00:00:939 (939|2,1388|3) - Rising sounds are vague but this is really not synced right.
00:00:939 (939|2) - should be at 00:01:192 -
00:01:388 (1388|3) - is more debatable but the snap usage is a little awkward with how it flows and would feel more natural at 00:01:445
00:02:961 - I think it would be much more satisfying and better feeling with the song to continue the LN's like so:
and do the same with 00:05:658 - 00:08:355 - 00:11:051 - 00:13:748 - 00:16:445 -
and to be honest, I dont think 00:17:287 - is needed. we can hear a similar delay sound at the previous points like 00:11:894 - for example. I think its better to just remove 00:17:287 - . this will create space for the LN as well.
00:31:950 (31950|1,32119|1,32287|1) - I think we can avoid this stack, since it does not use a stack like this in any previous part.
I think the issues because this is a double 00:31:950 (31950|3,31950|1) -
when I think it should only be a single, I cant see any reason why it would be a double.
so simply just remove 00:31:950 (31950|1) - and it will be fixed.
00:35:574 (35574|2) - should be at 00:35:405 - (move to col 2)
00:38:270 (38270|1) - should be at 00:38:102 - (move to col 4)
00:45:012 - the higher pitch synth starts here so I think we can start some notes here
and I dont understand the concept of 1/8 snap for 00:45:265 (45265|0,45307|1,45349|3,45391|2,45433|1,45475|0,45518|2,45560|3) -
the sound is in 1/4 so it should be 1/4
00:48:636, 00:49:984 -, 00:58:074 - the LN should be stacked at these timestamps
compare to your other uses of this for the quick vocal 00:47:287 (47287|2,47456|2) - , 00:49:478 (49478|0,49647|0) - etc
01:00:096 (60096|2,60265|2) - Correct me if im wrong but I only hear one vocal note, so this shouldn't be a 1/2 jack.
tbh not rlly its just one prolonged vocal the pitch just changes but i see what u were going 4, u could just move it to 4 and then it would kinda be similar 2 01:00:939 (60939|0,61276|0,61613|0) - with the OH tension
00:59:422 (59422|2,59591|2) - also looks like this even tho these sounds r different
There's a subtle pitch shift and syllable repeat (ii kinda sound) that warrants it imo. No need to argue over something as minor as this, Edgy can either move it to a different column or keep it as is and it'll be the same effect.
01:14:085 (74085|2,74085|3) - I want to know why this is suddenly a double LN for vocals?
what I see in the parts here are all using single LN if coupled with kick or snare, you will use LN+rice. maybe for me it's better to change one of the LNs to rice will be much more consistent IMO.
01:15:349 (75349|2,75518|0,75686|0) - Remove these to be consistent with hihat expression, add a note at 01:15:265 - in col 4 for triple consistency, move 01:15:433 (75433|3) to col 1
01:18:973 (78973|1,78973|0,78973|3) - I see the intention though I think given that this is a transition to the drop, the releases should be a bit less tighter as it's not that prominent. How about 1/6 as a medium?
01:21:164 (81164|0,81206|1,81248|2,81501|2,81543|1,81585|0) - This applies to every instance of this pattern.
Since the synths are progressively weaker, This current expression doesn't reflect it that well as it treats them the same (it's also a little awkward to play with 01:21:669 (81669|2) - )
How about:
01:21:164 (81164|0,81206|1,81248|2) - decrease by 1/16
01:21:501 (81501|2,81543|1,81585|0) - make these 3/16 LNs (one line above 1/8)
I think this better reflects the progression. Again, applies to every similar instance from here (including ones that changed like 01:42:737 - and such)
01:26:220 (86220|0,86304|1,86388|0,86473|1,86557|0,86599|1) - Don't like how this plays as a transition, think it'd play a lot more nicer to just flip 01:26:557 (86557|0,86599|1,86641|2,86725|3,86810|0,86894|3,86894|2,86936|1,86978|0,87063|3,87063|2,87147|1) -
01:32:119 (92119|0) - move to col 4
01:40:124 (100124|1) - remove, and extend 01:39:872 (99872|1) - to 01:40:209 -
01:42:905 (102905|3) - col 1 and 01:42:990 (102990|2) - to col 4
01:48:299 (108299|0) - to col 4 and 01:48:383 (108383|1) - to col 1
01:48:383 (108383|1) - single and missing a 1/4 LN (put it on col 2)
01:49:647 (109647|3) - to col 3
01:43:242 (103242|1,103242|2,103242|0) - Suddenly a triple despite only being mapped as doubles before - think you should stick to doubles here not only for consistency, but also because it plays nicer. With how you structure the LNs it's often pretty awkward to be hitting stuff like 01:43:116 (103116|2,103158|3,103242|2,103327|3,103411|2) - especially with the release gaps
02:01:529 (121529|1) - remove and extend 02:01:360 (121360|1) - 1/4 longer. Make 02:01:445 (121445|3) - a 1/4 LN
02:01:613 (121613|3) - 1/4 shorter and 02:01:697 (121697|1) - 1/4 longer. More nicer visually
02:02:203 (122203|1) - remove, extend 02:02:119 (122119|2) - to the red 1/2 line, reduce 02:02:287 (122287|0) - down to 1/4 LN
02:01:613 (121613|2,121613|3,121697|0,121697|1,121866|2) - This feels unnatural to play. You miss an important 1/1 sound 02:01:782 - which is clearly part of this rhythm, yet it's interrupted and instead resumes in 1/4 at 02:01:866.
