This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010年5月20日 at 17:22:21

Artist: Lia
Title: Tori no Uta
Source: Air
Tags: alex0686 vikon breeze
BPM: 122.1
Filesize: 18102kb
Play Time: 03:01
Difficulties Available:

1. Alex's Insane (4.96 stars, 525 notes)
2. Breeze's Difficulty (4.78 stars, 415 notes)
3. Easy (1.45 stars, 142 notes)
4. Normal (3.39 stars, 233 notes)
5. Vikon's Hard (4.48 stars, 330 notes)

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta
Download: Lia - Tori no Uta (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Air OP,such a beautiful song.
effort making~

Feb 3 , 2010 added some new skins
Feb 12, 2010 added [Breeze's Difficulty]

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Love this song, but get caps right.

Lia - Tori no Uta

I think it was Tori no Uta though. And I'm not sure about the artist. I'm pretty sure it's Lia, but I see Lix on James' beatmap of the remix. Ask someone else, I can't find it on my anime music source.

I wanted to do this one, but I guess I was beat. Can I make a difficulty? I really want to make a storyboarded lyrics, just cause I find that fun.

Rounding the BPM is better, so you should change it to just 122. Only stuff like old music/musicals should have weird BPMs.

Star cause I love this song.

thanks you Alex0686 and hillman,I'm very grateful for your help. love this song too,but feeling too hard to make it well.I'm very happy you can make a difficulty and storyboarded lyrics.

PS:sorry to my bad english

Download: hit.rar

Artist:
Lia(大寫)

title:
Tori(大寫)

timing:
BPM,果沒特殊需要,最好是用整數(個人經驗)
offset 15569(記得resnap all)

間距的部分我覺得問題還蠻多的,請先參考↓第四點修改(省得我要打滿整個篇幅)
http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=5553

另外呢,怎麼看到count down是開啟的,測試卻沒有....,總之不要開count down~

谢谢你的建议，我会尽快修改好的。

玩了hard level
感覺上，很多地方，note所設的位置也快了。

是BPM設錯了?還是offset不準?
印象中，如果BPM和offset沒有設錯，主音的note都可以設在紅色 / 白色線上的

還有一個更顯眼的問題.
當有2個或4個音在同一個位置 要連按的時候
(例如 第二句 「僕たちは见送った」後 那2個深藍色的note)
...怎麼說呢，總是覺得有點奇怪
因為曲中沒有相配合的音在那些位置，所以很難觸摸。
或者把它們取消了？

完了第一段( 也就是「悔しくて指を离す」後)
感覺好多了，沒有甚麼大問題。

總而言之，這首歌你在design上設計得不錯的，繼續加油。
希望這些意見能幫到你~

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Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [edit Hard].osu

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the difficulty has been finished
if there are any problems , plz inform me to correct it ~
THX~

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's level].osu

這次玩了normal，主要都是覺得note位置上有少許偏差

於是對normal作了微調：
00:15 第一個note好像短了一點?
00:23,00:39 調整了note的位置和長度
00:52 ~ 2:19 向右移了一格 和note作了調整

你看看調整後，會不會好一點？

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Edit normal].osu

已采用你的建议，做的比我的好O(∩_∩)O哈！

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原來是122.09-__-!!!!
因為我也很少做map，如果重set BPM ，所有notes的位置是不是要人手重新移過？
如果不重整BPM，保留現在的BPM，map會有分別嗎？(因為已經重新設定offset及timing了，可以補償那0.09嗎？)


在發現這消息前，我把easy edit了
Easy主要的問題是 ，slider中間那些圈，不在主音上(最高白色和紅色的線上)
所以在00:53~2分鐘那一段， 這次我不只向右移一格了
我把offset 改至slider在主音上
(因為easy的slider最長，不調整的話 太顯眼-_-")

看看現在，重新調整後的4個level可不可以接受，如果不可以，再嘗試重整BPM?


Because 4 difficulties has been updated, ( actually i think they are quite good now , in my opinion only.)
plz help us to see if those 4 difficulties is fine, if there are still problems,may be... change the BPM after that?

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Edit easy].osu

原來是122.09-__-!!!!
因為我也很少做map，如果重set BPM ，所有notes的位置是不是要人手重新移過？
如果不重整BPM，保留現在的BPM，map會有分別嗎？(因為已經重新設定offset及timing了，可以補償那0.09嗎？)


在發現這消息前，我把easy edit了
Easy主要的問題是 ，slider中間那些圈，不在主音上(最高白色和紅色的線上)
所以在00:53~2分鐘那一段， 這次我不只向右移一格了
我把offset 改至slider在主音上
(因為easy的slider最長，不調整的話 太顯眼-_-")

看看現在，重新調整後的4個level可不可以接受，如果不可以，再嘗試重整BPM?


Because 4 difficulties has been updated, ( actually i think they are quite good now , in my opinion only.)
plz help us to see if those 4 difficulties is fine, if there are still problems,may be... change the BPM after that?

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Edit easy].osu

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在multi裏為4個map進行過測試，
以下為綜合玩家的意見，所作出的微調：


[Easy]
easy的問題在於......note所下的位置，有些是歌詞部份，有些是伴奏，有點教人難觸摸。
但是因為這不是重節奏的快歌....如果在[easy] 只用簡化了的歌詞，就會比easy級更easy了......

