that doesn't make any sense though, if dxs got modkilled for the exact same thing why wouldn't pieguy?

I do wonder why I haven't been NK'd though

probably because I'm on the wrong track and helping influence a bad vote?~


mmmmmmmmm so many possibilities, also answer pls faceman

Chris wrote:

that doesn't make any sense though, if dxs got modkilled for the exact same thing why wouldn't pieguy?

The difference I see is DxS said he can't claim due to role restrictions, whereas Pieguy flat-out claimed.

So as I see it there's two possibilities:

1. Pieguy's lying.
2. DxS wasn't a plain townsperson but flipped as that when he got smitten.

@Two

When players are modkilled, do you show their real roles?



also there is no reason to lie this late in the game unless you are mafia imo

Chris wrote:

@Two
When players are modkilled, do you show their real roles?

deathxshinigami really was a townsperson yes

Two wrote:

Chris wrote:

@Two
When players are modkilled, do you show their real roles?

deathxshinigami really was a townsperson yes

Dunno if you'll answer this, but does Townsperson mean 100% vanilla town?

closed setup sry

townsperson is like as vanilla as you can get

notice there are X townpersons, so townperson is the base

Chris wrote:

townsperson is like as vanilla as you can get

notice there are X townpersons, so townperson is the base

Well what I was getting at is that it's possible even the "vanilla" townspersons have some sort of restriction (hence the modkill). Though I suppose DxS could have been talking outside the thread or something...

Since this is LyLo and Chris is being a fucking retard and thinks I'm mafia I'll role-claim. This probably won't make much sense.

Roleclaim: Coroner

thats all I'll say.

please trust me.

0_o wrote:

Chris wrote:

townsperson is like as vanilla as you can get

notice there are X townpersons, so townperson is the base

Well what I was getting at is that it's possible even the "vanilla" townspersons have some sort of restriction (hence the modkill). Though I suppose DxS could have been talking outside the thread or something...

it's more than likely a post restriction or something, making it so they're unable to claim or even hint at their role

and a mafia wouldn't know that, which is why I question pieguys sincerity

why the fuck would anyone need a coroner if the roles get posted when they die?

what

that doesn't make sense at all actually, gj calling it

also if you're not mafia you're just really bad, so gj being fucking retarded

has anyone this entire game actually been able to claim? as far as I remember it's only pieguy/foulcoon

do we have our last two mafia ^_^

How do the results you receive differ from what we're given?

You've found me suspicious this whole time, there's no convincing someone as stubborn as you. Did you seriously ridicule me for hammering someone you all thought was suspicious? A person you voted for? And yeah I've been voting for you, because you're playing like a tard and you've lied to everyone.

Roleclaim or I will continue to vote for you. Why did Rantai die when you said he wouldn't? Why did you make it seem like you were the Doctor or another protection role?

foulcoon wrote:

Roleclaim or I will continue to vote for you.

so very town of you foulcoon

also waiting for an answer to facemans question

@faceguy, they don't

@Chris: are you dumb or stupid? I'm not mafia. If you're town you are the worst player of all time.

Vote: Chris

wait I think I already did that, right?

guess not, vote stands (lol triple post)

Chris wrote:

has anyone this entire game actually been able to claim? as far as I remember it's only pieguy/foulcoon

do we have our last two mafia ^_^

.

Vote: Foulcoon

your role makes no sense, you get the exact same results we get? so basically you have no role?

sounds like another "I targetted myself because I knew you'd bus drive me" lie

lol so bad

also yes I ridiculed you for hammering someone you said was town all game

oh my god you're such an idiot. If chris is mafia and mafia wins this game I hate you all.

foulcoon wrote:

oh my god you're such an idiot. If chris is mafia and mafia wins this game I hate you all.

get madder pls

are you gonna role claim or what

foulcoon wrote:

are you gonna role claim or what

nope

also lol @ "are you dumb or stupid"

wat

you're either one or the other

foulcoon wrote:

you're either one or the other

I really hope you never actually host a mafia game, you are too bad

It's really hard to see foul's claim being correct for multiple reasons, but at the same time I do see one situation where it might be true and (not really) make sense to have in the game.

3. NoHItter - Mafia Graverobber

Though, I would've assumed if his ability had anything to do with hiding results of lynches or NKs, that he would've used it N1.


Also I see a lot of Ad Hominem. Not really helping.

if you're town you're retarded

if you're mafia the rest of the players in this game are retarded for believing you

its either you or LadySuburu going today. If not, I will literally request replacement. This game is not worth the frustration it is causing me.

