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Gunzil
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I feel obligated to post this link:

http://pepper.idge.net/japanese/

Author's Note:This whole essay, although sprinkled with truisms here and there, is a joke and should be taken like one. I'm actually a Japanese major myself, and even if I've given it a bit of a hard time, I love the Japanese language, and I think everyone should give it a try.

You should just be ready for a whole lot of pain.

HAPPY LANGUAGE LEARNING!
awp
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I've read that before lol
Alieax
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You know, the bad thing about having no clue how to make japanese symbols, is that i only know how to write them out with english letters. Bokuwa Tensai da. >:D
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Talk about bumping an old thread @alieax :P

That being said,

僕、来年大学で日本語を習うかもしれませんよ
Pokebis
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I've been slowly trying to learn by myself. I was going pretty strong untill I got into Hiragana and Katakana. Good thing I have pimp music videos like this one:
An64fan
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Know a little bit of vocabulary and have some understanding of the grammar. I'm going to get myself into some courses sometime.


Oh, and I went to Japanese 101 at Otafest last year. Although we were told after the fact that it was like Japanese 101 and 102 in like an hour. Lol.
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awp
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I was learning last semester, I'll probably pick it up again next semester
Otium_old
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I can introduce myself, but that is pretty much it. I've only learned a little from my brother who went in a Japanese class.
So far I only know Ko & Ni in katakana and No in Hiragana as signs.
Still learning and when I go out school this year I'll probably try to attend a japanese class.
Yuukari-Banteki
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peppy wrote:

A little bonus - the origin of the kanji is as follows:
「おはようございます」
ohayou gozaimasu (good morning)

「おはよーっす」→
ohayo-ssu

「おわーす」→
owa-su

「おす」
osu

「押して忍ぶ」（自我を抑え我慢する）
(押して)oshite (忍ぶ)shinobu (to push and withstand) - having the meaning of "swallowing one's ego and bearing with it"

Leads us to the final 「押忍」.

Hopefully I'm not too far off with this translation :).

This is a fascinating example of phonetic erosion and rebracketing <3 can I have some more?
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adam2046
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Been learning for a few years at highschool, but I suck.
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こんにちはみんなさん。今、私は日本語勉強をしましたよ。私は二年間に日本語勉強をします。

I've started learning Japanese since I was 16 in Fukuoka, Japan. To be honest, it was the first time I've started learning it. My dad was surprised about my achievements. At first, I was a beginner. Until now, I'm stil a beginner, getting close to an intermediate student. I'm still learning in London.
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Ekaru
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Learning it, been taking Level 1 Japanese all year. After all, I need to take a language, and I decided to take this one (only other options were Chinese, Spanish, and French, and this one could actually get me a job, so what the hell?).

Right now we're on some basic grammar (time, 'de' for where it takes place, 'wo' stuff, ect. Nothing complex... yet) and some culture stuff. Not looking forward to doing a report at the end of it all.

Been fun to learn, currently working on raising my grade (mid-term was 'ACK' this time). Helps me get into the habit of studying, since you're screwed in this class if you don't study. ;_;
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Pasonia wrote:

nana
I thought it was shichi
Echo
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yon/shi nana/shichi kyuu/ku

shi sounds like "death"
shichi sounds too similar to ichi
ku sounds like "suffering"

something like that >.<
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neo@lex wrote:

my teacher didn't even know what Hentai, Baka and Sukumizu meant...
Wat? That better be your math teacher.
Ekaru
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Seriously? My teacher sure as heck knows what they mean. We had to create words from the first 25 characters or so with flash cards, and this guy behind me was one of those guys who never paid attention, nor put any effort into it, so he didn't know any words, so I "helped" him by oh so "graciously" tell him to put a 'ha' above a 'ka', and to add one of those thingys to it (good ol' dragging characters for him).

...Needless to say, when the teacher saw that, it didn't go well.