因此只作了以下修改：

02:48 開始的10個note，都編成為一組太長了，所以把10個分為了5組

[Normal]

個人和玩家也發現：
「Normal和hard那些短而不斷重覆的slider有點突兀和多餘。」

所以在
1:05:978 , 1:21:905 , 1:37:392
把不斷重覆的slider改為spinner會較好

1:04:687 , 00:56:450 notes的位置調整了(之前有一格偏差)

2:45:876 在尾段為notes重設平均的new combo (和easy相同問題，因為之前分得有點不平均)

2:57:125 為3個漸慢的音作了調整

Hard

hard的問題不大

00:14:831 , 00:50:425
和normal相同，把短而重覆的slider換作了spinner

02:46:183 和以上2個難度一樣，重設了new combo (因為方便玩tag的分配)

以下為上述3個level的edit版，再一次請你看看吧～

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Edit Easy].osu

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Edit hard].osu

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Edit normal].osu

已修改，辛苦你了。

Thanks Vikon.
plz help us to see if those 4 difficulties is fine, if there are still problems

測試的第二天：


1.修改了[Vikon's level]
01:12:187 slider changed
01:30:015 new combo
01:37:146 new combo
01:43:736 new combo
01:49:195 new combo

2. 因為意見指出.... 其實[Vikon level]是不算難的 (就如我的級數一樣~)
也就是這map欠一個屬於真正 insane 的級數
所以...現在我在嘗試新增一個更難的級數，看看效果如何.....

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's level].osu

你确定要替换以前那难度吗？

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马上跟新，问题是两个I难度有很多地方都一样啊·这样不太好

嗯..... 所以我盡量把它改頭換面
BPM，slider速度，note密度，方向形狀全都改了

現在做了20%，你可以看看 20%的版本

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Testing Vikon's Ultimate].osu

好的，加油完成吧，期待你的作品。

突然出了一個緊急問題..
這個map突然下載不了-__-

我的習慣是每次加了edit level，你更新後，然後把整個map 刪掉
再重新下載

所以.... 現在我的電腦沒了這個map-_-

或者 嘗試重新upload一次？

下载不了？你发个邮箱给我，我马上把OSU邮给你

現在的問題是..
osu好像開不了這map
也就是放在song後，按f5，這個file會被歸入fail 那文件夾裏

我用winrar把osu檔拆開 但解壓不到
但看到一件事：
是否 [Vikon's level insane + ]出了問題?
因為osu檔裏，不可以有中文，而是否 「+」 號也不可以使用?
其實那個是否Ultimate lv?
如果是，先把它刪掉吧
我做好才上載
然後叫回insane 或 ultimate
不要加 + 號了

而舊的vikon 's level
或者叫 Vikon's Hard吧

I finished my difficulty, but I think it's rankablity is questionable. D: Someone look over it, but I think it's a bit too much...

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Alex's Insane].osu

GAH, I'm late. 5 difficulties is questionable too.

thanks you Alex0686.Such a cool Insane.

不错的MAP
但是总感觉BPM有点奇怪 (不知道是不是我个人原因

是的，BPM是偏差了少許。
但，只是極少許
相差了0.09，而且已用了好幾次offset補救
所以應該不會有太大問題

(P.S. 努力了5小時，Ultimate已完成了59.1%... 去到01:50 還欠1分鐘，減去了break time.. 大概還有45秒.......
.......去做一個自己不夠級數玩的map......可真吃力-_-......)

幸苦啦···NORMAL HARD现在不知道怎么回事··一分多后吧··NOTE全部对不齐红白线了··我不敢调整啊··

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Ultimate完成了........
好累-_-""

命名方面我打算這樣：
舊的[Vikon's level] 變為 - > [Vikon's Hard]
新的 就叫 [ Vikon's Ultimate ]

因為實在很Ultimate了.......我測試時都是用auto看而已-_-自己玩不到
拜託了~

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Hard].osu

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Ultimate].osu

已经跟新啦，辛苦啦。

最近在考慮一個問題：
Ultimate這難度其實應否存在呢？

因為未必很多人可以玩到
再者，在增加難度時，我不否認很多地方 為了增加難度，所以加了連打
但有一些連打是不必要的。

但刪去那些不必要，我又怕會和hard開始相似
那麼我應該修改Ultimate？還是加強hard的難度就好？

and I want to ask....
do you(all players) think [Ultimate] is needed?
or do you think it is good or not?
If not, where should i improve ?Or do you think hard level is enough?
I would be grateful if you can answer me, thx.

你那个U难度相比djpop那算简单的了，反正我打得过


同一combo内，如果一组三连击的起点为红线，其它组三连击起点也最好是红线

你打的時候
有覺得哪些地方很突兀嗎??

因為3連打的地方好像多了一點

还是刚才那事，三连的起点要一致

就是一个拍子拆成4份，哪3个是打哪1个是空要一致，这样就不太突兀了

14/6/09 12:15 [Vikon's Ultimate]updated
把notes減少和調整位置了
看看能不能保持節奏感的同時，更配合歌曲


我看過
現在的連打是 間距相同，那麼 這樣算是起點一致嗎?
但，如果要起點一致(我意思是第一個連打在紅線，下一連打在下一紅線的話)
那有些間距就會變得不一樣，這不會更難嗎？
所以現在的連打是間距相同，但起點不相同(一個紅 一個白)
現在這樣，是要改的 ? 還是保留?

而且 大概在01:43~02:20 那邊
我是重覆相同模式節奏，看看效果好不好?

