Leorda wrote:

[General]
* For all diff, you have to map the part at 01:11:085. So far the break space is too long. Also, I think this part is mappable, I think It may be mappable, but it's still hard to map it, because the voice isn't following a constant rhythm. Aditionally I asked some other MATs/BATs, and they all said the length is okay.

[Yli's Normal]
02:02:524 (3) - Overlapped by spinner-osu, could be hidden for beginners who play this diff while gameplay http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/316211 Flipped 02:01:953 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - vertically and replaced 02:07:096 (3,4) - because of spacing

Leorda wrote:

NI HAO
Hi Hi

[General]
* [Hard] is too hard for hard diff. You need to make another hard diff. So it makes a good difficulty spread
Ok. Middle stream cropped to 1\2, although I don't agree with this. I'll wait for more mods before taking action on this.
* For all diff, you have to map the part at 01:11:085. So far the break space is too long. Also, I think this part is mappable,
^
I think * Invisible hitcircleoverlay.png is UNRANKABLE
Invisible hitcircleoverlay.png or invisible center part of hitcircle.png?

S i e g wrote:

Charles445 wrote:

[Quick Overview]

Overview by request, no KD needed.
np

[General]
The skin is very interesting, but it needs to have the boundaries of the circles clear. Otherwise the player doesn't know exactly where to hit. Also the center shouldn't be completely transparent - it should reflect the color of the object a little.
skin updated

[Hard]
Beat gets very repetitive with so much 1/2. The difficulty could use more interesting elements like more streams (especially the piano part, playing that all 1/2 felt strange). The spacing is awkward as well, varying from very close together to all the way across the map (this is frustrating to play)
1\4 in the piano part are back.
Spacing.


Mapset has potential, but the skin needs to be more understandable and the Hard needs to be made more interesting / less repetitive.

Thanks for quick overview! \\ updated

1. Break in this diff. is way too long, it's even inconsistent to normal, at least make them the same, ends break when 01:17:942
2. 01:20:228 (1) - Slider start, remove finish better imo, there's no such feeling in background music
3. 01:22:514 (1) - Slider start, add finish here would be better
4. 01:24:799 (1) -
5. 01:47:667 (5) - (nazi) 1 grid right, it's not in a row with 01:47:371 (4)
6. 01:48:238 (1,2,3,4) - I'd suggest use normal hitsound to those notes, if you want keeping soft hitsound, at least add whistle sound to 01:48:238 (1,2,3) - that fit music more
7. 01:52:809 (1,2,3,4) - ^
8. 02:07:666 (x) - Start normal hitsound here
9. 02:19:666 (1) - Add finish here (slider head)
10. 02:24:237 (1) - ^
11. 02:28:809 (1) - ^
12. 02:27:666 (4) - Seems no need add finish here
13. 02:29:952 (4) - ^
14. 02:31:095 (1) - Slider head, remove clap seems better, why add clap here?
15. 02:33:381 (1) - Slider head, add finish would be nice
16. 02:34:238 (3) - Slider end, idk why you like add finish in the middle of a bar, that sounds weird for me, remove this would be better. Generally, finish sound should at the beginning or end of a bar :/
17. 02:36:809 (1) - ^
18. 02:37:952 (1) - Add finish
19. 02:40:237 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The clap you used here seems ruleless, maybe you can try 2-4 clap, which mean add clap at 2nd and 4th white line in a bar (Count from the long white line, there are 4 white lines in a bar)

1. 02:07:667 (4) - How about use normal hitsound to this note?
2. 02:19:667 (1) - Add finish
3. 02:37:953 (1) - ^
4. 02:40:238 (1) - ^
   pretty sliders <3

Breeze wrote:

[Hard]

+all exept

Half of break time is mapped so it seems more sense in this finish now.
01:20:228 (1) - Slider start, remove finish better imo, there's no such feeling in background music

idk, yep they not follow standart, but sounds so cute as for me.
02:40:237 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - The clap you used here seems ruleless, maybe you can try 2-4 clap, which mean add clap at 2nd and 4th white line in a bar (Count from the long white line, there are 4 white lines in a bar)[/list]

nice song and also nice skin, map itself is fine though, I'm hoping it has more strong sound effect like finish and whistle in hard diff., that would make your map more perfect!

