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how come ledzur did Super Mario Bros.(TECHNO remix) (easy), catch the beat mode with hardrock, double time , hidden and flashlight if u cant see at all? explain that to me -.- . smells to cheat* cough* extract.osu cough* i wont explain the extract stuff but if some of u played audi and changed some .acv files u know.
tell me if im wrong -.- but i see it as cheat, maybe im a noob but explain me how can u see with hidden and flashlight-
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High scores #1 (eyup), #2 (Lumino), and #5 (Extor) of Phantasma - Fall Memories look too high without mods. Only one spinner; shouldn't make that big of a difference.
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High scores #1 (SkyStriker), #2 (xerxes_oli), #3 (Skits), and #4 (Larto) of Rabbit Joint - Legend of Zelda look pretty high. #2 may be ligit, though -- I'll look into it a bit. #33 (Kyuuri) looks somewhat suspicious, too.
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Barusa of Mikosu [TAG4]- http://osu.ppy.sh/b/24722
#1 by UnixUbuntu- http://osu.ppy.sh/u/92372

His play history as a whole looks rather suspicious, as well as the replay of Barusa of Mikosu #1.

#Osu wrote:

16:41 <Daru> : Does this look suspicious to anyone else? http://osu.ppy.sh/u/92372
16:41 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : eh, I don't want to be a jerk
16:41 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : but that does seem really odd
16:41 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : checking replay
16:41 <Daru> : Took 6 tries as well. :/
16:42 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : bit high score too lol
16:43 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : the cursor jumps on sliders
16:43 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : like from start to end
16:43 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : Daru did you check the replay?
16:43 <Daru> : Yeah... seems rather odd.
16:43 <The_Priest_In_Yellow|irc> : those jumps on sliders look really odd tbh
16:44 <Daru> : ^ Was what I was thinking
16:44 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : rythm is kind of odd though
16:44 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : look at the long sliders though
16:45 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : it looks interesting
16:45 <Daru> : The end as well...
16:45 <Daru> : he nearly FC'ed that last bit.
16:45 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : yeah the spinner looks really odd
16:45 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : cursor jumps everywhere
16:45 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : uh, I might be overstepping my bounds. But I think this needs to be checked
16:46 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : neither am I, suggest you let someone badass look at it. Then take it to peppy...
16:48 <CheeseWarlock> : It's definitely suspicious, Priest.
16:48 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : I thought so Cheese
16:48 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : you notice the spinners in the end?
16:48 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : that should be proof if anything imho
16:50 <CheeseWarlock> : The spinners in the end, the perfectly linear movement in the beginning...
16:51 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : and the jumps during sliders
16:51 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : from start to endpoint if you noticed it
16:51 <CheeseWarlock> : And IMMEDIATE jumps
16:51 <The_Priest_In_Yellow> : so I can't really say... but I personally don't like the looks of it
And from there CheeseWarlock told us to post.
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His cursor acts exactly like auto on jumps..

I say hax.
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mierdur wrote:

how come ledzur did Super Mario Bros.(TECHNO remix) (easy), catch the beat mode with hardrock, double time , hidden and flashlight if u cant see at all? explain that to me -.- . smells to cheat* cough* extract.osu cough* i wont explain the extract stuff but if some of u played audi and changed some .acv files u know.
tell me if im wrong -.- but i see it as cheat, maybe im a noob but explain me how can u see with hidden and flashlight-
memorize the song.

Super Mario Bros.(TECHNO remix) (easy) is very easy and very short. If someone put in the effort it wouldn't be that hard to remember everything and on top of that Ledzur is very good at CTB.

Edit:Hell I just did it myself in like two tries. Without hardrock and double time mind you, but its still very possible with them on, just takes a little more skill and effort.
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@happy30: dirty hacks. He will be purged before the night is over - I'm just collecting info at the moment.
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running_lemon wrote:

mierdur wrote:

how come ledzur did Super Mario Bros.(TECHNO remix) (easy), catch the beat mode with hardrock, double time , hidden and flashlight if u cant see at all? explain that to me -.- . smells to cheat* cough* extract.osu cough* i wont explain the extract stuff but if some of u played audi and changed some .acv files u know.
tell me if im wrong -.- but i see it as cheat, maybe im a noob but explain me how can u see with hidden and flashlight-
memorize the song.

Super Mario Bros.(TECHNO remix) (easy) is very easy and very short. If someone put in the effort it wouldn't be that hard to remember everything and on top of that Ledzur is very good at CTB.

