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#2 osu! World Cup (Team vs) [Korea wins]

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Lybydose
Swiss pairings are used in M:tG tournaments (actually it's "modified" swiss, but I don't know the difference). Here's how it works:

8 teams = 3 rounds
9 - 16 teams = 4 rounds
17 - 32 teams = 5 rounds
...etc

All teams play every round (unless they want to drop out early).

Round 1 pairs everyone randomly with another team. Teams that win their match get 1 point, losers get 0 points.
Round 2 and on pairs each team with another random team that has the same number of points. Basically after round 1, you'll always be playing a team that's doing just as well (or as bad) as you.

After however many rounds, Top 8 teams play an elimination bracket.

This type of tournament is generally best suited for large tournaments though, since it lets you play out a 1024 player tournament in just 10 rounds, and lets you continue to double player numbers with just one additional round per doubling. This is probably why M:tG tournaments use it (in addition to the fact that it lets everyone play every round). A pool-based system with the "top teams" seeded to be in separate pools would probably be better for something smaller like this.
YodaSnipe
Metro and Wishy22 have very good ideas/points there. Hopefully they don't get ignored, or at least hopefully they have good reasons not to host it this way, and actually tell us what those reasons are :D
Wishy
Actually I have talked a bit with fartowik (a few PMs) and he isn't the kind of guy who's going around ignoring everyone and doing how he pleases, so I'm sure he's gonna read what we posted.
Rey Fullbuster
and 1 more question, will dvorak became the streamer of the 2nd osu! world cup,when the tournament is official ?
Wishy
And yeah I am a pain in the ass. But I seriously suggest you get active somewhat skilled players at the very least to suggest you what maps to pick for the tournament, or at least pick them yourself + ask if they're ok with some players. Please don't get 5/6 BATs that don't even play this game to choose bad maps like they did last time. Honestly you can be osu!'s staff and a great BAT but if you don't really play the game you have no idea what maps are really fun to play/liked.
lepidopodus

Wishy22 wrote:

you get active somewhat skilled players
Getting some nice professional players to participate can be a nice idea...

Wishy22 wrote:

pick them yourself + ask if they're ok with some players..
...but well, just asking some players around is somewhat dangerous since the map list can be easly leaked before releasing. So we might be able to set some kind of advisor board before starting this tournament...?
zozozofun
Since some of the better dutch players won't participate we give a chance to the others of Holland who aren't as good as them!

Holland

Captain: zozozofun
Player 1: Big_ChilD
Player 2: Waiting
Player 3: Waiting

GMT + 1

More will join soon (probably)
maal
Changed Denmark's team, please update. :>
Wishy

lepidopodus wrote:

Wishy22 wrote:

you get active somewhat skilled players
Getting some nice professional players to participate can be a nice idea...

Wishy22 wrote:

pick them yourself + ask if they're ok with some players..
...but well, just asking some players around is somewhat dangerous since the map list can be easly leaked before releasing. So we might be able to set some kind of advisor board before starting this tournament...?
I think there are several good experienced players that are grown-up enough to not go around leaking the map list. If you still think you can't trust some of those you can just give them a... 40 maps list and tell them to give you their opinions, and from that you can somewhat decide on the 15 maps without telling anyone. Though I still think there is plenty of people who can actually be trusted, like if you're 22 years old I want to believe you're not that retarded.

Maybe I have to like... learn to read. But when 2 teams play the maps would be chosen like this I guess, right?

Team A.
Team B.
Team B.
Team A.
Fixed map.
GladiOol

zozozofun wrote:

Since some of the better dutch players won't participate we give a chance to the others of Holland who aren't as good as them!

Holland

Captain: zozozofun
Player 1: Big_ChilD
Player 2: VulcanicMoonCard
Player 3: Waiting

GMT + 1

More will join soon (probably)
Haha \:D/ eliminated first round.
If not, I will eat my shoes ~~
Topic Starter
fartownik

Lybydose wrote:

Swiss pairings are used in M:tG tournaments (actually it's "modified" swiss, but I don't know the difference). Here's how it works:

8 teams = 3 rounds
9 - 16 teams = 4 rounds
17 - 32 teams = 5 rounds
...etc

All teams play every round (unless they want to drop out early).