Thanks.

BonkuraChan wrote:

Star

Breeze wrote:

A quick recheck here, no need to kudos this post

[Hard]

About the break part you mapped, I think it's not a good idea to map this part with following lyric, follow drum sound or create your own rhythm would be better

I'd to say I love this song, star for you

Breeze wrote:

[Normal]

1. 02:07:667 (4) - How about use normal hitsound to this note? Done
2. 02:19:667 (1) - Add finish Done
3. 02:37:953 (1) - ^ Done
4. 02:40:238 (1) - ^ Done
   pretty sliders <3 Thanks =)

Wiinter wrote:

starring it cuz the song is awesome <3 (and I really like the map and skin~)

Thank you.

ErufenRito wrote:

Hello

[General:]

Love the skin, although the lack of combo numbers did disappoint, consider adding something of this style http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/318165
Yep, nice style for combo numbers but eh... people so often whine they didn't see a thing. Anyway I'll try to find something suitable.

[Hard:]

01:38:514 (1) - Should end at 01:38:799, if you do this, also add a circle at 01:38:942 - and 01:39:085 -
01:39:657 (7) - End it at 01:39:942 - and then add a circle at 01:40:085 -
01:40:800 (5) - Same as above
02:39:381 (4) - Please, end it at 02:39:666 - and then add another beat at 02:39:952 -
+all. Why not?

Nice song choice, and the map is good too, nothing really wrong to fix

Thanks.
ps I love your maps.

Crok425 wrote:

Sorry, man. The map is way to good to mod, so to compensate, I'll give the map a star.

1. What a beautiful skin; very fitting for the map.
2. According to wiki, this song is alternative rock and progressive metal specifically. Do what you will, but I suggest you at least tag metal since you already have rock tagged.
3. I see you tagged system. If you're going to do this, also tag: of a down and SOAD.
4. You must include a difficulty under 3 stars. Without this, your map is currently unrankable, so please include an easy diff.
5. Other than that, the song folder looks clear~

1. Nice use of slider art and symmetry; it really fits the music!
2. Usually the whistle hitsound is horrifying to hear, but it's used very pleasantly here~
3. What a splendid difficulty to play! It's fun and creative, and I can't mod it at all.

1. 01:29:657 - The accents in these next few streams would play awesome with jumps, considering this is the hardest difficulty in the mapset. For example, stacking (7) under (1) of the next stream might be fun in the first 3 [line] streams, and last 3.
2. 01:38:514 (1) - What you did in this whole lalala part was great.

S i e g wrote:

SPOILER

Haruka wrote:

What an interesting choice of song to map; Serj's work both solo and with System of a Down is just amazing.
I'm here on behalf of this queue. Makar and I swapped a mod each due to problems, so I hope I'll suffice!

[General]

1. What a beautiful skin; very fitting for the map.
2. According to wiki, this song is alternative rock and progressive metal specifically. Do what you will, but I suggest you at least tag metal since you already have rock tagged.
3. I see you tagged system. If you're going to do this, also tag: of a down and SOAD.
4. You must include a difficulty under 3 stars. Without this, your map is currently unrankable, so please include an easy diff.
5. Other than that, the song folder looks clear~

[Yli's Normal]

1. Nice use of slider art and symmetry; it really fits the music!
2. Usually the whistle hitsound is horrifying to hear, but it's used very pleasantly here~
3. What a splendid difficulty to play! It's fun and creative, and I can't mod it at all.

[Hard]

1. 01:29:657 - The accents in these next few streams would play awesome with jumps, considering this is the hardest difficulty in the mapset. For example, stacking (7) under (1) of the next stream might be fun in the first 3 [line] streams, and last 3.
2. 01:38:514 (1) - What you did in this whole lalala part was great.

