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Werewolf Game 3 [Co-victory - neither side won]

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Rolled
I almost missed this :(

join
m980
Sure why not

Join
anonymous_old
Joining because I don't have much else to do over the summer and am bored at nights, and days.

ESTfag here btw.

Will there be a separate channel for this?
LadySuburu
/in if there's room.
Echo
m980 was the 16th if i counted right
Derekku
Personally, I'd like having more people.

And since days/nights will be shorter in real time, it shouldn't really matter. =)
Two_old
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Echo
If you don't get a place in this game, join the Mafia game instead! The only difference is that once someone reaches the required number of votes, the day is immediately over. Oh, and no talking outside the thread for the other game too.

</shameless plug>
adam2046
Or join it anyway.
kuwarudo
WHAT THE SHIT I JUST CAME HOME AND THIS IS WHAT I SEE


JOIN

SON OF A BITCH QQ

THERE IS NO GOD I WILL GET IN HERE I KNOW IT
Topic Starter
Pasonia
Alright, this is progressing far smoother than I thought.

m980, you lucky sonuvagun, you get the last slot.

For the rest of you who posted but didn't get a slot this round, don't fret. Later on I will send you a PM which can act as a Reserved Slot Ticket for future games.
Cuddlebun
kuwarudo didn't get in? there IS a God...
Rolled

Pasonia wrote:

Shortly after this edit, I will code a C++ program that will generate your roles at random.
Look at this cool guy.
nardii

Pasonia wrote:

Shortly after this edit, I will code a C++ program that will generate your roles at random.
Hopefully not using some really crappy PRNG.
Rolled
[10:09] <Larto> Goddamnit Pasonia, I always get the boring roles.
Larto
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adam2046
This is gonna be the BEST GAME EVER!
Wizard Of Orz
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Cuddlebun

Larto wrote:

Rolled wrote:

[10:09] <Larto> Goddamnit Pasonia, I always get the boring roles.
What, does this make me suspicious? Hell, I just felt the need to say that.
why are you so worried huh

HUH
anonymous_old

Pasonia wrote:

m980, you lucky sonuvagun, you get the last slot.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---

Rolled wrote:

Pasonia wrote:

Shortly after this edit, I will code a C++ program that will generate your roles at random.
Look at this cool guy.
Just write a simple BASH script.

cat names | shuf | sdiff - roles
Derekku

strager wrote:

Pasonia wrote:

m980, you lucky sonuvagun, you get the last slot.
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU---

Rolled wrote:

Pasonia wrote:

Shortly after this edit, I will code a C++ program that will generate your roles at random.
Look at this cool guy.
Just write a simple BASH script.

cat names | shuf | sdiff - roles
TOO CONFUSING adlfk :?

EDIT: just kidding I know it's easy xd
Sir Minelli
Am i late for joining?
anonymous_old
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Echo

strager wrote:

Rolled wrote:

Pasonia wrote:

Shortly after this edit, I will code a C++ program that will generate your roles at random.
Just write a simple BASH script.
cat names | shuf | sdiff - roles
Or just pick names out of a hat ;X

Anyone know the number of wolves in this game?
Rolled
Pasonia wouldn't tell. :(
Echo
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Loginer
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Echo
I'd imagine something like this:
#include <cstdlib>
#include <cstdio>

int main() {
int a[16];
for (int i=0; i<16; ++i) {
a[i] = i;
}
for (int i=0; i<1000; ++i) {
int t1 = rand() % 16;
int t2 = rand() % 16;
int t = a[t1];
a[t1] = a[t2];
a[t2] = t;
}
for (int i=0; i<16; ++i) {
printf("%i\n", a[i]);
}
return 0;
}
anonymous_old
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Rolled
I knew larto was a wolf~
Loginer
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Echo
I still prefer names from a hat ;P
Derekku
All this coding is making my head hurt. :(
Wizard Of Orz
This is an official Werewolf Game #3 Communication

Please respond by 12:00PM, Singapore Standard Time (which is 12 hours from this PM). If you fail to reply by then, I will take it that your role is lapsed to another player.

Please RSVP.
ok i responded
Topic Starter
Pasonia
Reply through PM... dammit.