*Ahem* But I am seriously amazed your teacher doesn't know the meanings of at least hentai, of all things......
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neo@lex wrote:

Echo wrote:

yon/shi nana/shichi kyuu/ku

shi sounds like "death"
shichi sounds too similar to ichi
ku sounds like "suffering"

something like that >.<
I know about 四 and 七, but are you sure ku isn't just a mispronunciation?
I'm sure I read that somewhere before :/

I think it is true since 九時 is pronounced "kuji" and not "kyuuji"
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http://www.eudict.com/?lang=engjap&word=nine&go=Search
Umumu.
Gabi
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oishi! (sp?) , tastes good, right? im trying to learn but its going slow.
Yosuke Hanamura_old
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Personally I took three years in high school, other than that I practice from time to time (when I'm bored).
Atmey
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It isn't very practical to learn it in a professional way. I know few words from anime.
An64fan
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Yosuke Hanamura wrote:

Personally I took three years in high school, other than that I practice from time to time (when I'm bored).
I envy you. :( Our school only has French, Spanish, and I think German.

And at the local university there are some Japanese courses, but there's a prerequisite of Japanese 20.... Not that I have any idea where I'm supposed to get that, with no classes at high school... And they don't list it in the university classes, only as a prerec.....
FurukawaPan
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I was in the same boat as you back in highschool An, with my school only offering programs in French and Spanish and ultimately only got to take Japanese class when I discovered there was a local Japanese language school in Ottawa (OJLS). I would research this in your own neck of the woods, to see if any local schools are offering Japanese lessons.
lukewarmholiday
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Hey I hear you guys like Japanese, mind translating this title 東方めどれ～圧縮すぺしゃる！

:3
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Card N'FoRcE
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I studied it a bit on my own, but i don't remember so much >.<
And i almost don't know any kanji >.<
I think i'll start studying it again after high school, i really need to know more grammar, at least to be able to speak something xD

Anyway, i think all the words i know are from listening to animes.
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eirrol
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I nvever knew peppy is this bored! ROFL!
Pokebis
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eirrol wrote:

I nvever knew peppy is this bored! ROFL!
Ahahahaha-- Wait, what?
WyndII
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Uhm I now know what are the Japanese for months and days, numbers only 1 - 10 ( ichi, ni, san, yon, go, roku, shichi, hachi, kyuu, juu) lol, I know hiragana. I know nothing about Katakana and Kanji. Except the word Kokoro in Youtube which is in Katakana, I think. I also can't type Japanese symbols here in my computer. I learned how to read hiragana by playing My Japanese Couch DS :| but since my DS died 3 weeks ago...... :(
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Orkel
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I speak some Japanese, my skills are kinda at the "simple everyday conversation" level. I know the hiragana/katakana and around 70 kanji or so, but I'm still trying to learn the grammatical rules/sentence structure.
Henkie
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Daniellynet wrote:

I tried to but i cant do it with my parents at home.. (embarassed...) :/
Why would you be embarrased about that ._.
nuudles
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I studied Japanese for 2 and a half years, then did a study abroad in Japan (Fukuoka and Tokyo) for 6 weeks, then spent 5 months working at a small company in Toyama.

My Japanese still sucks.
derfington
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おはようございまおうす。おげんきですか。
bagnz0r
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私は日本語を勉強したい :(
Yes, i'm trying to learn Japanese. Unfortunately here in my country it's impossible, unless you want to study Japanese or live in Warsaw.
Derekku
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私の名前はデレックチャンです。

I know very little xd
Ekaru
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Learned quite a bit in the past few months.

Also, Kanji can be a pain at times. Whose idea was it to give lots of them multiple readings? ><;
Derekku
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Ekaru wrote:

Learned quite a bit in the past few months.

Also, Kanji can be a pain at times. Whose idea was it to give lots of them multiple readings? ><;
Because it makes them "easier"

...

