Changed Denmark's team, please update. :>
I think there are several good experienced players that are grown-up enough to not go around leaking the map list. If you still think you can't trust some of those you can just give them a... 40 maps list and tell them to give you their opinions, and from that you can somewhat decide on the 15 maps without telling anyone. Though I still think there is plenty of people who can actually be trusted, like if you're 22 years old I want to believe you're not that retarded.lepidopodus wrote:
Getting some nice professional players to participate can be a nice idea...Wishy22 wrote:
you get active somewhat skilled players...but well, just asking some players around is somewhat dangerous since the map list can be easly leaked before releasing. So we might be able to set some kind of advisor board before starting this tournament...?Wishy22 wrote:
pick them yourself + ask if they're ok with some players..
Haha \:D/ eliminated first round.zozozofun wrote:
Since some of the better dutch players won't participate we give a chance to the others of Holland who aren't as good as them!
Holland
Captain: zozozofun
Player 1: Big_ChilD
Player 2: VulcanicMoonCard
Player 3: Waiting
GMT + 1
More will join soon (probably)
A very interesting idea indeed. Never heard of it though, maybe I should have been more discerning about the tournament schemes. I'm still opened for all kinds of suggestions and if I see the proposed system is better than I thought up with, I will think about implementing it. Gonna talk it through with Lunah soon.Lybydose wrote:
Swiss pairings are used in M:tG tournaments (actually it's "modified" swiss, but I don't know the difference). Here's how it works:
8 teams = 3 rounds
9 - 16 teams = 4 rounds
17 - 32 teams = 5 rounds
...etc
All teams play every round (unless they want to drop out early).
Round 1 pairs everyone randomly with another team. Teams that win their match get 1 point, losers get 0 points.
Round 2 and on pairs each team with another random team that has the same number of points. Basically after round 1, you'll always be playing a team that's doing just as well (or as bad) as you.
After however many rounds, Top 8 teams play an elimination bracket.
This type of tournament is generally best suited for large tournaments though, since it lets you play out a 1024 player tournament in just 10 rounds, and lets you continue to double player numbers with just one additional round per doubling. This is probably why M:tG tournaments use it (in addition to the fact that it lets everyone play every round). A pool-based system with the "top teams" seeded to be in separate pools would probably be better for something smaller like this.
I have PM'd him already, sadly got no response yet. We're still looking for someone to stream matches of the tournament.r3yn41d0 wrote:
and 1 more question, will dvorak became the streamer of the 2nd osu! world cup,when the tournament is official ?
The staff is going to be composed of people with experiences in both mapping and playing. The reason the staff member list isn't posted yet is that we're still looking for certain trusted people to help. A responsible choosing like this takes some time.Wishy22 wrote:
And yeah I am a pain in the ass. But I seriously suggest you get active somewhat skilled players at the very least to suggest you what maps to pick for the tournament, or at least pick them yourself + ask if they're ok with some players. Please don't get 5/6 BATs that don't even play this game to choose bad maps like they did last time. Honestly you can be osu!'s staff and a great BAT but if you don't really play the game you have no idea what maps are really fun to play/liked.
And yeah, I read all of the posts and consider all of your suggestions.Wishy22 wrote:
Actually I have talked a bit with fartowik (a few PMs) and he isn't the kind of guy who's going around ignoring everyone and doing how he pleases, so I'm sure he's gonna read what we posted.
This hasn't been included in the rules, but yes, that's how it will look.Wishy22 wrote:
Maybe I have to like... learn to read. But when 2 teams play the maps would be chosen like this I guess, right?
Team A.
Team B.
Team B.
Team A.
Fixed map.
You're not. All teams play at least 3 matches.YodaSnipe wrote:
Plus teams that lose once aren't eliminated from the entire tourney (unless I am mistaken, then derp).
Agreed.GladiOol wrote:
Haha \:D/ eliminated first round.zozozofun wrote:
Since some of the better dutch players won't participate we give a chance to the others of Holland who aren't as good as them!
