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Does anyone here speak/learn Japanese?
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Well, you get the idea, they're super similar anyway.
Only certain words. In general, English is much more similar to German/Swedish/etc. than French/Italian/etc.
For example, the verb "to say":
French: dire
Italian: dire
Spanish: decir
English: say
German: sagen
Swedish: säga
For example, the verb "to say":
French: dire
Italian: dire
Spanish: decir
English: say
German: sagen
Swedish: säga
Well, my native language IS German. So the only way I can get a more interesting/diferent language than what I already know is to get Japanese or Chinese or Thai or other "weird letter" languages <3
bagnz0r
Teaching myself Japanese. It reminds me of Korean, a lot. I don't find it too difficult...(so far 
).
).I'll go to Japanase Language faculty in the university. 
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I'm learning it now, but being a native english speaker makes it a bit difficult because of the differences. Eastern and Western languages are incredibly different so it's difficult to learn one after knowing the other.
I started learning it about a year ago. Since English is my native language I found it tricky at first, but once I learnt a bit, the rest started to be understood easier.
Now all I need to do is focus focus focus on learning more kanji... orz
Now all I need to do is focus focus focus on learning more kanji... orz
I'm in my second year of Japanese class right now.
It's going quite smoothly, my teacher is great.
I actually really like kanji while everyone else whines, to be honest. That's +1 to "how much more peculiar Senbon can be."
Hey, anyone learned the Mori no Kuma song? Best song I've ever heard.
It's going quite smoothly, my teacher is great.
I actually really like kanji while everyone else whines, to be honest. That's +1 to "how much more peculiar Senbon can be."
Hey, anyone learned the Mori no Kuma song? Best song I've ever heard.
先に「来年日本語を大学に勉強する」って言ったけど、今勉強しないかもしれないと思います。日本語なら、自分で習えますからね。
D:Echo wrote:
先に「来年日本語を大学に勉強する」って言ったけど、今勉強しないかもしれないと思います。日本語なら、自分で習えますからね。
Topic: I'm not really interested in learning Japanese.
I think I already posted here but oh well orz
I'm interested in learning </weeaboo> but it wouldn't be the best thing to do right now. I'm already heading towards a college minor in Spanish, so that's enough language for my brain for now...
I'm interested in learning </weeaboo> but it wouldn't be the best thing to do right now. I'm already heading towards a college minor in Spanish, so that's enough language for my brain for now...
I'd love to learn any of the eastern Asian languages, but I have no idea how to get started learning. I don't really think Rosetta Stone or anything like that is the best way to go but I don't have any classes offered at my college in any of those languages.
:/
:/
You could read a book.
Use the internet.
Ask someone who knows to get you started.
A combination of all three.
Use the internet.
Ask someone who knows to get you started.
A combination of all three.
Fuck booksadam2046 wrote:
You could read a book.
Use the internet.
Ask someone who knows to get you started.
A combination of all three.
Internet...I'm not really sure where to begin and I don't really trust a lot of the information that's out there quite honestly
And I don't know anybody who speaks them irl, only some online friends (I would imagine typing on MSN is not very effective as to learning how a language is spoken)
Just do some google searches, almost all of the information will be quite useful to you.
Show some initiative.
And read some books...seriously they're good for you.
Show some initiative.
And read some books...seriously they're good for you.
What I meant is that I could go find any old site that tells me how to speak Japanese and it could tell me a whole bunch of incorrect shit and I'd believe it because I wouldn't know any better and have nobody to tell me if I'm doing it wrongadam2046 wrote:
Just do some google searches, almost all of the information will be quite useful to you.
Show some initiative.
And read some books...seriously they're good for you.
Just do it.
http://guidetojapanese.org is great for a grammar-oriented approach. It's better than textbooks imo.
Cool, thanks Echo
adam you're so mean:;
btw
I just learned that "kanji" is 漢字 wtf
感じ(kanji, feeling)
This kanji is well-known word in Korea orz
So I misunderstood kanji's meaning until this time......
I need to learn Japanese for my future. (To get ready for my 2nd foreign language class)
btw
I just learned that "kanji" is 漢字 wtf
感じ(kanji, feeling)
This kanji is well-known word in Korea orz
So I misunderstood kanji's meaning until this time......
