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00:00:939 - the fade in sound starts here, so we should be starting the LN at this point

here is my suggestion, in order to create a full shield of the next triple

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kay

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start the note at 00:00:939 - as mentioned, starting at 00:01:108 - is too late.

so each note should be:
00:00:939 -
00:01:388 -
00:01:782 -

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sure

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00:00:939 (939|2,1388|3) - Rising sounds are vague but this is really not synced right.

00:00:939 (939|2) - should be at 00:01:192 -
00:01:388 (1388|3) - is more debatable but the snap usage is a little awkward with how it flows and would feel more natural at 00:01:445

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honestly its 100% subjective so this dont matter at all

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The second timestamp is debatable but the first one is very much way too early.

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It's clearly not vague, there's just no sound there

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Nevermind I got a second opinion and they said there's a sound. Guess I'm deaf, my mistake

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00:02:961 - I think it would be much more satisfying and better feeling with the song to continue the LN's like so:

and do the same with 00:05:658 - 00:08:355 - 00:11:051 - 00:13:748 - 00:16:445 -

and to be honest, I dont think 00:17:287 - is needed. we can hear a similar delay sound at the previous points like 00:11:894 - for example. I think its better to just remove 00:17:287 - . this will create space for the LN as well.

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00:25:967 - missing note?

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00:31:950 (31950|1,32119|1,32287|1) - I think we can avoid this stack, since it does not use a stack like this in any previous part.

I think the issues because this is a double 00:31:950 (31950|3,31950|1) -
when I think it should only be a single, I cant see any reason why it would be a double.
so simply just remove 00:31:950 (31950|1) - and it will be fixed.

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sure

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00:35:574 (35574|2) - should be at 00:35:405 - (move to col 2)
00:38:270 (38270|1) - should be at 00:38:102 - (move to col 4)

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00:45:012 - the higher pitch synth starts here so I think we can start some notes here
and I dont understand the concept of 1/8 snap for 00:45:265 (45265|0,45307|1,45349|3,45391|2,45433|1,45475|0,45518|2,45560|3) -
the sound is in 1/4 so it should be 1/4

This is what I would recommend

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uhh sure i dont know why I made it 1/8 in the first place LMAO

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00:48:636, 00:49:984 -, 00:58:074 - the LN should be stacked at these timestamps

compare to your other uses of this for the quick vocal 00:47:287 (47287|2,47456|2) - , 00:49:478 (49478|0,49647|0) - etc


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its also possible that 01:00:096 - could be stacked as well, but since the vocal is a bit more ambiguous there, it would also be fine to ignore the stack depending on your preference.

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right

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01:00:096 (60096|2,60265|2) - Correct me if im wrong but I only hear one vocal note, so this shouldn't be a 1/2 jack.

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theres 2 vocal notes.

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tbh not rlly its just one prolonged vocal the pitch just changes but i see what u were going 4, u could just move it to 4 and then it would kinda be similar 2 01:00:939 (60939|0,61276|0,61613|0) - with the OH tension
00:59:422 (59422|2,59591|2) - also looks like this even tho these sounds r different

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Reopened by guden

There's a subtle pitch shift and syllable repeat (ii kinda sound) that warrants it imo. No need to argue over something as minor as this, Edgy can either move it to a different column or keep it as is and it'll be the same effect.

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thanks for your input as well but there is really no need to be reductive about it, its a simple and valid suggestion for a simple issue to fix (literally takes longer to type a response). so im confused on why its an issue to clarify if the map is alrdy dqd ?

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its two sylables, し(shi) and ん(n) from the word 深呼吸 (shinkokyuu). I honestly don't care about it being eitherway but saying is a issue is kinda dumb tbh

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01:12:400 (72400|3,72400|0,72400|1,72484|2) - instead of triple to single, do double to double and make it entirely LNs to be consistent with snare LN expression

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01:12:568 (72568|1,72568|0,72737|1,72737|3,72905|3,72905|0,72905|1) - Emphasis here is a bit random

Respectively, it should go triple - single - then triple again.

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01:14:085 (74085|2,74085|3) - I want to know why this is suddenly a double LN for vocals?

what I see in the parts here are all using single LN if coupled with kick or snare, you will use LN+rice. maybe for me it's better to change one of the LNs to rice will be much more consistent IMO.