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Ultimate].osu

14/6/09 12:15 [Vikon's Ultimate]updated
把notes減少和調整位置了
看看能不能保持節奏感的同時，更配合歌曲


我看過
現在的連打是 間距相同，那麼 這樣算是起點一致嗎?
但，如果要起點一致(我意思是第一個連打在紅線，下一連打在下一紅線的話)
那有些間距就會變得不一樣，這不會更難嗎？
所以現在的連打是間距相同，但起點不相同(一個紅 一個白)
現在這樣，是要改的 ? 還是保留?

而且 大概在01:43~02:20 那邊
我是重覆相同模式節奏，看看效果好不好?

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Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Alex's Insane].osu

gah, someone messed up mine. j/k I'll upload the fixed. 122.85 BPM sounds much better. :\ Especially near the end. :\ Or maybe just the end. I'm not so good at timing.Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Alex's Insane].osu
And thanks Vikon!

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Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Hard].osu

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Ultimate].osu

BPM should be at 122.09 like in Vikon's and Alex's.
Offset should be 303 like in Alex's.
Change normal? to Normal.
I don't know much about timing at the end on Alex's.
Sorry I couldn't be much of help so I'll just star.

thx for Mafiamaster!!
so is time to change~

17/4/09 ( change 3 difficulties )

[normal?]
named changed to [Normal]
BPM changed to 122.09
offsets changed
1st -> 303
[15569] -> [ 15537]
[52823] -> [52763]
[166183]-> [166163]
some notes changed

( 其實我不太明白最後那3個漸慢效果的notes....所以，改得不太好。)

[Vikon's Hard]

3 offsets changed
1st -> 303
2nd -> 52887
3rd -> 166164

[Vikon's Ultimate]

2 offsets changed
[15529] -> [303]
2nd -> [166164]

Alex的和easy下次再修改

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Normal].osu

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Hard].osu

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Ultimate].osu

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Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Easy].osu

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Normal].osu

續上帖(因為一帖只可上載2file)

[Vikon's Hard],[Vikon's Ultimate] added offsets
[15291]
[52887]

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Hard].osu

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Ultimate].osu

VIKON幸苦了，抱歉我才发现最近忙考试，上传了。

Quick mod.
Not great at timing, so I won't touch that for now.

Easy:
This difficulty feels like it did not use distance snap, but the map was easy enough to read except at certain parts. Ex: 00:30:52 (7,8,9,10,1).
Also, get rid of the first timing section because you are not using it in this diff.
The patterns feel okay right now, so fix the spacing and I could mod from there.

Edit:
Other inconsistent spacings:
00:19:71 (2,3,4) -
00:43:30 (2,3,4) -
00:56:08 (5,6,7,8) -
01:01:97 (3,4,5) -
01:09:84 (5,6,7) -
I think you get what I am looking at.

Also I noticed you have notes offscreen like 01:20:65 (1)

Last off, getting rid of the first timing section for the maps that have no beats between the first timing section and the second won't change anything because the second on has another offset that the song will go off of.

Normal:
basically the same opinion and advice from easy.

Edit:
Other inconsistent spacings:
00:04:23 (1,2,3,4) - small spacing change
00:08:16 (3,4,5,6) - " " (also notice how the overall spacing changed between these 2 combos)
00:28:06 (3,4,5) -
There seem to be fewer problems in this difficulty.

Vikon hard:
Get rid of the first timing section because you are not using it in this diff.
I did not like how you sometimes changed spacing randomly, but I guess it is okay
00:28:56 (4,5,6) - make a straight line
01:02:71 (6) - make a horizontal reflection of 4
01:11:07 (1,2,3,4) - I don't like how the spacing between 2,3 is smaller than the rest of the combo
02:08:07 (4,5,6) - make the end of 4 and the start of 6 the same distnace form 5

Vikon's ultimate:
your spacing seems to vary through a combo
00:16:02 (2) - make this properly distance snapped
00:17:01 (8,9,10) - make the spacing here the same as that in 00:16:27 (4,5,6)
00:36:42 (9,10,11,12) - inconsistent spacing
00:48:21 (1) - I think it is illegal for a slider and spinner to be on the same point on the timeline
00:52:88 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - inconsistnet spacing
you might want to comb through this map with distance snap.

Alex:
00:00:30 (1) - this note is very high, almost touching the drain guage
00:02:76 (6) - have this directly under the end of 5
00:28:07 (6) - have this directly under the end of 4
00:46:62 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - I really think this stream is too close together. It is also sort of boring too
00:54:11 (7,8) - make parallel to 5,6
01:09:10 (2,4) - make the spacing between these 2 similar to the spacing between 1,3
01:16:97 (3) - make the same distance from 2 that 1 is
01:17:21 (4) - make the same distance from 5 that 6 is
01:22:86 (9,10,11) - make similar to 3,4,5 (don't know which one is wrong)
01:40:80 (3) - not onscreen
01:53:83 (2) - stack on the end of 1
02:05:13 (3,4) - nice if parallel to 1,2
02:15:45 (1,2,3) - make parallel to 4,5,6
02:20:36 (7,8,9) - might look nicer if all 3 of these were exactly the same

Overall nice beatmap, but it does need quite a bit of work in some diffs. Star.