I need to learn Japanese for my future. (To get ready for my 2nd foreign language class)
漢字 is "hanja" in korean, right?
Anime has made me interested in learning Japanese, but till I convince a friend to learn as well don`t think its gonna happen.
At least I know one word ,which you all can guess.
At least I know one word ,which you all can guess.
banana/tomato, has to be one of those two!
BTW, year 2 has been going well so far. Kanji is fun, and figuring out the meanings of when various ones are put together is a way to pass the time (and occasionally go insane).
BTW, year 2 has been going well so far. Kanji is fun, and figuring out the meanings of when various ones are put together is a way to pass the time (and occasionally go insane).
@Echo
Yes, we call 漢字 as "hanja"
Actually, there is no hanja in any kind of Korean sentences.
But most of Korean word (over 70%) can be changed into 漢字.
Not using hanja has a fatal weak point.
For example, "정의" can be changed to 定義(definition), 正義(justice), 正意(correct meaning) etc. etc.
We have to think about the context before translating a word.
Korean has a lot of homonyms >_>
Some kanjis have a multiple pronuncations to solve this problem.
But 1 hanja has only 1 pronuncation.
Korean / Japanese are come from Chinese.
The difference is, Korean is a new-language(it's an absolutely different language if Korean don't use hanja) and Japanese is a fixed-language(kanas are based on Chinese words)
Yes, we call 漢字 as "hanja"
Actually, there is no hanja in any kind of Korean sentences.
But most of Korean word (over 70%) can be changed into 漢字.
Not using hanja has a fatal weak point.
For example, "정의" can be changed to 定義(definition), 正義(justice), 正意(correct meaning) etc. etc.
We have to think about the context before translating a word.
Korean has a lot of homonyms >_>
Some kanjis have a multiple pronuncations to solve this problem.
But 1 hanja has only 1 pronuncation.
Korean / Japanese are come from Chinese.
The difference is, Korean is a new-language(it's an absolutely different language if Korean don't use hanja) and Japanese is a fixed-language(kanas are based on Chinese words)
mekadon_old
I'm learning it on my own way like i did with english.
I expect me to speak it somewhat flusy in around, 2 years.
I expect me to speak it somewhat flusy in around, 2 years.
I am currently learning right now, and you could use a game in DS called "My Japanese Coach" to learn it too. It's quite effective until now... xDMegaManEXE wrote:
I'd love to learn any of the eastern Asian languages, but I have no idea how to get started learning. I don't really think Rosetta Stone or anything like that is the best way to go but I don't have any classes offered at my college in any of those languages.
:/
*still memorizing hiragana... O.O*
Topic Starter
Sitting JLPT1級 this year. お互いに頑張ろう！mekadon95 wrote:
Okay I'm taking JPLT2.lol
Still encounter problems w/kanji, especially Lv.7+ kanji
BTW, I learn 日本語 BECAUSE OF TAIKO xD
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mekadon_old
Topic Starter
It's as hard as you make it for yourself. You can easily find past papers on the net so why not just try some if you haven't already?
mekadon_old
As for me i learn Japanese using Nintendo ds's "My Japanese Coach"
Screenshots:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/950647-my-ja ... ach/images
Really hard to learn kanji...
Screenshots:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/950647-my-ja ... ach/images
Really hard to learn kanji...
mekadon_old
IppE
IppE602 wrote:
I myself only know the basic anime japanese vocabulary
*cough*Numbbi wrote:
IppE602 wrote:
I myself only know the basic anime japanese vocabulary
That reminds me, I recieved an A* grade at GCSE Japanese a few months ago. I should probably take JLPT N5 or something before I start to forget shit. I'm told GCSE is roughly the same level as N4, but I'm not entirely sure.
mekadon_old
I tried a lot of those basic practice things online; they seemed okay but I'd lose interest way too easily, so I downloaded an audiobook for learning Japanese.. but it only got me so far, and by that, I only mean some very basic sentence structure and some vocabulary.
By now, I've already forgotten most of what I learned some months back.