Round 1 pairs everyone randomly with another team. Teams that win their match get 1 point, losers get 0 points.
Round 2 and on pairs each team with another random team that has the same number of points. Basically after round 1, you'll always be playing a team that's doing just as well (or as bad) as you.

After however many rounds, Top 8 teams play an elimination bracket.

This type of tournament is generally best suited for large tournaments though, since it lets you play out a 1024 player tournament in just 10 rounds, and lets you continue to double player numbers with just one additional round per doubling. This is probably why M:tG tournaments use it (in addition to the fact that it lets everyone play every round). A pool-based system with the "top teams" seeded to be in separate pools would probably be better for something smaller like this.
A very interesting idea indeed. Never heard of it though, maybe I should have been more discerning about the tournament schemes. I'm still opened for all kinds of suggestions and if I see the proposed system is better than I thought up with, I will think about implementing it. Gonna talk it through with Lunah soon.

r3yn41d0 wrote:

and 1 more question, will dvorak became the streamer of the 2nd osu! world cup,when the tournament is official ?
I have PM'd him already, sadly got no response yet. We're still looking for someone to stream matches of the tournament.

Wishy22 wrote:

And yeah I am a pain in the ass. But I seriously suggest you get active somewhat skilled players at the very least to suggest you what maps to pick for the tournament, or at least pick them yourself + ask if they're ok with some players. Please don't get 5/6 BATs that don't even play this game to choose bad maps like they did last time. Honestly you can be osu!'s staff and a great BAT but if you don't really play the game you have no idea what maps are really fun to play/liked.
The staff is going to be composed of people with experiences in both mapping and playing. The reason the staff member list isn't posted yet is that we're still looking for certain trusted people to help. A responsible choosing like this takes some time.

Wishy22 wrote:

Actually I have talked a bit with fartowik (a few PMs) and he isn't the kind of guy who's going around ignoring everyone and doing how he pleases, so I'm sure he's gonna read what we posted.
And yeah, I read all of the posts and consider all of your suggestions.

Wishy22 wrote:

Maybe I have to like... learn to read. But when 2 teams play the maps would be chosen like this I guess, right?

Team A.
Team B.
Team B.
Team A.
Fixed map.
This hasn't been included in the rules, but yes, that's how it will look.
Wishy
There are lots of schemes you can apply to tournament. In this case you gonna have just a few teams so the best possible idea is to apply something like what's applied to soccer world cups. 8 groups made out of 4 teams, where only two will pass to the next phase, and by having groups like this of course you take the advantage of putting apart each pro team so not only you avoid getting China Vs. Japan in the first rounds, but get even the average teams to have fun playing against people like them and why not, a chance to get somewhere in the tournament too. :d
YodaSnipe
Plus teams that lose once aren't eliminated from the entire tourney (unless I am mistaken, then derp).

:D
Metro

YodaSnipe wrote:

Plus teams that lose once aren't eliminated from the entire tourney (unless I am mistaken, then derp).

:D
You're not. All teams play at least 3 matches.
NatsumeRin
Supporting Swiss pairing here. If you'd like to hold it 8 or 9 rounds you could easily get a rank of all joined team. The final score could be calculated as: C=10A+B
A=the score they get (win=1, lose=0)
B=the total score of their opponents
why we need a B here is if two team has the same score, we could still judge them by the opponents they have. Also, if some team drops out halfway, their opponents could get a free point, but no "opponent point" for them.

However, a Swiss pairing OWC won't be that exciting: (people won't concentrate that much on semi-final/final... in fact in this way we don't have one), so just as Lyby said, separate the match into 2 stages.

Stage 1: a Swiss paring qualifying, you also don't need to set a team number limit like 32... 5~7 rounds here (consider there won't be 64 contries but probably would have 32). Then make the top 8 countries to the next stage.