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yeah its better as a single LN

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01:15:349 (75349|2,75518|0,75686|0) - Remove these to be consistent with hihat expression, add a note at 01:15:265 - in col 4 for triple consistency, move 01:15:433 (75433|3) to col 1

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01:16:192 - should have triple here because just previously triple was attributed for snare at 01:15:602 -

add col 4:

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ok

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01:18:973 (78973|1,78973|0,78973|3) - I see the intention though I think given that this is a transition to the drop, the releases should be a bit less tighter as it's not that prominent. How about 1/6 as a medium?

02:57:400 (177400|0,177400|2,177400|3) - Same

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01:21:164 (81164|0,81206|1,81248|2,81501|2,81543|1,81585|0) - This applies to every instance of this pattern.

Since the synths are progressively weaker, This current expression doesn't reflect it that well as it treats them the same (it's also a little awkward to play with 01:21:669 (81669|2) - )

How about:
01:21:164 (81164|0,81206|1,81248|2) - decrease by 1/16
01:21:501 (81501|2,81543|1,81585|0) - make these 3/16 LNs (one line above 1/8)

I think this better reflects the progression. Again, applies to every similar instance from here (including ones that changed like 01:42:737 - and such)

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01:22:933 - is there any reason the sound was ignored here? the sudden gap in stream is a bit weird in my opinion, better to make a constant flow.

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03:01:360 - same add col 1 pls

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forgor

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done

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01:28:579 - and 01:50:152 - It will fit better with the finish sounds to have them as triple instead of double for a more consistent expression.

for 01:28:579 -

for 01:50:152 -

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03:07:006 - and 03:28:579 - as well

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sure

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01:28:916 - do this

  • You should apply this same pattern to 01:50:490 as they're the same sounds. Way too inconsistent to use entirely different patterns for this
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makes sense

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01:29:254 (89254|1) - can be shortened like this to be more in line with the musical atmosphere in this part imo. subjective not too serious

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yeah, can do it

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01:31:276 (91276|3) - This would be a lot prettier if reduced to 1/4

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01:32:119 (92119|0) - move to col 4
01:40:124 (100124|1) - remove, and extend 01:39:872 (99872|1) - to 01:40:209 -

01:42:905 (102905|3) - col 1 and 01:42:990 (102990|2) - to col 4

01:48:299 (108299|0) - to col 4 and 01:48:383 (108383|1) - to col 1
01:48:383 (108383|1) - single and missing a 1/4 LN (put it on col 2)
01:49:647 (109647|3) - to col 3

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01:34:647 - you can use a release like this if you want will fit better and look connected to each other, where the LNs in the first part of the second are together

especially 01:34:984 - no need for 1 extra note here

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ok

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01:43:242 (103242|1,103242|2,103242|0) - Suddenly a triple despite only being mapped as doubles before - think you should stick to doubles here not only for consistency, but also because it plays nicer. With how you structure the LNs it's often pretty awkward to be hitting stuff like 01:43:116 (103116|2,103158|3,103242|2,103327|3,103411|2) - especially with the release gaps

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01:44:422 (104422|1,104422|3) - These should switch imo, suddenly having this long LN anchor on col 4 feels a bit out of place especially since the vocal is not keeping the same pitch

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01:45:770 (105770|1) - can be used the same as #4269260 here, where the vocals get thinner every 1/4 snap from 01:45:939 - here

so using the same thing is a good thing imo

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sure

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01:49:310 (109310|3) - can be extended like this feels less optimal when I play with the previous pattern, where the vocals feel bland

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01:51:164 - personally I think it would be better to add some variation instead of the constant split trill motion, since there are many different drum sounds being used, it makes sense to have the variation.

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first two is okay but the last one ill make it the same for the ln visual patterning

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01:57:905 (117905|0,118074|3,118748|0) - What are these LNs following?

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prolonged vocals.