Edit:Hell I just did it myself in like two tries. Without hardrock and double time mind you, but its still very possible with them on, just takes a little more skill and effort.
Thx lemon, for that 100% true ^^

His just a random noob, before the 100 combo at ctb u can c perfectly the fruits even with hidden, so, its a 61 combo that difficult, and i just did it to pwn a guy called Hanyou bcuz he pissed me off 1 day ^^.

HF :)

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Please guys, don't accuse people of cheating in this thread. Just bring up scores that you don't think look correct and leave the rest to us. Accusing people will get you nowhere..
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Eddycted wrote:

This seems off by about 30k.



Lol xD I never actually noticed that, I almost never watch my own replays unless the map is epic.
But I think it's because of an update, at the time I achieved that, spinners were worth more... I think xD
(my first time on this part of the forum btw o.o)
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Maybe I'll add some screens this time for this score:





I'm pretty new to osu! and it might just be me but it looks like to me ShaggoN deserves that #1 ._.

Thanks for looking.
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That one.
(This is my first time posting on this site, I'm hoping the attachment works so I don't need to upload to an image hosting site)
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Anenew feat. Saori Sakura - True My Heart [Normal]:


What seems so wrong? It's the max combo. The score can't even get that high...(Or the combo rather), so it seemed all too strange.

Look here even:

Notice the Max combo there.

:o

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Top three scores of Marta - The SMRPG Song are much too high.
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Access - Doubt & Trust #1

It seems perfect...

...but on replay:

Here we see a 50 (and combo lose)


And here is in the song, it is a 600k point end, not a 900k one
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Check out the first two replays.
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#1 replay, Taiko, Hito's Ready Steady Go
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Almost everyone who plays Taiko uses a Macro. I've seen D's above S's.
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Azu wrote:

Almost everyone who plays Taiko uses a Macro. I've seen D's above S's.
Isn't there a notice every time you play Taiko which says the score formula is under development? These high D's could have used an older formula, or a newer one (test build).
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strager wrote:

These high D's could have used an older formula, or a newer one (test build).
The old formula scores were all wiped before the newer scoring formula came into effect

Azu wrote:

Almost everyone who plays Taiko uses a Macro. I've seen D's above S's.
Please don't make assumptions like that, it just seems that way because macro'd scores get more points, and are therefore shown in the scoreboard more often
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Why would you macro if you can't even FC? You'd get busted so easily.
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Tsukiyo wo Kakusanai Teido whatever

<Taiko> [Hard] #6 - Marisa-Alice
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cheat score or bug
man i can't stand things like this...

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107 ... hot063.png
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107 ... hot064.png
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n107 ... hot065.png
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100%+ acc?

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Atmey wrote:

100%+ acc?
It's a workaround for another bug. Just ignore it for now.

I may be wrong. =X
wohdin
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Taiko mode...

http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=19402&m=1
Ahem.

Replay is rather hilarious to watch tho.
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do you think something's wrong with the replay? or 100% Accuracy cheat?

RANK #1
Result
The part before the player misses
The part after the player misses
After the song he is rank 21 or less

The replay says it's not a FC song but nevertheless he used hard rock.
The result says the player FCed the song although he got a miss on that song.
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osuplayer111 wrote:

Flyin' to your soul

Difficulty : FREEZE!!!

Look replay #1.

Aimbot hacking !
If you want more evidence on this one, check out Canseidon's DT replay on Dejavu [Ultimate]
Andrea
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Do it all night

Difficulty : Normal

Look replay #1.

Another aimbot hacking!!!

Kiss no yukue (TV Size) Mapped by me

Difficulty : Normal

Look replay #1.

The same player, ever aimbot hacking!!!
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osuplayer111 wrote:

Do it all night

Difficulty : Normal

Look replay #1.

Another aimbot hacking!!!

Kiss no yukue (TV Size) Mapped by me

Difficulty : Normal

Look replay #1.

The same player, ever aimbot hacking!!!

..... :?

Edit: watch the replay of RevenG - Sakura [Insane]
he made #1 again but i dont think he is a cheater. just very excellent player 0.0
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His movements are too perfect, always straight to the next beat...
and the replay on DejaVu is just impossible plus e FC'd it...
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mtmcl wrote:

If you want more evidence on this one, check out Canseidon's DT replay on Dejavu [Ultimate]
I looked at the replay of Deja Vu. It seems as if he played the match without DT then replayed it with a bot at twice the speed. That's probably how he got 477 spins and had some human-looking movements in places (see small repeating sliders).

osuplayer111 wrote:

Flyin' to your soul

Difficulty : FREEZE!!!

