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BASIC

1. Disagree, yes this BASIC is on the hard side of a normal easy, but imo this does not cross the border. 01:10:050 - same density as higher diff is perfectly fine especially considering this is the calm part.

2. (jacks), neutral, discussed with Unpredictable in dm's (should've posted smh)

3. (kick jacks), agree, small inconsistency, but imo not worth the DQ if it's only this (up to mapper then)

4. (ln), disagree, same as (1), also imo it doesn't conflict with the music either since it's just simplification

5. (single note), disagree, it's just for melody so no reason to remove, as well as it isn't even dense here

VIVID

1. (anchors) big disagree, at this density anchors are very hard to avoid, and imo anchors at this density don't impact gameplay at all purely because the density overshadows it, especially considering this is an extra diff. (reworking these patterns can at most bring anchors down to 5 long, which is barely a decrease).

2. (one hand trills) big disagree, similarly to (1), one hand trills are really not hard at this density and this difficulty and again hard to avoid, sure yes you can make the interval at when they happen consistent, but again, at this density it imo doesn't do anything.

1. I can't really find a better way to rearrange that part without sacrificing some notes that I have reasons for, and to me, the trills focused on the middle two columns are generally the easiest to deal with. The patterns are pretty straightforward and it is basically a repetition there. I don't feel much of a need to change it here.

2. This whole part is mostly following the changes in pitch, and I have already been balancing the trills. As what you point out, 4 right hand trills but 3 left hand trills. That's not really the case. Note that I have an additional trill at 01:34:775 (94775|0,94858|1,94940|0) - to specifically balance this part. Therefore, I honestly don't feel this pattern causes serious imbalance issues.

Regarding Unpredictable's difficulty, I will follow his opinion on whether he would like to make an update or not.

I should have removed the 2nd point I had about the VIVID difficulty because I looked at it again and it seemed fine, was considering removing it. Regardless I think the first point still stands because there's very little in the chart that attempts to balance out the left hand and it feels really heavy on the right hand to play. You may disagree with that point however, after all mirror exists so it isn't that big of a problem.

"mirror exists" should not be used as an argument, either way the timestamps you point out have anchors just as big on the left hand 00:32:303 (32303|1,32468|1,32633|1,32797|1,32962|1,33127|1,33622|1,33786|1,33951|1,34116|0,34116|1,34281|0,34281|1,34446|1,34446|0,34611|0,34611|1,34775|0,34858|1,34940|0,35023|1,35187|1,35352|1) -

and again, I can't stress enough how little anchors matter in dense patterns as these

Yes, there were anchors present in the left hand, I did notice that and that of course comes with this density, however I felt like I was playing one giant anchor on column 3 and 4 while left hand did relatively little which is why I mentioned it in the post, I think I wouldn't have a problem with it if one of the longer anchors that occured at the same time as another anchor on column 4 would have been arranged elsewhere I wouldn't have a problem. Regardless, I think Shima is set on not changing that section and I can respect that, it's not that big of a deal for me at least.

Hi davvy chan, just quick reply with my opinion.
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BASIC
#1, I think this isn't a issue tbh, all of those can be matched with melody which means it's right. There has no unwritten rules that we must focus on 1/1 beat (white line) when we mapping easy/basic. Actually here is not break RC, all of thoes with continuous 1/2 rhythm aren't over 5, let alone it fit with music/melody.

#2, those stacks, as for me, seem fine since it just fits the melody. But I'm agree with your idea about 00:29:913 - here, really strange why suddenly change the col, actually, changing the col is ok but I just feel these two should be simiar 00:29:253 (29253|2,29501|2,29913|2,30160|1) - , if prev. got stack, this one got same too 00:29:913 - , or both separate. But this isn't unrankable issue tbh I'll respect the mapper's original idea. So change it or not just depends on him

#3, I think it's similar with 00:35:600 (35600|1) - for three 1/6 beat sound simplication. Not wrong

#4, It's not a problem tbh, now is ok. Don't need to leave if just for simplified with dense. If he delete some of it, the consistency should be reappraised.
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VIVID
#1, as you point, both hands had same stress anchor, maybe the right-hand is kind of obviours, but you still can find 00:32:303 (32303|1,32468|1,32633|1,32797|1,32962|1,33127|1) - too (same part after this one), so there is no "imbalance issue" here. And considering our fingers, our index finger is more flexible than our middle finger, so I think here it's fine!