<_>
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Baah, I'd love to learn Japanese, just because the language is so interesting and different. See, the European languages like Italian, French, English, all derive from Latin, which makes them super similar. And somewhat boring.
Thing is, at the moment I'm learning Latin, English AND Italian at school, so if I tried to learn Japanese too at the moment.. well, I'd probably end up with a nervous breakdown. orz

tldr: No, I've got NO CLUE about Japanese, but I'd love to learn it.
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English was definitely influenced by Latin, but it's actually a Germanic language, not derived from Latin.
Larto
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Well, you get the idea, they're super similar anyway.
Echo
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Only certain words. In general, English is much more similar to German/Swedish/etc. than French/Italian/etc.

For example, the verb "to say":

French: dire
Italian: dire
Spanish: decir

English: say
German: sagen
Swedish: säga
Larto
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Well, my native language IS German. So the only way I can get a more interesting/diferent language than what I already know is to get Japanese or Chinese or Thai or other "weird letter" languages <3
bagnz0r
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Echo wrote:

Only certain words. In general, English is much more similar to German/Swedish/etc. than French/Italian/etc.

For example, the verb "to say":

French: dire
Italian: dire
Spanish: decir

English: say
German: sagen
Swedish: säga
Polish is also European language.
Polish: powiedzieć
LilyPichu
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Teaching myself Japanese. It reminds me of Korean, a lot. I don't find it too difficult...(so far :cry:).
YukuZetsuji
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I'll go to Japanase Language faculty in the university. :roll:
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Pokebis
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I'm learning it now, but being a native english speaker makes it a bit difficult because of the differences. Eastern and Western languages are incredibly different so it's difficult to learn one after knowing the other.
Azure_Kite
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I started learning it about a year ago. Since English is my native language I found it tricky at first, but once I learnt a bit, the rest started to be understood easier.

Now all I need to do is focus focus focus on learning more kanji... orz
Senbon
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I'm in my second year of Japanese class right now.

It's going quite smoothly, my teacher is great.

I actually really like kanji while everyone else whines, to be honest. That's +1 to "how much more peculiar Senbon can be."

Hey, anyone learned the Mori no Kuma song? Best song I've ever heard. :D
Echo
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先に「来年日本語を大学に勉強する」って言ったけど、今勉強しないかもしれないと思います。日本語なら、自分で習えますからね。
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Echo wrote:

先に「来年日本語を大学に勉強する」って言ったけど、今勉強しないかもしれないと思います。日本語なら、自分で習えますからね。
D:

Topic: I'm not really interested in learning Japanese. :P
Derekku
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I think I already posted here but oh well orz

I'm interested in learning </weeaboo> but it wouldn't be the best thing to do right now. I'm already heading towards a college minor in Spanish, so that's enough language for my brain for now...
MegaManEXE
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I'd love to learn any of the eastern Asian languages, but I have no idea how to get started learning. I don't really think Rosetta Stone or anything like that is the best way to go but I don't have any classes offered at my college in any of those languages.

:/
adam2046
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You could read a book.
Use the internet.
Ask someone who knows to get you started.
A combination of all three.
MegaManEXE
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adam2046 wrote:

You could read a book.
Use the internet.
Ask someone who knows to get you started.
A combination of all three.
Fuck books
Internet...I'm not really sure where to begin and I don't really trust a lot of the information that's out there quite honestly
And I don't know anybody who speaks them irl, only some online friends (I would imagine typing on MSN is not very effective as to learning how a language is spoken)
adam2046
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Just do some google searches, almost all of the information will be quite useful to you.
Show some initiative.
And read some books...seriously they're good for you.
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adam2046 wrote:

Just do some google searches, almost all of the information will be quite useful to you.
Show some initiative.
And read some books...seriously they're good for you.
What I meant is that I could go find any old site that tells me how to speak Japanese and it could tell me a whole bunch of incorrect shit and I'd believe it because I wouldn't know any better and have nobody to tell me if I'm doing it wrong
adam2046
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Just do it.
Echo
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http://guidetojapanese.org is great for a grammar-oriented approach. It's better than textbooks imo.
MegaManEXE
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Cool, thanks Echo
minyeob
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adam you're so mean:;
btw

I just learned that "kanji" is 漢字 wtf

感じ(kanji, feeling)
This kanji is well-known word in Korea orz
So I misunderstood kanji's meaning until this time......