Holland
Captain: zozozofun
Player 1: Big_ChilD
Player 2: VulcanicMoonCard
Player 3: Waiting
GMT + 1
More will join soon (probably)
If not, I will eat my shoes ~~
Changes were made.Mikutard wrote:
Country name: Portugal
Captain: Mikutard
Player1: Makkura
Player2: Maraiga
Player3: Jonnythatjonny
Back-up Player1: Pereira006
Back-up Player2:
Time-Zone: Gmt +0 / Gmt -1
if that could be then count me in coz I didnt get in the normal german team (@meeting time I was not here)Neruell wrote:
+Blacky wrote:
If its possible I would like to join the german Team. Switzerland hasn't got enough... good players. And they aren't very activ. So if it's ok, I would like to join the germans.
Same question about Austria, last owc they were so few that they formed an other german team, can it be done again? (unless austria doesn't want/have enough ppl for their own team)
Yeah, sure, but where is the team.theowest wrote:
I'm captain for sweden
proof:SPOILER20:57 <kriers> : I want to see a Sweden team formed for owc!
20:58 <Saten-san> : Milk
20:58 <Gyuunyu> : Saten.
20:58 <Gyuunyu> : whats owc ?
20:59 <kriers> : osu! world cup
20:59 <kriers> : viewtopic.php?f=55&t=65535
20:59 <kriers> : go for it
21:00 <Gyuunyu> :
21:00 <PlasticSmoothie> : Yes! Please do form a team!
21:00 <Gyuunyu> : i dont want to be captain :s
21:00 <PlasticSmoothie> : Have someone else be captain then. :p
21:00 <PlasticSmoothie> : But we need the entire of Scandinavia represented!
21:00 <kriers> : yes
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : But who is going to be captain ?
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : Saten +1
21:01 <kriers> : saten for captain
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : or Theo +1 :>
21:01 <kriers> : why not
21:01 <kriers> : he'd want it
21:01 <theowest> : WHAT
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : But , wee need more players
21:01 <theowest> : OMG
21:01 <theowest> : I WANT!!!!!!
21:01 <theowest> : <33<<33<<33<<33
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : Yes
21:01 <theowest> : BECAUSE I LOVE THE MOST!
21:02 <Emaal> : Denmark already signed up! :3
21:02 <theowest> : AND SCANDI PEOPLE ARE HAPPY AND LOVERFUL
21:02 <Gyuunyu> : Wee nominate You , Theo To Swedens captain !
21:02 <PlasticSmoothie> : YES THEO. GO FORM SWEDISH TEAM NAO
21:02 <theowest> : YAAAAAAAAY
21:02 <kriers> : Norway too
21:02 <theowest> : WOHOOOOOOOOO
21:02 <kriers> : viewtopic.php?f=55&t=65535
21:02 <DennisGG> : SEJT
21:02 <theowest> : <3<33<3<3<<3<3
21:02 <DennisGG> : HVOR SEJT
21:02 <theowest> : I LOVE YOU ALL!! <3
21:02 <Emaal> : ohgod no
21:02 <PlasticSmoothie> : Aaaand Theo is overjoyed. :p
21:02 <DennisGG> : Nogle danskere der mangler en holdkammerat?
21:02 <Gyuunyu> : Wee love you to :>
21:02 <Emaal> : endnu en dansker. .___.'
They want me. I want.
_Angel wrote:
Country name: CCCP
Captain: 646kapeh064
Player1: _Angel
Player2: Mikota Misora
Player3: roJIoBa
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Back-up Player1: TBA
Back-up Player2: TBA
Time zone: GMT+2
'_Angel wrote:
Country name: CCCP
Captain: 646kapeh064
Player1: _Angel
Player2: Mikota Misora
Player3: roJIoBa
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Back-up Player1: TBA
Back-up Player2: TBA
Time zone: GMT+2
I'd consider it if that country would still exist, but it doesn't so stop trolling._Angel wrote:
we are from CCCP everyone
I lol'd but not a bad idea.Mikutard wrote:
Why not let them participate as USSR? If they cannot get enough players to participate as a country, it would be nice to let them.
I beg your pardon, dear sir?Mikutard wrote:
Why not let them participate as USSR? If they cannot get enough players to participate as a country, it would be nice to let them.
That wasnt about us, we got a team rememberr-Beatz wrote:
I beg your pardon, dear sir?Mikutard wrote:
Why not let them participate as USSR? If they cannot get enough players to participate as a country, it would be nice to let them.
Because Soviet Union has run out of mana. Enough with silly jokes, k?Mikutard wrote:
Why not let them participate as USSR? If they cannot get enough players to participate as a country, it would be nice to let them.