Look replay #1.

Aimbot hacking !
Looking at the replay to Flyin' To Your Soul seems to result in a similar conclusion: he played with Half-Time then replayed at twice the speed to play normal time. Again, spinners are pretty fast (except the end, where he spun less than 200 on half-time =S).

Hanyuu wrote:

watch the replay of RevenG - Sakura [Insane]
he made #1 again but i dont think he is a cheater. just very excellent player 0.0
Probably the same Half-Time trick.

osuplayer111 wrote:

Do it all night

Difficulty : Normal

Look replay #1.

Another aimbot hacking!!!
Doesn't look like it to me.
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Canseidon on Twister (Subarashiki Mix)



Hmm yea.. sure :U
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I'm aware this has been submitted already 3 times but it still isn't fixed so...

Rabbit Joint - Legend of Zelda [Easy]
#1 through 5, none of their replays match up with their scores.

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Skya wrote:

I'm aware this has been submitted already 3 times but it still isn't fixed so...
This is why we need someone deleting the scores already ;/
Double-reporting doesn't help much.
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Well I noticed it a long time ago since it was one of the first songs I downloaded and since it's still around I thought a reminder would be a good thing. Been busy much peppy? :roll:
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I don't buy 3 flashlight S's on Border of Death. I wish I had some solid information to back it up, other than the map is too fucking hard to FL (4:34 long, 931 max combo.

Seriously, its hard enough to no-mod S. FL is overkill.
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Rolled, look on justice to believe too... 910 combos XD
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osuplayer111 wrote:

Rolled, look on justice to believe too... 910 combos XD
The notes are very close there. Border of Death has some jumps and things which could easily be missed. It also has more sliders which you can't read in FL.
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Yeah, you have right, but is ever harder to remember where is a slider or a circle...
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Isn't he Supposed to got no miss?



And now Why the result says darri doesn't get any miss?


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The replay is normal. I don't see nothing wrong with it...
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Sakura Kiss [Normal] - pentium586 #2 <Taiko>
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Map: Amane - Boozehound [Kiou2's Normal] http://osu.ppy.sh/b/27812
Player: clong
His score 3,653,592 (Second place)
Mod: Hidden ann Hardrock [My mod - Flashlight]
Acc: 99.33% [My acc - 100%]
Spinners:
1: -
2: -
3: -
4: 1000
5: -
6: 1000
7: -
8: -
9: 6000

My spinner:
1: 1000
2: 1000
3: 1000
4: 1000
5: 1000
6: -
7: -
8: -
9: 7000

Again. His score 3,653,592, but my score 3,653,702.
I don't think his cheater, but... Why?
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I think because Hidden + Hardrock multiplier is a bit higher than 1.12 (1.06*1.06 = 1.1236).
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Rolled wrote:

I don't buy 3 flashlight S's on Border of Death. I wish I had some solid information to back it up, other than the map is too fucking hard to FL (4:34 long, 931 max combo.

Seriously, its hard enough to no-mod S. FL is overkill.
Now there's a Flashlight + Hidden S. Must've played the song a ridiculous amount of times if it's legit.

Edit: and two Flashlight + Hidden SSs on Boulevard of Broken Dreams within 24 hours? Maybe it's not as hard as I thought...
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Rolled wrote:

I don't buy 3 flashlight S's on Border of Death. I wish I had some solid information to back it up, other than the map is too fucking hard to FL (4:34 long, 931 max combo.

Seriously, its hard enough to no-mod S. FL is overkill.
Anyone should be able to S any song on FL if they can do it without FL. FL doesn't increase the difficulty like Hardrock or DT. All it requires is a good memory and a lot of plays. Some players will memorize a map faster than others, but if you play something enough, you'll be able to FL it.
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http://osu.ppy.sh/s/57

fruit's score.
Old score? I think.
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LuigiHann wrote:

Miek wrote:

This is about BanYa - Csikos Post on hardest difficulty, on Catch the Beat.
I looked through some of the replays there that had rank SS. 100,00%. At the replays, they miss a lot of fruits in the beginning of the song, and end up with around 70 - 80%, yet on the record it still says SS and 100,00%
I, however, did actually clear the whole song with 100,00%, which appearently noone else has. I ended up on 11th place.
It's also pretty funny that #1 - #7 all have rank SS and 100,00%, yet they don't have the same combo.