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02:01:529 (121529|1) - remove and extend 02:01:360 (121360|1) - 1/4 longer. Make 02:01:445 (121445|3) - a 1/4 LN
02:01:613 (121613|3) - 1/4 shorter and 02:01:697 (121697|1) - 1/4 longer. More nicer visually
02:02:203 (122203|1) - remove, extend 02:02:119 (122119|2) - to the red 1/2 line, reduce 02:02:287 (122287|0) - down to 1/4 LN

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02:01:613 - again I dont understand the weird snap, the sounds are all on 1/4, so we should be mapping 1/4 here as well.

(also, you only have single at 02:02:456 - which is just wrong, it should probably be triple.)

here is an option

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okay

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02:01:613 (121613|2,121613|3,121697|0,121697|1,121866|2) - This feels unnatural to play. You miss an important 1/1 sound 02:01:782 - which is clearly part of this rhythm, yet it's interrupted and instead resumes in 1/4 at 02:01:866.

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fake emphasis by using inverse strain instead of clickable rhythms.

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ive rlly only seen "clickable (active)" vs "non-clickable (passive)" talked abt in std bc it doesnt rlly make sense to use in mania most of the time
especially if ur using inverse u are actually making it less emphasized, all of the emphasis goes on 02:01:866 (121866|2) - this note since all the motion with ur finger is focused on sustaining and hitting, not necessarily releasing (consciously)
i think it would make sense if u omitted 02:01:866 (121866|2) - or mayb smth else

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Reopened by guden

I think the rhythm just needs to be shifted down by 1/2 cause 02:01:866 (121866|2) - is on silence. Just do smth like this:

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following prot's suggestion since it makes more sense than what was previously

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visual/aesthetic purpose that dont affect gameplay since the releases are really close to the intended rhythm.

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Reopened by Monoseul

yeah idk why I was so keen on staggering releases LMAO just made them 1/4 with a 3/8 release for a emphasis on the kick+snare

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02:04:057 (124057|3,124141|3) - Only minijack this section, music keeps consistent so this feels out of place. Just move 02:04:141 (124141|3) to col 1

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02:23:270 - The LN usage here doesn't follow the background melody well, some LNs dont represent it and some are ignored. It should be something like this:

02:23:186 (143186|0,143523|1) - These should be LNs
02:23:270 (143270|3,143607|2) - These should be regular notes

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really subjective and this emphasis fits right for me sooo

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can u explain more

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Reopened by guden

02:23:186 (143186|0,143270|3) - like u could just swap these and it would make more sense rhythmically since theres not even synth sound on 02:23:270 (143270|3) -
02:23:523 (143523|1,143523|0) - omit makes sense but u never rlly do it in the map otherwise

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Synth doesn't noticeably come in until 02:23:355 - , just reduce 02:23:270 (143270|3) - to rice and make one of the rice notes 02:23:523 (143523|1,143523|0) - a 1/4 LN here instead.

Better to start new pattern types on a downbeat.

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rearranged most of the lns so i think its fine noww

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02:24:113 - if you follow the melody from the beginning using mini LN 02:23:607 - it should end here 02:24:703 - you can adjust it to your style or maybe you can change it like this

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02:25:040 - 02:44:085 -> I'd like for you to look at this whole section again and remove any 1/4 notes that aren't following the hihats and are just ghost notes. While I think it works in the kiais for progression, here it feels rather forced and gets in the way of the more important sounds, so I'd suggest removing any note that isn't following anything.

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i think the ghost notes are fine but yeah this works better

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02:25:714 vs. 02:36:501 - these should be the same pattern

02:37:006 vs. 02:26:220

02:27:063 vs. 02:37:849

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02:27:905 (147905|0,148242|1,148579|2) - Would be a lot more beneficial to shorten these to 1/2 LNs for cleaner gameplay and it makes more sense with the vocals. When you do this, move 02:28:495 (148495|3) - to col 2

Same with 02:30:602 (150602|2,150939|1,151276|0) and 02:38:692 (158692|2,159029|1,159366|2) -

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02:29:085 - From here you suddenly switch the LN usage to represent snares as well, when you didn't do that before (02:26:388, 02:28:411, etc..) but then you sometimes don't do it, like 02:31:107.

Also shouldn't 02:28:916 - be a double LN for kick and vocal?