I need to learn Japanese for my future. (To get ready for my 2nd foreign language class)
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漢字 is "hanja" in korean, right?
DustyZA
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Anime has made me interested in learning Japanese, but till I convince a friend to learn as well don`t think its gonna happen.
At least I know one word ,which you all can guess.
Ekaru
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banana/tomato, has to be one of those two!

BTW, year 2 has been going well so far. Kanji is fun, and figuring out the meanings of when various ones are put together is a way to pass the time (and occasionally go insane).
minyeob
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@Echo
Yes, we call 漢字 as "hanja"

Actually, there is no hanja in any kind of Korean sentences.
But most of Korean word (over 70%) can be changed into 漢字.

Not using hanja has a fatal weak point.
For example, "정의" can be changed to 定義(definition), 正義(justice), 正意(correct meaning) etc. etc.
We have to think about the context before translating a word.
Korean has a lot of homonyms >_>

Some kanjis have a multiple pronuncations to solve this problem.
But 1 hanja has only 1 pronuncation.

Korean / Japanese are come from Chinese.
The difference is, Korean is a new-language(it's an absolutely different language if Korean don't use hanja) and Japanese is a fixed-language(kanas are based on Chinese words)
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I'm learning it on my own way like i did with english.
I expect me to speak it somewhat flusy in around, 2 years.
alvisto
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MegaManEXE wrote:

I'd love to learn any of the eastern Asian languages, but I have no idea how to get started learning. I don't really think Rosetta Stone or anything like that is the best way to go but I don't have any classes offered at my college in any of those languages.

:/
I am currently learning right now, and you could use a game in DS called "My Japanese Coach" to learn it too. It's quite effective until now... xD

*still memorizing hiragana... O.O*
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mekadon95 wrote:

Okay I'm taking JPLT2.lol
Still encounter problems w/kanji, especially Lv.7+ kanji :o

BTW, I learn 日本語　BECAUSE OF TAIKO xD
Sitting JLPT1級 this year. お互いに頑張ろう！
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5ku112 wrote:

Can any of you recommend a good way to learn Japanese? I'm rather curious about learning this language.
For basic grammar, here's the link:http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar

@peppy: just wanna know, how hard is JPLT2?
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It's as hard as you make it for yourself. You can easily find past papers on the net so why not just try some if you haven't already?
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peppy wrote:

It's as hard as you make it for yourself. You can easily find past papers on the net so why not just try some if you haven't already?
Darn, just found them at the JPLT Website.lol
For 2006, it's okay...
*googling for papers*
xomstor
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As for me i learn Japanese using Nintendo ds's "My Japanese Coach"
Screenshots:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/950647-my-ja ... ach/images
Really hard to learn kanji...
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Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:07 pm (5 hours ago)
What
IppE
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Its a nifty thread so it ok to bump it imo.

I myself only know the basic anime japanese vocabulary :roll:
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IppE602 wrote:

I myself only know the basic anime japanese vocabulary :roll:
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Numbbi wrote:

IppE602 wrote:

I myself only know the basic anime japanese vocabulary :roll:
*cough*
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That reminds me, I recieved an A* grade at GCSE Japanese a few months ago. I should probably take JLPT N5 or something before I start to forget shit. I'm told GCSE is roughly the same level as N4, but I'm not entirely sure.
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Spend your money on the fees of N5, just to be in a safe side. Go for N4 if you want though
Pashune
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I tried a lot of those basic practice things online; they seemed okay but I'd lose interest way too easily, so I downloaded an audiobook for learning Japanese.. but it only got me so far, and by that, I only mean some very basic sentence structure and some vocabulary.