I'm just gonna wait until I can either find some classes on it or just find a friend who knows it pretty well. The books and the audio aren't helping me..
Unless you guys have some better ideas..
By now, I've already forgotten most of what I learned some months back.
I'm just gonna wait until I can either find some classes on it or just find a friend who knows it pretty well. The books and the audio aren't helping me..
Unless you guys have some better ideas..
When I was more younger I was really into Japanese and I learned a lot from friends, books and stuff like that (I never used anime for learning Japanese because it's stupid, really).
Now I'm not interested in Japanese anymore because I don't see any useful ways to use it in California.
Now I'm not interested in Japanese anymore because I don't see any useful ways to use it in California.
Pirate shows and books that teach Japanese and then talk to people streaming on Nico Nico Douga over Skype.Pashune wrote:
Unless you guys have some better ideas..
I learn japanese by myself and I'm on a lvl where I can talk with japanese people a little bit/well.
It's really easy for me to learn jpn because I'm from serbia and there we have maybe 20%~40% words/sentences who are exactly the same like in jpn. Example:
jpn: sou da ne or kakkoii (vocal exact the same like srb)
srb: sto da ne or kakoe (vocal exact the same like jpn)
So I don't have to learn so much. Well, but it's also because I have a huge interest to this language.
I was also a short time in a japanese course. That helped me a lot to improve my grammar.
And now I'm gonna go this year to Japan, so I can use it and learn more about the language.
Atm I know 150 Kanjis.
僕の日本語は今ノーグーです。でもいつか僕の日本語は良いです！ｗ
日本語を話すのは大好き～！
みんな・さん、またね！
It's really easy for me to learn jpn because I'm from serbia and there we have maybe 20%~40% words/sentences who are exactly the same like in jpn. Example:
jpn: sou da ne or kakkoii (vocal exact the same like srb)
srb: sto da ne or kakoe (vocal exact the same like jpn)
So I don't have to learn so much. Well, but it's also because I have a huge interest to this language.
I was also a short time in a japanese course. That helped me a lot to improve my grammar.
And now I'm gonna go this year to Japan, so I can use it and learn more about the language.
Atm I know 150 Kanjis.
僕の日本語は今ノーグーです。でもいつか僕の日本語は良いです！ｗ
日本語を話すのは大好き～！
みんな・さん、またね！
I'm currently taking a beginner course in school right now....my midterm's this Friday :S
For those looking for learning material, here's a romaji version of the textbook I use for class (this one's an older edition though) http://fliiby.com/file/39936/x4jm86ofzz.html.
For those looking for learning material, here's a romaji version of the textbook I use for class (this one's an older edition though) http://fliiby.com/file/39936/x4jm86ofzz.html.
smart.fm is great for learning your voacb.
Using anime to learn Japanese isn't necessarily bad, but it shouldn't be your own tool. Obviously, watching shows if any kind in a language that you are learning will help.
That said, I shudder to think of a conversation with a Japanese person who has learned about English and American culture entirely from episodes of Familiy Guy and Glee.
Using anime to learn Japanese isn't necessarily bad, but it shouldn't be your own tool. Obviously, watching shows if any kind in a language that you are learning will help.
That said, I shudder to think of a conversation with a Japanese person who has learned about English and American culture entirely from episodes of Familiy Guy and Glee.
Gleeoh god.
Sad thing is, many Americans do talk like they talk in the shows. :-/Daru wrote:
That said, I shudder to think of a conversation with a Japanese person who has learned about English and American culture entirely from episodes of Familiy Guy and Glee.
That being said, I've seen many people criticized by Japanese people for "talking like anime characters." The way they talk is generally quite different.
Does anyone here speak/learn Japanese?
ye, trying to learn it. but not really any progress since i started (like 1 month ago). the only thing i can do now is reading and writing katakana. learning some kanjis atm - so many of them, damn oO. ppl say hiragana is easy...but i can't memorize them somehow -.-'
as for talking, I understand a lot of phrases - english subs ftw
ye, trying to learn it. but not really any progress since i started (like 1 month ago). the only thing i can do now is reading and writing katakana. learning some kanjis atm - so many of them, damn oO. ppl say hiragana is easy...but i can't memorize them somehow -.-'
as for talking, I understand a lot of phrases - english subs ftw
fixed it for youStarrodkirby86 wrote:
Hahaha, thanks. XD
At least I don't say "Baka" to everybody or anybody, or commonly at all. That'll make me feel like a total weab00. I'll focus solely on Engrish thanks. And Thai.