Is this just some sort of bug, or are they cheating?
The bits at the beginning are "spinners" in normal osu mode, which translates to "fruit spam" in CtB mode. you don't need to catch all the fruits to clear it or get 100%, they're just bonus. If you watch your own replay, you didn't catch them all either.

Not sure how first place guy has a higher combo, but I'd guess it has to do with his score being from 2008. I'll look into it

Edit: Man, that first place score is really messed up: http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15228&m=2

No, no, I know about spinners. It's right after the spinners, it's this long slider that goes back and forward, where everyone just grabs the fruits on the right side.
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Quite a few Catch the Beat replays, especially older ones, show incorrect plays (including my own). Csisko's Post and Oblivion have bugged/outdated scores up the top though, max combos that aren't possible.
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The current #2Marisa score is kind of... bugged, when the new build was released... I dunno why it happened, but the case then seems that the replay shows a miss in between the slider spams, when in the actual play it wasn't...

...how do I know this? Duh, that score is mine. I could swear I did NOT miss in that slider spam, yet the replay says I did! What is this?! Even the replay I stored in the local scoreboard also shows that I missed somewhere...?!

So the score looks right, but the replay doesn't! O_O
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Ending of Daru's replay:



Daru on scoreboard:



wat

Yeah I changed the BG of this map because the notes were hard to read.

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Zekira wrote:

The current #2Marisa score is kind of... bugged, when the new build was released... I dunno why it happened, but the case then seems that the replay shows a miss in between the slider spams, when in the actual play it wasn't...

...how do I know this? Duh, that score is mine. I could swear I did NOT miss in that slider spam, yet the replay says I did! What is this?! Even the replay I stored in the local scoreboard also shows that I missed somewhere...?!

So the score looks right, but the replay doesn't! O_O
Oh, i noticed the same thing in a replay of mine, in this song: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5672
I broke the combo only at the end, but the replay shows a miss in a slider spam that didn't show before (so the same case as your marisa's replay).
I remember since i watched it sometimes, so i think it's a little bug in the new build.
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I don't understand how the #1 score on Devil's Daughter [Easy] (http://osu.ppy.sh/b/19639) can be achieved. It has no mods (the ones below have hard mode etc.) and doesn't get SS rank yet somehow manages to get 30k ahead of the #2 score. Am I missing something?
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Card N'FoRcE wrote:

Zekira wrote:

The current #2Marisa score is kind of... bugged, when the new build was released... I dunno why it happened, but the case then seems that the replay shows a miss in between the slider spams, when in the actual play it wasn't...

...how do I know this? Duh, that score is mine. I could swear I did NOT miss in that slider spam, yet the replay says I did! What is this?! Even the replay I stored in the local scoreboard also shows that I missed somewhere...?!

So the score looks right, but the replay doesn't! O_O
Oh, i noticed the same thing in a replay of mine, in this song: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/5672
I broke the combo only at the end, but the replay shows a miss in a slider spam that didn't show before (so the same case as your marisa's replay).
I remember since i watched it sometimes, so i think it's a little bug in the new build.
This also occurs on White Wolf's Kanbu replay.
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For Cruel Angel's Thesis easy mode Spirus' (#3 in ranking) score just doesn't seem to add up at all he only has hard rock, hidden, and double time on and yet he got around 115k+. I would understand if his spins were godly like Tormenter's but his spins were a 5k and a 2k and he had 2 100s if I remember correctly and yet his score is above most people who SSed and had much higher scoring mods and spins than him.

http://osu.ppy.sh/?p=beatmap&b=12787
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http://osu.ppy.sh/b/30284

Uhhh wat
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Derekku Chan wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/30284

Uhhh wat
Ha, it's that guy peppy was calling out on #osu! :P
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Alex0686 wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/30284

Uhhh wat
Ha, it's that guy peppy was calling out on #osu! :P
Calling out? lol For what?
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Derekku Chan wrote:

Alex0686 wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/30284

Uhhh wat
Ha, it's that guy peppy was calling out on #osu! :P
Calling out? lol For what?
For cheating of course! :P And people just started speccing him. :D peppy even did that user specific announcement on him.
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ToRMeNToR_84 wrote:

On Gojou Kai - Touhou Youkai Komachi [Normal] I don't believe the spinners in the #1 players replay. They seem completely fake to me. Not even a tablet player can spin that precisely and fast. The #2 player seems to have a more believable score.
The replay had 8000 bonus on the first spinner and 12000 on the second (with hard rock). I just tried it myself with with hard rock and managed 6000 on the first (probably could have been higher, didn't expect the spinner) and 11000 on the second one with a mouse. Definitely possible.