Stage 2: Elimination. something like NBA playoffs (1-8, 2-7, 3-6, 4-5) or just random pairing, whatever.

The "not so good" teams could usually enjoy playing a game with another team with similar level players at stage 1. Also it gives the pro teams much more chance so they can probably go to stage 2, that's better than "seed team".

Then let's enjoy the top 8 elimination, would be exciting and fun.

About map choosing for the two stages:

Stage 1: I think in this part, we should try to "make all players have fun", so in 5~7 rounds, i'll suggest something like "themed chart". Round 1 Touhou, Round 2 IIDX, Round3 Vocaloid etc. Pick 15 maps for each round would be enough, but pick 90 maps for the whole stage 1 would be orz.

Stage 2: Try to get some pro players' opinion and pick competitive maps (easy to miss/hard to get high acc/etc), that doesn't mean to pick maps like OWC #1 though, i think we all know where is the line.
zozozofun

GladiOol wrote:

zozozofun wrote:

Since some of the better dutch players won't participate we give a chance to the others of Holland who aren't as good as them!

Holland

Captain: zozozofun
Player 1: Big_ChilD
Player 2: VulcanicMoonCard
Player 3: Waiting

GMT + 1

More will join soon (probably)
Haha \:D/ eliminated first round.
If not, I will eat my shoes ~~
Agreed.
Ryu_old
ANd How should create team of your country? o.o
Wishy
Just make the 8 groups system, otherwise then again you get all pro teams win the first round against bad teams and face each other in the second round already, I understand they're not out of the game if they lose there but it still would be pretty lame imo to get the most interesting matches so early.
creativ_old

Mikutard wrote:

Country name: Portugal
Captain: Mikutard
Player1: Makkura
Player2: Maraiga
Player3: Jonnythatjonny

Back-up Player1: Pereira006
Back-up Player2:

Time-Zone: Gmt +0 / Gmt -1
Changes were made.
fabriciorby
@fartownik

that change, kenshin himura to katsuri
theowest
I'm captain for sweden

proof:

SPOILER
20:57 <kriers> : I want to see a Sweden team formed for owc!
20:58 <Saten-san> : Milk
20:58 <Gyuunyu> : Saten.
20:58 <Gyuunyu> : whats owc ?
20:59 <kriers> : osu! world cup
20:59 <kriers> : viewtopic.php?f=55&t=65535
20:59 <kriers> : go for it
21:00 <Gyuunyu> : :o
21:00 <PlasticSmoothie> : Yes! Please do form a team!
21:00 <Gyuunyu> : i dont want to be captain :s
21:00 <PlasticSmoothie> : Have someone else be captain then. :p
21:00 <PlasticSmoothie> : But we need the entire of Scandinavia represented!
21:00 <kriers> : yes
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : But who is going to be captain ?
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : Saten +1
21:01 <kriers> : saten for captain
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : or Theo +1 :>
21:01 <kriers> : why not
21:01 <kriers> : he'd want it
21:01 <theowest> : WHAT
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : But , wee need more players
21:01 <theowest> : OMG
21:01 <theowest> : I WANT!!!!!!
21:01 <theowest> : <33<<33<<33<<33
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : Yes
21:01 <theowest> : BECAUSE I LOVE THE MOST!
21:02 <Emaal> : Denmark already signed up! :3
21:02 <theowest> : AND SCANDI PEOPLE ARE HAPPY AND LOVERFUL
21:02 <Gyuunyu> : Wee nominate You , Theo To Swedens captain !
21:02 <PlasticSmoothie> : YES THEO. GO FORM SWEDISH TEAM NAO
21:02 <theowest> : YAAAAAAAAY
21:02 <kriers> : Norway too
21:02 <theowest> : WOHOOOOOOOOO
21:02 <kriers> : viewtopic.php?f=55&t=65535
21:02 <DennisGG> : SEJT
21:02 <theowest> : <3<33<3<3<<3<3
21:02 <DennisGG> : HVOR SEJT
21:02 <theowest> : I LOVE YOU ALL!! <3
21:02 <Emaal> : ohgod no
21:02 <PlasticSmoothie> : Aaaand Theo is overjoyed. :p
21:02 <DennisGG> : Nogle danskere der mangler en holdkammerat? ;)
21:02 <Gyuunyu> : Wee love you to :>
21:02 <Emaal> : endnu en dansker. .___.'