Sorry I don't understand chinese very well.

thx for blissfulyoshi !

fixed my level :
take most of blissfulyoshi's advice
but keep the first timing section
because this section let the timing become clear( in my opinion)

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Hard].osu

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Ultimate].osu

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Easy].osu

容易：
This困难感觉象没有使用距离短冷期，但是地图是足够容易读除了在某些零件。 前： 00:30 ：52 (7,8,9,10,1)。因为您在这diff，不使用它Also，摆脱第一个时间部分。
The样式现在感到好，因此固定间距，并且我可能从那里的mod。

Normal ：
basically从容易的同样观点和忠告。

大概就是间距的问题了，要放的合理什么的，说真的我以前真的不太注意，随便改了点EASY...要好好复习了··嗯

Alex:
00:00:30 (1) - this note is very high, almost touching the drain guage Moved it.. -.-
00:02:76 (6) - have this directly under the end of 5eh? No nazi...
00:28:07 (6) - have this directly under the end of 4Eh, fine...
00:46:62 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - I really think this stream is too close together. It is also sort of boring tooGah, remade it, but still questioning the rankablity. D:
00:54:11 (7,8) - make parallel to 5,6
01:09:10 (2,4) - make the spacing between these 2 similar to the spacing between 1,3
01:16:97 (3) - make the same distance from 2 that 1 is
01:17:21 (4) - make the same distance from 5 that 6 is
01:22:86 (9,10,11) - make similar to 3,4,5 (don't know which one is wrong)
01:40:80 (3) - not onscreen-.- There's been more offscreen... But I'll change it.
01:53:83 (2) - stack on the end of 1
02:05:13 (3,4) - nice if parallel to 1,2nah
02:15:45 (1,2,3) - make parallel to 4,5,6
02:20:36 (7,8,9) - might look nicer if all 3 of these were exactly the same

Gah! It's +10 million points. D: Oops... Rankability is questionable.

And the stream especially.

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Alex's Insane].osu

I'll change the streams if nobody likes it.

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Quick mod.
Edit:
Other inconsistent spacings:
00:19:71 (2,3,4) - DONE
00:43:30 (2,3,4) - DONE
00:56:08 (5,6,7,8) -DONE
01:01:97 (3,4,5) -DONE
01:09:84 (5,6,7) -DONE
I think you get what I am looking at.

Also I noticed you have notes offscreen like 01:20:65 (1)DONE

Normal:
basically the same opinion and advice from easy.

Edit:
Other inconsistent spacings:
00:04:23 (1,2,3,4) - small spacing changeDONE
00:08:16 (3,4,5,6) - " " (also notice how the overall spacing changed between these 2 combos)DONE
00:28:06 (3,4,5) - DONE
There seem to be fewer problems in this difficulty.

Vikon hard:DONE
Get rid of the first timing section because you are not using it in this diff.
I did not like how you sometimes changed spacing randomly, but I guess it is okay
00:28:56 (4,5,6) - make a straight line
01:02:71 (6) - make a horizontal reflection of 4
01:11:07 (1,2,3,4) - I don't like how the spacing between 2,3 is smaller than the rest of the combo
02:08:07 (4,5,6) - make the end of 4 and the start of 6 the same distnace form 5

Vikon's ultimate:DONE
your spacing seems to vary through a combo
00:16:02 (2) - make this properly distance snapped
00:17:01 (8,9,10) - make the spacing here the same as that in 00:16:27 (4,5,6)
00:36:42 (9,10,11,12) - inconsistent spacing
00:48:21 (1) - I think it is illegal for a slider and spinner to be on the same point on the timeline
00:52:88 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - inconsistnet spacing
you might want to comb through this map with distance snap.

Alex:DONE
00:00:30 (1) - this note is very high, almost touching the drain guage
00:02:76 (6) - have this directly under the end of 5
00:28:07 (6) - have this directly under the end of 4
00:46:62 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) - I really think this stream is too close together. It is also sort of boring too
00:54:11 (7,8) - make parallel to 5,6
01:09:10 (2,4) - make the spacing between these 2 similar to the spacing between 1,3
01:16:97 (3) - make the same distance from 2 that 1 is
01:17:21 (4) - make the same distance from 5 that 6 is
01:22:86 (9,10,11) - make similar to 3,4,5 (don't know which one is wrong)
01:40:80 (3) - not onscreen
01:53:83 (2) - stack on the end of 1
02:05:13 (3,4) - nice if parallel to 1,2
02:15:45 (1,2,3) - make parallel to 4,5,6
02:20:36 (7,8,9) - might look nicer if all 3 of these were exactly the same

fixed.thx blissfulyoshi !
I think your suggestion is important!

I dont know if I'm missing something but the the timing is a mess!

I think Alex's difficulty has good timing. Im thinking everyone should operate off of that.
Go to 00:52:251 and listen to timing tab. Then listen again on all the other difficulties
It sounds WAY off. Right now, your timing tabs are saying the music has a different beat.
Ive been trying to see what timing i would use but i cant get it down right now. maybe ill check back after i see what you guys have to say about it.

Alex's final timing point is also too early by the last notes.