#2， I‘m agree with UnluckyCroco

Giving my 2ct because more opinions were requested.
To #1 BASIC . I don't think this is a big issue at all. It could be done easier here and there, but i think this is a pretty subjective matter here. This difficulty follows a pretty simple rhythm (The main melody, mostly with single notes). This is what most beginner hear and tend to follow. I also don't think there are missing breaks. It all moves within the Ranking Criteria.

#2 The jacks are okay-ish in my eyes. since they are 3/4 beat apart from each other. It does add a little challenge for newer players, yet nothing too difficulty. (If it were 1/2 beat jacks, i would be probably with you). Although 3/4 rhythm is rather rarely to find in Easy difficulties so beginner could struggle with it.
But in the end i guess that's again a very subjective matter.

#3 Would agree with you here. I think the difficulty could benefit of it as some kind of "rest" point after the jacks. (Although LN is played so technically not a "rest" :^)) but you know what i mean.

#4 Neutral on this one. This note doesn't really hurt and doesn't make this part too dense. And it still follows the main melody as the rest of the difficulty does. Removing it could add a bit of a rest point and would give a nice emphasis to 01:13:182 (73182|3) -
However, it's again pretty subjective.

#5 VIVID. Hard to say to be honest. I think you are right about the density and the hand bias. But i see a different problem here: Would it be possible to arrange the notes in a way where one hand is not biased, without destroying the mappers intention too much? I doubt it a bit. 4K is too limiting in this case. If it's possible (i tried and couldn't find an elegant way), i would support you here and ask to arrange some notes. But for now i would disagree.

#6 Last but not least the trills. It's correct, the right hand has some more trills than the left hand, however the amount is not drastically higher. When i counted the whole 2nd chorus correctly, i got 3 more. And that's like.. really not that much or? It moves for me in an acceptable range. Something like 2/8 would be worse and i would probably support you here. But i guess it's fine as it is.

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So yeah that's my 5ct. The basic could be improved a bit, but i still think most of it moves in an acceptable range. Same goes for the VIVID difficulty. Although i would like to hear some ideas about #5 if/how the section could be improved because for now i can't see of a proper way myself because of the natural limitation of the 4K mode.

Edit: Bloody grammar

damn i've been stalling a bit too long on this, my apologies.

1. to respond to your first point, I think Feerum said it best. this is pretty subjective in hindsight and I honestly prefer a lot more uses of 1/2 my lower diffs rather than bigger emphasis with doubles or triples for that matter. capturing as much sound as possible whilst staying within guidelines of the RC is what i strive to do when i make lower diffs. and compared to the novice diff, i think that me and him just focus on different aspects of the song such as him focusing a lot more on emphasis and whatnot whilst i focus on more sounds in certain places which I think warrants it. this shouldn't mean though that his diff is inherently harder than mine. which is why I disagree with your point being made here.

2. essentially what Feerum said. i really don't see this as much of a problem honestly since tbf these aren't even jacks to begin with. i guess it's straining in some aspect but I kinda just wanted to make it a little difficult since there sound was repeating pretty heavy here so I would like to keep this if I may.

3. would disagree here too. i wanted to show a pitch change with the beat at a higher octave somehow and felt like the LN was appropriate in this case. imo i don't think it hinders much of gameplay at all as well so i would like to keep it too pls. however if ur adamant on really wanting me to change it, i would not mind changing it. i just felt like it was doing the pitch change here justice.

4. hm idk i felt like these were pretty noticeable imo and felt like it would have been odd if i had left them out. i don't think there are very straining either tbf so, same thing again i wouldn't really want to change this either.

i hope this was a somewhat decent reply to your mods, thank you again for taking your time to check it :)

I think I'm just going to agree to disagree here. While I still think that the stack pattern is inconsequential and that I don't feel any real weight in the music, I think it's okay enough if you don't want to change it. Additionally, the things I said on VIVID were mostly nitpicks that I had, and I do think there are better ways to balance it, but same can be said for many files in ranked. So I would like to apologize for my unnecessary wall and ensuing discussion. Resolved.

looks familiar :wokest:

Fixed Stan's mods.

What do you mean by timing fix? Can you give me the complete list of timing points or let me know what I should do?

removed unused green lines due only using one hitnormal

Never mind, it's all fixed.

-15 just made it earlier hit, current is better

i think -8 is good

I'll have someone else take a look on it too.

This is quite the odd case, because no matter where you move the offset, some sounds will still be quite offsync. In other words, it has a very tiny amount of fluctuation, so you have to pretty much set an offset that works with the majority of sounds, especially the percussion sounds. I think -10 works better for that.

After these discussions I decided to change offsets by -10.

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