As for strange scores, on http://osu.ppy.sh/b/16621 everyone has a max combo of 399, but the max combo currently possible is 347 (or maybe 348).
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The replay had 8000 bonus on the first spinner and 12000 on the second (with hard rock). I just tried it myself with with hard rock and managed 6000 on the first (probably could have been higher, didn't expect the spinner) and 11000 on the second one with a mouse. Definitely possible.

I know that the score is 'Possible' but if you actually take a look at the replay. You can clearly see that the technique used to spin is totally Non-Human. Even though the score is plausible, The method used is unfair and untrue.

EDIT: I just took a look at it again and i'm 99.9% sure its not a hand made spin. Look at how the cursor reacts in the center of the spinner. It makes a very fast Triangular pattern which to me seems automated.
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Zekira
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Joined September 2008
Zekira
Well, I fixed up my score on Marisa simply by overwriting it with a higher score, so I don't have that problem anymore, at least... not for now.
Marseille
50 posts
Joined September 2008
Marseille
Hi there,

I have never been active on the forums and as such I may be sort of a "noob" but oh well.

I have been playing the Taiko mod for Osu! and I don't understand how the scoring actually works. I say this because I constantly get higher percentages and such but I end up have a lower ranking on most songs. This unfortunately leaves me confused.

For example, I'm playing the Osu! beatmap for "Welcome to the N.H.K (Shishido Rumi) - Fushigi Purupuru Pururin Rin!" on the Puru~ difficulty on the Taiko mode. I just recently received 100% accuracy on this song but I find I am only ranked 12th with 122,982 points. While, the first place person, Seshiri, has an accuracy of 86.67% and a score of 190,068 points. No mods of any kind have been used, I checked. This is rather confusing.

Another thing I don't understand is the replays you can watch from other ranking people. On the same song, same difficulty, same everything, I watch Seshiri's 1st place replay of ""Welcome to the N.H.K (Shishido Rumi) - Fushigi Purupuru Pururin Rin!". I watch until the end of the replay and right before the screen fades to the results screen his score is: ~100,200 points. But then at the results screen his score is magically 190,608 points. I really don't understand this.

I don't mind not having any sort of ranking, I would simply like to understand how the scoring works and what is at work here.
anonymous_old
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anonymous_old

Marseille wrote:

I have been playing the Taiko mod for Osu! and I don't understand how the scoring actually works. I say this because I constantly get higher percentages and such but I end up have a lower ranking on most songs. This unfortunately leaves me confused.

For example, I'm playing the Osu! beatmap for "Welcome to the N.H.K (Shishido Rumi) - Fushigi Purupuru Pururin Rin!" on the Puru~ difficulty on the Taiko mode. I just recently received 100% accuracy on this song but I find I am only ranked 12th with 122,982 points. While, the first place person, Seshiri, has an accuracy of 86.67% and a score of 190,068 points. No mods of any kind have been used, I checked. This is rather confusing.
See scoring in the FAQ.

Marseille wrote:

Another thing I don't understand is the replays you can watch from other ranking people. On the same song, same difficulty, same everything, I watch Seshiri's 1st place replay of ""Welcome to the N.H.K (Shishido Rumi) - Fushigi Purupuru Pururin Rin!". I watch until the end of the replay and right before the screen fades to the results screen his score is: ~100,200 points. But then at the results screen his score is magically 190,608 points. I really don't understand this.
This is a problem and should be reported in this thread (as you have done).
Marseille
50 posts
Joined September 2008
Marseille
If it is wrong and a problem with the game, then I have another problem to report.

On the taiko map for the beatmap "IIDX (DJ YOSHITAKA) - Bloody Tears(IIDX EDITION) on the Normal difficulty, the #1 ranked player, Arvoitusmies has an accuracy of 88.55% but a score of 615,060 when the next lowest score is 345,876 points.

I watched the replay and at the end of the replay before fading, his score is ~ 161,540 but when the results screen appears, his score is magically 615,060 points.
Intermezzo
osu! Alumni
101 posts
Joined July 2009
Intermezzo
While, the first place person, Seshiri, has an accuracy of 86.67% and a score of 190,068 points
This is an old replay from a time where the taiko drumrolls didn't have any restrictions yet.
That's why the scores were much higher and why you see malfunctioning replays.
All of these old scores will be reset when taiko is completely fixed.
In the meantime:

It's currently best not to post taiko-related scores on this topic until the scores are reset, unless you are really positive that the play was macro'd.
anonymous_old
0 posts
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anonymous_old
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Marseille
50 posts
Joined September 2008
Marseille
Right, Okay.