1. LadySuburu - Maybe Town
2. 0_o - Town
3. Chris - Town
4. pieguy1372 - Roleclaimed Vanilla (dxs did and got modkilled)
5. foulcoon - Roleclaimed Coroner

so it's either foulcoon and pieguy or foulcoon and suburu

or lol, possibly suburu and pieguy

and worst off faceman and suburu/pieguy


pick

Unvote

Vote: LadySuburu

I will not change my vote for the rest of the day. If you choose not to believe my claim I understand, but just try to realize this isn't me pulling a PyP, and I wouldn't roleclaim something so stupid for no reason.

Thats for all of you, not just Chris.

I wish faceman would post more and explain to me why he knows pieguy is town

unvote

whend id he say pieguy is town? or are you jsut referring to the quick hammer comment

foulcoon wrote:

whend id he say pieguy is town? or are you jsut referring to the quick hammer comment

he said he wouldn't get modkilled so I assume he knows something

or maybe why dxs got modkilled at least, which is I assume for somewhat claiming

less than 24 hours left btw

you really need to post something faceman, cause as it stands there is a bunch of maybes and you aren't helping~

pieguy really needs to post cause I'm pretty sure I've seen him lurk since I quoted his roleclaim, if he doesn't he's getting my vote

pieguy was just viewing this and still didn't post~

gg

Oh sorry, I was rereading the thread and got sidetracked. >.<//

Anyway

Chris wrote:

it's more than likely a post restriction or something, making it so they're unable to claim or even hint at their role

I know it is really odd, but I suppose this is what Two meant when he said there'd be more emphasis on playing well.

I'm not mafia, and I'm 99% sure 0_o is town, so that leaves Chris, LS, and foulcoon. At least one and no more than two of them are mafia. I'm starting to become really doubtful of LS recently...he hasn't really helped that much. The situation of the post restriction D1 makes sense whether he's town or mafia...if he's town, it probably just got lifted once someone figured it out, whereas if he's mafia he could have just made it all up. Chris has been really proactive and finding out reasons to attack people so he normally would be town, but the problem is that everyone he's attacked so far has been town. It is a possibility that he was mafia all this time and is trying to mislead us. foulcoon...roleclaimed Coroner, which makes no sense in a game with full reveals. foulcoon, please explain further if you're allowed, because otherwise, that's really suspicious.

I was just looking at the end of day 5, and I noticed that LS and foulcoon were last on Lyby's bandwagon. Meanwhile, Chris was first on Lyby's bandwagon. In this case, Lyby was quite suspicious, so I don't blame Chris for being first. However, LS and foulcoon being the last ones seems very suspicious to me.

Additionally, I'm really surprised that a quickhammer hasn't occurred yet. If there were two mafia, I'm sure they would have just ended the game by now. There are thus two options. One, one of Chris or foulcoon is mafia already, so a quickhammer can not occur, or two, there is only one mafia. As such, there is no reason to vote anyone besides Chris or foulcoon (if it's just one mafioso, it's fine even if they're town, and if it's two, there's a 50% of one of them being mafia based on that alone). There is another possibility that both Chris and foulcoon are mafia.

You know what? I really really think Chris is town. So I will FoS: foulcoon for now, because he's at the top of my list.

Sorry, busy today.

Here's why I think pieguy is town:

Day 1
viewtopic.php?p=1030651#p1030651
Votes NoHItter on a gut feeling, and gets into a long discussion with him about the merits of gut voting.

--

viewtopic.php?p=1030651#p1030651

Wojjan wrote:

NoHItter, pieguy, scum team of the year?

viewtopic.php?p=1031426#p1031426

NoHItter wrote:

How did what pieguy make you think we're both scum?

viewtopic.php?p=1031523#p1031523

Wojjan wrote:

well Hitter assume you're both mafs for a second. pieguy knows you're maf and votes you as a "gut feeling" which wow chigga wow boom bang he's a maf! pieguy definitely looks town now, lynching a maf D1!

Calling out both teammates as a scum team? I wouldn't say I would put it past Wojjan, but overall it doesn't seem too likely.

--

Might be some other random stuff too, but those are my main points.

Chris wrote:

I wish faceman would post more and explain to me why he knows pieguy is town

I don't know that pieguy isn't town, I just had a pretty good idea he wasn't going to be modkilled. At the time I thought I knew why DxS was modkilled, and it wasn't because he claimed to be a townsperson.

Also I have no idea what to think right now.