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no, the ln usage is still on vocals

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how is the ln usage still on the vocals and can u reference other parts of the map where ur using the same logic for this type of patterning so its easier to understand ur intentions?

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02:29:085 (149085|1,149085|0) -
02:29:759 (149759|1,149759|2) -
02:31:782 (151782|1,151782|0) -
02:37:175 (157175|2) -
02:38:860 (158860|0,158860|3) -
02:39:872 (159872|1,159872|3) -

These aren't mapped to vocals though. And as mentioned in the original post, the change between double or single LNs for the vocals doesn't seem like it's following some sort of logic behind the vocals at least.

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Suggestion: Just make all vocal double if it lands on a double (e.g. 02:28:916 (148916|0) - 02:31:613 (151613|0) - ), otherwise it's a single. The ones like 02:29:085 (149085|0,149085|1) - or 02:29:759 (149759|2,149759|1) - should be reduced back down to rice.

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02:30:602 - From here it gets a bit too loaded on the left hand, not that fun to play. Would just recommend switching 02:31:023 (151023|1,151107|3,151192|1) and moving 02:31:360 (151360|3) - to col 3 to avoid long col 4 trill

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wasn't applied?

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Reopened by Monoseul

oh

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02:36:838 (156838|2,156922|3,157006|0,157006|2,157091|1,157175|2,157175|0,157259|3) -
a bit too awkward patterning here and i dont really see why.

probably best to keep it as a pattern that is more in-line with the rest of the patterning

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rearranged

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02:39:619 - Missing a 1/4 note here, you could just add it on col 4 and move 02:39:534 (159534|3) - to col 3

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02:43:748 - Missing triple for crash - could just add it on col 4 and move 02:43:832 (163832|3) - to col 3

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02:44:085 - Do this, more visually pleasing and nicer to play

  • You should apply a similar pattern for 02:54:872 -
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02:45:602 - 02:49:225 - What are the LNs even following? It's barely representing anything in a consistent manner.

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used a different type of representation to a unique section of the song (the extended lns are representing the tame melodies with contrast with the not changing vocals)

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still quite confusing tbh, what makes it so unique that u change like ur entire layering scheme? the percussion changing rhythm seems 2 be the most different thing here but its a bit unclear how that would affect ur entire layering

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Reopened by guden

synths and vocals now

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02:46:782 (166782|0) - 1/6? Doesn't it just end here 02:47:203 - ?

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oops

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02:46:950 - Why is the vocal suddenly ignored here

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not following stricly vocals in this section, focusing more on the groovy melodies

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as a player i would probably play this and ask "how am i supposed to predict that when u were following vocals 4 the entire map and they r the most prominent part here" especially cus ur ignoring a downbeat, it kind of ruins the entire rhythm of this part

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I have no idea what you mean by groovy melody because the music hasnt changed much here and is still focused on vocals + if that was the case, again you just do this out of nowhere, there's no flow to it so it doesn't feel natural especially when the vocals is what you've entirely established in your patterns up to this point.

basically what guden said

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02:48:636 (168636|2,168636|1) - Should just be the LN only, you only use doubles for kicks this section so feels inconsistent to suddenly use it for filler

Similarly, 02:49:478 - this should be a double for kick only and 02:50:658 - for snare

03:13:832 (193832|0,193832|1), 03:56:136 (236136|0,236136|2), 04:08:523 - Same reason should just be a single

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02:48:804 - double

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kay

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02:49:478 - double... o_o

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Reopened by Monoseul

my stupid chud brain could not...

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fixed

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02:50:658 (170658|0,170827|2,170911|0) - Switch these around, would play better that way

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okay

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02:51:248 (171248|2) - remove, no sound

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sure

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02:51:501 (171501|1,171585|0,171669|3) - What's the point of the releases here? You don't do this with the vocals anywhere else.

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cus it fits this unique section of the song and fits with the ln techish nature of this particular secition

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fixed

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02:59:422 - Missing triple

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how did I forgot that

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02:59:591 - As mentioned in another post, please apply the same structure you would for the same sounds later on like 03:04:984 - and so on.

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03:04:478 (184478|1,184563|0,184647|1,184731|0,184815|1,184900|0,184984|1) - Ignoring the LN inconsistency, this is suddenly very biased with a long left hand trill and as a result the gameplay feels awkward. Would be nice to rearrange this a bit so it's more balanced.