ive rlly only seen "clickable (active)" vs "non-clickable (passive)" talked abt in std bc it doesnt rlly make sense to use in mania most of the time
especially if ur using inverse u are actually making it less emphasized, all of the emphasis goes on 02:01:866 (121866|2) - this note since all the motion with ur finger is focused on sustaining and hitting, not necessarily releasing (consciously)
i think it would make sense if u omitted 02:01:866 (121866|2) - or mayb smth else
I think the rhythm just needs to be shifted down by 1/2 cause 02:01:866 (121866|2) - is on silence. Just do smth like this:
02:02:119 (122119|3,122119|0,122119|2,122287|3,122287|1,122287|0,122372|2) - Staggered releases are not inherently bad but they need a purpose to them. These are just snares, I don't see why they are used like this.
Same with 03:18:973 (198973|3,198973|0,199141|0,199141|3), 04:23:355 (263355|0,263355|1,263439|3,263439|2,263523|0,263523|1,263607|2,263692|0,263692|1) and 05:36:501 (336501|0,336501|3,336669|3,336669|0,336838|0,336838|3) -
03:40:546 (220546|0,220546|2,220546|3,220714|0,220714|3,220714|1) - Why is it not done here then?
02:04:057 (124057|3,124141|3) - Only minijack this section, music keeps consistent so this feels out of place. Just move 02:04:141 (124141|3) to col 1
02:23:270 - The LN usage here doesn't follow the background melody well, some LNs dont represent it and some are ignored. It should be something like this:
02:23:186 (143186|0,143523|1) - These should be LNs
02:23:270 (143270|3,143607|2) - These should be regular notes
02:23:186 (143186|0,143270|3) - like u could just swap these and it would make more sense rhythmically since theres not even synth sound on 02:23:270 (143270|3) -
02:23:523 (143523|1,143523|0) - omit makes sense but u never rlly do it in the map otherwise
Synth doesn't noticeably come in until 02:23:355 - , just reduce 02:23:270 (143270|3) - to rice and make one of the rice notes 02:23:523 (143523|1,143523|0) - a 1/4 LN here instead.
Better to start new pattern types on a downbeat.
02:25:040 - 02:44:085 -> I'd like for you to look at this whole section again and remove any 1/4 notes that aren't following the hihats and are just ghost notes. While I think it works in the kiais for progression, here it feels rather forced and gets in the way of the more important sounds, so I'd suggest removing any note that isn't following anything.
02:27:905 (147905|0,148242|1,148579|2) - Would be a lot more beneficial to shorten these to 1/2 LNs for cleaner gameplay and it makes more sense with the vocals. When you do this, move 02:28:495 (148495|3) - to col 2
Same with 02:30:602 (150602|2,150939|1,151276|0) and 02:38:692 (158692|2,159029|1,159366|2) -
02:29:085 (149085|1,149085|0) -
02:29:759 (149759|1,149759|2) -
02:31:782 (151782|1,151782|0) -
02:37:175 (157175|2) -
02:38:860 (158860|0,158860|3) -
02:39:872 (159872|1,159872|3) -
These aren't mapped to vocals though. And as mentioned in the original post, the change between double or single LNs for the vocals doesn't seem like it's following some sort of logic behind the vocals at least.
Suggestion: Just make all vocal double if it lands on a double (e.g. 02:28:916 (148916|0) - 02:31:613 (151613|0) - ), otherwise it's a single. The ones like 02:29:085 (149085|0,149085|1) - or 02:29:759 (149759|2,149759|1) - should be reduced back down to rice.
