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00:06:961 (1) - maybe make the shape better?

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Copy that. I changed it to a more rounded shape.

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00:07:854 (2) - 横向きにしたら流れ良くなりそう。あとカーブも

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横にしました

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00:09:639 (5) - 00:08:746 (1) と不自然な重なり方してるので半スタックかちょいスタックとかした方がいいかも

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00:11:425 (1) - ここのslider 00:10:711 (3) と重なって見た目悪いから変えたほうがいいかも

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ok

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00:16:514 (4) - ここオーバーマップかも

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管楽器の音階が変わっているので3連でここは表現してるのでkeep

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00:18:746 (2,3) - ctrl+g for these, they would better capture the rhythm just like you did in 00:16:961 (1,2,3) -

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ok!

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00:21:246 (1) - ここだけ右向きスライダーだと00:21:604 (1,1,1) - の流れは良いのに00:21:246 (1) - でもったいなくなってる感あるのでhttps://imgur.com/a/MVxxIw1みたいな感じだと00:21:068 (7) - からのカーソルの動きも全体的にスムーズになると思います。

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上ギリギリまでもっていくのは序盤では厳しいので似た流れで良い流れになるよう工夫します

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00:21:246 (1,1,1) - these slider have the same intensity but 00:21:961 (1) - it is reduced the same, I suggest maintaining intensity coherence

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ok!

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00:21:604 (1,1) - increase the spacing a little bit, some people will point out that pixels of those 2 sliders our touching

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ok!

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00:23:657 - missing a drum, maybe try sth like this so you can make 00:23:925 - be active as well?
https://imgur.com/a/M4yzdLc

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Maybe that's not where the sound came from.

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00:26:782 (6,1) - ctrl+g to more accurately trap voices

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ok

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00:26:782 (6,1) - ctrl+g for more accurate voice capture

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ok

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00:28:211 (3) - Additions Soft入れよう

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おk

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00:30:711 (1,2,3) - 歌詞の ほんの~ に合わせてWhistleいれよう
00:30:889 (2) - ここだけAdditionsにSoftつけよう

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おk

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00:30:711 (1,3) - おそらくスタックずれてる

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fix

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00:32:675 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - アイデアとしてはいいんだけど、このようなジャンプを配置するような音が無いのとサビやその直前でもないのにこの大きさのジャンプを置くのは避けたほうだ良いです。あと、00:32:675 - から00:33:211 - は今までと同じボーカルに合わせた音とりの方が無難です。ジャンプは00:33:389 - からの方がいいと思います。

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00:33:032 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) - 静かなパートの割にはジャンプがすこし大きすぎる気がするのでもうすこし狭められたらいいかも?

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00:33:032 (1,2,1,2,1) - I don't see NC actually contributing anything, the usual combo would look good

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removed NC ~

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00:33:211 (3) - ボーカルに合わせたWhistleいれるならここにAdditions soft追加してあげたほうが良い

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00:38:568 (2) - Whistle^~

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00:34:104 (1,2,3): This is subjective, but you could increase the sv as it progresses by 1! 2! 3! I think it is understood this way

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OK. try it

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三つとも似てるボーカルだから変じゃない?SV同じで十分な気がしちゃう

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統一しました 

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00:38:389 (1) ここのスライダー部分ボーカル強いから単発2個にしてもいいかも

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01:04:996 (1,2,3) - こういうとこのkiaiよりも大きくなってるから間隔調節したほうが良いと思う

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miss

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申し訳ない追加の返信無視してください。mod慣れてないばかりに... xD

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単発に変えました

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00:38:389 (1) - I agree that they are two stacked notes would better follow the voice

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ok

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00:38:925 (4) - スライダー先端にあるSamplesetのDrumを消してしっぽに付けてあげたほうが良い

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00:39:282 (1) - ここもDrumけしとこう

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00:40:354 (3) - これも先端のDrum消してしっぽに付けよう
00:40:711 (4) - 先端のDrumだけ消そう

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00:43:211 (3,4) - 上と同じ

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ok

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00:42:496 (5,1) - this is kinda weird here because ur mainly following vocal in this section but 00:42:854 - is randomly passive,
change 00:42:496 (5) - to 1/2 slider and put a circle on 00:42:854 - will be a lot better imo

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I made another pattern.