Its not worth modding in detail until timing is solid

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Testing Vikon's Hard].osu

关于在00:52:251对OFFSET的修改为52887是为了让主音对齐红白线，对于TIMING听起来说是不对的，其实仔细会发现OFFSET相比15291来说是没有变化的，我敢说时间是坚实的，仔细看就不难发现对于TIMING三个拍点来说主音只是对齐了中间那拍点而已（两头拍点才有哒音），所以BPM OFFSET都是正确的，整个BEATMAP修改不下50次，光针对BPM 和OFFSET酒不下20次，所以你还会认为我们不会有一修改好BPM和OFFSET?如果坚持的话，那也很简单，单把00:52:251后对于OFFSET的调整在改回成15291就行了，不过这样就会存在辅音（蓝线）变成主音的问题，歌曲在此本身也就有变化。
About is 52887 is to let in 00:52:251 pair of OFFSET revision aline the red white line keynote, sounded regarding TIMING to say is incorrect, actually careful will discover that OFFSET compared 15291 does not have the change, I dared saying that the time was solid, looked carefully was not difficult to discover keynote only alines among that racket regarding TIMING three racket (two racket only then to have clip clop sound), therefore BPM OFFSET was correct, entire BEATMAP revised does not get down 50 times, the acupuncture laser the liquor did not get down to BPM and OFFSET 20 times, therefore you will also think that we will not have a revisionGood BPM and OFFSET? If insisted, that is also very simple, after list 00:52:251, was changing regarding the OFFSET adjustment 15291 has been good, but like this will have the consonant (blue line) to turn the keynote question, the song also had the change in this itself.

PS:Sorry to my bad english

Your translation came out bad =x

1. Inherit this timing point.

2.There will be a clap sound on these beats. Not before this. Not after this.

3.There will be a drum sound on these beats.

(?). Sometimes this this circle should be on the end when you hear the clap or the drum.




If the song changes beat or offset then you should see this in all difficultys. Red timing should be the same on all difficultys (unless someone changes BPM for slider speed)

这次的改动：取消了所有难度使用到对00:52:251调整OFFSET（调整为52887）的动作，正如我所说的，对MAP本身是没有影响的，这样TIMING听起来是很准确的。

I used translator. The notes may not move a lot but it is hard to mod if timing looks bad.

ALL:
!! Look at HP drain on empty space. You might have to add breaks.
!! Please add breaks! two minutes is very long. This is more important for harder difficulties.

Vikon Hard
The stopping sliders look messy =x
01:09:84 (3,4) - move away a little?
02:09:30 (5,6) - align with 4? if you want

Vikon Ultimate
Use "Catmull" sliders? (push 's') [00:17:62 (11) - looks bad]
01:37:11 (1) - spacing might be hard to see when you have to click this fast. Move away?
01:40:31 (1,2,3) - make spacing the same for all hits
02:22:45 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - impossible to see for me.
-i do not like maps that have too much 1/4hitstreams

Normal
Timing:52,886 please inherit timing here also
01:59:96 (7) - move down so it follows slider (6)?
02:56:85 (10) - spacing
02:57:71 (3) - spacing

Easy
Inherit timing again.
Impossible to fail
make hit circle bigger?
make hp drain a little bigger?
01:11:80 (2,3,4) - spacing
01:17:70 (3,4,5) - spacing
01:32:44 (9) - move forward 1/4. then fix spacing.
01:34:90 (1) - move away. down?
01:37:11 (5) - move away.
01:44:24 (7) - move forward 1/4
01:48:17 (4) - move forward 1/4. shorten by 1/4. then fix spacing.
01:52:84 (5,6) - move away.
02:07:58 (6) - too far.
02:08:81 (7) - new combo?
02:11:76 (13) - move forward 1/4 and shorten? It is ok to be late for easy if you do a 1/1 beat combo.
02:15:57 (6) - ^
02:19:62 (5) - forward 1/4?

I will only mod a map that i can complete, I cannot do Alex Insane.

fufe wrote:

I used translator. The notes may not move a lot but it is hard to mod if timing looks bad.

ALL:
!! Look at HP drain on empty space. You might have to add breaks.
!! Please add breaks! two minutes is very long. This is more important for harder difficulties.

Vikon Hard
The stopping sliders look messy =x
01:09:84 (3,4) - move away a little?DONE
02:09:30 (5,6) - align with 4? if you wantDONE

Vikon Ultimate
Use "Catmull" sliders? (push 's') [00:17:62 (11) - looks bad]
01:37:11 (1) - spacing might be hard to see when you have to click this fast. Move away?DONE
01:40:31 (1,2,3) - make spacing the same for all hitsDONE
02:22:45 (2,1,2,3,1,2,3) - impossible to see for me.DONE
-i do not like maps that have too much 1/4hitstreams

Normal
Timing:52,886 please inherit timing here alsoDONE
01:59:96 (7) - move down so it follows slider (6)?DONE
02:56:85 (10) - spacingDONE
02:57:71 (3) - spacingDONE

Easy
Inherit timing again.
Impossible to fail
make hit circle bigger?DONE
make hp drain a little bigger?DONE
01:11:80 (2,3,4) - spacingDONE( problem?)
01:17:70 (3,4,5) - spacingDONE(^)
01:32:44 (9) - move forward 1/4. then fix spacing.DONE
01:34:90 (1) - move away. down?DONE
01:37:11 (5) - move away.DONE
01:44:24 (7) - move forward 1/4DONE
01:48:17 (4) - move forward 1/4. shorten by 1/4. then fix spacing.DONE
01:52:84 (5,6) - move away.DONE
02:07:58 (6) - too far.DONE
02:08:81 (7) - new combo?DONE
02:11:76 (13) - move forward 1/4 and shorten? It is ok to be late for easy if you do a 1/1 beat combo. DONE
02:15:57 (6) - ^DONE
02:19:62 (5) - forward 1/4?DONE

I will only mod a map that i can complete, I cannot do Alex Insane.

fixed.thx fufe. love this song,do the best we can .

Remove the [Air] on the title please.

[Easy]

Remove first offset.