They want me. I want.
My1_old

Neruell wrote:

Blacky wrote:

If its possible I would like to join the german Team. Switzerland hasn't got enough... good players. And they aren't very activ. So if it's ok, I would like to join the germans :).
+

Same question about Austria, last owc they were so few that they formed an other german team, can it be done again? (unless austria doesn't want/have enough ppl for their own team)
if that could be then count me in coz I didnt get in the normal german team (@meeting time I was not here)
Anroys
Where is the polish team fartownik? O:
Gorlum
Ukraine is coming!
Country name: Ukraine
Captain: gorlum
Player1: rockleejkooо
Player2: uljjang
Player3: TBA
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: TBA
Back-up Player2: TBA

Time zone: GMT+2
_Angel
Country name: USSR
Captain: 646kapeh064
Player1: _Angel
Player2: Mikota Misora
Player3: roJIoBa
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: TBA
Back-up Player2: TBA

Time zone: GMT+2
boat

theowest wrote:

I'm captain for sweden

proof:

SPOILER
20:57 <kriers> : I want to see a Sweden team formed for owc!
20:58 <Saten-san> : Milk
20:58 <Gyuunyu> : Saten.
20:58 <Gyuunyu> : whats owc ?
20:59 <kriers> : osu! world cup
20:59 <kriers> : viewtopic.php?f=55&t=65535
20:59 <kriers> : go for it
21:00 <Gyuunyu> : :o
21:00 <PlasticSmoothie> : Yes! Please do form a team!
21:00 <Gyuunyu> : i dont want to be captain :s
21:00 <PlasticSmoothie> : Have someone else be captain then. :p
21:00 <PlasticSmoothie> : But we need the entire of Scandinavia represented!
21:00 <kriers> : yes
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : But who is going to be captain ?
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : Saten +1
21:01 <kriers> : saten for captain
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : or Theo +1 :>
21:01 <kriers> : why not
21:01 <kriers> : he'd want it
21:01 <theowest> : WHAT
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : But , wee need more players
21:01 <theowest> : OMG
21:01 <theowest> : I WANT!!!!!!
21:01 <theowest> : <33<<33<<33<<33
21:01 <Gyuunyu> : Yes
21:01 <theowest> : BECAUSE I LOVE THE MOST!
21:02 <Emaal> : Denmark already signed up! :3
21:02 <theowest> : AND SCANDI PEOPLE ARE HAPPY AND LOVERFUL
21:02 <Gyuunyu> : Wee nominate You , Theo To Swedens captain !
21:02 <PlasticSmoothie> : YES THEO. GO FORM SWEDISH TEAM NAO
21:02 <theowest> : YAAAAAAAAY
21:02 <kriers> : Norway too
21:02 <theowest> : WOHOOOOOOOOO
21:02 <kriers> : viewtopic.php?f=55&t=65535
21:02 <DennisGG> : SEJT
21:02 <theowest> : <3<33<3<3<<3<3
21:02 <DennisGG> : HVOR SEJT
21:02 <theowest> : I LOVE YOU ALL!! <3
21:02 <Emaal> : ohgod no
21:02 <PlasticSmoothie> : Aaaand Theo is overjoyed. :p
21:02 <DennisGG> : Nogle danskere der mangler en holdkammerat? ;)
21:02 <Gyuunyu> : Wee love you to :>
21:02 <Emaal> : endnu en dansker. .___.'