Very fun and cleverly composed mapset; seems close to bubbling, so goodluck on your ventures!
Also, sorry this mod wasn't very helpful. I would like to earn my kd if you feel I don't deserve it by looking at that easy when you're done~

I'll fix general things with tags. Thanks. As for 3 stats, normal is 3 stars.

1. 00:16:774 (1,3) - Add whistle sounds great imo, or here sounds empty
2. 00:19:076 (1,4) - ^
3. 00:27:942 (2,4) - ^
4. 00:32:799 (1) - Slider end, ^
5. 00:33:942 (5) - ^
   The break part you remaped looked nice now

Breeze wrote:

[Hard]

1. 00:16:774 (1,3) - Add whistle sounds great imo, or here sounds empty
2. 00:19:076 (1,4) - ^
3. 00:27:942 (2,4) - ^
4. 00:32:799 (1) - Slider end, ^
5. 00:33:942 (5) - ^
   Yep you rights, +whistles.
   The break part you remaped looked nice now Thanks

fabriciorby wrote:

[general]
Really nice map and song, Serj is really awesome!

SPOILER

[normal]
02:47:238 (1) - Maybe it can ends with a soft timing section?
02:05:953 (1) - Soft timing section here?

[hard]
00:24:228 (2) - whistle
00:26:514 (3,4) - remove whistle
00:27:085 (5) - add whistle?
01:28:228 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl+<?
02:03:666 (1) - normal timing section maybe
02:05:952 (1) - whistle
02:06:524 (2) - whistle
02:07:095 (4) - ^
02:07:381 (5) - ^
02:41:380 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl + >
02:42:523 (1,2,3,4) - if ^, ctrl + >

that's it haha

Darksonic wrote:

Hello, from Queue

SPOILER

Yli's Normal:

00:36:799 (1): Unnecesary NC imo, remove it.

Hard:

00:24:228 (2): This ?
00:45:371 (1): Remove NC.
00:45:942 (2): NC.
01:13:371 (4): Add Finish?
01:14:514 (1): Finish at the end of slider.
01:42:514 (6): Remove Whistle at the body and in repeat.
02:36:809 (1): Remove NC.

That's all for me. Awesome map, take a star and good luck!

LKs wrote:

DLed and played your map, sadly your map doesn't meet my criteria, but the skin is really great.

Have a star and a star icon

btw: may I use your skin elements on my map? Like your hitcircle and sliderball design

1. As Normal diff uses too much 1/2 rhythm, you are better to do an Easy diff (or to make Normal more easier). It looks like Hard- or Normal+. And you have just one diff for newbies.
2. And why normal has tick rate 2, while hard has 1?

1. Again, as I said in General, you used too many 1/2 rhythms for Normal. Please, try to make it easier to look like 'Normal-easiest diff'
2. 00:16:774 - 00:25:371 - decrease the volume (~40%)
3. 00:23:657 (2) - I would better put an new combo after such a beautiful symmetrical slider
4. 00:32:228 (1) - finish here as you have one on 00:27:657 (4) -
5. 01:17:943 (1,2,3,4) - make a square
6. 01:20:228 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - too much 1/2. Try this (look at the time panel):
   
   SPOILER

   
7. 01:33:943 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - again, too much 1/2. Maybe continue 01:29:371 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this pattern?
8. 01:38:514 - why there is no kiai as in Hard :<
9. 01:38:800 (2,3) - I don't like in what way (2) overlaps the beginning of (3). Do this:
   
   SPOILER

   
10. 01:41:086 (1,2) - ^
11. 01:43:371 (1,2) - ^
12. 02:01:953 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 1/2 yeah. 02:02:238 (2) - at least remove it
13. 02:05:953 (1,2,3,4) - use soft hitsound
14. 02:10:524 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - whyyyy too much 1/2? :С try to use 02:15:381 (1,2,3) - this rhythm, it's easy and cool.
15. 02:37:953 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
    
    Good diff, but little hard. Remove some 1/2 rhythms and it will be ok!