BPM 122,10 Offset 15.305

01:08:87 (4) - New combo.
01:24:35 (4) - Extend by 1/4.
01:31:47 (7) - New combo.
02:10:79 (12) - ^
02:13:24 (1) - Too close from 02:11:53 (14)

[Normal]

01:05:96 (1) - Finish.
01:40:30 (4) - Remove this note.

[Vikon's Hard]

00:42:81 (5) - Illegal slider.

[Vikon's Ultimate]

Abuse of claps on this difficulty.

[Alex's Insane]

02:09:92 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) - Hard to read imo.

[Vikon's Hard]

00:42:81 (5) edited the tricky slider

[Vikon's Ultimate]

edited the sound

plz help me to see if they are fine, thx

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Hard].osu

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta[Air] (skyflying) [Vikon's Ultimate].osu

osuplayer111 wrote:

Remove the [Air] on the title please.

[Easy]

Remove first offset.DONE

BPM 122,10 Offset 15.305DONE

01:08:87 (4) - New combo.DONE
01:24:35 (4) - Extend by 1/4.DONE
01:31:47 (7) - New combo.DONE
02:10:79 (12) - ^DONE
02:13:24 (1) - Too close from 02:11:53 (14)DONE

[Normal]

01:05:96 (1) - Finish.DONE
01:40:30 (4) - Remove this note.DONE

[Vikon's Hard]DONE
00:42:81 (5) - Illegal slider.

[Vikon's Ultimate]DONE
Abuse of claps on this difficulty.

[Alex's Insane]Waite Alex's Edit

02:09:92 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) - Hard to read imo.

Thx osuplayer111.

PS:这次的修改，统一了BPM122.10 PFFSET15305 TIMING听上去同步率有提高·应为是极其细微的变动Resnam all notes 某触TEST后说的“VIKON HARD 00：28：941 那个5跟接下来的1处理下，很不和谐那个5是由于位置特殊
那个1是由于是硬加上去的，音乐里没有，凭乐感我也猜不到它会出现，只是这个位置我几乎打不出300”VIKON我不知道怎么办啊··也可以无视他·嘿嘿

So is everyone's fine on the streams apparently? D:

@osuplayer111: And I don't see it too hard. The part before it looks harder. :\

And I'm confused on what you guys are on with the Timing... I see 122.10 and then you guys have 122.09 at the end. I hate timing. I realized why my end timing is weird. I miss typed .085 and it was .85

Sorry, but I'll upload tomorrow, my osu! is being really strange. Could someone re-time the last part, it doesn't sound like 122.10, it feels faster on some parts, and I don't think it's the offset. Listen to the last three sliders, the last one feels off, but the others are fine. :\ I suck at timing so much. D:

I'm not uploading until I get a good timing.

[quote][skyflying:“VIKON HARD 00：28：941 那个5跟接下来的1处理下，很不和谐那个5是由于位置特殊
那个1是由于是硬加上去的，音乐里没有，凭乐感我也猜不到它会出现，只是这个位置我几乎打不出300”VIKON我不知道怎么办啊/quote]

那一段喔XD
[00:28:560] (4) (5) (6)是玩jump的，所以手很自然地把它們放在slider開始的位置
而[00:29:788] (1) (2) 雖然音樂沒有，但是跟從紅白線，所以其實不難猜到，我在測試時，其他人總能過到。
甚至有時他們能夠打出full combo時，我還失手miss了一下XD
所以notes沒有太大問題的

P.S. [Vikon's Hard] 調較BPM後，是否還未重移notes的位置？

P.S.2 其實很早以前，我就做了一個spinner-circle的圖，雖然尺寸不太合適，但是你看看，考慮一下用不用吧~
個人覺得這圖很好看的XD

可以用，不过还要做点边框什么的，修改了BPM和OF后由于变化不大只是非常细微的变动·所有NOTE都重置了，我只是放慢50%后感觉TIMING比以前那个好久换了，现在等ALEX有什么进展吧也许TIMING还能进一步精确

[Vikon's Ultimate]
[00:48:228] illegal slider appeared again, fixed it.

P.S. [Vikon's Hard]真的重置了notes? 我在osu更新至lastest version ，但發覺所有notes還未重置
是你上載錯了檔案嗎?還是其他原因?

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta (skyflying) [Vikon's Ultimate].osu

除了ALEX的全部套用新BPM OF都重置了NOTE··· 好像是我疏忽了

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

bump bump

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta (skyflying) [Alex's Insane].osu

Looking at Vikon's Hard:
00:51:17 (2) - New combo to keep the flow from before?
00:51:66 (3) - ^

Easy:
00:34:223 - So empty here, even though it's easy, a slider will fit just right in Or something at least. >>

Normal:
Why does this one get more breaks at the beginning.

Vikon's Ultimate:
00:17:63 (11) - Kinda ugly looking. Also watch out, it's going a bit high.
00:21:57 (13) - First part of ^
00:25:50 (11) - ^ Both of them, it's going too close to the edge.
All sliders: ^ What's with the weird points? :\

Alex's:
Perfect! Ready for ranking! j/k

[All difficulties]
02:54:02 and on -> The tempo is decreasing, please use additional timing sections. All difficulties are falling completely out of sync at this point, and this must be corrected.
Also, Adjust all offsets in the song by +30ms is sounding much better to me.

The following are just suggestions to perhaps improve the flow of each map, I recommend them, but feel free to only use some of them.