I want to be a good japanese-speaker,
but now, I can't speak well, just little, haha.
but now, I can't speak well, just little, haha.
me too ,[Shalon] wrote:
I want to be a good japanese-speaker,
but now, I can't speak well, just little, haha.
i learn japanese since 6 years old ..but uh.. not much ;__;
i must start learn japanese again from 0 ... haha ..
i can speak japanese , listening , and i can read the basic sentence like ..
おはようございます
こんばんわ
こんいちわ
ごめなさい
おたんじょうびおめでとう
いただきます
etc ...
watching anime , and listening some japanese music can improve your japanese language ..
wow this topic still around here D:
I'm now preparing JLPT N2~
Listening is damn hard
I have listened Japanese music for 3-4 years
But real Japanese is so much different from music >_<
I'm now preparing JLPT N2~
Listening is damn hard
listening some japanese music can improve your japanese language ..And I strongly disagree with this
I have listened Japanese music for 3-4 years
But real Japanese is so much different from music >_<
I don't. Not at the moment, maybe in the future. Actually, that's quite likely.
ahahaha that's my method >_<;minyeob wrote:
wow this topic still around here D:
I'm now preparing JLPT N2~
Listening is damn hardlistening some japanese music can improve your japanese language ..And I strongly disagree with this
I have listened Japanese music for 3-4 years
But real Japanese is so much different from music >_<
And how fluent are you? I think listening to Japanese songs is a terrible way to learn the language as the syllables are generally stressed a lot differently than actual speech. Everyone who says they learn out of music either is already fluent to an extent, is talking out of their ass and likely doesn't understand a bit of the language, or is going to learn the language incorrectly.Hakeru Prismriver wrote:
ahahaha that's my method >_<;
That being said, there are some learning-aid type music that helps reinforce certain concepts in your heard, but normal Jpop and crap certainly won't do that.
chinese is god tier!!1
actually i am interested in learning japanese, but I don't get the chance. no teachers around and i don't like learning all by myself via internet and stuff...
actually i am interested in learning japanese, but I don't get the chance. no teachers around and i don't like learning all by myself via internet and stuff...
just started learning a few words..and probably creating some incomplete sentence.. quite interesting though the language..
right here, I can speak basic conversational Japanese... as well as still learning
My minor is Japanese XD
dozo yoroshiku
My minor is Japanese XD
dozo yoroshiku
doesnt matter if anyone complains about necroing, because i am only REFRESHING this topic...
I am learning japanese and I really want to speak it somtetime really 1337...
the beginning was that I watched some animes in japanese language and it sounded very nice so I began leanring it, was quite some years ago...
I am learning japanese and I really want to speak it somtetime really 1337...
the beginning was that I watched some animes in japanese language and it sounded very nice so I began leanring it, was quite some years ago...
I've been studying japanese as a standalone course at a univ for a while, my pronunciation is quite good but my vocabulary is rather thin.
I've been studying Japanese for about a year now.
(About a half year of self-study and half year of classes with self-study)
I've spoken with some native speakers, and my Japanese is described as "Not much of an accent, grammatically correct, but weird sounding".
My vocab is rather bad (about 700 words/phrases) so I have to kinda dance around how to say certain things.
(About a half year of self-study and half year of classes with self-study)
I've spoken with some native speakers, and my Japanese is described as "Not much of an accent, grammatically correct, but weird sounding".
My vocab is rather bad (about 700 words/phrases) so I have to kinda dance around how to say certain things.
I've been watching anime forever, but I only recently started learning Japanese. It is soooo much more fun than spanish, because I actually have interest in it. (no offense, of course!~)
Spanish is a pointless language anyhow, if you only have the three generic choices of german, spanish or french, then german will be by far the most beneficial.