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00:42:675 (1) - Sampleset DrumにしてAdditions Softにしよう

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おk

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00:44:639 (1) - 00:44:818 (2) - maybe ctrl g these? sv are pretty high so it will be easier for players to ss if they are facing where the cursor go

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I'll hold it because it's not that tightly placed.

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00:47:496 (2) - 00:48:211 (2,3) - 後ろになってる鈴みたいな音拾うのにadditionsでsoftにしてwhistle追加

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00:47:496 (2) - ここは三連打にしたほうがいいです
00:48:211 (2,3) - ここと同じ音が鳴ってます

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ok

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00:48:746 (2) - assuming you're following vocal, then would be better to replace 00:48:746 (2) - with 2 circle like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/15081105/8197

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ok

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00:49:639 (1,2) - このジャンプ静かなパートだし不要だと思う、縮めたいところ

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00:51:246 (1,2,3,4) - ここのリズムこんな感じにしたほうが自然な気がする https://yuiyui.s-ul.eu/4BsLUhkP

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前後のリズムを整えてボーカルじゃない音取りにして整えました

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00:51:425 (2) - actually this slider is not at all fundamental, I suggest doing ctrl + g at 00:51:246 (1,2) - to make voice tracking more intuitive

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I added a reverse slider to create a new rhythm

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00:52:496 (1,2) - 00:53:032 (4,5) - maybe change this to 1/2 slider to follow the vocal? jumps feel like following nothing here

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also consinder nerfing the spacing here, it feel kinda overspaced because the music is pretty calm here xD, doing that can have better impact for 00:53:568 (1,2) - as well

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Since we're describing a scale change in a brass instrument, we'll change 00:52:496 and keep the others.

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00:53:389 (1) - こっちをNCにするんじゃなくて00:53:568 (2) - にNC入れたほうがいいよ

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okm

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00:54:461 (2,3) - あとの00:55:889 (2,3) - ではそういうことしてないので普通に間隔広げた方がよさそう

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統一しました

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00:57:318 (2,3,4) - 一旦曲調がゆるやかになってるから、だいぶ間隔狭めたりSVさげたりしてもいいかと思う

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ゆるくしました

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00:59:461 (4,1) - I'd work around that angle to make it a bit wider, it stands out a bit too much here imo, I'd either move 00:59:818 (1) - higher or 00:58:389 (1,2,3,4) - lower

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00:59:996 (2,3) - stacking dont seems to be a good option here because its pretty intense, can space them like 01:00:532 (1,2) - to be consistent

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maybe stack 01:00:175 (3) - to slidertail of 00:59:461 (4) - ?

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01:00:175 (3,4) - a bit too big since 01:00:354 (4) - doesn't have piano sound. Changing pattern might be hard so I suggest this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/15081144/cbe8

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02:05:532 (5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - I'll rearrange it to be consistent with the rhythm here and improve it.

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01:01:604 (2) - 01:01:961で連打が入ってるのに01:02:050まで引っ張ってるのはすごく違和感あるので青線まで狭めて 01:01:961で3連の方が音取り的にもしっくりきます。

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青線まで短くしてせっかくのSD6なので連打でつなぎました

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01:01:604 (2) - to be honest I don't see that this has anything to support it in music unless you do it from 01:01:961 - other than that the above is overmap

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ok

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01:02:139 (1,2,3) - でかすぎる気が...

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01:04:996 (1,2,3) - こういうとこのkiaiよりも大きくなってるから間隔調節したほうが良いと思う

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ok

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01:02:318 (5) - no particular reason for nc

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removed nc

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01:03:389 (3) - the slider is a bit off center. Should not be a problem but 01:03:389 (3,4) - pattern make it quite clear to see

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fix~

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01:03:925 (1) - ここのnc不要だと思う。
ボーカルに合わせてるのかもだけど、01:04:104 (2) ここでなんかしらの音入ってるし
01:03:925 (1) こことって 01:04:104 (2) ここにつけるといいと思う

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ok

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ボーカルに合わせてるなら01:03:925 - にNCでも構いません。むしろこの曲なら01:03:925 - にNC入れたほうが自然です。01:06:782 (1) - 01:15:354 (1) - みたいにボーカルに合わせて追加してるところがあるので、俺は01:03:925 - (ほかにも同じ箇所はあります)に入れる派です。

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ほかパートに合わせました

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01:03:925 (1,2) - 01:04:639 (5,6) - maybe change to 1/2 slider? I think intense jumps is not fitting anything here when you can consistently follow the vocals here

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01:25:532 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - is a good place for you to put pp jumps here, but spaming 1/2 when theres are vocal feel kinda awkward because its not mapping to the song at all

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01:03:925 (1,2) - 01:04:639 (5,6) - and all parts similar to here Fixed by adding a slider, 01:08:568 (2,3) - 01:08:925 (4 ,5) - 01:09:996 (2,3) - 01:10:354 (4,5) - is an enlivening expression I think it's a good idea to keep it as well as to differentiate it from other difficulty levels.