Anyway, hold your horses. After this post it's a Day One post, and we'll flag off at around 3AM local time.
Topic Starter
Pasonia
Game Introduction

*... In local news today, a strange incident has occurred at Damonville during an election day process. Locals are evacuating the town out of total fear, but the exact cause is not known...*

*whirr* *bzzt*

"Ahem!" Pasonia clears his throat out loud. "You guys, over there, you ain't sleepin' on me for this one, hmm?"
Nobody dared to shake their heads. No one out of the sixteen knew exactly what to expect. Some looked on at Pasonia with droopy eyes, but they do try to keep themselves awake.

"Excellent!" He cried. "You guys are lucky enough to be selected in a game of survival."

"If I may, you imbecile," foulcoon raised an objection, "why are we here for?"
"Yea, that's right, what's the big idea?" Cried a girl's voice, presumably that of Todesengal's.

"Quiet," barked Pasonia, pressing a remote controller which forced the two back to their seats, involuntarily. "I haven't even gotten to the exciting part. Oh, and yea, a word of reminder; you guys have ALL been tagged with a microchip I have conveniently inserted into your right wrists; you dare disobey my words and I guarantee you the next thing you'll be zapped."

Now nobody even dared to speak up. Everyone knew that they could hear a pin drop if it did.

"Perfect. Listen up carefully; I had a good mix of people with political leanings, with special skills, and stuff. Issue being, however, that some of you have been modified into Version 10. That is jargon for a serum that turns some of you into blood-lusting werewolves every night fall. Those guys who got hit, you know who you are. The rest of you, you are to find a way to eliminate these wolves. before they turn you into history."

A commotion ensued in the gathering room.

"It's about 3AM here now, so I do suggest some of you get some sleep. Every evening, I want you guys to all make a vote on who you think should die. Seriously."
"But why are we--"
"No 'buts', no protests, no nothing. You find your way into it. I can only tell you this; some of you are either gifted, or privileged, or evil. You either let the evil overrun your ass, or you band together and eliminate the devils' advocates."

Pasonia proceeds to leave the room.

"...oh," he pulled back, suddenly remembering something, "If you want anything, or a bed or whatever just go to the Meridian Hotel. Basically, only the sixteen of you are in town now, and I have seen it befitting to peruse the facilities of this small, god-knows-where town to my advantage. I won't be contactable unless needed be, so you guys figure out what to do. By the way, the jacuzzi rocks."

Before anyone had a chance to figure out what Pasonia actually meant, he vanished.

Day One has started. Tension begins. Stuff will begin to fly...
Rolled

Pasonia wrote:

"It's about 3AM here now, so I do suggest some of you get some sleep.

Pasonia wrote:

Before anyone had a chance to figure out what Pasonia actually meant, he vanished.

Day One has started. Tension begins. Stuff will begin to fly...
So is this night 0?

YOU CONFUSE ME PASONIA.
Wizard Of Orz
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Mashley
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Larto

Agent Spin Here wrote:

Nice introduction there.
*claps*

I have an aux role, but it'd be pretty silly to reveal what it is in the first post. So I won't.
It's pretty silly to say that you have one on the first day. Jesus.
Cuddlebun
hey foul

how about that jacuzzi ;)
Olinad
I'll never understand why we are supposed to vote during the first day -.-' Anyway, good game to anyone :D
0_o

Olinad wrote:

Anyway, good game to anyone :D
and by "anyone" I assume you mean anyone who isn't a flesh eating killer? ;)
nardii
I don't know who to vote so I'll just jump on the bandwagon and...

Lurk without voting Todesengal
0_o
Ok, might as well start this off (please don't kill me for this)

I vote ASH. Claiming to be an aux right off the bat makes himself a ridiculously easy wolf target. Not the smartest move.. unless he didn't have to worry about being night killed to begin with?

idk, discuss?
Rolled
It was dumb whether or not he does have an aux, doesn't have an aux, or is a werewolf. Not going to use a vote on it just quite yet though.
Echo
Finally, a new game that I can participate in ^^;

Since Pasonia won't reveal the number of wolves, can we get a general consensus about how many there are? I'd imagine there are 5, which gives us 3 days of miskills.

Olinad wrote:

I'll never understand why we are supposed to vote during the first day -.-' Anyway, good game to anyone :D
It's either we vote on day 1, or we lose someone on night 1... I'd rather we lynch someone =.=

0_o wrote:

I vote ASH. Claiming to be an aux right off the bat makes himself a ridiculously easy wolf target. Not the smartest move.. unless he didn't have to worry about being night killed to begin with?
No comment.
Echo
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YellowerYoshi
Day 1 voting is pretty much just a random guess in these games since there's really nothing to speculate about until aux roles have had a night to act and such.

