truthful, I do think that adam's the jester. [/avoids vote] he wanted an extension on day one and didn't mind the possibility of getting lynched. I think something like...
viewtopic.php?p=154303#p154303
Figure of speech
viewtopic.php?p=154960#p154960
Joke
viewtopic.php?p=155053#p155053
What are you trying to say? This seems irrelevant.
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Extra time = extra discussion
I have no idea what the fuck you are saying.neo@lex wrote:
Vote adam2046
Derekku seems suspicious to me, but adam seems stupiddr. Refusing to defend yourself is kinda stupid considering you had the chance to throw all the suspicion right back at Strager. If you've got a hax role, we're fucked.
He doesn't want to vote me because he thinks I'm the jester so the next best person to vote for is apparently you.Derekku Chan wrote:
...If my posts are meaningful, then why are you voting for me? That makes no sense.
It wasn't certain that Lucidity was going to be lynched. Only a few people were suspicious of Lucidity. You were pretty determined to move things quickly and kill them. BUT, Lucidity turned out to be innocent. HMMWojjan wrote:
Let's score a majority then, if he'll get lynched anyway. No point in waiting for 2 more days for the deadline to kick in
Vote Lucidity to move things along
Lucidity made random votes and joked around like everyone else. Why were you their case so harshly? I thought this was pretty retarded.Wojjan wrote:
Lucidity, don't act all "you're trying to kill me ;((" since you tried to kill yourself aswell. You VOTED for you, you claimed Mafia, and now you suddenly turn around, jump the shark, and try to survive.
I think the town won't buy your show and if the Mafia doesn't get you, we WILL.
The suspicion is on you because you were acting fucking stupid and doing what I've already said multiple times.Wojjan wrote:
Wait wait wait, did I miss something? Is Lucidity suddenly the general force of truth that should be listened to at all times? Because seeing as his argument is only based on things I said and others said as well, I don't see why his suspicion is on me.
vote: Lucidity if I haven't done so already
True, but I personally saw nothing wrong with Lucidity. They were joking and having fun, yet you kept attacking them for the stupidest shit. You obviously won't change your opinion of this matter, so I have nothing else to say either.Wojjan wrote:
It was a vote with the majority to move things along to the next day. In the first day, we can't really get a lot of info so I thought we might as well move on to day 2, with some night actions people can comment/base arguments on. (I was however proven wrong, since that post ironically flared up the discussion :/)
I believe Lucidity voted for you for the same reasons I did (throwing all the suspicion at them). You voted for Lucidity because they were joking around. I don't see how that's "the same".Wojjan wrote:
I voted for Lucidity in the way he voted me. If I don't receive any decent arguments to go on, I can't discredit a lot, now can I? Whatever I said and did others did too.
You don't know that for sure. I guess this is strengthened by the fact that Lucidity was innocent.Wojjan wrote:
Lucidity voted for me out of danger to get lynched off himself, not out of decent arguments. The only thing he has, and had repeated oftly
Already pointed out by Lucidity - you're seem compelled to kill Lucidty for some reason, to the extent that you would openly invite everyone to join your lynch. This move is obviously extremely scummy, which I'm sure you know. Furthermore, you were the first person to even suggest the Jester existed. It's much more likely that you are the Jester, if such a role exists.I won't say "I told you so"adam2046 wrote:
So if Lucidity is jester, it's in the mafia's best interests to NK her tonight (since the jester loses that way) if she's still alive tomorrow I will lynch her. (and I strongly urge everyone else to do so aswell)
BagelBob wrote:
Also, I want to strongly recommend that all night actions be used on Echo.
If you have an investigation, it's important for the town to know if Echo is an evil wolf and going to doom us all.
If you have a protection, it's important that Echo is alive, because Echo is smart and could doom the wolves.
If you have an invite to a secret society, having Echo in there could really give you a boost.
If you have a night kill, you might want to save it. Or you might want to kill Echo on if you think he's a wolf.
If you have a revive, why are you considering a night action?
If you have a voteblock, are you a member of the Mafia?
Super scummy power activateBagelBob really wrote:
Also, I want Echo out of here since he's a threat to me.
If you have an investigation, tell me if he has an Aux so if it's worth lynching him
If you have a protection, use it on Echo, because then I can kill him the next night.
If you have an invite to a secret society, invite Echo, then he's no longer going a townie going for the Mafia but a third party.
If you have a night kill, you might want to save it. Then I'll kill him instead.
Blah
Unimportance
I think "I lol'd" was his last words...Echo wrote:
Can we ban strager from threads he's dead in since it seems like he can't control himself?
In this post you say that people who are inactive are usually innocent humans, but you don't seem to care if we vote them or not, seen as inDerekku Chan wrote:
Saying that someone is scum based on inactivity is WIFOM thinking. In every game I've been in so far, the inactive people have been innocent. I don't think someone with an important role like mafia/aux would be inactive. But who knows, it could be scum this time :<
Keeping my vote as is for now, though.