They want me. I want.
Yeah, sure, but where is the team.
Gorlum

_Angel wrote:

Country name: CCCP
Captain: 646kapeh064
Player1: _Angel
Player2: Mikota Misora
Player3: roJIoBa
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: TBA
Back-up Player2: TBA

Time zone: GMT+2
_Angel
gurlum cool joke
Topic Starter
fartownik

_Angel wrote:

Country name: CCCP
Captain: 646kapeh064
Player1: _Angel
Player2: Mikota Misora
Player3: roJIoBa
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: TBA
Back-up Player2: TBA

Time zone: GMT+2
'

Mixed-country teams are not allowed.
Also stop spamming with those random images, this thread was made to post feedbacks and to be informative.
_Angel
we are from CCCP everyone :D
My1_old
what is CCCP anyway???
_Angel
USSR lol
Topic Starter
fartownik

_Angel wrote:

we are from CCCP everyone :D
I'd consider it if that country would still exist, but it doesn't so stop trolling.
Learn to read the rules.
EOT
_Angel
Country name: Latvia
Captain: _Angel
Player1: -
Player2: -
Player3: -
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: -
Back-up Player2: -
GMT+2

kapehh
Country name: Russian Federation
Captain: Akai-
Player1: Jaffar
Player2: 646kapeh064
Player3: _Angel
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: funshine
Back-up Player2: cr1m

GMT+4
Yuno
Country name: Estonia
Captain: Mikota Misora
Player1: -
Player2: -
Player3: -
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: -
Back-up Player2: -

GMT+2

Pizzicato
rofl at the 3 posts above me.
YodaSnipe
^ that
-Soba-
I'll be a back up for US /crosses fingers with 0 expectations lol
Orkel
I hope this tournament has more new maps, I have somewhat bad memories of playing some crappy old maps in the last tournament.
FullFr0z
AGUANTE CHACA VIEJA.
Misuzu-san
Viet Nam :
Captain : Misuzu-san
Player 1 : JerryC
Player 2 : Kitsuyuki
Player 3 : BridgetteLSatellizer

Back-up Player 1 : xLightningx
Back-up Player 2 : kira_lacus1995
GMT +7
Lunah_old
Please guys.. post only if you need to add/update your team, or if you need to ask a question related to the tournament,



also here italian team


Captain: Lunah
Player1: Chewin
Player2:
Player3:
--------------------------
Back-up Player1:
Back-up Player2:

GMT+1 (EU-Rome)

I'll update our team soon (we're still choosing other players), just holding the slot =P
deadbeat
New Zealand
Captain: deadbeat
Player 1: jiantz
Player 2: numot123
Player 3: bob_the_cat
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Backup 1: Kiiwa
Backup 2: none but possible

GMT +13(day lights savings >.<)

we still having a talk about everything. but that's how it is atm :)

EDIT: forgot timezone. whoops
Pizzicato
Philippines will be joining as well


Captain: C L O U D
Player1: dayun10
Player2: jannnnnn
Player3: Pizzicatto
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: Osu Tatakae Ouendan
Back-up Player2: usagijirosan

GMT +8

This ain't final
mochi
go canada!
Flanster

Country name: Bulgaria
Captain: Lolicore Flandre
Player1: r-Beats
Player2: Orihara Izaya
Player3: las7h0p3

--------------------------
Back-up Player1: werewolf0girl
Back-up Player2: ColdChester

Time Zone:
GMT+2
creativ_old
Why not let them participate as USSR? If they cannot get enough players to participate as a country, it would be nice to let them.
Flanster

Mikutard wrote:

Why not let them participate as USSR? If they cannot get enough players to participate as a country, it would be nice to let them.
I lol'd but not a bad idea.
Though I wouldnt participate for another country
theowest
Sweden

Captain: theowest
Player1: failboat < - not sure about him.
Player2: Nekoo[]
Player3: Gyuunyu
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: Awaiting response..
Back-up Player2: Awaiting response..