With that said, I'll just make a blind vote.

Lynch vote cast against Larto.
thepianist

YellowYoshi1 wrote:

With that said, I'll just make a blind vote.

Lynch vote cast against Larto.
Personally, I don't like blind votes (to be more exact, people claiming to make blind votes) so I'll first temporarily settle on voting for YellowYoshi1.

I think.

I'll see about it later.
Echo
What did you guys think about nardi's post though?
thepianist

Echo wrote:

What did you guys think about nardi's post though?
Iono. Same thing as I think about blindly voting. :P
Echo
nardi better stop LURKING and answer my question
Topic Starter
Pasonia
Pasonia steps into the hall at 10:15AM and posted an announcement.

Dear experiments,

Since it's the first day, I decided we'll have a little bit of liberty with timing and start the day in the wee hours. Don't get yourself all hot and bothered about 3AM.

Secondly, I will update the vote standings.

Thirdly, as I am an easily confused person, do not mark in bold when you're clearly not voting, puh-LEESE.
Lurk without voting わなんでやねん、バカ?

Regards
Pasonia

P.S. Execution method this game? I guess I'll just step in front of you and shoot you with my pistol. I need an excuse to do some ultraviolent shit rofl.
anonymous_old
Nonexistent people do not talk in a game you don't exist. kthxbai.
Echo

Pasonia wrote:

Thirdly, as I am an easily confused person, do not mark in bold when you're clearly not voting, puh-LEESE.
Lurk without voting なんでやねん、バカ?
「わ」って何だ?「は」ってじゃない、バカ?

Stop lurking everyone and start making posts
Cuddlebun
shooting someone with a pistol is not superviolent

how about you make it a plot twist--YOU'RE a wolf, and you kill them personally :U

or you could just pistolwhip them to death
adam2046
I can't really decide if Pas is insane or not...

I don't see "admitted to lurking" as a very good point.
Echo

adam2046 wrote:

I don't see "admitted to lurking" as a very good point.
Lurking in itself is an average tell, but remember nardi was lynched as a wolf last game (and I'm pretty sure he is/was). Reusing a phrase that garnered suspicion, even though it may not have been the ultimate cause of his lynch, is not something a villager would do.
adam2046
I will keep that in mind but I wont be voting for him based on that.
Larto
By the way everyone, I wouldn't immediately say that ASH is a wolf. This is his second Werewolf Game as he said, so he just might have been stupid.

I'm voting for Echo
for the time being. His post here looks like he's argumenting a bit differently from the past two games. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually was a wolf. I'll probably change my vote later in the game, but for the moment, Echo shall be it.
Derekku
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nardii
Why can't I joke around without people wanting to kill me? Anyway, I'm not a wolf this time. Also, what's wrong with admitting to lurking" (especially if I'm not actually lurking, but sleeping)?
Derekku

nardi11011 wrote:

Why can't I joke around without people wanting to kill me? Anyway, I'm not a wolf this time. Also, what's wrong with admitting to lurking" (especially if I'm not actually lurking, but sleeping)?
Uhhh... because it obviously makes you look suspicious? This isn't the kind of game to randomly joke around in.

Werewolf Game. Srs Business.
Echo

nardi11011 wrote:

Why can't I joke around without people wanting to kill me? Anyway, I'm not a wolf this time. Also, what's wrong with admitting to lurking" (especially if I'm not actually lurking, but sleeping)?
When you lurk you're soaking up information without contributing anything. As a villager we need as much information as possible to find the wolves. Hence lurking is somewhat of a wolf tell.

I still say quoting yourself is extremely suspicious. Last time you did that, you became the target of the first lynch of the game, which you only got yourself out of by claiming priest. Are you planning to do something like that again? If you're a villager, you wouldn't have quoted yourself, to try to avoid this.

The only reason I can think of for you to use your "bandwagon" quote that landed you in trouble is to use it as reverse psychology.
adam2046
Echo you're a lot more agressive in this game...
But I guess that's just how you are anyway, I'm keeping an eye on you.

Nardi suspicious...kinda.

ASH...slightly suspicious...
foulcoon
This game are starting out slow. This game need to pick up pace so it can hold my interest.