Thank you all for your informational help. You have cleared my confusion considerably.
Lybydose
osu! Alumni
2,024 posts
Joined January 2009
Lybydose
#1 score on this.

Hard rock on a song that already has a really high "overall difficulty" setting (so hard rock is setting it to the maximum) from a user that's only been registered for 20 days.

His stats/scores on maps other than this one are less than stellar.
Daru
osu!painter
866 posts
Joined August 2008
Daru
Speaking of which, how is cheaters going to be caught on the Taiko mode?

It seems to me like there will be no real telltale signs, unlike the osu! standard mode.
Yivo
2 posts
Joined July 2009
Yivo
OKay, i found this score... there is something wrong.

In "Sonic X Intro [Easy]" Catch the Beat is Ashchaos on the First place.

with a 106 Combo and there are 106 Fruits. HOW CAN IT BE? he fail a fruit!

Look the Replay! there is Something wrong!
Bayonetta_old
1 post
Joined July 2009
Bayonetta_old
Joint[normal] #32 sdww
Non-Human spin
minyeob
osu! Alumni
2,540 posts
Joined May 2008
minyeob
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/67

Ival's score looks strange.
Real1
968 posts
Joined September 2008
Real1

minyeob wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/67

Ival's score looks strange.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's because of the old scoring/spinner algorithm, right?
Derekku
COOL DUDE
7,270 posts
Joined March 2009
Derekku
I know this has probably been asked before, but is there any way to convert the old algorithm scores into the new algorithm? :/
mattyu007
osu! Alumni
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mattyu007
Probably not, the scores will most likely be simply removed.
rust45
1,085 posts
Joined May 2009
rust45
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
blade3285
16 posts
Joined January 2009
blade3285
#1 score for http://osu.ppy.sh/b/18170
The replay seems bad
What he said ↓
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Starrodkirby86
osu! Alumni
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Starrodkirby86
Hm...A bugged replay, perhaps?

HarZens is a very good player, so I wouldn't think of him as a cheater.
Inozuma
596 posts
Joined June 2008
Inozuma
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/3206

Benda_11's replay.
Yoshi348
113 posts
Joined June 2009
Yoshi348
A Complicated Song [Easy] has quite a few plays with a max combo of 257 instead of 255, and replaying the replays does indeed confirm they should get 255. Fruits mode is illuminating; while the max combo numbers are instead 255 and 253, you can see that the 255 have two large fruit drops (or slider ticks) that don't exist in the other ones. These only exist in the score readout, not in the actual replays. Perhaps this song got updated with a change when it wasn't supposed to or something?
Gilgamesh
14 posts
Joined October 2008
Gilgamesh
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/2664

Easy mode 1st place person.
I watched the replay, the person broke his/her combo once and also at the end it said 97000- something. No way it would show up as 190636
RogueHiyru
113 posts
Joined May 2008
RogueHiyru

sword414 wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/2664

Easy mode 1st place person.
I watched the replay, the person broke his/her combo once and also at the end it said 97000- something. No way it would show up as 190636
Following this, this person also has #1 place on "you are an idiot" [easy]
Lucidity
132 posts
Joined December 2008
Lucidity

sword414 wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/2664

Easy mode 1st place person.
I watched the replay, the person broke his/her combo once and also at the end it said 97000- something. No way it would show up as 190636
That score was set more than a year ago. When was the old spinner algorithm replaced? The spins could have counted more than it does on the replay. Also the combo was broke on a slider...I have a few replays where it shows that I break a combo on a slider, but when I played it originally the combo was never broke. Might be the same.

Speaking of Dodgy though...Look at the #2 on that difficulty. FML if that's a natural spin. Definitely using some program or macro or something to spin :/

Shame on you Hiroshi248.

Same thing here '-' http://osu.ppy.sh/b/32022
Yoshi348
113 posts
Joined June 2009
Yoshi348
Tsugaru Japan [Beginner] has a top score that beats any other by a ludicrous 52,000 points, and doesn't replay correctly, with the final spinner being failed. Was achieved 9/17/2008; is this that spinner algorithm thing I heard of?
mikhe
673 posts
Joined November 2008
mikhe
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=15228&m=2

In this map in CtB, the level "insane" have a error; the first have 685 combo SS and the second have 633 combo SS.... it's impossible; look please :D

Bye
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