1. 00:16:774 - 00:25:371 - decrease the volume (~40%)
2. 00:52:799 (1) - finish here, as 00:48:228 (1) -
3. 00:55:085 (1) - ^ as 00:50:514 (1) -
4. 00:57:371 (1) - ^
5. 00:59:657 (2) - ^
6. 01:30:514 (7) - maybe make kiai on every such note? o3o (01:31:657 (7) - 01:32:800 (7) - 01:33:942 (7) - 01:35:085 (7) - 01:36:228 (7) - 01:37:371 (7) - )
7. 02:12:809 (1) - remove clap
   
   SO AWESOME MAP!

Reiji-RJ wrote:

Hello.
Hallo.

General

1. As Normal diff uses too much 1/2 rhythm, you are better to do an Easy diff (or to make Normal more easier). It looks like Hard- or Normal+. And you have just one diff for newbies. Idk but imo normal is pretty easy.
2. And why normal has tick rate 2, while hard has 1? It's maybe little strange but 2 tr prefectly fits to normal and no-good for hard as for me lol.

Hard

1. 00:16:774 - 00:25:371 - decrease the volume (~40%) +
2. 00:52:799 (1) - finish here, as 00:48:228 (1) - +
3. 00:55:085 (1) - ^ as 00:50:514 (1) - +
4. 00:57:371 (1) - ^ +
5. 00:59:657 (2) - ^ +
6. 01:30:514 (7) - maybe make kiai on every such note? o3o (01:31:657 (7) - 01:32:800 (7) - 01:33:942 (7) - 01:35:085 (7) - 01:36:228 (7) - 01:37:371 (7) - ) Imo fountains is not cute enough to use them so often.
7. 02:12:809 (1) - remove clap I like this clap.
   
   SO AWESOME MAP!

Serj Tankian <3
I love this, good luck >w<

Reiji-RJ wrote:

Normal

1. Again, as I said in General, you used too many 1/2 rhythms for Normal. Please, try to make it easier to look like 'Normal-easiest diff'
2. 00:16:774 - 00:25:371 - decrease the volume (~40%) Done
3. 00:23:657 (2) - I would better put an new combo after such a beautiful symmetrical slider Done
4. 00:32:228 (1) - finish here as you have one on 00:27:657 (4) - Done
5. 01:17:943 (1,2,3,4) - make a square Disaggree
6. 01:20:228 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - too much 1/2. Try this (look at the time panel):
   
   SPOILER

   
   I don't think there are too many 1/2
7. 01:33:943 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - again, too much 1/2. Maybe continue 01:29:371 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this pattern? Same
8. 01:38:514 - why there is no kiai as in Hard :< Because I don't see a Kiai here.
9. 01:38:800 (2,3) - I don't like in what way (2) overlaps the beginning of (3). Do this:
   
   SPOILER

   
   But I do --> no changes
10. 01:41:086 (1,2) - ^ ^
11. 01:43:371 (1,2) - ^ ^
12. 02:01:953 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - 1/2 yeah. 02:02:238 (2) - at least remove it Disaggree
13. 02:05:953 (1,2,3,4) - use soft hitsound There used to be Soft sampleset O.o Reput
14. 02:10:524 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - whyyyy too much 1/2? :С try to use 02:15:381 (1,2,3) - this rhythm, it's easy and cool. Disaggree
15. 02:37:953 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ ^
    
    Good diff, but little hard. Remove some 1/2 rhythms and it will be ok! I don't think it is that hard. Additional Osu says it is Star Rating 3,02, so it shall be okay.

CDFA wrote:

Normal:
00:59:657 (1,2,3,4,5) - The star is a bit unsymmetrical. I'm guessing it has something to do with 4 and 5. This is how it looks atm. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/326255
Well, it wasn't supposed to be a star, but fixed it anyway

CDFA wrote:

Time for some kawaii.

Overall
00:16:774 - The red sections here aren't neccesary! The song is straight 4/4, and there's no BPM change or anything.
I left this for now as it is.