Also in all seriousness... Echo was civilian in game 1. Echo was civilian (according to ASH) in game 2. I can't shake the feeling that Echo is wolf in this one. Even though these roles are "random", he is speaking a bit differently. Then again, nobody has role claimed yet for him to defend and strategize.
Echo
Rolled
Personally, I saw nothing suspicious in Nardi's post and took it as nothing more than sarcasm.

@echo's aggression, he needed to change something up hmm? Apparently what he was doing in the past 2 games (and mafia 1, apparently) wasn't doing him any good. Echo is in a lose lose situation:
  1. He acts the same way in previous WWGs, causing the same suspicion he drew before.
  2. He acts differently, and people see this as suspicious as well.
Perhaps we should cut Echo some slack and just kill him on day 2 this time ^_^

In before somebody digs too much into that last statement and accuses me of being a wolf.

Just to clarify, I am not trusting Echo out of pity, but I see no reason to suspect him at this point. Sadly, I don't see any reason to suspect anybody else either so I will have to withhold my vote a bit longer.
Loginer

nardi11011 wrote:

I don't know who to vote so I'll just jump on the bandwagon and...

Lurk without voting Todesengal
What do you mean by that? No one even mentioned Todesengal before you made that post.
Rolled
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Echo
So no one other than me sees that line as suspicious :/

IRC wrote:

14:52 < Echo> think it through
14:52 < Echo> imagine
14:52 < Echo> you said something on the first day
14:52 < Echo> which resulted in you getting lynched
14:53 < Echo> which you onnly just backed out of by fakeclaiming
14:53 < Echo> would you seriously say the exact same thing in the next game if you were human?
Topic Starter
Pasonia
Pasonia flung a dart from across the hotel lobby, the dart toppling and splashing a cup of hot coffee all over adam2046.

"Whoops. Guess I overdid it," blurted Pasonia, before exiting, stage left.

Amidst the frustration, adam2046 opened up the note attached to the dart, and it read:

Vote standings have been updated W(°0°)W
Rolled

Echo wrote:

So no one other than me sees that line as suspicious :/

IRC wrote:

14:52 < Echo> think it through
14:52 < Echo> imagine
14:52 < Echo> you said something on the first day
14:52 < Echo> which resulted in you getting lynched
14:53 < Echo> which you onnly just backed out of by fakeclaiming
14:53 < Echo> would you seriously say the exact same thing in the next game if you were human?
I may be able to see it as suspicious if I think about it hard enough, but probably not for the same reason as you. I'm aware that lurking in general, and not posting too much, is often a tell for wolves (I think you said that earlier), but calling Nardi out on that reason may be a bit of a stretch I think.

Although I do think it is about time Nardi comes in here and starts defending himself :X
adam2046
"I ORDERED DECAF YOU FREAK!"
nardii
You guys know some people live in different time zones, right? And I thought doing something as stupid as repeating my own mistakes wouldn't be taken seriously by anyone.
Echo
Well, you're here now, so start defending.
nardii
I have to leave in about 10 minutes though.

Not like I have much to defend me with anyway, all I can tell you is that I'm just a human that likes sarcasm a little too much.
Cuddlebun
Ah, falling back on what Rolled used as a possible excuse...how suspicious.

and no i'm not still resentful of you voting me for no reason
Echo
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adam2046
Well he is new...
Did you really have to vote him?
Mashley
Haha, I have a vote.
Anyway, because people think I'm suspicious, I'll say something that'll probably make me even more suspicious to other people.
I'm guardian angel.
And you should trust me, because if I'm killed you won't have anyone to save you from the wolves. :3
I'm going to trust my instincts here and Vote Echo
Rolled
Enjoy your nightkill ASH :|
Mashley
Sounds like fun.
nardii
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Mashley
I'm really stupid.
0_o
Wow, honestly, out of ALL of the roles to claim, you claim the only one who can't be protected at night...

I think my vote is settled now. If ASH isn't a wolf, he will likely die tonight, so whether he is lynched or not really won't make a difference. If he is a wolf, then obviously lynching him would be a good thing. So really, the worst thing that could happen is that we lynch someone who was going to die anyway. It's a neutral-win situation.

At least that's how my mind works. My vote for ASH stands.
Mashley
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0_o
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Olinad

0_o wrote:

Wow, honestly, out of ALL of the roles to claim, you claim the only one who can't be protected at night...