You're absolutely right. Latvia and Estonia simply don't have enough strong players to participate.Fumi-chan wrote:
I think the point is just for them to be able to play as a country and not a silly USSR joke.
So any country that doesn't have strong players to participate may ally with another country just for the sake of playing?gorlum wrote:
You're absolutely right. Latvia and Estonia simply don't have enough strong players to participate.Fumi-chan wrote:
I think the point is just for them to be able to play as a country and not a silly USSR joke.
There are exceptions. There are SOME players that nationalize for other countries. But there's never two countries joining up because they aren't strong enough to participate. That defeats the purpose of a world cup.JesusYamato wrote:
I participated for france last year.
Exactly, if their coutries don't have enough active players to participate, why not let them create a team that incorporates all of those countries?Fumi-chan wrote:
I think the point is just for them to be able to play as a country and not a silly USSR joke.
aren't strong enough ?Metro wrote:
There are exceptions. There are SOME players that nationalize for other countries. But there's never two countries joining up because they aren't strong enough to participate. That defeats the purpose of a world cup.JesusYamato wrote:
I participated for france last year.
Then I'm sorry that no one from your country plays osu. Pass the game on to your friends and have more people for the next owc._Angel wrote:
Do you think it's possible to found 4 active players in lv, who want to play in tournament, even if they aren't strong?
16. Indonesiaits gatitoneku :3
Player3: lgatitoneku
Post edited... still checking for backups...Neruell wrote:
Country name: Germany
Captain: Neruell
Player1: Shael
Player2: Blacky (Was allowed to participate for the german team due to this)
Player3: ShadowSoul
- - - - - - - - - -
Backup 1: [on hold]
Backup 2: [on hold]
Time zone: GMT +1
P.S. Will add more players very soon...
So why _Angel can't participate for Russian team? Latvia "has no active player" too.Neruell wrote:
Post edited... still checking for backups...Neruell wrote:
Country name: Germany
Captain: Neruell
Player1: Shael
Player2: Blacky (Was allowed to participate for the german team due to this)
Player3: ShadowSoul
- - - - - - - - - -
Backup 1: [on hold]
Backup 2: [on hold]
Time zone: GMT +1
P.S. Will add more players very soon...
I didn't say he/she can't participate for Russia. I said you can't have teams with mixed country players. If you wanted _Angel being able to participate for Russia you should've asked me via PM or in-game, I'd think it up like I did for Blacky from Switzerland. Ofc, you preferred troll instead.Jaffar wrote:
So why _Angel can't participate for Russian team? Latvia "has no active player" too.
So this is why players from smaller countries aren't allowed to participate in this world cup?fartownik wrote:
Of course, I'd prefer if you sign-up with Russian players only. Your player base is pretty huge and it's not that needed to look for players abroad.
Who said they're not allowed? If they would really like to they'd just set up a team of their own. This is a World Cup, country vs country, nationality matters the most. Also I didn't decide that _Angel can't play for Russia. I just said it's preferred for the team to be all same nationality, they will decide what they want to do.Blue Dragon wrote:
So this is why players from smaller countries aren't allowed to participate in this world cup?fartownik wrote:
Of course, I'd prefer if you sign-up with Russian players only. Your player base is pretty huge and it's not that needed to look for players abroad.
I'm sorry but this is pure bullshit.
Player addedzozozofun wrote:
Since some of the better dutch players won't participate we give a chance to the others of Holland who aren't as good as them!
Holland
Captain: zozozofun
Player 1: Henkie
Player 2: laport
Player 3: happy30
Backup player 1: Big_ChilD
GMT + 1
More will join soon (probably)
What's hard to understand, a player can be added to another country team (this for help nice players from small countries to play), example belgium -> france (same language and there are not enough players from belgium), naturally respecting a criteria , this doesn't mean that people can "combine" contries for make a new team, example I am gonna say "I'll make a team of switzerland and italy and I'll call it switaly", nope.Blue Dragon wrote:
So this is why players from smaller countries aren't allowed to participate in this world cup?
I'm sorry but this is pure bullshit.
What about Nigeria and Japan? It'd still be Nippon :S.Lunah wrote:
What's hard to understand, a player can be added to another country team (this for helping nice players from small countries to play), example belgium -> france (same language and there are not enough players from belgium), naturally respecting a criteria , this doesn't mean that people can "combine" contries for make a new team, example I am gonna say "I'll make a team of switzerland and italy and I'll call it switaly", nope.Blue Dragon wrote:
So this is why players from smaller countries aren't allowed to participate in this world cup?