The only reason I've been defending LS so far is because I caught what he was trying to communicate D1, but now I'm actually starting to wonder if it actually does clear him or not. Because right now I'm actually getting town feelings from everyone else, and it is theoretically possible that he's a mafia who predicted a part of the setup due to his own restriction and went fishing...

Also I am currently afraid to lynch both Chris and foul as I would rather not be at the brunt of their wrath.

0_o wrote:

The only reason I've been defending LS so far is because I caught what he was trying to communicate D1, but now I'm actually starting to wonder if it actually does clear him or not. Because right now I'm actually getting town feelings from everyone else, and it is theoretically possible that he's a mafia who predicted a part of the setup due to his own restriction and went fishing...

I know basically 99.9% sure that you're town for the same reason that you thought I'm town.

I have a question to ask you specifically since you for some reason are starting to doubt me, and you're pretty much the only one that I know is town.

Which is more likely:?

I as town tried to show the thing you caught even risking seeming suspicious... (It's really hard to talk to you about this without risking being modkilled, btw.)

Or, that I as mafia managed to predict part of the setup and fish for a non-aux role in a manner that easilly would draw suspicion and eyes to me?


Also, I'm kinda frustrated that you guys didn't lynch me the times when I ASKED to be lynched if it was going to become a problem later in the game. Being lynched at or near LyLo for a stupid reason like this is going to piss me off when the game is over and the mafia win for such a dumb reason.

LadySuburu wrote:

0_o wrote:

The only reason I've been defending LS so far is because I caught what he was trying to communicate D1, but now I'm actually starting to wonder if it actually does clear him or not. Because right now I'm actually getting town feelings from everyone else, and it is theoretically possible that he's a mafia who predicted a part of the setup due to his own restriction and went fishing...

Which is more likely:?

I as town tried to show the thing you caught even risking seeming suspicious... (It's really hard to talk to you about this without risking being modkilled, btw.)

Or, that I as mafia managed to predict part of the setup and fish for a non-aux role in a manner that easilly would draw suspicion and eyes to me?

I was just thinking if your role was exactly the same as it is now, but mafia-aligned, it's possible that you gambled that some pro-town players might be similar, thus cruising on that person's word with the assumption that it's a strictly pro-town trait. I was a little surprised that you weren't modkilled for it, but it wouldn't be gamebreaking if you were mafia.

However, looking back on that I do suppose that it would make more sense if a townsperson guessed that another townsperson would be similar than it would a mafioso. You did offer to lynch yourself too, which I forgot about.

So yeah, forget what I said then. LS is either town or a lucky, devious bastard of a mafia. Likely and hopefully the former.

There is only five people total and the only one people really aren't sticking up for is foulcoon

which means he is town and pieguy/suburu are mafia yay

^ jk

I really wont be able to lynch confidently no matter what

Chris wrote:

I really wont be able to lynch confidently no matter what

This. I really do have reasons why everyone alive now is likely town >_>. Maybe I just suck at scumhunting.

Sooo you aren't going to tell us what was up with you saying Rantai won't die, right?

0_o wrote:

Sooo you aren't going to tell us what was up with you saying Rantai won't die, right?

well I was just not telling foulcoon to be spiteful but

my original intention was for mafia to NK me in place of an aux role, though it didn't work out like that

Chris wrote:

my original intention was for mafia to NK me in place of an aux role, though it didn't work out like that

That's the first thing I thought after you did it too, yay.

OK you know what

vote foulcoon. The only way we lose with a foul lynch is if there are two mafia among LS, Chris and pieguy and I really don't think that's the case.

Sorry if you're town bro.

You do lose with lynching me because I'm not mafia.

Double posting to say that if I get any more votes on me I'm just going to get myself modkilled by giving out information I shouldn't. If you think I'm mafia, quit mafia.

foulcoon wrote:

Double posting to say that if I get any more votes on me I'm just going to get myself modkilled by giving out information I shouldn't. If you think I'm mafia, quit mafia.

If you think you're town, quit mafia.

Ad Hominem + "Oh I'm voting X and not going to change my vote no matter what."

For someone who claims to be town and is so frustrated and intent on winning, you sure are doing a craptastic job at convincing us and at figuring out who the mafia is. Yknow, if you're not bullshitting the whole frustration thing.

I can't tell which ones of you are bad town and which are mafia anymore. Everyone has their mind set on lynching me, kind of like everyone decided to lynch Lyb.

Congratulations mafia.

K goodnight.

If i get lynched before I wake up/see the posts, peace.