By now, I've already forgotten most of what I learned some months back. :(

I'm just gonna wait until I can either find some classes on it or just find a friend who knows it pretty well. The books and the audio aren't helping me.. :cry:

Unless you guys have some better ideas..
Firo Prochainezo
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When I was more younger I was really into Japanese and I learned a lot from friends, books and stuff like that (I never used anime for learning Japanese because it's stupid, really).
Now I'm not interested in Japanese anymore because I don't see any useful ways to use it in California.
Pokebis
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Pashune wrote:

Unless you guys have some better ideas..
Pirate shows and books that teach Japanese and then talk to people streaming on Nico Nico Douga over Skype.
OnosakiHito
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I learn japanese by myself and I'm on a lvl where I can talk with japanese people a little bit/well.
It's really easy for me to learn jpn because I'm from serbia and there we have maybe 20%~40% words/sentences who are exactly the same like in jpn. Example:
jpn: sou da ne or kakkoii (vocal exact the same like srb)
srb: sto da ne or kakoe (vocal exact the same like jpn)
So I don't have to learn so much. Well, but it's also because I have a huge interest to this language.

I was also a short time in a japanese course. That helped me a lot to improve my grammar.
And now I'm gonna go this year to Japan, so I can use it and learn more about the language.
Atm I know 150 Kanjis.

僕の日本語は今ノーグーです。でもいつか僕の日本語は良いです！ｗ
日本語を話すのは大好き～！

みんな・さん、またね！
Haneii
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I'm currently taking a beginner course in school right now....my midterm's this Friday :S


For those looking for learning material, here's a romaji version of the textbook I use for class (this one's an older edition though) http://fliiby.com/file/39936/x4jm86ofzz.html.
Daru
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smart.fm is great for learning your voacb.

Using anime to learn Japanese isn't necessarily bad, but it shouldn't be your own tool. Obviously, watching shows if any kind in a language that you are learning will help.

That said, I shudder to think of a conversation with a Japanese person who has learned about English and American culture entirely from episodes of Familiy Guy and Glee.
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Glee
oh god.
Pokebis
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Daru wrote:

That said, I shudder to think of a conversation with a Japanese person who has learned about English and American culture entirely from episodes of Familiy Guy and Glee.
Sad thing is, many Americans do talk like they talk in the shows. :-/
That being said, I've seen many people criticized by Japanese people for "talking like anime characters." The way they talk is generally quite different.
Sekuyi
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Does anyone here speak/learn Japanese?

ye, trying to learn it. but not really any progress since i started (like 1 month ago). the only thing i can do now is reading and writing katakana. learning some kanjis atm - so many of them, damn oO. ppl say hiragana is easy...but i can't memorize them somehow -.-'

as for talking, I understand a lot of phrases - english subs ftw ;)
Kaona
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I learn Japanese.
I have a Japanese Tutor :D
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Starrodkirby86 wrote:

Hahaha, thanks. XD

At least I don't say "Baka" to everybody or anybody, or commonly at all. That'll make me feel like a total weab00. I'll focus solely on Engrish thanks. And Thai. :P
fixed it for you
[Shalon]
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Joined April 2010
[Shalon]
I want to be a good japanese-speaker,

but now, I can't speak well, just little, haha.
Hakeru
2,360 posts
Joined May 2010
Hakeru

[Shalon] wrote:

I want to be a good japanese-speaker,

but now, I can't speak well, just little, haha.
me too ,
i learn japanese since 6 years old ..but uh.. not much ;__;

i must start learn japanese again from 0 ... haha ..
i can speak japanese , listening , and i can read the basic sentence like ..
おはようございます
こんばんわ
こんいちわ
ごめなさい
おたんじょうびおめでとう
いただきます
etc ...

watching anime , and listening some japanese music can improve your japanese language ..
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