MUCH OFFENSE INTENDED
SICK BURN
MUCH OFFENSE INTENDED
SICK BURN
That hurts my feelings.
Why did I choose french I don't understand anything and never will + I don't even want to understand it.
I don't understand anything and never will + I don't even want to understand it.*dancing on the floor*failboat wrote:
...german will be by far the most beneficial.
I failed in France. ;w;
I won in Japanese.
not in th U.S. at allfailboat wrote:
Spanish is a pointless language anyhow, if you only have the three generic choices of german, spanish or french, then german will be by far the most beneficial.
MUCH OFFENSE INTENDED
SICK BURN
Open the door, get on the floor! Everybody walk the dinosaur.OzzyOzrock wrote:
not in th U.S. at all
Huh? Me? I'm studying it
I go to a university to assist a course once a week.
It's my second year and I'm doing fine ^^
I'm learning the conjugations at the moment but I can make some sentences.
I can use adjectives and I'm finally learning how to speak it informally.
But I need more vocabulary and kanji, so I will take care of that.
I go to a university to assist a course once a week.
It's my second year and I'm doing fine ^^
I'm learning the conjugations at the moment but I can make some sentences.
I can use adjectives and I'm finally learning how to speak it informally.
But I need more vocabulary and kanji, so I will take care of that.
It might be the way you say it. I'm apparently usually too formal when I talk in other languages, but that's probably because I don't know many informal ways of saying things and I can't tell what's going to be broken or not.Daru wrote:
I've spoken with some native speakers, and my Japanese is described as "Not much of an accent, grammatically correct, but weird sounding".
That being said, I may speak too formally in English as well, but I try not too.
nic3, I have to say, but I think that it makes rather fun learning it youself (like I do), coz you are not tied to times or teachers, and I like this way really
doing it by yourself and actually getting the same result from studying it properly at a decent course would take an incredible amount of self discipline and effortMy1 wrote:
nic3, I have to say, but I think that it makes rather fun learning it youself (like I do), coz you are not tied to times or teachers, and I like this way really
not to mention how you barely have anyone to correct your mistakes
Probably about 9 months now, both official classes and self study. I'm terrible at writing and speaking off the top of my head but I was always good with grammar. It's the same for German.
I like it, it's fun.
I like it, it's fun.
Well, it was pointed out that I used words in a weird way or something like that. Like, I would say, "I will wait inside the bus stop," rather than, "I'll wait at the bus stop," or something like, "I arrived at class" rather than, "I got to class,", because I didn't know the word "got". I'm sure what you're saying was a part of it, but I think the main thing wrong was my word choice rather than politeness.Pokebis wrote:
It might be the way you say it. I'm apparently usually too formal when I talk in other languages, but that's probably because I don't know many informal ways of saying things and I can't tell what's going to be broken or not.
That being said, I may speak too formally in English as well, but I try not too.
わたし は 日本語 を すこし わかる こと が できます
Did I made that sentence right? ^^;
Did I made that sentence right? ^^;
mochiron, ii desu yo.
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sorry but my computer is still incapable of typing kana...
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sorry but my computer is still incapable of typing kana...
Thank you!My1 wrote:
mochiron, ii desu yo.
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sorry but my computer is still incapable of typing kana...
Same here, I used a site in order to type that sentence OTL
http://www.wandel.person.dk/japanese.htmlMy1 wrote:
onegai URL wo ore ni tsutaetekudasai!
I use this one pretty often.
But I know there is another... I'm going to find it.
EDIT: Oh! I found it!
http://gate2home.com/Japanese-Keyboard
I know!My1 wrote:
すごい!
even if this search-and-click takes a while...
もし漢字を使えばスペースが必要じゃありませんよ。Micaela Mousiki wrote:
わたし は 日本語 を すこし わかる こと が できます
Did I made that sentence right? ^^;
kana de kakushite kudasai, takusan no kanji wo wakaranai desu yo...