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01:08:389 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - ここだけど、
こんなでかいジャンプが入るようなパートだとは、思わなかった。
前のパートとかと比べてボーカルとか他の音の強さに差もないし
スライダーとか入れて変えたほうがベターだと思う

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スライダーを入れるとExtra diffと内容が変わらないので単発を残したいのでナーフをすることで解決します

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01:13:746 (3) - remove NC, I don't see it as necessary

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01:14:104 (1,2) - and 01:02:675 (1,2) - are similar in terms of rhythm and intensity but 01:14:104 (1,2) - it has less intensity, try to do something such as 01:02:675 (1,2) - to maintain consistency

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01:17:675 (3) - stack on sliderend from 01:16:961 (1) -

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ok

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01:19:996 (2,3) - 01:20:354 (4,5) - change to 1-2 slider to follow vocal and space 01:20:711 (1,2) - out? the clap should be emphasized here imo

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I can understand ur trying to make the map become harder but spaming 1/2 for no reason is not a good way to do that, u can try to put intense jumps in where the song support and not everywhere in the map imo, like 03:02:675 - is a great job because the music is supporting the intense jumps

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Like this one. I fixed it to #1683511

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01:23:032 (2,3) このスタック2個でいい感じに音にあった配置してるのに、01:23:389 (1,2,1,2) ここで一気にジャンプ来てるから音に合わせて間隔調節したほうが良いと思う

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調整しました

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01:23:389 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - gradually increase the spacing of the jumps,

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I've adjusted it.

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01:23:389 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - I don't feel that 1/2 spam was necessary, the usual combo would do well for this area

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01:25:532 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - ここも全部whistle追加してください
samplesetでdrumにしてるところはadditionsでsoftにしてから追加してください

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01:31:604 (3) - could be 1/1 slider+ 01:32:139 - cirlce, to be consistent with 01:33:211 (3,4) - as well as to use some more 1/1 rhythm in this part

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01:36:068 (4,1,2) - 単発だけなの密度上がっちゃうから1/1スライダーとかにまとめちゃうのがいいと思う

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1/2のリバースに変更

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01:37:318 (2,3,4,5,6,1) - この近さの間隔ははここのパートで使ってないからもう少し離した方がいいと思う

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01:38:389 (1,2,3,4,5) - 01:36:246 (1,2,3,4,1) - は代わりにがっつりやりすぎだと思う

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間隔の調整をしました

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01:39:818 (1) - to make zone 01:40:711 (1) more intuitive - so it doesn't feel so empty, I suggest putting a circle on the trend of 01:39:818 (1) - Leaving it 1/3. try this.

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try.

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01:39:818 (1) - ここはあえて何も置かないほうが曲に合う気がする

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消し

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01:42:586 (1) - 上の難易度なのに簡略化しちゃってるからExtraに合わせた方がいいと思う。プレイした感じひどかったらinsaneみたいにドラムに逃げるべきかもしれない

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Extraと統一

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01:46:425 (4,5) - the flow is a bit abrupt since you mostly use smooth flow in this section (maybe except down beat). maybe try something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/15081232/5c02

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01:53:032 (1,2) - maybe slider here instead? 01:53:211 (2) - is barely audiable as well as slider would make 01:53:389 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - more distinct

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keep

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01:54:461 (2,3,4) - この3つのスライダー、01:57:318 (2,3,4) - みたいな形作ったほうが見た目良くなると思います

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01:56:246 (3,4,5,6) - 真四角だと綺麗に見えていいかもです。(好みの問題なのでアレ)

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変更なしで!

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01:57:675 (3,4) - these to catch the rhythm go one tick later specifically at 01:57:764 -

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The sound here is less deceptive and less playable.
I'm not going to change it here.