[Easy]
01:24:34 (4) - Move ahead 1/4 tick to blue and make 1/4 shorter
01:47:93 (4) - Move ahead 1/4 tick to blue and make 1/4 shorter
01:59:85 (6) - Move back 1/4 tick to blue
02:03:90 (5) - Move back 1/4 tick to blue and make 1/4 longer
02:11:52 (13) - Move ahead 1/4 tick and make 1/4 shorter
02:15:45 (6) - Move ahead 1/4 tick to blue
02:19:38 (5) - Move ahead 1/4 tick and make 1/4 shorter

[Normal]
00:25:62 (5) - Back 1/4 tick to blue
00:33:24 (5) - Shorten 1/4 tick to end on blue
00:41:10 (6) - ^
00:57:19 (4) - move ahead 1/4 tick and shorten by 1/4 so it goes from red to white
01:04:69 (1) - shorten 1/2 tick to end on previous white
01:29:01 (3) - back 1/4 tick to blue
01:29:50 (4) - back 1/2 tick to red
02:47:88 (6) - back 1/4 to blue
02:49:84 (6) - ^
02:51:81 (6) - ^
Everything past this point is out of sync and I can't mod due to timing problem.

[Vikon's hard]
well synced, but it is surprising when the music switches from soft to normal samples.

[Vikon's ultimate]
I really don't like this difficulty. It's nothing but streams all the way through and that makes it tiring to play. My advice is to replace half of the streams with other unique patterns.

[Alex's insane]
01:47:42 (1) - The mid point of the slider does not sync the music at all. Try another pattern.

I think the stacks should be removed
01:37:60 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) -
02:09:90 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) -
02:25:75 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41) -
These run too long.

Also, this is overmapped. There should be some regular pauses in the map. There is no stopping clicking at all in this. >_<
I really don't like the flow of it when there is just no stop and endless stacks.

Please consider my suggestions, I just want to help improve the map.
It is much better than when I first looked at it a month ago, so it is now getting my star.

james039 wrote:

[All difficulties]i will mod when i have best idea
02:54:02 and on -> The tempo is decreasing, please use additional timing sections. All difficulties are falling completely out of sync at this point, and this must be corrected.
Also, Adjust all offsets in the song by +30ms is sounding much better to me.

The following are just suggestions to perhaps improve the flow of each map, I recommend them, but feel free to only use some of them.

[Easy]
01:24:34 (4) - Move ahead 1/4 tick to blue and make 1/4 shorter done
01:47:93 (4) - Move ahead 1/4 tick to blue and make 1/4 shorterdone
01:59:85 (6) - Move back 1/4 tick to bluedone
02:03:90 (5) - Move back 1/4 tick to blue and make 1/4 longerdone
02:11:52 (13) - Move ahead 1/4 tick and make 1/4 shorterdone
02:15:45 (6) - Move ahead 1/4 tick to bluedone
02:19:38 (5) - Move ahead 1/4 tick and make 1/4 shorterdone

[Normal]
00:25:62 (5) - Back 1/4 tick to bluedone
00:33:24 (5) - Shorten 1/4 tick to end on bluedone
00:41:10 (6) - ^done
00:57:19 (4) - move ahead 1/4 tick and shorten by 1/4 so it goes from red to whitedone
01:04:69 (1) - shorten 1/2 tick to end on previous whitedone
01:29:01 (3) - back 1/4 tick to bluedone
01:29:50 (4) - back 1/2 tick to reddone
02:47:88 (6) - back 1/4 to bluedone
02:49:84 (6) - ^done
02:51:81 (6) - ^done
Everything past this point is out of sync and I can't mod due to timing problem.

[Vikon's hard]
well synced, but it is surprising when the music switches from soft to normal samples.

[Vikon's ultimate]
I really don't like this difficulty. It's nothing but streams all the way through and that makes it tiring to play. My advice is to replace half of the streams with other unique patterns.

[Alex's insane]wait alex's mod
01:47:42 (1) - The mid point of the slider does not sync the music at all. Try another pattern.

I think the stacks should be removed
01:37:60 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19) -
02:09:90 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) -
02:25:75 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41) -
These run too long.

Also, this is overmapped. There should be some regular pauses in the map. There is no stopping clicking at all in this. >_<
I really don't like the flow of it when there is just no stop and endless stacks.

Please consider my suggestions, I just want to help improve the map.
It is much better than when I first looked at it a month ago, so it is now getting my star.

thanks you james039!

18/7

[Vikon's Ultimate]
fixed the problem of being too close to the edge

and changed the pattern after[01:84:540]
(especially for those after [02:46:164], It's a big change )

please help me to have a look , THX.

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta (skyflying) [Vikon's Ultimate].osu

General:
Please use only slidertick rate 1. Not too sure why 02:46:164 timing section is .01 off.

Alex's Insane:
I think the large spacing isn't very good.. it's a nice calm song and doesn't deserve that wide of a spacing. Please do something about this, I really like this song. >W< This is also overmapped, imo.
00:44:77 (7) - Too far from (6).
00:45:51 (1) - Too far from previous (12).
00:46:24 (7) - Too far from (6).
00:46:98 (1) - Too far from previous (12).

* Repeat for the others like this.

01:39:32 (19,20) - I think you should delete these two, then move 01:39:56 (1) to where the (19) originally was.
01:55:290 - Please, no x2 here! Like I said, its a slow calm song, nothing worthy for an x2 part! >__<
02:06:71 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) - OH MY GODDDDD
02:25:75 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41) - ^
02:52:35 (1) - Shorten to 02:54:068.

The timing section at 02:49:836 should have the BPM around 134, I think.