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really subjective, there's harsher patterns hand-balance wise through the map and this is really tame compared to it.

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um i don tthink so considering u have an anchor on 03:03:973 (183973|1,184141|1,184310|1,184478|1,184647|1) - in the middle of inverse which then transitions mid-way into an OH trill 03:04:478 (184478|1,184563|0,184647|1,184731|0,184815|1) - it puts a lot of tension onto smth that doesnt rlly have a tangible idea so it does feel random

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fixed

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03:04:900 - I think if we restructure slightly differently, we can avoid this very strange right hand pattern. 03:04:900 (184900|2,184984|3,185068|2,185237|2,185405|2,185490|3,185574|2) -

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did a thing

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fixed

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03:08:018 (188018|1,188186|0,188355|1) - These LNs don't even follow anything and the releases make this really awkward to play properly. Just make them regular notes. The jumptrill shouldn't even be here either, why is it different from 03:29:591 despite being the same?

Similarly, 03:27:063 (207063|3,207147|2) - these should just be connected to each other.

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again, not following anything specially but instead composing a hold section for gameplay intentions. Song is supporting sudden shifts in rhythm like that so its fine (also similar patterns are really common in all of the kiais)

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if ur not following anything then why map it tho, u can gameplaymax like any other part of the song

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fixed

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so at 03:10:546 - you have a note there after the 1/8 LN stream and then at 03:26:725 - you dont have any note after the 1/8 LN.

I personally think that the entire structure should just be the same as the previous chorus. 01:31:950 - 01:48:130 -


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03:11:810 - Missing note here for hihat. If you're trying to avoid long col 2 trill, flip 03:11:051 (191051|2,191136|1), move 03:11:725 (191725|0) - to col 4, switch 03:11:894 (191894|0,191978|1) - and you can add a note on col 1 for 03:11:810

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03:13:748 (193748|3) - make this a 1/4 LN it's the only instance you have a release like this for this section so it just feels odd

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03:22:006 - 03:23:355 - This is really awkward on the left hand, you have this long anchor on col 1 and most of the left hand is dealing with trills with LNs on the same hand. It's so imbalanced and really noticeable.

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not a problem for me, the imbalance is intended.

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why

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You rarely ever do this imbalance anywhere else, and it doesn't address my concern that the way it plays out is awkward due to what has already been established throughout most pattern choices here. It does not play well with how the LNs are handled on the same hand as the trills/anchors.

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i've changed this section so much that it doesnt apply anymore

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03:22:933 (202933|2,203018|3,203102|2) - It'd play better if these were switched and then put 03:23:186 (203186|1) - on col 3, overall this pattern is a bit awkward on the left hand as you have most of the anchors/long releases on col 1 atm.

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03:28:916 - col 2 has overlapping LN's

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03:33:214 - was the note missed intentionally?
comparing to the previous chorus, there was a note there 01:54:787 - , so it seems like a mistake.

heres an option:

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forgot

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03:33:636 (213636|2) - The release should end at 03:33:973 - which you've established for vocals like these.

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i didnt established any fixed snaps for ln release in the kiais, they go as the streams flows

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can u elaborate on ur logic here it seems rlly contradictory but not sure if im just misunderstanding u

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rethinking it sure (at the og post)

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03:36:332 (216332|2,216416|3,216501|0,216501|2,216838|2,216838|1) - What are these LNs following? The singer doesn't have extra notes here, or an echo, so these feel like filler.

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fake emphasis since the snares are cutting through the vocals because of pitch and release

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what is fake emphasis

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Ok I understand 03:36:501 (216501|0) - based on another response but 03:36:332 (216332|2,216416|3,216501|2,216838|1,216838|2) - the snare doesn't really warant this much attention especially since this isn't something you do anywhere else. If that was the case why is it not done with 03:35:827 or 03:37:175 -

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rearranged the holds for emphasizing the vocals

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03:40:040 - again I dont understand the 1/6 use for 1/4 sounds, just use a similar pattern from #4117032

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uhhh neither do I so fixed

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03:40:040 (220040|1,220040|3,220040|0,220124|2,220209|3,220293|1,220377|0,220377|3,220461|1) - I don't get why the LNs here have complex releases when the instrumental is just simple drums..please simplify these or make them regular notes, this really isn't necessary.