Time-Zone: GMT+1
r-Beatz

Mikutard wrote:

Why not let them participate as USSR? If they cannot get enough players to participate as a country, it would be nice to let them.
I beg your pardon, dear sir?
Flanster

r-Beatz wrote:

Mikutard wrote:

Why not let them participate as USSR? If they cannot get enough players to participate as a country, it would be nice to let them.
I beg your pardon, dear sir?
That wasnt about us, we got a team remember ;)
Galkan

Mikutard wrote:

Why not let them participate as USSR? If they cannot get enough players to participate as a country, it would be nice to let them.
Because Soviet Union has run out of mana. Enough with silly jokes, k?
Fumi-chan
I think the point is just for them to be able to play as a country and not a silly USSR joke.
Gorlum

Fumi-chan wrote:

I think the point is just for them to be able to play as a country and not a silly USSR joke.
You're absolutely right. Latvia and Estonia simply don't have enough strong players to participate.
Metro

gorlum wrote:

Fumi-chan wrote:

I think the point is just for them to be able to play as a country and not a silly USSR joke.
You're absolutely right. Latvia and Estonia simply don't have enough strong players to participate.
So any country that doesn't have strong players to participate may ally with another country just for the sake of playing?

No. This is not how a world cup is supposed to be.
Waryas
I participated for france last year.
Metro

JesusYamato wrote:

I participated for france last year.
There are exceptions. There are SOME players that nationalize for other countries. But there's never two countries joining up because they aren't strong enough to participate. That defeats the purpose of a world cup.
GladiOol
Spain/France/England/Germany all used to controll NL back in the ol' days.

Can I join their teams?!?111
creativ_old

Fumi-chan wrote:

I think the point is just for them to be able to play as a country and not a silly USSR joke.
Exactly, if their coutries don't have enough active players to participate, why not let them create a team that incorporates all of those countries?

I didn't mean to make the early sentence a joke by the way.
Topic Starter
fartownik
I already said it won't happen so why you continue this topic?
Stop trolling and treat my work with at least a bit of respect.
Wishy
We should just wait for every country with enough players to sign up here and then start talking about this...
_Angel

Metro wrote:

JesusYamato wrote:

I participated for france last year.
There are exceptions. There are SOME players that nationalize for other countries. But there's never two countries joining up because they aren't strong enough to participate. That defeats the purpose of a world cup.
aren't strong enough ?

Do you think it's possible to found 4 active players in lv, who want to play in tournament, even if they aren't strong?
Metro

_Angel wrote:

Do you think it's possible to found 4 active players in lv, who want to play in tournament, even if they aren't strong?
Then I'm sorry that no one from your country plays osu. Pass the game on to your friends and have more people for the next owc.
Hakeru
Country : Indonesia
Captain: Hakeru Prismriver
Player1: xeqta
Player2: dNextGen
Player3: gatitoneku
--------------------------
Back-up Player1: awell
Back-up Player2: awesomewithin

Timezone : GMT +7
Topic Starter
fartownik
After 2 days of sign-ups we've fulfilled a half of the slots amount, 16. 9 teams are from Europe, 3 from America, 3 from Asia and 1 from Oceania. I'm glad the tournament got such a good frequency so far!

I think I might be able to help you find the hidden gold!
Dai
16. Indonesia
Player3: lgatitoneku
its gatitoneku :3
maay
cap: maay
player 1: Z e o n
player 2: GonixZ
player 3: -
---------------
backup 1: -
backup 2: -

Will edit this in a couple of days

oh, sorry, our time zone is GMT -3
Neruell

Neruell wrote:

Country name: Germany

Captain: Neruell
Player1: Shael
Player2: Blacky (Was allowed to participate for the german team due to this)
Player3: ShadowSoul

- - - - - - - - - -

Backup 1: [on hold]
Backup 2: [on hold]

Time zone: GMT +1

P.S. Will add more players very soon...
Post edited... still checking for backups...
Lunah_old
already 16 teams! :3 awesome
Jaffar

Neruell wrote:

Neruell wrote:

Country name: Germany

Captain: Neruell
Player1: Shael
Player2: Blacky (Was allowed to participate for the german team due to this)
Player3: ShadowSoul

- - - - - - - - - -

Backup 1: [on hold]
Backup 2: [on hold]

Time zone: GMT +1

P.S. Will add more players very soon...
Post edited... still checking for backups...
So why _Angel can't participate for Russian team? Latvia "has no active player" too.
Pizzicato
add dayun10 to our roster please
Topic Starter
fartownik

Jaffar wrote:

So why _Angel can't participate for Russian team? Latvia "has no active player" too.
I didn't say he/she can't participate for Russia. I said you can't have teams with mixed country players. If you wanted _Angel being able to participate for Russia you should've asked me via PM or in-game, I'd think it up like I did for Blacky from Switzerland. Ofc, you preferred troll instead.