Good luck town.

Heading off to sleep, thinking didn't really get me anything new.

Since I'm not 100% sure I'll see the thread before deadline, it's time for me to vote.

Vote: Foulcoon.

I assume he would of been hammered before I woke up anyways if he wasn't mafia

unless faceman/suburu are both mafia, lol

oh well this game went on long enough~

vote: foulcoon

Final Vote Count

foulcoon (3): 0_o, LadySuburu, Chris

LadySuburu (1): foulcoon

Not voting: pieguy1372

foulcoon has been lynched.

It's now Night 6. You have 24 hours to send in night actions.

Ending Night 6 prematurely!

LadySuburu has been slain.

You have 48 hours until Day 7 ends. It takes 2 votes to lynch.

gahhh why do you mafia always leave me in the finals

I don't want to decide >_>

are you serious right now

faceman I really hope you are not mafia

vote: pieguy

This is me not hammering pieguy.

0_o wrote:

This is me not hammering pieguy.

unless you have some information you'd like to share about you being mafia you should vote

actually that doesn't make sense cause if you were mafia you'd hammer and win~

pls kill pieguy he is a traitor

Chris wrote:

0_o wrote:

This is me not hammering pieguy.

unless you have some information you'd like to share about you being mafia you should vote

Why rush? pieguy will come and vote for you and I'll have a whole 48 hours to make my mind up.

0_o wrote:

Why rush? pieguy will come and vote for you and I'll have a whole 48 hours to make my mind up.

because I want to win gogogogo pls

ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION

Chris isn't mafia is he

then answer this question

no, no he isn't mafia

also pieguy didn't vote foulcoon who was mafia and I hammered so GOOOOO

Chris wrote:

also pieguy didn't vote foulcoon who was mafia and I hammered so GOOOOO

I'm pretty sure he wasn't mafia actually. Unless Two did something weird by making the coroner a mafioso, which doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

0_o wrote:

Chris wrote:

also pieguy didn't vote foulcoon who was mafia and I hammered so GOOOOO

I'm pretty sure he wasn't mafia actually. Unless Two did something weird by making the coroner a mafioso, which doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

I will rage so hard if you vote for me you have no idea

having a coroner period in games where roles are shown doesn't make sense

unless foulcoon is what made roles show, cause he died and showed nothing

or he was a mafia who didn't get his role shown when he died

pls don't lose this we're at the very end

Chris wrote:

unless foulcoon is what made roles show, cause he died and showed nothing

I'm pretty sure it's this.

ok yeah I think it's pieguy

vote pieguy

0_o wrote:

ok yeah I think it's pieguy

vote pieguy

THANK GOD I WIN

WOO MAFIA

just kidding

it would be hilarious if I actually was mafia right now

0_o wrote:

it would be hilarious if I actually was mafia right now

I would have to tell you gg

Okayy. Game over ^_^.

pieguy1372 - Mafia Detective has been lynched

Town Wins

Role Synopsis:

Townspeople: nothing, can't claim their exact rolename and talk about not being able to claim it

Town Gossips: minimum 2 posts per day at 30 characters each or they don't count, otherwise no abilities

Paranoid Cat Lady: one-shot lie detector, usable during any phase. Unable to roleclaim or hint at their role before using their ability.

Know-it-all: starts off as neutral, turns town if voted for, reveals aux if lynched, gets role count every day.

Fanatic Worshipper: scan with 50/50 chance of alerting mafia, or kill yourself night 1 to scan two people and have their roles given to two random people (including mafia) the next day.

Innocuous Townsperson: returns a random role out of 113 when investigated, including by the Know-it-all. Full list here:
Pure Soul: destiny bond reviver. May send one pm once per game during the day phase. If they die that night, they can revive any one player at any point in the game. They'd be revived the next game day. Immune to any and all investigation.

Anonymous Coroner: keeps the roles of the dead showing.

Mafia Leader: final say on night kills, can pm a player name night 1 and use their role as their cover. If they are lynched, their cover's role is displayed in place of theirs.

Mafia Detective: investigate a player, gets told only if they have a power role or not

Mafia Graverobber: gets told detail role information of everyone who died the previous day, at the start of every day

Lybydose - town

animask - innocuous

DeathxShinigami - town

Wojjan - Mafia Leader

0_o - gossip

Mashley - pure soul

Rolled - town

Chris - gossip

pieguy1372 - mafia detective

Rantai - knowitall

Swiftwolf Yellowtail - fanatic

akrolsmir - cat lady

NoHItter - mafia graverobber

foulcoon - coroner

LadySuburu - gossip

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/BxAecDXTe4pw

mafia chat

a few notes:

- wojjan never used their ability

- if nohitter had conceded sooner, he'd have taken ladysuburu with him

- chris never picked up on the other gossips

mfw chris had the same role as faceman and LS



Also, why the fuck did you kill me D2?