02:30:602 - From here it gets a bit too loaded on the left hand, not that fun to play. Would just recommend switching 02:31:023 (151023|1,151107|3,151192|1) and moving 02:31:360 (151360|3) - to col 3 to avoid long col 4 trill
02:36:838 (156838|2,156922|3,157006|0,157006|2,157091|1,157175|2,157175|0,157259|3) -
a bit too awkward patterning here and i dont really see why.
probably best to keep it as a pattern that is more in-line with the rest of the patterning
I have no idea what you mean by groovy melody because the music hasnt changed much here and is still focused on vocals + if that was the case, again you just do this out of nowhere, there's no flow to it so it doesn't feel natural especially when the vocals is what you've entirely established in your patterns up to this point.
basically what guden said
02:48:636 (168636|2,168636|1) - Should just be the LN only, you only use doubles for kicks this section so feels inconsistent to suddenly use it for filler
Similarly, 02:49:478 - this should be a double for kick only and 02:50:658 - for snare
03:13:832 (193832|0,193832|1), 03:56:136 (236136|0,236136|2), 04:08:523 - Same reason should just be a single
02:46:782, 02:47:287, 02:49:478 - double as well
02:50:658 - triple
03:13:832 (193832|0,193832|1), 03:56:136 (236136|0,236136|2), 04:08:523 - should still only be singles
02:51:501 (171501|1,171585|0,171669|3) - What's the point of the releases here? You don't do this with the vocals anywhere else.
03:04:478 (184478|1,184563|0,184647|1,184731|0,184815|1,184900|0,184984|1) - Ignoring the LN inconsistency, this is suddenly very biased with a long left hand trill and as a result the gameplay feels awkward. Would be nice to rearrange this a bit so it's more balanced.
um i don tthink so considering u have an anchor on 03:03:973 (183973|1,184141|1,184310|1,184478|1,184647|1) - in the middle of inverse which then transitions mid-way into an OH trill 03:04:478 (184478|1,184563|0,184647|1,184731|0,184815|1) - it puts a lot of tension onto smth that doesnt rlly have a tangible idea so it does feel random
03:08:018 (188018|1,188186|0,188355|1) - These LNs don't even follow anything and the releases make this really awkward to play properly. Just make them regular notes. The jumptrill shouldn't even be here either, why is it different from 03:29:591 despite being the same?
Similarly, 03:27:063 (207063|3,207147|2) - these should just be connected to each other.
03:11:810 - Missing note here for hihat. If you're trying to avoid long col 2 trill, flip 03:11:051 (191051|2,191136|1), move 03:11:725 (191725|0) - to col 4, switch 03:11:894 (191894|0,191978|1) - and you can add a note on col 1 for 03:11:810
You rarely ever do this imbalance anywhere else, and it doesn't address my concern that the way it plays out is awkward due to what has already been established throughout most pattern choices here. It does not play well with how the LNs are handled on the same hand as the trills/anchors.
03:22:933 (202933|2,203018|3,203102|2) - It'd play better if these were switched and then put 03:23:186 (203186|1) - on col 3, overall this pattern is a bit awkward on the left hand as you have most of the anchors/long releases on col 1 atm.
03:33:636 (213636|2) - The release should end at 03:33:973 - which you've established for vocals like these.
03:36:332 (216332|2,216416|3,216501|0,216501|2,216838|2,216838|1) - What are these LNs following? The singer doesn't have extra notes here, or an echo, so these feel like filler.
Ok I understand 03:36:501 (216501|0) - based on another response but 03:36:332 (216332|2,216416|3,216501|2,216838|1,216838|2) - the snare doesn't really warant this much attention especially since this isn't something you do anywhere else. If that was the case why is it not done with 03:35:827 or 03:37:175 -
03:40:040 (220040|1,220040|3,220040|0,220124|2,220209|3,220293|1,220377|0,220377|3,220461|1) - I don't get why the LNs here have complex releases when the instrumental is just simple drums..please simplify these or make them regular notes, this really isn't necessary.
03:54:366 (234366|0,234703|3,235040|2,235377|0) - You follow the background melody now when you haven't done so before. I don't know if you are because you ignore 03:55:546. Just make them regular notes to keep consistent.
03:56:304 (236304|3,236473|3,236641|3,236810|3) - Not very nice to play out of nowhere with a long right hand release. I'd suggest reworking how the LNs are mapped to the vocals here as some of it feels a bit random, or at least shorten 03:56:388 (236388|2) for the other LNs next to it and to give more room for the notes to avoid this trill.
03:58:074 - 04:00:433 - I'm trying not to be repetitive here, but..again, what are these LNs trying to follow? Because it's definitely not the vocals.
Same with 04:10:546 (250546|3,250883|2,251220|1,251304|2,251388|3) and the LNs after.
04:07:849 - This does not play as nicely as it should with how LNs are just randomly thrown in, loosely representing the vocals, if there even is any at all. Some notes don't even represent anything.