Hurd:
01:52:095 (8) - Just make these into 2 notes I like this slider.
01:56:667 (8) - ^ same^
02:47:238 (1) - Add whistle? +

It definatley has gotten better since the last time I've modded it.

1. There's a lot of 1/1 single notes in this diff that are kind of boring like 00:34:525 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - and 01:20:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I'm sure you can do something more creative with these ^_^

Shulin wrote:

All suggestions based on playing your map ~
Yli's Normal:

00:41:382 (1) - Remove normal whistle from the end? It think the whistle fits here
00:42:525 (3) - ^ ^
00:45:954 (1) - Whistle the whole slider except the end, like 00:50:525 (1) - Done
00:47:097 (2) - Remove whistle, it sounds odd imo. Done
00:51:668 (2) - ^ ^
01:49:954 (1) - Remove new combo. Done
02:11:097 (3,4,1,2) - Overlap is kind of confusing imo, I think it'd play better spaced out more. Also the combo pattern here is strange compared to the rest of this section. Changed
02:21:954 (1) - Remove new combo. Done

Sieg wrote:

updated

edit:

Because of no further improvement and lack of mapping skill (I lost interest in this), map is officially dropped. Sorry.

Sieg wrote:

I don't feel I can finish this beatmap now, maybe later.

-Bakari- wrote:

:lol: так. речек.

[General]
киаи разные. это так и надо, да?
на начало ставь нормал секции, но очень тихии. так вроде лучше звучит. Софт там никак.

[Easy]
после какого-то одного спиннера, нету нового комбо на ноте. Анранк

~~~~~~~~
ну и если не лень, то можешь чекнуть все слайдеры,и все фигуры. хотя вроде они чистые.
у меня просто интернет вылетел, и нормальный модпост вместе с ним.

Собственно все. Надо бы и бабл выбить для карты

не думаю, что за столь "содержательный пост" стоит давать кд

Sieg wrote:

Hi, thanks for hs mod but no changes, these claps you suggested over soft sections and in middle part sounds really awkward.

Cilvery wrote:

[Yli's Normal]
00:24:668 - add whistle Done
00:59:668 - ^ Disaggree
02:07:668 - add clap Done

SakiK wrote:

[Yli's Normal]

fun slider /o/
00:47:097 (2) - add whistel like 00:45:954 (1) - Disaggree
00:51:668 (2) - ^ ^
00:55:097 (5) - NC Disaggree
01:49:954 (6) - ^ ^
01:54:525 (4) - ^ ^
02:17:382 (4) - ^ ^
02:21:954 (5) - ^ ^

• • Nothing wrong here

• - 02:08:239 (1) - Remove this new combo because doesn't fit well with the music
  - 02:14:525 (6) - Unstack this note because is hard to play for newbies players in my opinion
  - 02:35:668 (3) - Same ^
  - 02:42:525 (5) - If you follow the rhythm, add a new combo here

• -- Nice diff

• -- Pretty nice

wmfchris wrote:

[Hard]
00:25:382 (1) - flip vertically to avoid covered by previous slider (2)? Why? This is a previous slider, and this reads fine and looks fine.
00:32:239 (1) - finish at the beginning as you've done before? done
00:33:097 (2,4) - try to place (2) down 3 grids + (4) up 3 grids lv4 so that (4) is more easily to be read under slider done
01:10:525 (2) - [Nazi] right 1 grid to that (2,3) forms a normal to the center of (4) done
02:13:954 (3,4) - not suggested to place below (1) as it's highly covered done
02:21:954 - not really fit with the whole song are such triplet didn't appear in other places but, the song itself has triplet there

[Easy]
00:52:811 (1) - finish at the end like before done
sliders like 02:44:811 (1) - and 00:29:382 (2) - would be hard for easy players to determine the path of sliders so consider to change it.done

wmfchris wrote:

looks fine now, rebubbled~

EDIT: rebubbled after aleks' timing fix