In a participating country there can't be more than 1 player from another country. It's all case-related, not everyone can just sign-up with an additional 1 person with other nationality than the teams'.

Of course, I'd prefer if you sign-up with Russian players only. Your player base is pretty huge and it's not that needed to look for players abroad.
Shiro
France

  • Captain: Maestro
    Player 1: _LRJ_
    Player 2: Kanna
    Player 3:

    Backup 1: galvenize
    Backup2: Odaril
Temporary team. The real team will be made by next week.
Froslass

fartownik wrote:

Of course, I'd prefer if you sign-up with Russian players only. Your player base is pretty huge and it's not that needed to look for players abroad.
So this is why players from smaller countries aren't allowed to participate in this world cup?

I'm sorry but this is pure bullshit.
Topic Starter
fartownik

Blue Dragon wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Of course, I'd prefer if you sign-up with Russian players only. Your player base is pretty huge and it's not that needed to look for players abroad.
So this is why players from smaller countries aren't allowed to participate in this world cup?

I'm sorry but this is pure bullshit.
Who said they're not allowed? If they would really like to they'd just set up a team of their own. This is a World Cup, country vs country, nationality matters the most. Also I didn't decide that _Angel can't play for Russia. I just said it's preferred for the team to be all same nationality, they will decide what they want to do.
zozozofun

zozozofun wrote:

Since some of the better dutch players won't participate we give a chance to the others of Holland who aren't as good as them!

Holland

Captain: zozozofun
Player 1: Henkie
Player 2: laport
Player 3: happy30

Backup player 1: Big_ChilD

GMT + 1

More will join soon (probably)
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kapehh
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Lunah_old

Blue Dragon wrote:

So this is why players from smaller countries aren't allowed to participate in this world cup?

I'm sorry but this is pure bullshit.
What's hard to understand, a player can be added to another country team (this for help nice players from small countries to play), example belgium -> france (same language and there are not enough players from belgium), naturally respecting a criteria , this doesn't mean that people can "combine" contries for make a new team, example I am gonna say "I'll make a team of switzerland and italy and I'll call it switaly", nope.
Metro

Lunah wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

So this is why players from smaller countries aren't allowed to participate in this world cup?

I'm sorry but this is pure bullshit.
What's hard to understand, a player can be added to another country team (this for helping nice players from small countries to play), example belgium -> france (same language and there are not enough players from belgium), naturally respecting a criteria , this doesn't mean that people can "combine" contries for make a new team, example I am gonna say "I'll make a team of switzerland and italy and I'll call it switaly", nope.
What about Nigeria and Japan? It'd still be Nippon :S.
Wishy
NIgeria + niPPON = Nippon OH YES WAY TO GO NIGERIA.
Rantai
Oh hey Australia is... wait a minute that's a New Zealand team!

Just wanted to point that out for technicality sake.
Topic Starter
fartownik

Rantai wrote:

Oh hey Australia is... wait a minute that's a New Zealand team!

Just wanted to point that out for technicality sake.
What the hell, that's a really stupid mistake. Sorry, the flags always mix up :D
Fixed.
theowest
Update

Sweden

Captain: theowest
Player1: Holmir
Player2: Nekoo[]
Player3: Gyuunyu
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Back-up Player1: <strong>m4w11</strong>
Back-up Player2: failboat

Time-Zone: GMT+1
zozozofun
Since some of the better dutch players won't participate I thought we should give a chance to the others of Holland who aren't as good as them!