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02:03:032 (3,4,5) - is a pattern similar to 00:34:104 (1,2,3) - regarding rhythm and intensity, but in 02:03:032 (3,4,5) - you left the same intensity for everything, I suggest increasing the spacing

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I reshaped it and made it wider.

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02:08:032 (1,2,3,4) -  ここもう少し膨らませたほうがいいかも

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緩急のためにkeep

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02:13:925 (2) - 02:13:568 (1) - にblanketしたい

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ok

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02:16:961 (1,1,1,1) - slider end ミュートし忘れ?

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検討

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thanks

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02:25:354 (3,1) - topdiffだし三連打にしてもいいかも

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ok

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02:25:354 (3,4,1) - ここも 02:24:639 (4) と不自然なスタックしてるからちょいスタックorスタックとかで変えたほうがいいかも こんな感じとか?:https://imgur.com/a/RRA0zbC

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前後のジャンプの形を変えてスタックを回避しました

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02:26:782 (3) - kickにするような音ないから単発でいい気がする

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02:26:961 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - would do something like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/15081264/81f0 so that objects are more in line

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Improve by putting the jumps in the triangle combination more neatly

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02:29:818 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - maybe something like this https://i.imgur.com/QQc0DXU.jpg here? they're different from all the others in terms of flow, and are really tricky compered to the rest

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02:39:282 (5,6,7,1) - kiaiに比べてもやりすぎな謎ジャンプなので小さくした方がよさそう

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小さくしました

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02:42:318 (6,7) - ドラム通りなら1/2スライダーのほうが上手く取れる気がする

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top diffなので1/4のリズムに変更して前後の形を変えました

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02:53:389 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - 流れがすごく違和感あるので、02:53:211 (4,2) - スタックとかにしたほうがよさそう

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02:53:211 (4,2) - のスタックはおそらく指定ミスだと思われます。
02:53:389 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - の違和感の解消を自分なりにやります

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02:54:104 (1,2) - が浮いてるように見えるので、02:58:389 (1,2) - 03:01:246 (1,2) - も3/4+単発にしてみては?

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02:57:318 (2,3) - ctrl + g to better catch voices

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ok!

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03:07:318 (1,1,2) - 後半の二つのノーツは音取りできてるけど前半の1/8は音無い気がする…
それだったら画像みたいに1つのスライダーにして03:08:389 - まで引っ張ってもいいかもね https://yuiyui.s-ul.eu/e3tZsY1B

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AIMを止める効果をねらってリバースにしていてのちの二つの落ち着いたSVにつなげる為なのでキープしておきたい

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03:07:318 (3,1) - 大して音ないのに遠ざけすぎてる気がする。SV下げてて流れも悪くなるので、もう少し縮めたほうがよさそう

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03:16:961 (1) - ギターそこまで伸びてないので、03:19:282 - からマッピング始めるほうが自然に感じる

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1/2スライダー+単発を追加しました

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03:30:889 (1,2) - 今のような配置より03:31:068 (2) - を上に配置させたい気もする
こんな感じにしたらどうかな 03:29:461 (1,2) - にstackさせてるだけだけどw https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/15093748/5911

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三角形の広がるジャンプに合わせるとちょっと強調が薄れる気がするので03:30:711 (2,2) - の位置を逆にしました

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03:32:318 (2,1) - blanket off

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fix~

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03:33:925 (1,2,3,4) - 伸ばすリズム結構使ってるし、こうしたほうがなじみそう。overmapする理由も見当たらないし
->https://i.imgur.com/rOGtFga.png

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リズムを変えて新しい配置に変えました

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03:44:104 (1,2,3,4) - 1/8のりバースでいいかも
03:35:175 (1) - ここと同じく

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ここには明確な1/4のドラムが鳴っているのでキープで

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03:53:032 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - ここ1,2の音、というかバックでそういう系の音が鳴ってないからovermapだと思う
俺はこんな感じの音取りにするけど何かしらのリズムに変えたほうがいい https://yuiyui.s-ul.eu/8qqPI8OY

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03:53:389 (1,2,1,2) - にはドラムのドコドコが小さいながらなっていて、管楽器の音階が変わっているのを再現するためにもスライダーではもったいないので広がるジャンプを置きたいのでキープ。03:53:211 (2) - には音が無かったので消してリズムを整えました。01:23:032 でも同様のリズムだったので変えました。http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/15094181/7f15

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