Vikon's Ultimate:
Please use small hitcircles here.
00:48:22 (1) - This spinner screwed up. Please forward it by 1/4th on the timeline.
00:56:33 (4) - Too far from (3). Best fix is to just reposition the (3).
02:14:22 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Fix the spacing please.
02:17:41 (1,2,3) - ^
02:26:38 (1) - I think it's better off you just deleting this beat.
02:49:84 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - Please stick to a constant spacing here. >__>
02:54:02 (1) - Remove clap.

Vikon's Hard:
Please use the bigger circles here if anything.
00:47:24 (1,1) - Remove new combo.
01:09:85 (3) - A little too close to (2).
01:54:32 (3) - Too close to (2).
02:54:02 (1) - Remove clap.

Note: I didn't feel like pointing out all of the spacing problems here - you probably get the point by now.

Normal:
00:15:290 - Delete this extra timing section.
00:15:305 - Inherit this timing section.
00:47:73 (7) - New combo.
01:00:75 (1,2,3) - Fix the spacing change like this. (1,2) are further apart on the timeline, but closer on the grid, and the reverse for (2,3).
01:29:25 (3) - 1/4th forward on the timeline.
01:30:98 (2) - Please stack properly with 01:29:99 (5).
02:06:36 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:19:13 (4,5,6) - Incorrect spacing. Maybe just move (6) closer to (5).
02:26:01 (5) - New combo.
02:55:99 (7,8,9) - 1/8th forward on the timeline.
02:57:71 (3) - 1/4th forward on the timeline.

Easy:
00:15:305 - Delete the extra timing section.
00:34:96 (1) - Too far from previous (3).
00:47:73 (5) - New combo.
00:59:03 (8) - ^
01:08:62 (7) - ^
01:14:76 (7) - ^
01:24:22 (4) - 1/4th forward on the timeline, then move it away from (3).
01:31:47 (7) - New combo.
01:31:96 (9) - Too far from (8).
01:32:33 (10) - Too close to (9).
01:35:40 (3) - Move closer to (2).
01:41:79 (3) - New combo.
01:47:81 (4) - 1/4th forward on the timeline, then move it away from (3).
02:08:57 (7) - New combo.
02:10:78 (12) - ^
02:11:39 (13) - 1/4th forward on the timeline, then move it away from (12), then extend it by 1/4th.
02:15:45 (6) - 1/4th forward on the timeline, then move it away from (5).
02:19:26 (5) - 1/4th forward on the timeline, then move it away from (4), then extend it by 1/4th.
02:21:103 - The kiai time doesn't fit.
02:26:01 (5) - New combo.
02:55:99 (1,2) - 1/4th forward on the timeline.

Holy crap that took so long. Make good use of this mod post, please. =~="
/sweat

Fixed.very thanks!

Alex's Insane:
02:06:71 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26)
02:25:75 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41)
it's hard to mod wait alex

alright, I'll make some of these changes in the morning, just posting to show I'm still doing this.

thanks for PMing me

Takuma wrote:

General:
Please use only slidertick rate 1. Not too sure why 02:46:164 timing section is .01 off.
Changed tick rate.

Alex's Insane:
I think the large spacing isn't very good.. it's a nice calm song and doesn't deserve that wide of a spacing. Please do something about this, I really like this song. >W< This is also overmapped, imo. Well, I changed the spacing. >.>
00:44:77 (7) - Too far from (6).
00:45:51 (1) - Too far from previous (12).
00:46:24 (7) - Too far from (6).
00:46:98 (1) - Too far from previous (12).

* Repeat for the others like this.
Added new combos, I think there's been worse spacings recently ranked. *coughflyawaycough*

01:39:32 (19,20) - I think you should delete these two, then move 01:39:56 (1) to where the (19) originally was. K
01:55:290 - Please, no x2 here! Like I said, its a slow calm song, nothing worthy for an x2 part! >__< Alright, changed
02:06:71 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26) - OH MY GODDDDD ._.
02:25:75 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41) - ^
02:52:35 (1) - Shorten to 02:54:068. ? Shorten?

The timing section at 02:49:836 should have the BPM around 134, I think.

I think I got it basically with all these fixes. Hopefully... If not, just do the BPM change and resnap for me. >.>

You really deserved that 2 kudos.

EDIT: oops, forgot i posted earlier... sorry.

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta (skyflying) [Alex's Insane].osu

Just a note that there are two horribly bugged notes on Alex's Isane. Check out the .osu file searching for NaN to find them. Best just delete those two lines from the .osu file and fixing up in-game.

p.s. some of the sliders are really ugly sounding in that difficulty. Plus this has nothing on Jame's perfection of the Lix mix of this map D: D: D: D: *hides now*

peppy wrote:

Just a note that there are two horribly bugged notes on Alex's Isane. Check out the .osu file searching for NaN to find them. Best just delete those two lines from the .osu file and fixing up in-game.

p.s. some of the sliders are really ugly sounding in that difficulty. Plus this has nothing on Jame's perfection of the Lix mix of this map D: D: D: D: *hides now*

Oh, thanks, I noticed that slider kept disappearing. >_< (Never noticed the other one though.) It does have something to do with 1/8th though. (I think if I switch back to 1/4th it makes them disappear. (Or something similar.)

(Make a silent normal-sliderslide.wav if you must, soft-sliderslide.wav too)

Download: Lia - Tori no Uta (skyflying) [Alex's Insane].osu

nice song~!

I like Air. ^^
~Star.

~star