Also, you're really steadfast to tell everyone your vote for me still stands. Really, that's a very serious vote you have going there and I can't wait to see you say it's really gonna stay for a third/fourth time. Really, nothing scummy about that at all.Derekku Chan wrote:
But who knows, it could be scum this time :<
contradicts thisDerekku Chan wrote:
EDIT: Actually, it should've been implied by my most that I DO care if inactives are killed off. If they haven't posted, then we know nothing about them and thus shouldn't be lynched just for being inactive. We could by killing an important aux role.
since you obviously try to keep the votes here, and have a possible townie lynched offDerekku Chan wrote:
But who knows, it could be scum this time :<
Derekku Chan wrote:
I was just stating that I'm not going to change my vote to someone else.
Derekku Chan wrote:
Keeping my vote as is for now, though.
makes 3 times. we KNOW you won't change your vote by not changing your vote. Why so dedicated to making us know for sure?Derekku Chan wrote:
My vote for Wojjan still stands. :S
I have a habit of thinking of more things after hitting the post button XPWojjan wrote:
1) 3 edits. What the hell.
Uh, no it doesn't. Let me elaborate since you're obviously not understanding me. I said that we SHOULDN'T lynch someone JUST for being inactive. It SEEMS like the inactives are USUALLY innocent, but we don't know for sure. Do you get what I'm saying now?Wojjan wrote:
2)Thiscontradicts thisDerekku Chan wrote:
EDIT: Actually, it should've been implied by my most that I DO care if inactives are killed off. If they haven't posted, then we know nothing about them and thus shouldn't be lynched just for being inactive. We could by killing an important aux role.since you obviously try to keep the votes here, and have a possible townie lynched offDerekku Chan wrote:
But who knows, it could be scum this time :<
inb4WIFOM
The third one you pointed out was my vote for the day. The second one in your list is what I elaborated on in your first list item. I'm not "reinforcing" my vote, I'm just elaborating on it.Wojjan wrote:
also, thisDerekku Chan wrote:
I was just stating that I'm not going to change my vote to someone else.Derekku Chan wrote:
Keeping my vote as is for now, though.makes 3 times. we KNOW you won't change your vote by not changing your vote. Why so dedicated to making us know for sure?Derekku Chan wrote:
My vote for Wojjan still stands. :S
there's this handy thing called previewDerekku Chan wrote:
I have a habit of thinking of more things after hitting the post button XP
Uh, no it doesn't. Let me elaborate since you're obviously not understanding me. I said that we SHOULDN'T lynch someone JUST for being inactive. It SEEMS like the inactives are USUALLY innocent, but we don't know for sure. Do you get what I'm saying now?then why are you bringing it up in the first place? Simply to get us distracted from the case, as Bobby would put it.
I'm not "reinforcing" my vote, I'm just elaborating on it.you said the exact same 3 times. You vote for me. How is that elaborated?
Seriously, stop twisting my words around using these little word arguments. They're not helping your case and it's just making you look even more scummy :PYes, since pointing out the holes in your posts is obviously scummy and should be punished with my very life.
Wojjan wrote:
/sarcasm
Screw you, I have work.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Hm, who to vote for...to many people being inactive hurts this game from moving on so...
... and you haven't made a post since.Starrodkirby86 (day 2) wrote:
And I'm still yet to go make a vote. I have done some neglectfulness around, but I'll try and update myself fully into this world.
Iono - I don't think it is a definite scumtell since sometimes RL gets in the way and you don't want to make a 1 min post that makes no sense. It's slightly easier to just read and post a reply sometime when free time comes around.Echo wrote:
Lurking is a scumtell because by doing so you're avoiding talking (posting). And by doing that, people can't gather any information or evidence about said people, which means it's virtually impossible to get them lynched for anything except for lurking.
Unless its importance is higher than HIGH, I don't see why you only have time to post 4 times in this thread.neo@lex wrote:
Screw you, I have work.
Bandwagoning isn't really a way to tell scum in bigger Mafia games, since there exist roles as Masons, who know certain people which are human. Similar roles can be Siblings and Cults. There might be other, but those are the ones I can name from the top of my head.thepianist wrote:
But I feel that DeathxShinigami is bandwagoning on JInxyjem's post.
Vote DeathxShinigami
(at least for now.)
This begs the question - are you a mason, sibling, or cult member/leader? I'm sure you one of the above.Wojjan wrote:
Bandwagoning isn't really a way to tell scum in bigger Mafia games, since there exist roles as Masons, who know certain people which are human. Similar roles can be Siblings and Cults.
Rather than just "thinking it out thoroughly", why not post your thoughts and both give and gather more information that way instead?Starrodkirby86 wrote:
I have some faint thoughts of who I should vote for, but I'd rather think it out thoroughly before making a rash decision.
Everything about this game should have been in this thread only, so all you have to do is read through the last 15 posts or so.neo@lex wrote:
Has anyone tried personally asking thepianist stuff related to his spontaneous self-accusation?
Taking after me eh?LadySuburu wrote:
Day blah blah Night blah blah tomorrow at this time.
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This game is just Meh now.strager wrote:
Taking after me eh?LadySuburu wrote:
Day blah blah Night blah blah tomorrow at this time.
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