I think my vote is settled now. If ASH isn't a wolf, he will likely die tonight, so whether he is lynched or not really won't make a difference. If he is a wolf, then obviously lynching him would be a good thing. So really, the worst thing that could happen is that we lynch someone who was going to die anyway. It's a neutral-win situation.

At least that's how my mind works. My vote for ASH stands.
Well, the difference would be:
A) if we lynch ASH now, we may have killed a wolf - but maybe not... there's not much evidence, and he could just be kinda stupid revealing his role so early. Anyway, during the night the wolves would kill a sure citizen...
B) if we don't lynch ASH, he may be killed during the night (it means he's the guardian angel or a Vanilla) or stay alive (he may be a wolf or either a Vanilla or Aux other that the Guardian Angel, who defended him, or even the Guardian Angel itself, with a bit of luck :D

The problem is: who to lynch instead of him? There's no clue... so option A will be the most probable one.

Edit: i want to underline it's the one that has more possibility to happen, not the one I'd prefer...
Mashley
I plan to protect myself tonight.
Topic Starter
Pasonia
Pasonia learnt his lesson from overturning a cup of adam's coffee by accident.

This time, he resorted to a kamehameha, which he gladly unleashed on a poor car nearby. Echo, who happened to be at the open-air jacuzzi atop Pasonia (the jacuzzi is at Storey 10 of the Meridian Hotel) when he pulled his stunt, saw the message formed out of the car's engine, tyres, pipe and general debris, and wonder how it could have even been possible by a human.

It says: VOTE STANDINGS HAVE BEEN UPDATED AGAIN. GAME ENDS IN 23 HOURS.

Pasonia watched the debris form, and was about to smile when a spare tire started to roll and chase him. Beside him was Loginer, who was shocked into his birthday suit (his towel dropped) when he saw the tire roll.

Echo just stared at the hairy wonder afterwards. How long it lasted is a matter between the two.
nardii

Pasonia wrote:

It says: VOTE STANDINGS HAVE BEEN UPDATED AGAIN. GAME ENDS IN 23 HOURS.
You missed Echo unvoting me and voting m980.
Rolled
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Topic Starter
Pasonia

Rolled wrote:

I just want to clarify a few things. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

The guardian angel can protect themselves, right? And if they are protected and the wolves try to kill them, the wolves will not get a kill that night, being a wasted night for the wolves? And as long as the wolves attempt to night-kill the guardian angel every night, the GA can just continue to protect themselves the whole time? (I doubt this will happen, rhetorical question :P)

Example: ASH protects himself on night 1, wolves attempt to kill him. Total fatalities of day 1 = 1 lynch vote, 0 night kills.
Since ASH had a successful protection on night 1, he can then protect himself on night 2 as well?
Yes, theoretically speaking, the Guardian Angel CAN keep protecting himself from being killed. Trouble is, the wolves are more likely not to know if it was the GA guarding himself or him being guarded by another person. Also, the Guardian Angel will sometimes have his cover blown, so if shit happens don't say I didn't warn ya.
Rolled

Pasonia wrote:

Rolled wrote:

I just want to clarify a few things. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

The guardian angel can protect themselves, right? And if they are protected and the wolves try to kill them, the wolves will not get a kill that night, being a wasted night for the wolves? And as long as the wolves attempt to night-kill the guardian angel every night, the GA can just continue to protect themselves the whole time? (I doubt this will happen, rhetorical question :P)

Example: ASH protects himself on night 1, wolves attempt to kill him. Total fatalities of day 1 = 1 lynch vote, 0 night kills.
Since ASH had a successful protection on night 1, he can then protect himself on night 2 as well?
Yes, theoretically speaking, the Guardian Angel CAN keep protecting himself from being killed. Trouble is, the wolves are more likely not to know if it was the GA guarding himself or him being guarded by another person. Also, the Guardian Angel will sometimes have his cover blown, so if shit happens don't say I didn't warn ya.
Do you have some kind of randomizing C++ program to decide that for you too? :P
Topic Starter
Pasonia
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0_o
OK, with Rolled's post and the knowledge that the GA in fact can protect themselves, I think I'm willing to give ASH a shot (for today at least).

Unvote ASH

and after reading through the thread twice I couldn't find anything suspicious enough to get me to cast another vote. Though I am starting to wonder what's up with m980...
Rolled
Silence is very bad in this game.

A silent human doesn't benefit the community what so ever. A silent werewolf can just sit back and let everybody else kill each other while they take care of night kills.

Unless you know better..
YellowerYoshi
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