Rolled wrote:

mfw chris had the same role as faceman and LS

lolllll

I still don't get the secret thing you were talking about

edit: omg ic ic

durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

also told you pieguy couldn't fucking claim

that was a golden catch

...god damn it >.>

Oh well, good game everyone

It seems the major mistake I made was not saying I wasn't allowed to roleclaim way back on D2 or whenever. I didn't even think about it until four days later, when I realized I had no options at all (roleclaim vanilla and get called out on it, say I'm not allowed to claim and get called out for not saying it D2, or claim an aux role and get called out because there were already enough aux roles).

Also, I never got the secret either. What was it? o.o

pieguy1372 wrote:

Also, I never got the secret either. What was it? o.o

all the town gossips had to post at least 30 character messages twice a day or get modkilled

suburu was being subtle as hell and posting exactly 30 every time for other town gossips to understand

faceman did but I didn't lol

Oh holy crap. No wonder I didn't get what you all were talking about

Also, being mafia is a lot more fun when you manage to survive a reasonable amount of time

Oh and if you are confused about day 1...

You are a Mafia Detective. You are aligned with the other Mafia Members, the names of which I've spoilered in case you think not knowing will help distance you day 1:

SPOILER

NoHItter (Mafia Graverobber) and Wojjan (Mafia Leader)

^____^

Honestly I was slightly shocked LS didn't get modkilled for that, I thought it fell quite plainly under "hinting at your restriction." That's why I started to doubt LS yesterday, I thought if Two allowed that much hinting then there was something balancing that out, like a mafia who had the same restriction.

they asked me when it first started if they could

I said yes as long as they don't point it out

0_o wrote:

Honestly I was slightly shocked LS didn't get modkilled for that, I thought it fell quite plainly under "hinting at your restriction." That's why I started to doubt LS yesterday, I thought if Two allowed that much hinting then there was something balancing that out, like a mafia who had the same restriction.

I thought it was clever as hell tbh, I need to start thinking more awesome like that when I play mafia

Actually I read the spoilerbox before accusing NoHItter

Wojjan told us he actually didn't, and managed to call both of us out rofl.

also gj wojjan for calling out both NoHItter and pieguy without knowing who they were

Jeez, you were a gossip and didn't notice, so bad chris. jk jk

I'm glad I was NKed. Basically NKing face was the only scenario I worried about, since I wouldn't have voted faceman ever, and me being NKed doesn't make sense to me.


oh and I kinda cheated because I asked Two interesting enough questions that he revealed that there were multiple gossips so I didn't have to guess that there were. (I asked if I could say I had a post restriction that I can't claim, since there was nothing in the PM about it.)


Basically, I was lucky that at least one person picked up on it. Jester speculation saved me D1 too, which is nice.

Two wrote:

they asked me when it first started if they could

I said yes as long as they don't point it out

Yeah, I had to tailor EVERY SINGLE FREAKING RESPONSE because I had to avoid even referencing someone's mention of my posting restriction or posting 30 characters or anything.

Edit: Because I didn't want to even risk being modkilled.

LadySuburu wrote:

Jeez, you were a gossip and didn't notice, so bad chris. jk jk

I'm glad I was NKed.

you dying is what made me like 99% sure pieguy was mafia, and especially after faceman didn't hammer immediately I KNEW we won

the best thing that could of happened was me/you dying that night, so yay

Oh holy shit

I only killed LS because I thought he had a higher chance of voting me than 0_o. Turns out I had that back-ass-wards >.<//

lol @ me calling you jester though, if I would of looked at my role for more than 2 seconds and going aw no aux I might of picked up on it

Chris wrote:

lol @ me calling you jester though, if I would of looked at my role for more than 2 seconds and going aw no aux I might of picked up on it

The funny thing is it was your post that made me catch it:
viewtopic.php?p=1034167#p1034167

Chris wrote:

Suburu your last 3 posts have been 30 characters each

I assume that is a requirement for your role


edit: every single post?

I never even noticed til then; mentioning "30 characters" is what set the lightbulb off.

Yeah, I was extremely happy once Chris called that out because at that point I knew that any gossip that existed could've seen it.

except chris