Holland

Captain: zozozofun
Player 1: Henkie
Player 2: laport
Player 3: happy30

Backup player 1: Big_ChilD

GMT + 1

More will join soon (probably)
Froslass

zozozofun wrote:

Since some of the better dutch players won't participate we give a chance to the others of Holland who aren't as good as them!

Holland

Captain: zozozofun
Player 1: Henkie
Player 2: laport
Player 3: happy30

Backup player 1: Big_ChilD

GMT + 1

More will join soon (probably)
Now that's better.


inb4 henkie rage because of maplist
kapehh
Country name: Russian Federation
Captain: Akai-
Player1: Jaffar
Player2: 646kapeh064
Player3: _Angel
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Back-up Player1: funshine
Back-up Player2: cr1m

GMT+4
_Angel
fartownik,
so i'll play for russian team, ok? \ o /
KRZY
Country name: Republic of Korea
Captain: KRZY
Player1: M A I D
Player2: Reisen Udongein
Player3: TBA
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Back-up Player1: TBA
Back-up Player2: TBA

Time zone: GMT+8


Great logo design by the way, absolutely wonderful.
YodaSnipe
^ oh god
ririco

KRZY wrote:

Country name: Republic of Korea
Captain: KRZY
Player1: M A I D
Player2: Reisen Udongein
Player3: TBA
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Back-up Player1: TBA
Back-up Player2: TBA

Time zone: GMT+8


Great logo design by the way, absolutely wonderful.
go go win the OWC this time <3~
kriers
Norway, Sweden and Denmark are kinda alike. I mean, we even share our channel together. Even so, we're participating as 3 different teams altogether. That makes it amusing Germany has to get players from somewhere else, France can take players Belgium etc.
It's not like this rule applies anywhere else, and small countries kinda has to deal with it anyhow...

My point is, I think the rule where smaller countries can join together, or players can suddenly participate for a neighbouring country is too kind.
Colored

KRZY wrote:

Country name: Republic of Korea
Captain: KRZY
Player1: M A I D
Player2: Reisen Udongein
Player3: TBA
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Back-up Player1: TBA
Back-up Player2: TBA

Time zone: GMT+8


Great logo design by the way, absolutely wonderful.
lolwut?! where is cookie :o
galvenize

kriers wrote:

Norway, Sweden and Denmark are kinda alike. I mean, we even share our channel together. Even so, we're participating as 3 different teams altogether. That makes it amusing Germany has to get players from somewhere else, France can take players Belgium etc.
It's not like this rule applies anywhere else, and small countries kinda has to deal with it anyhow...

My point is, I think the rule where smaller countries can join together, or players can suddenly participate for a neighbouring country is too kind.

Man up and take those strong teams all on like a boss 8D.
YodaSnipe
like a baws!
Topic Starter
fartownik

646kapeh064 wrote:

Country name: Russian Federation
Captain: Akai-
Player1: Jaffar
Player2: 646kapeh064
Player3: _Angel
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Back-up Player1: funshine
Back-up Player2: cr1m

GMT+4
After a talk with Vpalach I decided not to put Russia on the list yet. You didn't contact most of better players from your country and just submitted a team, that's not really fair isn't it? I'm gonna wait for a team composed with the best players as possible.
Wishy
I don't really know about russian players but I think the team you posted doesn't include even one of the best 4 players you got...

uljjang wrote:

lolwut?! where is cookie :o
He doesn't want to play or something. :c
_Angel
is this tournament for players, who fartownik want to see in only?
gj
Wishy
If you're from a country that has good players you can't go and sign-up with a team full of random players that can't even compare to the good ones. This is a WORLD CUP and the best players from each country are supposed to be able to play, you can't just go and leave them out because some random guys want to play too. It's like some 4 random guys from Korea come and make a team and leave idk Reisen and KRZY out...
Tanzklaue

_Angel wrote:

is this tournament for players, who fartownik want to see in only?
gj
He just don't want to get trolled by some people who just want to ruin things for the sake of ruining.
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