I'm sorry but this is pure bullshit.
What the hell, that's a really stupid mistake. Sorry, the flags always mix upRantai wrote:
Oh hey Australia is... wait a minute that's a New Zealand team!
Just wanted to point that out for technicality sake.
Now that's better.zozozofun wrote:
Since some of the better dutch players won't participate we give a chance to the others of Holland who aren't as good as them!
Holland
Captain: zozozofun
Player 1: Henkie
Player 2: laport
Player 3: happy30
Backup player 1: Big_ChilD
GMT + 1
More will join soon (probably)
go go win the OWC this time <3~KRZY wrote:
Country name: Republic of Korea
Captain: KRZY
Player1: M A I D
Player2: Reisen Udongein
Player3: TBA
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Back-up Player1: TBA
Back-up Player2: TBA
Time zone: GMT+8
Great logo design by the way, absolutely wonderful.
lolwut?! where is cookieKRZY wrote:
Country name: Republic of Korea
Captain: KRZY
Player1: M A I D
Player2: Reisen Udongein
Player3: TBA
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Back-up Player1: TBA
Back-up Player2: TBA
Time zone: GMT+8
Great logo design by the way, absolutely wonderful.
kriers wrote:
Norway, Sweden and Denmark are kinda alike. I mean, we even share our channel together. Even so, we're participating as 3 different teams altogether. That makes it amusing Germany has to get players from somewhere else, France can take players Belgium etc.
It's not like this rule applies anywhere else, and small countries kinda has to deal with it anyhow...
My point is, I think the rule where smaller countries can join together, or players can suddenly participate for a neighbouring country is too kind.
After a talk with Vpalach I decided not to put Russia on the list yet. You didn't contact most of better players from your country and just submitted a team, that's not really fair isn't it? I'm gonna wait for a team composed with the best players as possible.646kapeh064 wrote:
Country name: Russian Federation
Captain: Akai-
Player1: Jaffar
Player2: 646kapeh064
Player3: _Angel
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Back-up Player1: funshine
Back-up Player2: cr1m
GMT+4
He doesn't want to play or something. :culjjang wrote:
lolwut?! where is cookie
He just don't want to get trolled by some people who just want to ruin things for the sake of ruining._Angel wrote:
is this tournament for players, who fartownik want to see in only?
gj
Your so-called "Vpalach and other better players" refused to participate on previous tournament because that was inconvenient for them and i'm absolutely can't understand why they're making their demands now and you're actually accepting this. Some players from previous tournament, as Akai for example wants to participate again. They have their own community of strong players and Vpalach have nothing to do with that. I'm sure that your Vpalach just messing around with that kind of claims, and since they've already made a team you should accept them for tournament.fartownik wrote:
After a talk with Vpalach I decided not to put Russia on the list yet. You didn't contact most of better players from your country and just submitted a team, that's not really fair isn't it? I'm gonna wait for a team composed with the best players as possible.
Sigh, they're not some random players, but actually one of the best russian players. Stop talking bullshit, bro.Wishy22 wrote:
If you're from a country that has good players you can't go and sign-up with a team full of random players that can't even compare to the good ones. This is a WORLD CUP and the best players from each country are supposed to be able to play, you can't just go and leave them out because some random guys want to play too. It's like some 4 random guys from Korea come and make a team and leave idk Reisen and KRZY out...
What is the point? They've already gathered the best setup.Mr Color wrote:
Just make a thread in the Russian forum asking who wants to participate in the owc for Russia and just take the best players that sign up...
First off, to see if everyone agrees with said setup and second to render things more official, apparently the team was created in a rush according to previous posts.gorlum wrote:
What is the point? They've already gathered the best setup.Mr Color wrote:
Just make a thread in the Russian forum asking who wants to participate in the owc for Russia and just take the best players that sign up...
Okay, lets just imagine. We've posted that. Some random trolls and "better players" do not agree with that setup. What's next? Disband a team and let this "better players" to play instead just because they suddenly wanted to? It's sounds odd, isn't it?Mr Color wrote:
First off, to see if everyone agrees with said setup and second to render things more official, apparently the team was created in a rush according to previous posts.
Besides, it's never a bad idea to inform people about the owc.