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visual mapping supported by the phaser sound at the end of the section.

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ya not standard still idk especially sicne all ur phaser related pattern motifs utilize inverse rather than quirky ln release

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Reopened by guden

yeah i agree now

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03:40:799 (220799|2,220967|2,221136|2,221304|2) - kinda want to prevent this, just a bit too heavy on the col 3 for no reason really.

probably this instead

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kay

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oaky

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03:45:602 (225602|2,225686|0,225770|1,225770|3,225855|0,225939|3,225939|1,226023|0) - we can create a more comfortable pattern here, this is quite awkward imo.

can just do something like this

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03:47:624 - The LNs here should go back to following the background melody - it's the same as 03:54:366 - and the LNs follow the melody there

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03:54:366 (234366|0,234703|3,235040|2,235377|0) - You follow the background melody now when you haven't done so before. I don't know if you are because you ignore 03:55:546. Just make them regular notes to keep consistent.

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ln usage is based in how much vocal/echo is present in section, even though the sound itself isnt a clear vocal/echo.

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This just gives more questions as to what the logic is behind the LNs for these vocals. The vocals are all often one long echo but the LNs just come in different structures and go whenever it feels like it.

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Reopened by Monoseul

now following the background sounds

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03:56:304 (236304|3,236473|3,236641|3,236810|3) - Not very nice to play out of nowhere with a long right hand release. I'd suggest reworking how the LNs are mapped to the vocals here as some of it feels a bit random, or at least shorten 03:56:388 (236388|2) for the other LNs next to it and to give more room for the notes to avoid this trill.

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this is fine since its supported by extended vocals

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but they change pitch its not one long vocal

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Reopened by guden

fixed

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03:58:074 - 04:00:433 - I'm trying not to be repetitive here, but..again, what are these LNs trying to follow? Because it's definitely not the vocals.

Same with 04:10:546 (250546|3,250883|2,251220|1,251304|2,251388|3) and the LNs after.

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same reason as #4292067/11479790

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I can hear that now but that echo is not present in 03:59:759 -

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rearranged

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03:58:411 - Missing double now?

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03:59:422 (239422|0,239422|1,239591|1) - Could just switch these so you could have a note at 03:59:675 - feels really off to break the stream here. Also makes this play a bit more nicely

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04:01:950 - Could make this a double LN to emphasize crash - you usually emphasize it so feels off to ignore it now

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04:07:849 - This does not play as nicely as it should with how LNs are just randomly thrown in, loosely representing the vocals, if there even is any at all. Some notes don't even represent anything.

04:07:933 (247933|0,248270|0), 04:08:945 (248945|1,249282|3), 04:10:124 (250124|1,250293|1), 04:10:630 (250630|2,250967|0) - Do these even represent anything?

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same reason as #4292067/11479790

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rearranged to be more clear with the emphasis

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04:23:018 (263018|2,263102|3,263102|1,263102|0) - The emphasis doesn't feel right here, there's two snares yet only one is emphasized and it's as a triple in the 1/4 snap?

Could do this and it'd feel more natural to play:

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agree but changed in a different way

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04:23:565 (263565|3) - pointless note, theres no sound and just makes the section awkward. better delete it.

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alright

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regarding the speaking section. the timings are quite off on many of the words/sounds

04:26:725 - should actually start at 04:26:754 -
and the "wa" starts here: 04:27:034 -
so the timing there is like this:

04:27:737 - this one is very off, it starts closer to 04:27:793 - and then the next sound at 04:27:933 -
(also the 1/12 gap between these releases is pretty yikes)

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04:30:433 - move to 04:30:490 -

04:31:782 - move to 04:31:810 -

04:33:804 - move to 04:33:776 -

04:33:916 - move to 04:33:888 -

04:34:029 - move to 04:34:001 -

04:35:490 - move to 04:35:518 -

04:36:051 - move to 04:36:079 -

04:38:411 - move to 04:38:383 -

04:38:692 - move to 04:38:720 -

04:40:967 - move to 04:40:995 -

04:41:107 - move to 04:41:051 -

04:41:894 - move to 04:41:922 -

04:42:006 - move to 04:42:034 -

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04:29:422 (269422|1) - Move to col 1 and 04:40:209 (280209|2) - to col 4. Since these are seperate from the talking I think moving them to a different col would not only make them stand out better, but also play more better as currently these are really awkward transitions to make and aren't fun to do.