Daru wrote:
もし漢字を使えばスペースが必要じゃありませんよ。Micaela Mousiki wrote:
わたし は 日本語 を すこし わかる こと が できます
Did I made that sentence right? ^^;
Hmmm... I'm not good reading kanji ^^;
But reading the bits of the sentence, It has to do with the space, right?
that is something OI got too, maybe he/she wants to say that in oroginal japanese spaces arent used or something like that.
but for unsertanding I still use them...
but for unsertanding I still use them...
"If you're using kanji, then you don't have to put spaces in."Micaela Mousiki wrote:
Hmmm... I'm not good reading kanji ^^;
But reading the bits of the sentence, It has to do with the space, right?
lit. "If (you) use kanji, then spaces are not required"
Of course, as with my previous statement, I'm not too confident in my word choice here, so it may sound weird to a native speaker.
Japanese is written with no spaces, but they're usually put in to make it easier for beginners who don't know kanji and read sentences with only hiragana/katakana, or for signs or messages written entirely in kana.
Ah! I see ^^Daru wrote:
"If you're using kanji, then you don't have to put spaces in."Micaela Mousiki wrote:
Hmmm... I'm not good reading kanji ^^;
But reading the bits of the sentence, It has to do with the space, right?
lit. "If (you) use kanji, then spaces are not required"
Of course, as with my previous statement, I'm not too confident in my word choice here, so it may sound weird to a native speaker.
Japanese is written with no spaces, but they're usually put in to make it easier for beginners who don't know kanji and read sentences with only hiragana/katakana, or for signs or messages written entirely in kana.
Thank you, I didn't know about that. Next time will write with no spaces, then.
as you see, when you wont use kanji, then you can (and if you ask me you should) use spaces coz when you are no natve speaker, it is xTremely hard to figure out where one word ends and where the other begins.Micaela Mousiki wrote:
Ah! I see ^^Daru wrote:
they're usually put in to make it easier for beginners who don't know kanji and read sentences with only hiragana/katakana, or for signs or messages written entirely in kana.
Thank you, I didn't know about that. Next time will write with no spaces, then.
I know about and still using spaces, coz it is easier to read...
Yeah, I usually use kanji in "watashi" or the days of the week, numbers and some other simple things like tree, river, forest, etc.My1 wrote:
as you see, when you wont use kanji, then you can (and if you ask me you should) use spaces coz when you are no natve speaker, it is xTremely hard to figure out where one word ends and where the other begins.
I know about and still using spaces, coz it is easier to read...
And I normally use those in a sentence, so yeah ^^
I wonder how do I say " I wish *Insert noun here* " ?
not sure but you maybe can go around it with the noun "wish"=negai
I learn by myself, I know higarana and katakana and also all kanji from JLPT 4 to JLPT2. At the moment trying to read all JLPT1's kanji.
I'm such a weeaboo
EDIT: I mean JLPT
I'm such a weeaboo
EDIT: I mean JLPT
You would generally use the form:Micaela Mousiki wrote:
Yeah, I usually use kanji in "watashi" or the days of the week, numbers and some other simple things like tree, river, forest, etc.
And I normally use those in a sentence, so yeah ^^
I wonder how do I say " I wish *Insert noun here* " ?
[noun]が欲しい。
lit. want [noun].
「欲しい」is an i-adjective that modifies the noun, meaning "want". However, it's not used as a verb like in English, but as an adjective, so the actual usage is different, and it conjugates as an i-adjective.
You can also use the 「たい」ending for the stem of verbs to communicate desire to do that verb. For example, 「昼ごはんを食べたい」, where I used the 「たい」ending attached to the stem of 「食べる」 to say "I want to eat breakfast" rather than "I eat breakfast". This ending also conjugates.
OK! Thank you very much!Daru wrote:
You would generally use the form:
[noun]が欲しい。
lit. want [noun].
「欲しい」is an i-adjective that modifies the noun, meaning "want". However, it's not used as a verb like in English, but as an adjective, so the actual usage is different, and it conjugates as an i-adjective.
You can also use the 「たい」ending for the stem of verbs to communicate desire to do that verb. For example, 「昼ごはんを食べたい」, where I used the 「たい」ending attached to the stem of 「食べる」 to say "I want to eat breakfast" rather than "I eat breakfast". This ending also conjugates.