04:07:933 (247933|0,248270|0), 04:08:945 (248945|1,249282|3), 04:10:124 (250124|1,250293|1), 04:10:630 (250630|2,250967|0) - Do these even represent anything?
04:23:018 (263018|2,263102|3,263102|1,263102|0) - The emphasis doesn't feel right here, there's two snares yet only one is emphasized and it's as a triple in the 1/4 snap?
regarding the speaking section. the timings are quite off on many of the words/sounds
04:26:725 - should actually start at 04:26:754 -
and the "wa" starts here: 04:27:034 -
so the timing there is like this:
04:27:737 - this one is very off, it starts closer to 04:27:793 - and then the next sound at 04:27:933 -
(also the 1/12 gap between these releases is pretty yikes)
04:30:433 - move to 04:30:490 -
04:31:782 - move to 04:31:810 -
04:33:804 - move to 04:33:776 -
04:33:916 - move to 04:33:888 -
04:34:029 - move to 04:34:001 -
04:35:490 - move to 04:35:518 -
04:36:051 - move to 04:36:079 -
04:38:411 - move to 04:38:383 -
04:38:692 - move to 04:38:720 -
04:40:967 - move to 04:40:995 -
04:41:107 - move to 04:41:051 -
04:29:422 (269422|1) - Move to col 1 and 04:40:209 (280209|2) - to col 4. Since these are seperate from the talking I think moving them to a different col would not only make them stand out better, but also play more better as currently these are really awkward transitions to make and aren't fun to do.
04:30:321 (270321|0) - I think you made a little mistake with the snap, because the voice starts later , need like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/19021445/0e80
(you can applied after second check)
04:38:916 (278916|3,279029|3) - it seems to me that you can emphasize the vocals in this way, since it repeats KA-KA https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/19021446/2e47 , just like you did it here 04:28:158 (268158|2,268299|2) -
04:40:770 (280770|0,280883|3,280995|0,281051|3,281164|0,281220|3,281332|0) - If this is meant for the fading "shitara", these feel really out of sync and is annoying to play as a result.
Better synced with the vocal, and also plays better.
04:48:130 (288130|2,288299|2,288467|2,288636|2) - This anchor is a bit ugly to play, how about switching the LN lengths for 04:48:299 (288299|0,288299|2) - and move 04:48:467 (288467|2) - to col 1?
04:54:450 - add note for hi hat,
and unnecessary stack 04:54:197 (294197|2,294366|2,294534|2) -
need double at 04:55:714 - so add a note somewhere
unnecessary stack 04:56:051 (296051|2,296220|2,296388|2) -
need to add notes for hi hat at 04:55:630 - 04:55:799 -
05:08:860 (308860|3,308916|2,308973|1,309029|0,309085|1,309197|2) - You could make this more visually pleasing and satisfying to play imo
Represents the vocal better and is visually better and nicer to play
05:24:872 (324872|3,324914|2,324956|1,324998|0) - What is this roll for? It's just a crash.
Same with 05:35:742 (335742|3,335784|2)
05:32:456 (332456|0,332456|2,332540|3,332624|2,332709|1,332793|3,332793|0,332961|2) - This was indirectly mentioned in the general post, but felt like bringing up separately. Vocal doesn't play here anymore, you are better off just making these regular notes.
05:35:784 (335784|2) - Suddenly using 1/8 here feels off when it's still the 1/4 snares - would just make this a double with 05:35:742 (335742|3) -
05:47:231 (347231|0) - Did you misnap this? It's just a 1/4 percussion here. On that note, 05:47:119 (347119|1,347203|2,347287|3,347372|0,347456|1,347540|2) - these LNs do not feel nice to play the way they are structured, especially since the releases don't accentuate anything. Just make them 1/4 releases.
05:58:411 - the 1/6 is fine to dump vocals but lets not have any sudden stacked notes which will be more disruptive for the player visually and playability.
these:
05:59:254 (359254|3,359366|3) -
05:59:647 (359647|0,359703|3,359759|0,359815|3) -
05:59:984 (359984|0,360096|0) -
06:01:332 (361332|3,361445|3) -
for example the rearranging at 05:59:254 - could look like this
05:59:422 (359422|1) - random non-LN note mixed in there
making it LN doesnt work either because it goes against my suggestion on this section above.
probably should make these two LN as well for consistency 06:02:456 (362456|0,362793|3) -
06:01:107 (361107|0) - lets also reduce this LN a bit, its too long i think. better to end at 06:01:248 -
06:17:119 (377119|3,377119|2) - Single, nothing to emphasize that you didnt before
06:17:287 (377287|1,377287|2) - triple for crash