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04:30:321 (270321|0) - I think you made a little mistake with the snap, because the voice starts later , need like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/19021445/0e80

(you can applied after second check)

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04:38:916 (278916|3,279029|3) - it seems to me that you can emphasize the vocals in this way, since it repeats KA-KA https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/19021446/2e47 , just like you did it here 04:28:158 (268158|2,268299|2) -

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don't think its necessary tbh so I'll leave as it is

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04:40:770 (280770|0,280883|3,280995|0,281051|3,281164|0,281220|3,281332|0) - If this is meant for the fading "shitara", these feel really out of sync and is annoying to play as a result.

Better synced with the vocal, and also plays better.

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04:45:602 - Better to have triple here to start the section's big finish sound.

recommend this:

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okay

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04:48:130 (288130|2,288299|2,288467|2,288636|2) - This anchor is a bit ugly to play, how about switching the LN lengths for 04:48:299 (288299|0,288299|2) - and move 04:48:467 (288467|2) - to col 1?

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04:48:888 - add note in col 3 for the hihat sound

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kay

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04:50:237 - add note for the hi hat sound, rearrange likely needed to not make it awkward.

this can work

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right

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04:50:995 (290995|2) - better to extend this to create better focus and intention on the "hachi" vocal.

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sure it fits nicely

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04:51:585 - and 04:51:754 - add notes for the hi hat, rearrange needed

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kay

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04:52:343 (292343|0,292512|0,292681|0) - unnecessary stack, this is not used anywhere else so it is an inconsistency.

this can work

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alright

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04:52:933 - and 04:53:102 - add notes for hi hat,

can use
04:52:933 - col 1
04:53:102 - col 2

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04:53:355 (293355|1) - Col 4, this gets a bit loaded on the left hand and it's a bit awkward

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04:53:776 - note was never used here before, please remove

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okay

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04:54:450 - add note for hi hat,
and unnecessary stack 04:54:197 (294197|2,294366|2,294534|2) -
need double at 04:55:714 - so add a note somewhere
unnecessary stack 04:56:051 (296051|2,296220|2,296388|2) -
need to add notes for hi hat at 04:55:630 - 04:55:799 -

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still forgot to add note for hi-hat at 04:54:450 -

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lol

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did you remove 04:54:282 - ? there should be a note there.

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Reopened by Crisper

ermmm

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05:00:433 - would be better to not have a sudden minijack and instead focus on the actual timing of the vocal sounds which are at 05:00:433 - and 05:00:602 -

so this would work better

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okay

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sorry this ones my fault, i think these two should probably be LN for more focus on the vocal.

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Reopened by Crisper

yeah for real

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05:08:860 (308860|3,308916|2,308973|1,309029|0,309085|1,309197|2) - You could make this more visually pleasing and satisfying to play imo

Represents the vocal better and is visually better and nicer to play

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05:09:197 - double is a bit too heavy for just a breath sound. better to remove col 4 and keep as single

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sure

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05:13:242 (313242|2) - more accurate feeling to the song to extend this like so:

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why not

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05:24:872 (324872|3,324914|2,324956|1,324998|0) - What is this roll for? It's just a crash.

Same with 05:35:742 (335742|3,335784|2)

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its not just a crash wdym
there is a crash + 1/4 drumroll + clap at the end
such a composite rhythm fits for a 1/8 roll faking a 1/4 jumptrill in this context

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what is a composite rhythm?

for me i can hear that there r two different rhythms in this, one for the the kick and one for the synth "phaser" and they both lie on 1/4th

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fixed

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05:28:158 (328158|2,328327|2,328495|2,328664|2,328832|2,329001|2,329169|2) - kinda crazy anchor here

maybe can just move these two notes over

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05:32:456 (332456|0,332456|2,332540|3,332624|2,332709|1,332793|3,332793|0,332961|2) - This was indirectly mentioned in the general post, but felt like bringing up separately. Vocal doesn't play here anymore, you are better off just making these regular notes.

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vocals are only starting to fade down at this point, and the ln usage decreases as follows.

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05:35:784 (335784|2) - Suddenly using 1/8 here feels off when it's still the 1/4 snares - would just make this a double with 05:35:742 (335742|3) -

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05:39:197 (339197|3,339366|3,339534|3,339703|3,339872|3,340040|3,340209|3,340377|3) -
to lessen this anchor a bit, how about flipping this around?

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fixed the anchor

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05:41:051 (341051|3,341136|2) - Don't think these fit at all, better off as regular notes considering you never do this anywhere else in the entire chart for similar sounds.

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05:47:231 (347231|0) - Did you misnap this? It's just a 1/4 percussion here. On that note, 05:47:119 (347119|1,347203|2,347287|3,347372|0,347456|1,347540|2) - these LNs do not feel nice to play the way they are structured, especially since the releases don't accentuate anything. Just make them 1/4 releases.

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no, everything is intended to follow the ln release

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what specifically

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Reopened by guden

It's all a 1/4 instrumental, this doesn't really address why the snaps just ignore that. I still dont get what it's intending to follow

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oops accidentally resolved

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did a funny there

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05:47:245 (347245|0,347287|1,347329|2,347372|3,347414|0) - This feels like an unnecessary diff spike as you never dump the drums. It's just out of nowhere, would just stick to the 1/4 like you did with previous kiais.

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05:50:742 - missed a note

can do this instead

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okay

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05:51:079 - missed a note here
reduce 05:50:658 (350658|2,350911|3) - by 1/4 and add col 3 at 05:51:079 -

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05:52:849 - again lets not do 1/8 snap for a 1/4 sound.
also theres no reason for 05:52:681 (352681|1) - to end on a 1/12 snap.

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okayy

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05:57:737 - and again lets not do 1/6 snap for a 1/4 sound, use a similar pattern from #4117032

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sure

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05:58:411 - the 1/6 is fine to dump vocals but lets not have any sudden stacked notes which will be more disruptive for the player visually and playability.

these:
05:59:254 (359254|3,359366|3) -
05:59:647 (359647|0,359703|3,359759|0,359815|3) -
05:59:984 (359984|0,360096|0) -
06:01:332 (361332|3,361445|3) -

for example the rearranging at 05:59:254 - could look like this

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05:59:422 (359422|1) - random non-LN note mixed in there
making it LN doesnt work either because it goes against my suggestion on this section above.

i would rearrange like this

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probably should make these two LN as well for consistency 06:02:456 (362456|0,362793|3) -

06:01:107 (361107|0) - lets also reduce this LN a bit, its too long i think. better to end at 06:01:248 -

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adressed

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05:58:411 - keep it

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𝒢𝒪𝒜𝒯𝐸𝒟 𝒲𝐼𝒯𝐻 𝒯𝐻𝐸 我亲爱的【staggered release] 𝒮𝒜𝒰𝒞𝐸

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06:07:681 (367681|1) - not sure why this is LN. should just be normal single note

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nor do I

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06:17:119 (377119|3,377119|2) - Single, nothing to emphasize that you didnt before

06:17:287 (377287|1,377287|2) - triple for crash

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06:19:984 - 06:30:770 -> This section is still inconsistent with the LN usage. Sometimes there's double LNs, sometimes there isn't despite following the same sounds. I'd just stick to using single LNs only for the melody to make this consistent with what's going on in the song.

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looks good

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06:36:164 - this whole pattern is just simply not good. and why the random 1/8 snap at 06:37:175 - and 06:38:523 - ??

first lets start on a triple at 06:36:164 -

and then go into an alternating trill concept until 06:38:860 -

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yeah I remade that pattern

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rearanged

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06:41:220 (401220|3) - I think this is not needed, I dont hear any special sound that would need this to be a triple

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06:41:557 - double is too much here, there is not really any sound. going from a drum double to this double are very very different sounds.
probably just delete col 1 and have single LN

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okayy

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